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#with another emotion despite their opposing personalities - yep you guessed it it's them too LOL
re-colligere · 14 days
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HI GENE the disgust and emby art you just posted. it just made me remember how in the beginning of the second movie before the new emotions showed up, all the memories that had to do with "embarrassing" stuff were driven by disgust (i'm specifically thinking of like. one memory joy mentions where riley accidentally waved at someone she thought was waving at her LOL. and another where she walks into a glass door.)!! LIKEEE i see it. just know i see it.....
YYYES YESYES EXACTLY !!! iirc disgust was also the one that pointed out that riley's classmates started talking about her when she cried in the first movie as well...so yeas absolutely!! they do have a lot of overlap in the social awareness area it's so fun to think aboute....... and they manage to cover like, different aspects of it especially through their personalities AUGHH they're so silly. I would love to explore more of their dynamic like that. Thnak you for seeing my vision
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dianablackwell · 3 years
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The Loki series does a very good job of establishing parallel structure with its character pairings. I'm not necessarily talking ships here, only how our four main characters interact and relate to each other. (long meta incoming! 😁)
In writing 101 they say you need characters who are have opposing goals to fuel conflict and drama. What’s key for our quartet of Loki, Mobius, Sylvie, and Ravonna is the dramatic conflict comes not only from how they are different, but how alike their motivations are:
Loki/Mobius: you might say, well these two characters are about as dissimilar as you can get, personality-wise, but when you dig into their emotional arcs they are on a common path to find inner truth and external freedom.
As a team, Loki and Mobius are the mutable, flexible characters of the series, who wear their hearts on their sleeves. They are open with and to each other, which is why they become close friends based on mutual trust.
They are willing to change. In a way, change is what they most desire, though in the beginning they were not willing to admit it to themselves.
In the end though, they get their change, and the truth hurts. Mobius shows Loki the truth of his life and the consequences of the choices he made/didn’t make, while Loki is able to also free Mobius from the lies he’s been burdened with and is living under.
This comes at great personal cost to both of them. Mobius is pruned by the person he believed was his closest ally, and Loki is rejected by the first person with whom he has been completely open, vulnerable and honest.
Now, their main dramatic conflict was never with each other; they’re each locked in battle with two other characters.
Loki/Sylvie: there’s two opposite messages the writers are constantly giving us with this pair: “We’re the same” but “This isn’t about you/I’m not you.” These sound like opposing sentiments but are actually connected. By episode 6 we see that Loki has grown past his former self, while Sylvie chooses to continue her role, the single-minded vengeful variant who uses anger to fuel herself and to hide her profound loneliness, pain and sadness.
Because of this, no matter how much Loki wants to reach out to her, she can’t meet him. They are not in the same emotional place, and the relationship can’t continue at that moment, which is what makes it so heartbreaking for him.
And despite how much pain Sylvie is in, no matter how much she may want to end her personal suffering, she can’t not follow through on her life’s mission. Remember she didn’t choose this mission, and so she’s come to believe that there are no choices to be made, only the road she’s been forcibly put upon.
Loki offering her a choice feels wrong to her, just another lie. This is very tragic for her and dooms the potential of her friendship with Loki. As Loki says, he’s been in this exact place before. Her motivation, to be free and complete, is the same as Loki's. But she can't see that.
Mobius/Ravonna: there’s heartbreak here too, as they also experience a painful breach in their relationship. We don’t know the exact nature of their feelings for each other, though at the very least they share a deep professional intimacy. All that goes out the time window when Mobius is pruned by Ravonna.
Despite that, he continues to try to reach her—there’s his willingness to be open. And just like his mirror (Loki) Mobius is confronted with accusations of betrayal after “eons” of friendship. Sound familiar? Yep that brings us to our most mirrored characters of all:
Sylvie/Ravonna: these two characters are single-minded, dogmatic, suspicious, intractable women who are closed off in every way. They will let nothing get in the way of their “mission.” They are both hunters. And they both believe in their right to act as judge, jury and executioner.
This is why in episode 5 they are seen to “shake hands” and agree to “work together.”
In episode 6, we get mirror scenes: they each betray the most important man in their life.
Ravonna wonders how Mobius could “betray” their bond (and thus the TVA); Sylvie wonders why she and Loki aren’t seeing this the same way. Both women refuse the offers given them by Loki and Mobius. And thus both men end up getting shoved out of their pairing’s lives (yeet).
And who is driving this? He Who Remains. He paved the road for both Sylvie and Ravonna.
Since we still haven’t learned what Sylvie’s Nexus event was, we can guess that He Who Remains is directly behind it: Ravonna (as A-23) pruning little girl Sylvie to send her on her journey to him. For such an important pruning, He Who Remains would send his most important agent, a woman he knows will be set on an eventual path to judgehood.
He’s manipulating until the very last moments. And his failsafe is to instruct Miss Minutes to give Ravonna the files which “he thinks will be more useful” in her “search for free will.”
A pairing we overlooked lol! Kang with each of our strong willed women.
So what’s ahead for these pairings? Loki must figure out a way to work within this timeline he’s arrived in, with a different Mobius; our Mobius must work with B-15, a pairing I’d like to see developed because Wunmi Mosaku is so awesome, and as a liberated hunter she can be a close ally to Mobius and Loki.
And Ravonna and Sylvie are on the same mission they were before: looking for Kang. As always, Ravonna has the upper hand, with resources and insider information, and our girl Sylvie is at rock bottom and has to start from the beginning.
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