#while on the mavdad topic.. don't mention iciclepops to me. ice is not letting anyone call him iciclepops or pops in general.

[stopthatfool]

this is all so interesting and so cool to read. I always love reading ur opinions about top gun. and i love how i was like "i think mav has some form of adhd" and ur like "no he doesn't" that's so funny omg.

I could get really long and convoluted about my thoughts on adhd and how i think it does and doesn't manifest in Mav. I think when I say he has adhd it's not as a way to explain his "actions" per se (other than the general impulsivity), and more of a way I understand his internal dialogue and how he thinks because I definitely agree with what you said that if he does have adhd it doesn't affect his day to day life. Like whether one thinks he has adhd or not, he has trained himself to function a certain way (i love military training it's so cool and not weird or questionable at all)

and what u said about people treating mav's bisexuality as his whole personality.. Thank You. You're So Right. Like yes I agree, Mav is bi (i also act like it's canon) but he doesn't exclusively bottom. i fear the top gun fandom has fallen into the shorter=bottom and taller=top pothole/stereotype and it makes me... sigh.. like dude.... RAHH. come on guys, Mav fucks too. like please he fucks. Like in terms of icemav we have two hyper masculine military men who were in the military during DADT and the Reagan administration.. mav would not allow him to be viewed as more feminine or the one who exclusively bottoms in the relationship. he would be so horrified and offended (i gotta stay canon with Mav's sexism.. like i'm sorry.. i can't ignore it). Also i agree about Mav never really feeling the urge to go to pride or pride events AND that icemav would never really show PDA. thank you, cal. thank u.

AND the mavdad thing. yes. i think in some scenarios (like my fic lol) (i'm so hypocritical it's so funny) he raises bradley out of necessity, but my guy is not taking in the whole dagger squad or inviting them to weekly bbqs or stuff like that. like as much as Mav rebels against some forms of the military, he's also like.. a professional guy.. he's not saying hey kids im ur dad come to my house (also i think he's a really private guy.. i don't think he's inviting all these adults he met at work to see the inner workings of his home, whether it's icemav or not) idk does that make sense..?

and i completely, older trans mav is so cool and awesome, and it's one of those instances for me where i'm like fuck yeah screw canon, screw logistics and technicalities, mav is trans and in the military during the 1980s! but yeah same with his bisexuality, it's about balancing that without making it his whole personality. i love yapping thanks for this

character ask game!!! number 8 for mav... or if you don't want to be evil and start hashtag drama then number 7 for mav.. or both...

This is huge‼️ we’re doing both i need drama in my life

8. Whats something the fandom does when it comes to this character that you despise?

okay theres so fucking much actually 💀💀 i’ve spoken about him being mischaracterized before but idk if ive ever been specific but my biggest thing is how a lot people just make his only personality traits being bi and a bottom. i liked the top gun fandom at first cause its rare that you find fandom people who don’t hyperfocus on a characters sexuality and i really liked that, i think he’s a super complex character and his bisexuality (not me acting like its canon) adds to that but he definitely does not think its a huge part of him that defines him. This comes a lot from my relationship with being bi cause it’s just a thing that i am and i like a lot of things that don’t really overlap? with it and i think he’s the same way. like for example i don’t think he’s ever been to pride and i don’t think he has any desire to go, i don’t think he interacts with the community at all and in a world where him and ice are married i don’t think they show a lot of PDA (maybe a little as a treat and i do think they’re snuggly in their own home but not A LOT), and he is accepting but he doesn’t get a lot of stuff and doesn’t really care to either because he has other interests 💀 he’d much rather talk about aviation and he’s super fucking smart because he’s a FUCKING TEST PILOT so he went to school for that!! He knows his shit!! He's so much smarter than people make him seem and i do think he's more book smart than talking-smart but he still knows his shit!!! I also don't think i’m the right person to talk on this and i have no problem with people doing it its just my opinion but i don't think he has adhd or autism or anything and if he does its pretty minor or not anything that impacts his day to day life, ik a lot of people use his timing in tgm as an example of this but its just comedic movie timing i don't see it as anything more than that 💀 sorry for the rant ik you asked for it but i think im done now 🫶🫶🫶

7. Whats something the fandom does when it comes to this character that you like?

i feel like such a hypocrite saying this after all i just said cause i like seeing him as more of a real person but… older trans mav 🥺 save me older trans mav 🥺 he is so near and dear to me even tho its like impossible but i do like that most people draw him with top surgery scars. THAT BEING SAID i also hate when people make it his whole personality cause again its just a thing that he is and i don’t think he shares it a lot, he is comfortable with it especially at his older age but he just simply doesn’t care he just wants to live