#why would he get rid of the nuvelles now? Granted he might not have known he nor Thales that they had Noa's crest

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Looking at Nopes' support convos (or at least some of them because even I can't take them all at once lol)

I found the Constance/Lorenz one, and there was only one thing that picked my interest :

Also, you are the heir to House Gloucester, yes? Why would I ever hope to marry into a house of such meager standing?

This is the sort of banter I wanted from inter-houses support!

How dare you! The magnificent House Gloucester is anything but "meager"!

For Lorenz's who's so proud of his house, Constance is basically throwing the worst insult at him.

I do dare and have done! And while I know not of your status within Leicester... House Nuvelle is steeped in tradition, with a bloodline closely guarded and unbroken. I find it hard to believe that joining your house is worth uprooting that.

Interesting to note how Constance thinks the glorious House Gloucester isn't worthy of House Nuvelle (granted she apparently doesn't know what is Gloucester's status in Leicester which is major "wtf", what do you mean Constance, with the noble education she received, doesn't know the name of the major houses in Leicester?? Unless Adrestian education doesn't waste time of foreign houses?) but apparently, per Houses, her family was not opposed to arrange a wedding to Emile of House Bartels - who has considerably less importance than the Gloucesters!

Could it be that, in Adrestia, a good suitor must first and foremost come from Adrestia ?

That'd be... totally fitting with what we know of this place lol

Well, now. I can hardly back down from words such as those. We of Gloucester are legitimate descendants of one of the Ten Elites and inheritors of a Hero's Relic! Long have we held a seat at the Alliance roundtable! Why, we are among the most distinguished houses in the whole of Leicester! We are no less valuable than House Nuvelle—who, may I add, were condemned to extinction by the previous emperor.

What does he mean "legitimate descendants", Gloucester had bastards? Or he means there are other houses who can claim a link to Gloucester (iirc the Ordelias' original crust was the Gloucester one?) but none who shares the same "continuity" as, well, the eponym house?

Sad mention of Best dad who "condemned to extinction" House Nuvelle - but Constance lost everything in 1175, by that time, the Insurrection of the Seven already happened in 1171, and Ionius was supposedly already defanged...

Does it mean Lorenz doesn't know about the Insurrection or got his dates wrong ?

Constance doesn't correct him, hell even in FE16, she seems to have a bone against Supreme Leader when the Insurrection already happened and Ionius was supposedly defanged...

(who gave the order to get rid of House Nuvelle, Ionius, Ludwig or Uncle?)

Anyways, this support is interesting as an inter houses support, which also serves to give a bit more meat about Lorenz's bride hunting and gives us more hindsight on what Constance - and maybe Adrestia at large - thinks of the non Adrestian noble houses.

if Noa was a nabatean and passed down some Macuil vitriol to her descendants, it'd explain why Constance thinks House Gloucester sucks and cannot compare to House Nuvelle