#which i honestly can't argue with like i cannot judge these things for the life of me

[maladaptivedaydreamhq]

wait wait PAUSE

am i delulu or is our girl tearing up here?

[geyikligece]

uh hello,i know you aren't a scholar or anything but i just wanted to ask for your opinion or ask if you have read anything on this matter. so the Quran doesn't say anything about same-sex marriages(and it not saying anything it is banned) but i also saw something like "marry the unmarried amongst you, female or male slaves" and i saw someone, an imam, saying this makes same-sex marriages possible. and in a surah(30:21) it talks about love in a gender neutral manner. i don't get how people connect zina and homosexuality. yes it would be zina if the same-sex couple wasn't married and had sex, but if they got married by an imam and had sex wouldnt that be legal. or i want to know why can't they get married? sex is seen as such a positive part of life. so why is it that just because of the way we were created we cannot have sex, isn't that unfair? i also learned that all the "hadiths" that talk about homosexuality being punished is actually weak and unreliable. so i don't get it, can we be in a relationship without ever having sex, or can we get married and then have sex? because if it is permissible after marriage, then i am willing to wait for it. if it isn't, i don't want to imagine my life so blank and deprived because of it. the homophobic Muslims certainly wouldn't have missed out if the Prophet had ever punished anyone for homosexuality, yet he didn't and how very interestingly they were condemned AFTER HIS DEATH. he reads the book and misunderstands and the scholars read it and understand better than him? ironic. honestly i am so shocked about how the homophobia is so deep withing the community. they make the religion so scary and unapproachable for anyone who is not cishet. also saying "don't act on it" is incredibly stupid. why was i created in pairs too, then? if it was actually a sin, why wasn't it mentioned properly instead of people trying to make conclusions and analogies that either arent clear or aren't mentioned? i used to thing literally almost everything is haram but know i know that it's just people making things up. it seems hard for a Muslim to go hell, too. unless they are very corrupted. as far as i know, what is haram is either haram because it harms other people, or it harms the person doing it. how can being in a relationship harm anyone? straight couples getting married before sex is logical as if there is any children they will be supported and cared for. but it is illogical to say "there is nothing about it in the Quran so it's not permissible" it's the very opposite! i used to feel so bad for my identity but now i am coming to terms with it. i am also disappointed by how many scholars and imams are homophobic themselves no matter how "knowledgeable" they are. i never listen to them as i think religion should be something i myself should be deciding. i have always understood the story of Lut as rape. they had wives and they were raping men, it wasn't consensual. also the Quran on the importance as being a good partner outweighs my suspicions. anyway i am sorry for taking so much, but i am full or rage towards the community. it doesn't judge or condemn us anywhere. even in the Lut, is is HETERO MEN THAT HAD WIVES RAPING MEN. please share your thoughts with me. i hope you have a great day, may Allah bless you.

hi! i just saw this so i'm replying a bit late. as you said, i'm not a scholar, but i'm a psychologist and researcher who studies queer muslim identity and identity integration. so i think i can share what i see, read and observe.

first of all, there is a sociological area, islamic feminism, which i think is very related to these issues as well. scholars are women and they argue that the interpretations on religious issues are always made by men with their patriarchal, heteronormative, hegemonic minds. they say the language of the quran is never discriminatory, sexist etc. so they criticize the islamic scholars and they suggest a new interpretation, they read the quran and hadith critically, with a new perspective. when we look at the muslim societies today, we can clearly see that none of those societies really perform islam. sometimes people cannot differentiate culture and religion. they don't know which one is from the culture, which one is from the deen. it is not surprising but we must be critical of this.

another thing is, some scholars say that if something is not clearly stated in quran or hadith, then people shouldn't ask too many questions about it, some say "if they are not stated, they're forgiven by Allah". i also read in kecia ali's book sexual ethics and islam that there is a "don't ask, don't tell" norm when it comes to sexual minorities in muslim societies. they acknowledge it, but they don't wanna talk about it.

recently i'm doing in-depth interviews with muslim queer women. one woman said "when i look back to my past, i do not feel any regret or shame about my sexuality, but i feel remorse because of abortion. when i make love with a woman, we don't hurt anyone or anything. do we kill someone? no. but abortion, i still do not forgive myself".

i think what she said is really important. going through an abortion makes her feel remorse, pain, and fear of Allah. she is worried and prays to Allah to forgive her. but she is okay with her sexuality, because as she said, they don't hurt anyone. my opinion is not very different from her. in the quran, there are clearly stated harams: killing, stealing, zina, infidelity and so on. yet, some so-called "religious" people make queerness a huge issue while we have all kinds of corruptions and harams in our societies. is it logical? i don't think so.

about prophet Lut, i think we have similar views. i've read those verses from quran numerous times. the issue is more about rape, consent, corruptions in the society in my opinion. i cannot believe people read those verses and the only thing they say is "see, it is because they were homosexuals". bro, what's the logic? why aren't they that sensitive when it comes to consent, rape, murder?

i think i kinda made my perspective clear. Islam is all about justice and peace. Allah is merciful and fair. so apparently me kissing a woman is more problematic than killing a woman for so-called religious men, but it's indeed very related to mansplaining, patriarchy and heteronormativity. that's why i suggest you to read more about islamic feminism. and lastly, all the muslim queer women in my asks box, why don't you message me, i thought we could be friends :(

edit: i realized i didn't talk about your question on marriage. i don't have knowledge about it though. personally, i think i'm not someone who values marriage and/or sex that much so it's maybe better to not talk much. but i know queer muslim women who think it is okay to have sex regardless of gender if there is mutual consent. i also know someone who thinks it is okay if you have sex only with one person which is your partner. since same sex marriage is still not legal in many countries, it is a tough topic. but there are proud married queer muslim couples in countries where same sex marriage is legal, maybe we should ask them

[yellowocaballero]

🌟 for mens rea / good luck jake! / any of your sw no-chip au fics

“I am the only one of us who’s done everything you asked,” Jake hissed. “I don’t argue or fight back. They think I’m a supervillain because of you . Help me. Help me! Please!”

He didn’t look up from the floor, but he could feel Khonshu staring down at him anyway. He could always feel him. Always. Judging. Never telling him what he saw. Always judging.

I told you this is a reciprocal relationship, Jake. I’ll help you. 

(I don't like the way the middle part is written, I'll fix it later.)

I never pretended Jake liked Khonshu, but their affable and smooth partnership was established in his first scene. He openly acknowledges his subservient position to Marc, but he rubs it in Marc's face - it's something Jake can do, something that they have to do, that Marc cannot.

Honestly, I think it makes Jake feel special. Most of his life he really didn't have anybody on his side. Khonshu, for all he's a manipulative dick, has massive favoritism for Jake for a few evil reasons and for a few reasons that run more along the lines of 'he's hilarious' and 'finally someone who agrees with me' and 'I want to study him like a bug'. And Khonshu doesn't really have a lot of friends either.

Khonshu's hard to write, but my general MO is that he and Marc share desires and values. In a broad sense, they both want justice and vengeance, and they both want to protect people. But they want to go about it in entirely opposite ways, and their definitions of justice don't always match up. Their conflict arises from Khonshu's method (which frequently involves fucking with Marc), not what they want.

Some of that is established in Mens Rea, hopefully people got the gist. This is the turning point in what we understand about Jake, and of course it's a turning point in understanding Jake's relationship with Khonshu. It's a massive show of vulnerability and desperation from Jake. He's always acted so in control and powerful, repeatedly pulling Marc's pigtails and flaunting his control of the body in this scene. But here we get this intense insight into his vulnerabilities - his bratty 'you can't hit me, I'm better than you!', his terrified and anxious jump of 'if I lose control I'm going to lose my life and the HFH', and the fact that he is so proud but jumps to begging Khonshu for help in seconds.

Despite what Khonshu says, it's not an equal partnership, and Jake knows that. Jake's power is dependent on Khonshu's favor. For the next 60k Jake's going to demonstrate a need to feel powerful, and in order to obtain that he sacrifices pride and represses heavily the fact that he's humiliated by its loss. Marc wants desperately to feel like a superhero and Steven wants to be a good person, but in order to get what he wants Jake sacrifices those desires.

So, if you step back - we've established that Marc is wiling to do distasteful things to live. He'd be very happy to do without Khonshu, but I think on a certain level he is grateful to him for life. If there is an aspect of him that will do anything to live, this anything will involve getting in bed with Khonshu with no hesitation and no qualms. Every other aspect of him detests this, but that's just not who Jake is. And if that does become who Jake is, then the "I don't argue or fight back", "it's not my job to ask questions", 'he had an intrusive thought about peasants kissing the pharaoh's robes', all comes rushing in. And that's on the short list of things that Marc feels he cannot handle any more than he already does.