#who is the knight guyssssssssssss

[dreamsy990]

kris is NOT the knight

saw a post earlier about how kris might be the knight and. yeah i guess i wanted to comment on it. so heres all my comments w the whole idea complied into one post for simplicity (with a few very minor edits)

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The theory that Kris is the knight can’t be true. or at least, not without a lot of stretches. the main point most people make about this is the fact that kris physically couldn’t have made the cyber world. it had to be made sometime between when berdly and noelle arrive at the library and when kris and susie come, likely while they were in the closet. 

this is because noelle and berdly were already sitting down with their books out when the fountain was created. if the dark world had already been there, they wouldn’t have been able to sit down and start studying. It must have been created while they were already there, likely by someone hiding in the closet, as implied with the text ‘a large person could fit inside’ when looking at it. 

the only other theory that might make this idea reasonable is that there are multiple knights. i highly doubt that idea, but there’s technically no strong evidence of that beyond the fact that the knight is only ever referred to as one person, so i suppose it could be true. 

I think the only dark worlds kris has created (as of now, based on what we currently know) are the one at the end of chapter 2, and the one at the very start of chapter 1, that being the closet. We know that kris has already been there before because of their previous save file, and hesitance to enter it at all.

when i say the closet dark world, i mean ONLY the closet dark world. Not the extra classroom. That, i believe, was made by someone else afterwards. King’s dialogue implies that kris is NOT the knight he met, and that he’s fighting them on behalf of the knight. While this might be him fighting you, the player, on behalf of the knight, kris, that doesn’t seem to be the case. You could get that idea from the line “By the Knight's will, I shall shatter your heart to pieces!”, but it probably couldn’t have been Kris. 

They weren’t possessed until the start of chapter 1, and by then, the dark world already existed. They couldn’t have made it after the start of chapter one but before our entry, so they wouldn’t have been able to warn king at their very first arrival. The same argument also disproves them being able to go talk to king if the dark world already existed. They wouldn’t have had a chance to go and warn king about the player and that he should fight them. And why would they want him to hurt ralsei or susie?

Also, many of the knights actions seem pretty out of character for kris. While we don’t have exactly obvious evidence of who they are, we can make assumptions based on what other characters say and dialogue options that they aren’t the kind of person who’d put a tyrant like king in power or try to bring about the roaring. 

We know from a lot of kris and noelle’s interactions that they dont mean any harm. They pull harmless pranks, but nothing that would really hurt noelle. They’re also disapproving of how the player tries to ‘prank’ noelle by jumping off a switch at one point, since it could have seriously hurt her. You can see that response from how kris reacts to noelle doing it to them afterwards, and how they seem genuinely upset.

Also in snowgrave, kris actively doesn’t want you to continue the route, shown from the dialouge options that will cancel it out having exclamation points. Like they’re trying to convince you to stop before you hurt anyone else, especially their friend. That doesn’t exactly sound like the behavior of someone who would put tyrants into power and try to end the world. We know ending the world IS the knights goal from their name quite literally being the ROARING knight, which they introduced themself to Queen as. It’s weird that someone would be taking actions that would lead to the end of the world, and be named after that world ending event, and for it to be a coincidence. And even if they didn’t know that and kris was somehow the knight, that doesn’t change the fact that at the end of chapter 2 kris opens a fountain despite ralsei’s warning. Its not like them to WANT the end of the world. 

So yeah, theres my kris isnt the knight argument!!! ok bye now