#y'all know my view of john doesn't include him being abusive
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#dean especially treated every bit of (likely rare) praise as the most beautiful gift #and john knew that and doled it out accordingly #but my god he loved those boys to death #he loved those boys so much it poisoned all three of them (tags from @samwinchesterphantompregnancy)
sorry just thinking about john pouring his heart out to ellen about how much he loves his kids 👍
#ellen harvelle#y'all know my view of john doesn't include him being abusive#but i do love that he's a shitty person a lot#and the idea of him blathering on about his boys#half because it's rare that he has the occasion to#and he loves them like nothing else (other than mary)#and half because it's a way to ingratiate himself to the harvelles#is just *chef's kiss*
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