#why so much vitriol towards ace people i don't GET it

[shadowxamyweek]

I know this is a Shadamy blog but what is your opinion on Sonamy? Like, do you think the two ships are capable of coexistence? Maybe a live triangle kind of thing? Do you just tolerate Sonamy or like it just as much as Shadamy? Or do you just not enjoy the ship at all? I guess the same question could be applied to other Amy or Shadow ships that aren’t Shadamy.

Ah ha ha oh boy. (ಡ▽ಡ*)ゞ

So, fun fact (and part of the reason why I took so long to get back to you- I had to find this) @madeofchocolate asked me about SonAmy a while ago. I answered here, but I want to expand upon it for your question since you go beyond just 'what do you think of SonAmy). I will also note that my observations and headcanons are based on games alone. While I like enjoying other aspects of the franchise, I don't consider things like Sonic the Comic, SatAM, or IDW canon to the core lore, if that makes sense (And if it doesn't, that's okay. It's just the way my brain works, so understand that's how I'm coming into this.) 1- From a fandom perspective: Yeah absolutely all ships can and should coexist. The fact that ship battles were even a THING blows my mind. I don't understand why such vitriol could come out of something like, you know, fake hedgehogs, but whatever.

There are very few ships that I actively dislike. SonAmy isn't one of them.

I also don't dislike most other Shadow or Amy ships. Been seeing a lot of SurgeAmy and BlazeAmy which are super cute, and SonAdow has gotten much gentler and sweeter over the years, which is nice to see.

It's not like I don't read other ships either, or look at art for them. When someone is able to take the character and, in what I perceive to be a good application of canon, make a ship concept work? Oh I'm always thrilled. Plus, it's nice to look at something from a new angle, you know? I think the thing that would make me turn away would be, 'Are they still in character.' If they're not what I would perceive to be, 'in character,' then I'm no longer interested. It just loses the fun for me, you know?

Basically, I like watching people take the puzzle pieces of different people and make cohesive sculptures out of them, if that makes sense. If what they come up with isn't cohesive to me, then it's just... not for me 〜〜(／￣▽)／ That includes SonShadAmy. I've seen a lot more art and writing about them in recent years. In fact, past two years I think there's been a ship week for them, which is awesome! Again though, not really my cup of tea. I just don't gravitate towards that.

2- From a canon-compliant point of view. I just- I think Sonic is Aro/Ace, and in such a way that they experience no sexual or romantic attraction.

That's really the core of it. That's why I don't intrinsically ship Sonic with anyone.

Furthermore, I really don't believe that Sonic is the partner that would benefit Amy best (as stated in the linked post above) or, for that matter, Shadow.

Specifically about SonAdow, like, Shadow and Sonic to me have a really cool relationship built off of parallels and perpendicular, working as foils for one another beautifully in that way, but I don't necessarily see the romance of it (unless, again, someone does a fantastic job of showcasing that, and even then, I will like that artist/writer and be indifferent about the ship.) _(:3 」∠)_ You might laugh, but of all the people I would personally ship Sonic with, like if I HAD to pick someone, it would be Knuckles. Like- you go and listen to their Frontiers dialog for a second and you too will be going (O.O) I... (wow I typed a lot) I hope this answered your question XD If not, feel free to send another message, and I'll try to parse down and focus on what you were asking. I hope I didn't overwhelm you with this wall of text XD

[scriboniuscurio]

I should probably not involve myself in this discourse but seeing how vitriolic this is making people is quite uncomfortable and what I say here is not necessarily directed towards anyone on the thread as much as common responses I'm seeing in the notes.

I'm confused by the idea that saying kink is non-sexual means that people are trying to make it wholesome (and I don't see why "wholesome" and kink have to be mutually exclusive anyways) and kid-friendly. For me I see it the opposite way. I'm someone who naturally basically has no libido. When I'm looking at pics of anime girls tied up I'm not going to get off to it. So I guess its just my "hobby"? And since it's just my hobby I'm comfortable sharing it with everyone, no of fucking course not, its my kink and I'm not going to show that shit to kids because its a fucking kink whether or not its sexual for me. Lots of vore and inflation art do not have actual sex in them, and lots of people who make and enjoy this art do not get horny from it, but its still not something they want to show to kids. We call people who draw this stuff "kink artists" all the time without actually knowing whether or not they get off to it.

The fact that like half of people mad at "no" voters are mad at them for being groomer pedophiles and the other half are mad at them for being anti-sex puritans might mean there's more room for nuance than your initial reaction leads you to believe.

The idea that kink has some set infallible dictionary definition is confusing to me. Like obviously the people who wrote websters fucking dictionary have a different definition of kink that the guys who run the local bdsm club. Dictionaries are surface level knowledge and I'm kind astounded by how many people are saying with absolute confidence "it says sexual in the first result on Google". Like it's well known that dictionaries are general, surface level knowledge tools that frequently misrepresent the jargon of specific fields and subculturea. This isn't a hot take its just a fact a general-public dictionary is like less than the bare minimum amount of research you can do on a topic. I can go to scholar.google.com right now and find a dozen different articles with a dozen different definitions, here's one now:

Within academic sources, ‘kink’ refers to a range and variety of sexual activities considered to be ‘outside the norm’ (Christina, Citation2011; Rehor, Citation2015), where ‘the norm’ is ‘vanilla sex’ (sometimes described as dull conventional sex, usually involving genital penetration; see Ribner, Citation2009). The term ‘kink’ can also be used in reference to BDSM, an acronym used to encompass bondage and discipline, dominance and submission, sadism and masochism, and various activities that involve the exchange of some form of power, pain, or sensory  deprivation (Faccio, Casini, & Cipolletta, Citation2014; Freeburg & McNaughton, Citation2017; Pillai-Friedman, Pollitt, & Castaldo, Citation2015). Whilst BDSM activities may sometimes (and are often assumed to) be located within a sexual context, BDSM practitioners have expressed feelings of fulfilment via emotional and mental experiences (which may or may not be experienced as sexual) rather than genital contact or orgasm being a requirement (Simula, Citation2019a). This suggests that being kink does not necessarily equate to either being sexual per se, or engaging in sexual contact. The term ‘fetish’, however, is most commonly defined as ‘an object, body part, or behaviour that triggers sexual responsiveness in an individual’ and tends to be associated with ‘atypical’ stimuli (Stockwell, Walker, & Eshleman, Citation2010, p. 309; emphasis added). A ‘fetish’ could therefore be positioned as a specific sexual interest or trigger, whereas ‘kink’ could refer to non-sexual as well as non-vanilla activities.

Winter-Gray, Thom, and Nikki Hayfield. 2019. “‘Can I Be a Kinky Ace?’: How Asexual People Negotiate Their Experiences of Kinks and Fetishes.” Psychology & Sexuality 12 (3): 163–79. doi:10.1080/19419899.2019.1679866.

I really do not like getting into discourse but can we please please accept that human sexuality and sociability is something that people have different opinions and views on without people going "wow you voted no in a tumblr poll that must mean you're a pedophile I hope you die" please <3 okay thanks.

is kink always sexual?

[tadieshi-hotmada]

i love y’all 2 death but if i ever catch any of u hating on asexuals i will climb thru this screen n clock ur fucking lights out i swear to anime