#when she fights other villains it's like welp. what can you do if she doesn't do that they're gonna blow her up so go ahead

[rox-reads]

taylor... i hope you pay for their med bills later :(

[ladymorghul]

What are your thoughts on Alicent and Rhaenyra meeting on dragonstone?

Personally, I’m worried. A few months ago some delulu (you know who) people were whispering about a video from HBO where they discuss Alicent possibly defecting to Team Black. Some earlier rumors were saying Alicent would throw Aemond (and the entirety of Team Green) under the bus for Rhaenyra’s forgiveness.

I just don’t see how the meeting could go without Alicent being taken hostage and eventually being converted to Team Black. Especially with how Ryan and Sara want her to be lovable, well anyone associated with Rhaenyra is loved.

The show and everyone involved is so desperate to make Alicent seem like an unloving mother, that she would actually sacrifice her kids for Rhaenyra.

i think.... i think it's all stupid to be honest.

i think that whatever they do, it will be to make alicent regretful of everything and make it look like none of her decisions are hers and she doesn't actually have any motivations or ambitions of her own beyond rhaenyra, and that rhaenyra will be this merciful martyr type of character and that they will want to go back to each other even when they both lose family members to the war.

i can see the meeting being about trying to establish peace again but how it won't happen because ryan and olivia said that it is out of their hands because of their 'testosterone filled children' who want to fight.

which is... y know... silly.. because whoever those children are their parents helped mold them. it's like 'oh no i told my son that his and his brothers life will be in danger if rhaenyra comes into power' 'oh no aemond had his eye taken by rhaenyra's son' 'rhaenyra you will make a fine queen' '*next day* aegon get up we're crowning your ass' 'no aegon no why'd you kill rhaenyra :/'

i feel like by the end of the show alicent will be so unrecognizable with her book counterpart, who had way more agency and will, and i think it's so....... unrealistic and nonsensical for these women to lose sons and grandsons and whatnot and still care even a tiny little bit about each other. also... the lack of agency that the writers support. alicent is NOT a villain for caring about her family above rhaenyra and snubbing rhaenyra's claim to the throne. many men do it, none of them are called villains. rhaenyra is NOT a villain for fighting back against this. like we don't need this smokeshow of 'oh god i accidentally started a war. whatever will i do.'

their friendship was weak af and almost entirely onsided, there's no foundation for this kind of emotional depth on this level. they are just entirely a product of the writers will that dooesn't just affect the characters themselves but how the story goes too. it is.......subpar. there is not one person that can convince me that this constant neverending push for rhaen*cent made this show more interesting. anything past episode 7 is such a joke.

so yeah... about dragonstone. i think it will be alicent trying to see if there's still a chance for peace but i also think that's stupid because alicent should know better by that point. however since the writers' are taking unrealistic approaches of course rhaenrya might also want it and then be like 'welp but we can't because we can't control our very bad sons which are actually just the greens sons because of course rhaenyra's sons are angels'

A few months ago some delulu (you know who) people were whispering about a video from HBO where they discuss Alicent possibly defecting to Team Black. Some earlier rumors were saying Alicent would throw Aemond (and the entirety of Team Green) under the bus for Rhaenyra’s forgiveness.

all i can say is that this is bad writing, on par with got s8. i would say i can't see it happening at all if i had any trust in the writers.

The show and everyone involved is so desperate to make Alicent seem like an unloving mother, that she would actually sacrifice her kids for Rhaenyra.

remember the alicent poisoning aegon theory? because i remember. and i fully think they're capable of doing it. many rhaenicent shippers love that because they fully believe that alicent's children and entire family is what stands in the way and rhaenyra's love.

[chronicallylatetotheparty]

What did you think about how Glaciator 2 ended for Adrien/Chat Noir? Curious about other people's opinions as it didn't quite sit right with me

(sorry for getting to this so late)

... Welp! IDK if you're still interested but I'm gonna take this opportunity to talk about Glaciator 2. (And why I don't like it.)

So, this feels like a conversation they should have had earlier. Like last season. But as for the content itself?

Ladybug had a right to be mad. And to expect Chat Noir to respect her boundaries. (Just as he's done every time up to this point, mind you.) That's not a problem.

The trash can, however, was UNNECESSARY. (Don't @ me. I'm right. 😤)

We finally get a moment to see Adrien processing his emotions without an outside POV. Something the show usually doesn't do. And honestly, it works really well! Adrien verbally acknowledging that he doesn't want to end up like his father.

Even going around Cataclysming billboards. (Which is a different problem but I only have so much emotion bandwidth)

That's when the episode really starts going downhill for me.

See what illustrates my problem with Glaciator 2 is the first Glaciator (and Prime Queen). Where pretending to be in a relationship is only okay if it's Marinette's idea.

Something they repeated here. Without thinking it through Marinette practices her love confession to someone she thinks isn't there on Chat Noir. Despite knowing that Chat Noir has a crush on Ladybug. Unintentionally showing just how one sided this dynamic is.

That's why I didn't enjoy the movie date. Much as the fandom jokes about Adrien being okay with anything if it's Ladybug asking. That's all it should be. Jokes.

Anyway when Chat Noir and Ladybug fight the titular villain. Chat Noir asking about what Ladybug is comfortable with is good.

So, to finally answer your ask, I'm gonna paraphrase someone else's analysis: Adrien came to the conclusion by himself that he can't force his feelings onto Ladybug. But that doesn't mean his feelings for her aren't valid. Adrien just decided to try being more honest about himself around Ladybug without actively trying to woo her. This is a pretty mature decision for a lovesick teenager.

Now, if you wanted Adrien to move on, I mean, I wanted him to move on with Kagami. Just for a season since Lovesquare would still be end game. I stand by Adrigami being potentially good for both of them. 😤

But since they're not doing that Adrien still crushing on Ladybug is fine. As him moving on from her at this point would probably result in pre reveal Adrinette and I... Don't want that.

For lots of reasons but mostly because I want the Ladynoir fallout delt with first.

[shasta-reese]

Finale Part 2 (6x20)

Alright, continuing the 2-hour finale. I wanted to do one post for the whole finale but the 6x19 commentary was already too long so here we are if anyone actually reads my long rants in their entirety I applaud you and thank you. So for real this time, one last ride:

- Welp Lillian is officially dead. It's a sad death like she's obvs a bad guy cuz like she did attempt to commit alien genocide a few times but I also never wanted her to die. Maybe I'm just too attached to Brenda Strong but I also just didn't want Lena to lose another parent no matter how terrible they were. I would've liked her end to be like in season 3 (I think, or was it S4 idk), in jail for life but Lena still went to visit her and play chess.

- Lillian's death to me is marginally better than Shadow Weaver's death (if ya'll watched She-ra) cuz Shadow Weaver never loved anything/anyone and till her last breath she never apologized for the shit she did. But Lillian in the end just wanted the best for her children and recognises that Lena can hate her if she wants for all the shit that she put Lena through her entire life. So yeah I rather she not die but I'm not overly pressed over her arc ending in death.

- Kelly may not have many lines but the few times she speaks she reminds me that she's a licensed therapist yet somehow never asked any of them to go to therapy, especially Kara and Lena. I'm joking but not really

- The hope speech was good but I don't know why but some of the wording of it just sounds weird to me. But I can't put my finger on it.

- How can Lex and Nyxly literally be fighting each other to the death one second then just turn and fight together? To an extent I get it Superfriends are their common enemy but still

- The final battle is interesting how they paired who fought who. It is a little odd to me that Nyxly in 6A was Kara's villain in a way but when it came to the rest of the season she became more of Nia's villain instead. Which is fine but just something I find a bit peculiar, and somehow Lex has become Kara's villain when we all know his obsession is actually with Superman (kryptonians as a whole I guess). I just don't like that Lex has been used for so long as a Supergirl villain when he's Superman's. but that's just a personal preference

- Also liked that James assisted Kelly rather than "saving" her, compared to Mon-el saving Kara with Lex. I know I'm probably reading into too much of this but for a show that's supposed to empower women it just doesn't sit right that Supergirl (the title character) has a man (who's she had not the best relationship with) come in and "save" her in the series finale during what's supposed to be the big final fight.

- I am going to ignore the fact that Eliza came outta fucking nowhere and just appreciate that we got Mama Danvers being badass with a shotgun. And the reference to Helen Slater playing Supergirl in the past, ngl made me chuckle

- I appreciate the sentiment of Mitch switching sides but he literally also did nothing to help them

- Kinda weird that in the wide shot with all the heroes Lena and Andrea are not in frame, like you could even see Eliza at the back but Lena isn't? Odd choice but okay

- And here we have the most anticlimactic final battle I've ever seen, just such a cop out ending tbh. I hated that's how they ended Nyxly's arc especially. They spent all season building Nyxly's character, everything she's been through and that's the best they came up with? Nyxly was already in the Phantom Zone for forever and just got sent back like it was nothing? That's fucking terrible, the fear on her face (and Kara's) when the portal opened was heart breaking and she got sent back to the place where she suffered eternally. She's a fucking terrible person for sure but even she didn't deserve that. Lex, I don't give two shits about cuz we know if he got arrested again he would've still done shit like before so it was either death or Phantom Zone I guess. But I thought for sure after showing us Nyxly interacting with Esme last ep, she would've gotten the "villain but can be redeemed" treatment but apparently it seems like they ran out of time. It wouldn't have been the first time Supergirl has redeemed a villain, with Psi and Livewire. One of the things I don't understand is what was Nyxly's motive even to destroy the universe, it would've been more reasonable to have her goal to be collect the totems for the All Stone and finally take revenge on her father. Because we've seen that Nyxly doesn't particularly aim to harm innocents, just those that are in her way to get the totems so her wanting to destroy the world when she gets the All Stone just doesn't make sense.

- It would've been better if they played the "revenge won't bring you peace" shtick and empathising with Nyxly that yeah she's had a shit life and dealt a shitty hand but taking out her revenge on the world wouldn't just make her hurt and anger go away. She realises that they're right. Then send her to some magic proof jail and she gets rehabilitated and heal from her trauma.

- But we didn't get that and they just sent a woman who's been hurt her whole life back to the place where she suffered most. Nice

- I posted about this before but does William not have any living family? Why is he being buried in National City when he really only came here for a job? Rip William, we truly knew nothing about you and you deserved better than this.

- I really don't like that they decided to bring the DEO back. It had so many problems, they put aliens away without trail or jury for what seems like until they die, its part of the government which we all know means shady shit is bound to happen. Just so many problems. I would've preferred if they stayed independent and cooperate with the government rather than under the government. Did the entire Season 4 plot teach any of you anything!?!? Or even just start your own organisation without the government would've been better honestly.

- Alright for real tho does ANYONE know what the fuck the Lena Luthor Foundation even is? Like what does it do???? No one has ever explained it. Nice of Andrea to open a journalism school in William's name, its honestly the least she could do. Also just a sidenote, Lena just standing at the side with Andrea while Andrea is giving her speech, lowkey gives me "proud wife of the founder" vibes, kinda hilarious lmao

- Dreamer having an LGBTQ+ outreach centre is gonna make me cry again dammit

- I'm not gonna say much about the whole Mon-el never coming back thing cuz I know there are nice karamel shippers and I don't wanna be insensitive or disrespectful but I'm glad they made a solid statement that their relationship has run its course. I get why there are people who still ship them because when I watch back some S2 scenes they're good together but for me personally the bad things just outweighs the good and personally I see S2 Kara and Mon-el as more of a playful friendship but the writing just made Mon-el into a douche and turned their relationship sour

- I know Brainy isn't gonna leave but fuck this goodbye still make me tear up :'( (on a lighter note, I wonder if it felt weird for Nicole to kiss Jesse with the green make up on lol)

- Also how come Brainy didn't have a goodbye with the others? like they've know Brainy just as long they are family at this point and at the moment they think that Brainy is going to the future to merge with the Big Brain and fucking CEASE TO EXIST HOW IS NIA THE ONLY ONE UPSET HERE?! Where is his honorary sibling, Lena? Kara, Alex, they were basically his sisters. How was there only an emotional goodbye from everyone when Brainy is quite literally walking to what is essentially his DEATH??!! this literally just occurred to me, wtf?

- the moment has come...CAT GRANT BABEEE! Honestly her appearance single-handedly made me forget all the terrible writing in the first half of this episode. I love the fact that Cat called her to rant and almost didn't tell Kara the reason she called because she was too wrapped up in why she hates people, oh Cat its so nice to have you back even for just a moment. I wanna headcanon that this is a semi-regular occurrence that Cat just calls Kara regardless of what time it could be in National City just to rant/vent, that is now a headcanon you cannot change my mind.

- That mini panic that Kara has when Alex walks in to her apartment is adorable.

- Damn, that last Danvers sisters couch scene....

- NOW FOR THE WEDDING

- I saw someone else also mentioning this but who are all these people attending this wedding? Alex's friend circle isn't exactly large so I will just assume that they could be DEO co-workers, Kelly's military friends and social co-workers. Cuz let's be real we haven't seen any of them actually talk to anyone outside the Superfriends

- I am always happy to see a parent who admits that they weren't perfect and owns it. So glad to see that Alex and Eliza relationships seems to be getting better. Also Esme is just the most adorable child

- Am I the only one wondering where is Kelly's mom? Apparently according to the Arrowverse wiki she's still alive so...? or they couldn't cast a person in time due to Covid or some other reason? They seem to have a good relationship with her from what they say. Guess we'll never know. But I digress it was a sweet sibling moment between the Olsen sibs

- I haven't seen the clip of Lena and Winn entering the wedding venue before.😂😂 Why do they both look so fucking miserable?😂😂

- Okay Brainy clearly watched way too many movies and decided that yes this is my movie moment and did the most rom-com entrance. 😂😂 I love him so much. Him and Nia deserve all the happiness in the world <3

- The vows were beautiful, the outfits impeccable, just amazing. (Alex's hair could've been better but I digress)

- Esme's lil moment with her uncle Jimmy was sweet :)

- Lmao they really had Lena be like "I just lost my second mother and became a two time orphan, would you two fine ladies like to adopt me pls🥺". Smart choice honestly for making Lena the godmother cuz as the last remaining Luthor I will assume she just inherited a shit ton of money on top of the shit ton of money she already had 😂

- Wish there was at least one slow dance but it was also nice seeing the cast having fun and then probably crying once they yelled cut.

- Look we all knew that Cat Grant knew, its no surprise but it's nice that they made it canon. Cat Grant pep talks are top notch man. Bi......furcated, are you fukcing kidding me, so close, we were so close

- I just love that Cat Grant is always the one to push Kara and encourage her to dive but for some reason they've made it so that Lena's words to Kara is the final thing that pushes Kara to finally make the decision. It happened when Kara became a reporter and its happening again with Kara becoming her true self void of dual identities.

- Katie saying "hey, you" causes me to react in a way it shouldn't 😳

- I love how well Lena can read Kara. She approaches first playfully but once she sees Kara is actually troubled she immediately switches gears and comforts her

- The entire Kara/Lena conversation honestly says more than what is actually being discussed. Because out of everyone Lena is the person that Kara has this talk with, and empathises with her. And at the very end of their conversation its clear that these two are each others person, they better each other and push each other to grow in the way that parallels Alex and Kelly's relationship. They are there for each other and never try to fix one another but just be there for them and help them figure things out. The amount of faith and trust that these two have for each other is unmatched. And it is an absolute shame that these two will go down as one of the biggest queerbaits in history rather than the one of the most solid wlw slow burns. Truly shame on the CW and WB to have let this once in a lifetime ship slip through their fingers and tarnish their reputation even more to many members of the LGBTQ+ community.

- Random note, Katie's eyes are absolutely piercing during that scene, idk if that was due to lighting or the dark eye make up but it felt like she was looking into my soul.

- One final game night, I'm just glad that everyone was there looking so carefree and happy with nothing bad hanging over their heads

- One very small nitpick I have is that I would've loved it even more if Cat Grant at the very end introduced Kara as Kara Zor-el/Kara Danvers rather than Supergirl but I get what they were going for

- But I digress the first time I saw that very last shot with Kara smiling at the camera I sobbed because she looked so light and truly happy and that's all that any of us can ask for a character's ending is that they are happy.

And that is the official end of Supergirl. I know it wasn't the finale that many of us hoped for but I am satisfied that all the main characters got happy endings. It still doesn't feel quite real but I know that next week when I open tumblr or twitter and see no new updates on Supergirl it will hit me full force and I will sob again because yes in many ways this was a shit show but it was ours and we cared for it. And so did the actors and the crew, its such a shame that it didn't reach its full potential but it was still good in ways that I don't think any of us will ever forget. In a strange way I don't think I'll miss the show in its entirety but I will miss the characters, I will miss this cast being together, I will miss how I feel when I watch this show (obviously the good moments only). I can't wait to see the other projects that this cast will be involved in because they are truly a very very talented cast and this show didn't give them nearly enough opportunities to showcase their talents. And I think that's it, if you've read this entire thing, thank you for being my first true fandom experience. For the very last episode commentary of Supergirl.

Goodbye.