#yall don't read my posts before confidently claiming shit to me lol

[gold-rhine]

your post about what does zhongli being half dragon actually mean has been haunting me. at first i was like oh obviously hes a descender nahida says so but like?? she doesnt??? and this fandoms crackpot theories arent helping. feels like im being gaslit by my own mind

anyway the best reference I can find to that is the "In the beginning, Rex Lapis descended. He lowered the tides, raised Mt. Tianheng, and calmed the waves." from stone tablet compilations. though it is unclear whether this use of "descended" is literal(hes one of the descenders) or just prose(to parallel/reflect his descension party thing). it is pretty unlikely he is a descender, like the traveler, cause I believe? one of his story things updates after the irminsul situation?( I might need to look through some nahida stuff again cause I know she said something interesting about him)

(also irminsul affecting zhongli is not going to give great credentials to his "God of history" stick. myb this is what he meant at the end of his story quest?, the whole go forth and remember what I can't before the deterioration of the world obfuscates the truth idk)

oh wait, uh-

"During the Rite of Descension, Ivanovich states that "he heard" the Exuvia which Rex Lapis "appears as" during formal events, is a "celestial cross between two of Liyue's celestial creatures" (which the Chinese version specifies to be a dragon and qilin)."

thats from the wiki, I just thought it was interesting that it gets described as "celestial". especially as the CN use of "descended" here can apparently mean demoted or smt.( uh question who is all apart of celestia? its the primordial one+shades second who came and archons right? or is there more)

however because "liyues ... creatures" is specified like that it might just mean the "dragon" here is just a type of adepti/ mythological creature and is not related to the vishap/sovereign situation. (however the source here is egh so idk about the validity of it)(however this is what im personally leaning towards in terms of what is he?) which is boring but like I think morax makes enough of a name for himself that it kinda doesn't matter

end of the day I just don't think there's (somehow?)enough stuff to do good theories about him at the moment. it all just ends up feeling too speculative and crackpotian. (shout out to that one theory that traveler is neo and zhongli is morpheus and the irminsul is the matrix ?? kinda i guess?)

that's kinda all I can think of/find atm.

can't wait for more info on the sovereigns and whole fontaine situation, but this is probably going to haunt me throughout the experience lol thanks :D

1.Nahida doesn't mention Zhongli as descender, like what

2.I know about description of his "descent", but as I said in the post, Neuvi being reborn is also described as "descend" in inazuma prophecy book - "According to a prophecy of old, the Dragon of Water, the ancient lord of vishaps, will definitely descend in the form of a human." So we have an instance where dragon's rebirth is described as "descent", which is another potential tie to vishaps.

3.qilin being described as celestial too means that this cannot give any deeper meaning to "dragon". qilins are just adepti. so this description is not giving us anything. also ivanovich is literally no one. why would he know.

4. "end of the day I just don't think there's (somehow?)enough stuff to do good theories about him at the moment" - that was the point of my post the entire time!! zhongli is a dark horse we don't a lot about, not even counting his deal for the gnosis, while ppl confidently claim he's one or the other like they already have him categorized. if he's part vishap, thats HUGE. if he's descender, thats also huge in different way. even if he's adepti only, that also gives a different turn to his story. my point is that zhongli is shady and his origins can come into play in several interesting ways

[annavysoul]

I'll copy and paste what Dushka said after they deactivated. The last post on their blog said that they were heading to a job interview and told the anons tthat accused them for being Annie that Dushka was from Bulgaria hence their name "Dushka" not Canada and proceeded to leave something in slavic. They were receiving aggressive anons before they left.

Here is an anon message:

"Just say that your another friend of Annie the delusional and go. She and her toxic friend semd so much hate to bee and yoo are still defending her"

Dushka’s response:

"

1. Do not call Annie a delusional! Most probably you found my post from the #️⃣ and I'm going to assume that you follow bee. How are you going to call someone else a delusional when you technically follow or at least enjoy tarot readings about bts future spouses? Are you so interested in those readings? Are you so invested in this topic? Supposing that Annie actually has feelings for yoongi...what about it? It won't affect none of you. Her feelings are just none of your business do why are so bothered? Do feel threatened by something?

2. Annie is not responsible for what her friends did. They are grown and do not need anyone what to do. Yall act like Annie controls her friends and tells them what to do. She's not their mom!

3. We don't know if Annie (and her friends) is responsible for the hate that bee got. I remember perfectly well that bee actually got a lot of hate and death threats before she left and during that time, bestie, Annie and Lisa weren't even doing tarot readings. I don't think they even were around. You can't blame Annie for something that happened when she wasn't around. What can assure us that bee didn't get hate from the same people who force them leave the first time? Plus, Annie was very cooperative. She send her ip, told bee to take this case to the police and tried to provide useful solutions. Listen, i was bullied too and none of my bullies ever told me "yes bestie take your proofs against us to the police and press charges". The fact that Annie wasn't afraid to get the police involved, shows that she's is confident in her innocence. What's really suspicious to me is the fact that bee don't want to get the police involved even tho they claim to tell the truth and have "solid proofs"....something doesn't add up🤔 supposedly they are the victim and they got the proofs so why aren't they doing what should be done instead of constantly complaining in the Internet?! Hmmm weird...

I'm not taking Annie's side, I'm just analysing the situation objectively. Again as someone who was bullied to the extreme for more than 12 years, this situation is not new to me, actually is way too easy for me to read tho whole room and see the bigger picture. I have come to my conclusion way all this is happening and why bee and Annie are acting the way they are acting. Also, as so.e who was manipulated and gaslighted to point i was doubting my own sanity and had to see psychiatric and therapists for years...i can a spot a manipulator miles away (if the shoe fits, it's not my problem) the majority of the outsiders are being used as fucking dolls to spread hate. Open your eyes already!”

oh noo! its horrible that anons where sending her agressive shit and treat her badly, like yeah! she have an opinion and sides with annie a little be more, but its her opinion lol!

its interesting to me the argument she gave and i can say that i disagree with her BUT people should respect other peoples point of view, and dont treat people bad, like we arent kids wtf

hope that shes feeling better and got the job!!!