#we're so used to ggy but ggy in a game would still be such a huge reveal for gregory and the story in general
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matpat said Gregory "may not be as innocent as we all hoped/wished he'd was" when discussing the GGY book
to be fair, he said "WAS a villain", so my guess is that Gregory did some really bad stuff in the past but has moved on from it. then again, we don't know how much it affects the current events of the story.
he said "Not AS innocent" so I think Gregory is a morally gray at least and is staying there for the rest of the story. Not guilty, not innocent, iykwim
it does seems like the robot theory has been completely debunked tho
and no, he can't tell us anything directly, he can't even say how much he knows. Not even the Game Theory team knows lmao
everything is on "FNAF Is FINALLY Solved?!" GTLIVE, skip to minute 17 onwards when he starts talking about it
thank you anon you're a godsend馃檹 this rlly helps me get a better understanding.
so I'm personally going to take this as us being in the same position. we all know Gregory is morally grey because of the animatronics + the possibility that he dropped cassie, that's no secret. but also ggy would make him not as innocent as the games show him lol. ggy/dr rabbit would still be a huge reveal in the games since it hasnt been shown and only implied in a book. I think we're safe
if Gregory WERE to have been just evil on his own, it would contradict with the cutout of him comforting cassie and when he cried over Freddy and hugged him and when he saved vanessa. so my thinking is that in that scenario he would be like Thomas from the maze runner. he would have been bad voluntarily and then gotten memory loss that wiped his brain and then become good voluntarily. not a bad character per se but I dont think it's right for Gregory. him being glitchtrapped explains and makes sense for literally every part of his story so I think that's still the case :)
like in Freddy in space Gregory was a boss that threw discs at you, so like. clear patient 46 reference there, but my point would be that hes framed as a villain like vanny is, and vanny wasnt even truly a villain because everyone knew she was secretly unwilling/mind controlled. that's changed now since the killer rabbit alter egos are now separate entities from people like vanessa, but my point still stands
#sorry kinda rambled there#not gonna lie i was a bit worried about Gregory's character for a sec but i think we're okay#ggy is a lot less known than we think it is#not that thats a bad thing like it was in a fucking book with zero reference in the games except for ggy on the arcade cabinet#but yeah#we're so used to ggy but ggy in a game would still be such a huge reveal for gregory and the story in general#pandas.txt#pandas talks#pandas asks#thoughts#gregory
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Even More Everyone Lives AU Character Stuff: Security Breach + Ruin
Now we're getting to the real beef of the AU!
Not as important, but inbetween FNaF 6 and Security Breach Michael does manage to get other bands of Fazbear animatronics to his house (don't ask me how he keeps them all, this AU was based on ask blog nostalgia and I'm not about to fill the plothole of how they all stay mostly unnoticed by the public). Altogether, the animatronics he has at his house are:
The Classics (including Golden Freddy/Fredbear)
The Toys
Technically he has Springbonnie if we're counting William as a burnt Scraptrap in the basement
The Funtimes
The Rockstars (minus Rockstar Freddy who fucking died in the FNaF 6 fire due to overheating)
Probably some of the other FNaF 6 animatronics (not Candy Cadet though as they stay in Ruin, I'm not sure which of them are absolutely destroyed by the fire and which are able to be brought back)
Groups that are debatably there:
The Nightmares (Evan probably still sees them, Michael sometimes ends up being in the same dream as him due to ghost shenanigans)
Not at the house:
The Phantoms (they're hallucinations here, as much as I love their designs)
Really I just added that for context as to what the newer characters are getting into, so there's actual scale as to the chaos that can happen. But if you do want to know about any of them just ask me about them (honestly I could probably talk about a lot of them)
Anyways
EXTRA: Since this is characters that span both the base game Security Breach AND the Ruin DLC, I'll do color coding for everything here: red for pre/during Security Breach base game, and yellow for post-Security Breach.
Vanessa
Okay, obvious stuff here: Help Wanted beta tester, Glitchtrap (as much as I hate it he's not William in this AU), Vanny, Princess Quest ending leaves her free at the end. The stuff we all know.
Instead of her actual Security Breach characterization, I use the scrapped voicelines that make it seem like she actually cares for Gregory and is trying to keep him safe. It lines up with her Special Delivery characterization of her being a bit paranoid and leads up to what was originally the main catalyst of the AU (which later became the FNaF 6 fire after deciding to look backwards in the timeline).
She knows Michael as just Mike (he's gone through a few identities in his attempts to not be suspiciously young for years on end), probably as a general friend.
So when Vanessa's suddenly free from Glitchtrap AND has a kid who doesn't have a home, she panics. Gregory can't come home with her, as she basically just lost her job and wouldn't be financially stable. Plus her apartment really was for just her. And she's paranoid that she not ACTUALLY free and he's just waiting for the right moment to control her again and kill Gregory for good. As such, she asks Mike if he can take the kid while she gets back on her feet. He accepts and that's how Gregory ends up at Michael's house.
Don't worry though, she still visits pretty often. Mike just uses a bunch of extra air freshener in/near the basement so Vanessa doesn't know he's technically hiding a corpse down there.
Gregory
He's an actual human child. Sorry aggressively-GregBot people (meaning the people who are assholes about it, if you believe it but don't harass others about it I'm still chill), I'm not putting that in my AU.
GGY happened, but not as it did in Tales From The Pizzaplex. I'll put a shortened version here as it directly connects to Security Breach. I merged The Storyteller and GGY so Gregory's actual purpose was to clear the way to Glitchtrap infecting the Pizzaplex systems (the people he did kill such as in the therapy tapes), eventually leading to him breaking in and directly putting Glitchtrap into the systems. If he was still loyal, that would be great. If this freed him, Glitchtrap would just have Vanny kill him. Gregory ends up being freed because Glitchtrap left him behind, and he has amnesia from the time he was controlled. He may have been the wizard's favored apprentice, but he was still only going to be useful for a little while. (Glitchtrap fucking with the systems also caused Glamrock Freddy's systems to crash, since there's no one possessing him in this AU). And Security Breach is directly after.
Post-Security Breach, he stays with Vanessa for part of the day before being told he's staying elsewhere until she gets her life sorted out. Gregory's at least allowed to keep Freddy's head with him (mostly for comfort so he's not at a completely new house with a guy he doesn't know alone) as well as bring his stuff.
Mike did explain to him the fact that he does have a bunch of animatronics in his house, but what Gregory wasn't expecting was that a nosy Funtime Foxy would punch a hole in the door to see who "Eggs" was talking to (the Funtimes no longer have the child murder programming in them so he's safe: Mike at least figured out how to get rid of that so he wouldn't have to worry about any local children being found dead in his place).
Mike also told him about the fact the house is haunted. But it's not like ghosts actually exist, right?
Well turns out some of the oddly specific nightmares he's had since coming to this house were because of ghosts (he saw some of Evan's memories from while he was alive, such as being locked in parts and service and being bullied by a kid in a Foxy mask who looks suspiciously like a younger Mike). Gregory figures this out when he wakes up in the middle of the night feeling a bit cold and Evan's sitting on the foot of the bed.
Long story short, he does some digging on Mike and Michael comes clean about all the supernatural stuff and the history of Fazbear Entertainment. So Gregory just has to deal with the fact that the place he's in is full of ghosts and robots, that his current caretaker was a zombie for some time, and that way more children died because of this company than there were rumored to.
He didn't drop the elevator in Ruin, and if he weren't found crying over a walkie-talkie then no one in the house would have found out Cassie was even in the Pizzaplex (Michael basically brings the Funtimes and a few other characters there as part of a search and rescue mission for both Cassie and the animatronics).
He's not happy to see the shattered Glamrocks again. Gregory doesn't hate them, but he's definitely nervous they're just going to kill him out of vengeful spite. Especially Roxy.
He did get scratched by Glamrock Freddy's headless body, since he thought he could safely approach it.
Lastly, he can only see the ghosts at night.
Glamrock Freddy
Glamrock Fronnie is ABSOLUTELY canon to this AU. It's already meant to be self-indulgent, so why would I not add this?
He's almost completely oblivious to the problems around the Pizzaplex. He sometimes notices things but shrugs them off. It wasn't until Gregory showed up that he started to see all the cracks in the place he lives in.
He's shocked to find out the history of Fazbear Entertainment. Freddy was basically gaslit into thinking that that has always been a safe place for kids, and now he's found out it never was.
Unlike Gregory, he can see the ghosts all the time. It's a mix of it being a robot thing and being made with some reused parts with the soul juice in them (a trait shared with really all the Glamrocks).
Meeting the previous iterations of Freddy was really fun for him: Classic Freddy was surprised there even were any more Freddys, Toy Freddy was glad to see an 80s throwback, Funtime Freddy didn't talk much (they both have had kids in their stomach hatches for very different purposes and Funtime Freddy was not about to talk about that), and the Rockstars really just edged around their missing bandmate.
Should've added this in the Gregory section, but he never got upgrades except for the battery one. Basically Gregory saw the duffel bag messages and thought that the other Glamrocks' upgrades caused their erratic/aggressive behavior, so he thought that getting rid of them would fix this situation. So he held onto the parts. When everyone gets repairs it's actually replicas of the originals (Michael doesn't know if Gregory was right but he's not about to take a risk).
His headless body tried to set Mike's house on fire. Glamrock Freddy was not expecting to have to tell everyone he had a built-in lighter, but here we are.
Glamrock Bonnie
If I remember something I saw right, Glamrock Bonnie uses he/they pronouns. I'll try to keep up on that. (I actually had to look up how to use he/they pronouns in sentences, being raised in a religious family makes it a bit hard for me to understand some pronoun sets at first but I think I got it)
I already mentioned Glamrock Fronnie being canon, so let's talk parenting styles instead since he inevitably meets Gregory and finds out that Glamrock Freddy basically adopted him. So if Glamrock Freddy's the dad who would at least set some rules to make sure there's minimal chaos, then Glamrock Bonnie's the dad who would help bend those rules if they thought the reason Gregory wanted to break them was funny.
Instead of having claws, he can flick open his finger (think Freddy with his lighter) since there's a guitar pick hidden in there. Just a little thing I thought of since their model in Ruin doesn't have the bassist claws.
So I wanted to think about the reason Bonnie's where he is in Ruin. There's the Monty murder theory, but I like Monty and this is my self-indulgent AU so he's not fully at fault. At the same time, though, Bonnie has those scratch marks on them and Monty did have claws to some degree even before his upgrade. Then I thought "wait if it were an accident Monty caused that resulted in this then he would parallel Michael" and it just stuck. I'll go over that in more detail in Monty's section.
Being a collective of wet floor signs was not fun for him. Especially since trying to lead people to where they were hidden so he could be repaired would just mean the little bot is picked up and placed back down where it's supposed to be.
During the events of Security Breach, they were pretty much completely unconscious. Being a digital ghost in the machine while something has hacked the systems is not a good mix.
He wasn't found by Cassie during Ruin, but when the search and rescue team Michael set up searched the Pizzaplex Glamrock Bonnie was found. That's when he saw that Funtime Foxy insisting that Lolbit should be brought along on a USB (or something else similar) actually might have had a point.
While his physical body was being repaired, they became very acquainted with Lolbit since they were essentially roommates during that time. Glamrock Bonnie wishes to never have to be in a computer again.
Meeting the other Bonnies was something else, since almost every single Bonnie considers each other a sibling. He was almost instantly brought into the sibling group.
Glamrock Chica
She shared pizza with a rat in her greenroom once and now she has a rat friend named Remy. Glamrock Chica would have a rat army by the end of Ruin if I weren't trying to keep this AU semi-serious.
Similar to the other Glamrocks, she only really developed her garbage-eating issue after Glamrock Bonnie vanished.
She used ASL to communicate post-shattering, although that started to become a challenge once Roxy was blinded. Monty was able to translate it into audible words for her so everyone was able to understand each other.
She doesn't have the same guitar pick finger gimmick as Bonnie, and when she was switched from vocals to electric guitar (because Fazbear Ent. fucked the voice box upgrade) Glamrock Chica instead stores her guitar pick as either a ring or in some part of one of her earrings.
She stayed with Roxy during the post-Security Breach pre-Ruin time period, acting as her eyes.
When found by the search and rescue team, she's a bit surprised to see a completely new face, especially when it comes to animatronics (specifically, she meets Ballora who is doing her usual spider crawl to get around since it's much more practical around here).
Meeting the rest of the Chicas was mostly pleasant. The exception was Toy Chica, who made an amazing first impression by showing she could remove her beak and throw it at a spider with the accuracy of a professional darts player.
Roxy
If this is already canon-divergent, then me having Roxy as Foxy after transition shouldn't be a problem right? Like they were about to scrap the cowboy Foxy to make room for Roxanne and they were just like "you know I've always felt like I should be a girl" so Fazbear Ent. said that they'd let them remember being Foxy if she didn't tell anyone else about it. So yeah transfem Roxy.
She used her ability to see through walls as entertainment for a bit, but after seeing one too many things she wished she could unsee she stopped.
Her image issues and low self-esteem came after Glamrock Bonnie went away.
If she had the resources to, she would be into spray painting and would absolutely vandalize the entire back wall of the Pizzaplex. She'd do this after every one of the teenagers she invited to do this with her took an oath of silence.
Her theme song for post-Security Breach is Curses by The Crane Wives. You can't convince me it doesn't fit her.
During the search and rescue mission, Funtime Foxy found her nearly completely beheaded. So he just had to carry both her and Cassie at once before she handed off Roxy to Circus Baby.
Since the entirety of her face had to be completely remade, Roxy was at least given her eyes first and had either a mask or bandages covering her exposed endoskeleton face in the meantime. She also had a makeshift animatronic neck brace (cone of shame cone of shame cone of shame).
The transfem part came out when she finally was able to tell her bandmates without the threat of completely leaving part of herself behind. No one exactly believed this until she managed to actually lasso Glamrock Freddy's head off his body again.
She was honestly shocked with how many of the older versions of Foxy were not cis. Mangle and Funtime Foxy obviously aren't, but every one of them just going "yeah we had everyone debating whether we were boys or girls" was unexpected.
Monty
Remember the thing I said about Monty being a bit of a Mike parallel in this AU in Glamrock Bonnie's section? Yeah, here's the detailed version. The two were sparring on the catwalks above Monty Golf (this is a usual thing for them) and Bonnie went over the edge. Turns out the rabbit isn't as sturdy as Monty and he goes catatonic. So he feels like he has to hide the body out of fear he'd get decommissioned if anyone found out. The guilt and actually witnessing that gave him the anger issues.
Instead of the lightning bolt on his face, he has some scales resembling a band-aid on his nose bridge.
He's actually the youngest of the Glamrocks. While I don't try to assign ages to the robots most of the time, I proportion him like I would while drawing someone who's 19. Monty's a bit short too.
In Ruin, Monty attacks more out of paranoia. Last time a kid showed up he got cut in half so what's this one going to take from him?
Being electrocuted didn't kill him, but overcharged him for a while before the search and rescue team showed up. He's actually the reason they ended up finding Bonnie, because Monty figured out no one else found him. So they just followed the legless gator to Bonnie Bowl.
Since Monty's an only child on the terms of older models, he basically got adopted by the Bonnies (mostly because both him and Glamrock Bonnie played the bass, so they were technically the closest).
Daycare Attendant
Normally I'd color code these by which of them it is, but almost all of these are already color coded by when they happen so I'll just put Sun, Moon, and Eclipse all in each bullet point. Also, it's mostly fun headcanons, deal with it.
Sun can't cook worth shit, Eclipse does a decent job, Moon could make pancakes in pitch darkness with no problem. I'm not leaving my silly cooking skill headcanon out of this.
Eclipse can come out without a reboot, but it's only in emergency situations as a failsafe. This has not actually happened much despite this being Fazbear Entertainment we're talking about.
They're 7 feet tall, near exactly the height of Circus Baby. Imagine walking into the daycare and seeing that tall guy watching over everyone.
Very rarely, Moon will get bored and teach the few kids still awake at nap time swear words in ASL. When the lights come back on it drives Sun absolutely crazy.
As the lights went out one by one after the Pizzaplex was abandoned, Sun would try to generally avoid the dark. Eventually they just all went out which is how we end up at Ruin.
Eclipse was a problem child for the search and rescue team to catch. We know they can "fly" through a series of cables, now imagine Moon's general playfulness when it comes to using them and Sun's lack of understanding in this situation. They had to basically say that everyone else was leaving to get them to come back down.
Cassie
Her home life is way better than the Afton kids, but that's not much to say at all since her mom is absent and her dad isn't home often. At least her dad makes sure she gets what she needs every day.
She and Gregory were friends before Gregory abruptly vanished (GGY stuff). Cassie was one of the few things Gregory remembered from before that.
She gave Glamrock Chica her voice box back in Ruin (since she happened to get access to it).
The first thing she saw after waking up at Michael's house (they were heavily considering bringing her straight to the hospital, but then they'd have to explain they were breaking and entering into an abandoned building specifically because they knew she was in there plus they had all the animatronics with them) was Mangle on the ceiling saying it's "never seen a broken child before". Considering Mangle is near always a twisting mishmash of animatronic parts, that was one hell of a wake up call.
Her and Gregory are not meshing well together after the elevator fell.
She sees the ghosts all the time. Turns out nearly dying is a very good way to get acquainted with the supernatural.
Not canon to the AU, but I was heavily considering Cassie dying. But seeing as we already have enough dead kids as is it'll probably be a splitoff (unless Cassie is revealed to have died in canon).
The Mimic
Not much to say here except that during the search and rescue mission Funtime Freddy decided to play a game to see if it was smart enough to figure out it was getting trolled. He'd listen for the Mimic to say something, then repeat it back in a different voice. It didn't catch on and got recaptured somewhere, and that's how everyone got out of that hellhole safely.
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Bonus Mangle Section
Mangle isn't part of the Security Breach era of FNaF, but becomes somewhat of a major character in this AU through personality in a way. So why not take a little bit to focus on it?
Mangle uses it/its or they/them pronouns, whichever the person referring to it is most comfortable with using for another person (it does prefer it/its though).
Michael couldn't find all of its parts and just put it in a room with a bunch of endoskeletons and said "go nuts". He regretted this when Mangle left that room looking like it came straight out of Human Centipede and scared the hell out of Evan.
It's basically siblings with Funtime Foxy, Lolbit, and later Roxy. Mangle is also really close with Toy Bonnie.
It tried taking the head off an endo-02 and putting Glamrock Freddy's head on it so he could walk around on his own, but it didn't work. It was disappointed because that meant most of the endoskeleton wasn't compatible with older models and it couldn't use any Glamrock endos it might find for itself :(
It gave Roxy a bit of a scare after she complained about getting completely fucked up, saying "Honey, you haven't seen shit yet" from the ceiling. It's very good at that.
How the FUCK did I get this out in time for the FNaF 6 anniversary on accident
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So I didn't realize that HW2 was gonna get posted earlier, but I have yet to see anything other than the leaked achievements and so I'm still gonna put my speculation here. Hopefully this doesn't make me sound like an idiot, hahaha-
I hypothesize we are playing as Gregory. Whether partially or through the entire game. I won't reference the leaked content for this, but I feel like a few of them support my arguments.
In the GGY story, Greg goes by the alias Dr. Rabbit, or Rab for short. It's heavily implied if not out-right stated that he was another follower of the Mimic in that, and was the one causing the therapists to go missing/be killed when they got too close in the therapy tapes as well as the story.
So, you can imagine the sirens going in my head when I saw the and heard of the First Aid minigames. There is no other "doctor" that I can think of in the games other than the alias that Greg uses.
I just feel either we're going to get an origin, a reflection on Gregory's past, or a mix of both. I could even see it building up to be "a nightmare" from present day Gregory with bits and pieces relating back to his follower days. Could even be more to that!
The first aid minigames out of all of them stuck out like a sore thumb to me. There's some that could possibly lead to Vanny/Vanessa, like the fast food ones in the Pizzaplex, but I'm not sure. If she were to be the Protagonist, it would still probably be a semi prequel and it would be how Gregory got involved in the first place(?)
Clearly, he's at the very least *involved* somehow. This is all speculation and, yknow, Just a Theory鈩笍, but I can't imagine that we WONT get something involving him, even if we don't play as him outright.
#karma talks#just a theories#help wanted 2#fnaf#fnaf hw2#may add more tags later but#this is all the tags im gonna use for now#yelling screaming
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Princess Quest
I will be honest. I'm not really fan of Princess Quest becoming part of the lore of Help Wanted and Security Breach. It raises too many questions how it works in-universe. Like,
1: Why does beating the game free Vanessa of her brainwashing?
2: Why is her brainwashing linked to this game?
3: And how did Glitchtrap do it exactly?
In GGY we learn Gregory's also under Glitchtrap's control, and he used the same method on him like with Vanessa. Throughout the story Tony tries to find GGY and ask him how he is able to get such high scores. With the knowledge we get by playing Security Breach. We know by beating Princess Quest frees Vanessa. So, we're able to piece together that Gregory is able to wiggle himself just a little out of his brainwashing and try to find and beat the game that has him under Glitchtrap's control.
Now that's actually something not unique to Gregory. In one of the e-mails of Special Delivery. We get hints of Vanessa also wiggling free of her brainwashing and trying to ask for help.
Hey, Ness,
Just a quick FYI - I know I mentioned trigger words, but the AI is actually a little more sophisticated than that, and of course there are people like me watching the system, too.
So, the word聽compliance聽by itself isn't going to set off any red flags, but the sentence聽how to induce compliance in human subjects, and聽how to induce self-compliance(?)聽did actually get my attention. (I think the answer might involve chocolate chip cookies? Always works on me.)
I also thought it was strange that these were immediately followed by searches that couldn't possibly have any relevant answers for you. Did you search for 'help' by itself?
Anyway, my offer still stands if you want to go over the company policy. I'm free any day after work - we could grab dinner or coffee if you want. In meantime you might want to do some of your more... interesting research at home.
-Luis
Now I'm very likely going to sound like an idiot for saying this. But I actually don't understand the whole "compliance" thing. As it's never brought back up after this e-mail. I have two theories.
1: It's Glitchtrap trying to find better methods to keep Vanessa brainwashed and he is using her login information to find it. So, Luis thinks it's her.
2: It's Vanessa trying to learn how to brainwash someone else so she can have her own follower.
The former is the most likely, but the latter can also be as well. If it is the latter. That would've made the mystery of who's under the white rabbit costume more of a mystery and have people guessing. It could also better justify why Vanessa can be out of costume and do her security guard job. While "Vanny" is doing something else at the same time. It could've been a Ghostface situation like in the Scream franchise (save for Scream 3).
And that could've been the twist and we would have felt sympathy for the woman who was either kidnapped or lured by Vanessa and then brainwashed to be her assistant in her plans to bring Glitchtrap back into the physical world.
But we know that's not the case. Vanessa and Vanny are the same person (NOT split personality). And because of that it makes it obvious as the two can't be in the same room together at the same time.
The self-compliance thing is obvious. Vanessa was looking for ways to make sure she would stay in control of her own actions. Possibly with trigger words or images of things she likes. However, this does be the question how much Vanessa is aware of her actions.
I don't like the idea of her blacking out and everything she does for Glitchtrap is done in a trance. It absolves her of her crimes.
But regardless this ends up going nowhere as I said above. As Steel Wool seemed to ignore a lot of these e-mails and chose to only acknowledge a select few. Even then there are some changes to them from what we get from Vanessa's therapy sessions we can listen to in SB.
Now this does back to Princess Quest despite it seemed like I went off course. Princess Quest was a bonus mini-game to the in/out of universe mobile port version of Help Wanted. Games only get ports to other consoles, PCs, or mobile devices when the original version is released first to the platform it was intended to be released for. So, Princess Quest came later in the timeline and Special Delivery makes no mention of it. Not even in the scrapped e-mails.
This shows that Steel Wool was in charge what happened in the story more so than Illumix. Illumix could add and expand it, but Steel Wool had the final say what was canon or not. So, I wouldn't use MOST of the e-mails in SD for any stories you want write that takes place during or slightly after Help Wanted.
But that does go back to the how's and why's of Princess Quest being the game that's binding Vanessa to Glitchtrap. It leaves this gap of time for Vanessa before the mobile version of Help Wanted in these unnecessary levels of vagueness.
It also doesn't make sense that you need to beat three Princess Quests to free Vanessa. We never learn what was Gregory's arcade game and we never learn if there was more than one. Plus, it's unknown if his method to be free was by getting almost impossible high scores or beating the game. As GGY implies his arcade game can be played by anyone in the Fazcade.
I liked it better of Princess Quest being a metaphor for Vanessa's story of being brainwashed into being Glitchtrap's follower.
#five nights at freddy's#five nights at freddy's: security breach#vanessa#princess quest#fnaf help wanted#my thoughts
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would it be uncreative to say a security breach remake.. like honestly? I think it'd be cool if they did at least try to remake the game, they could also rewrite things a bit to include stuff that was previously cut, I have hope that could be a possibility somewhere down the line.. but in this hypothetical scenario with seemingly no limit.. it'd be nice to go bold with a security breach remake, not just like a graphics remaster with a couple of dialogue changes.. It could be fun to give it a bit of a half-prequel opening, starting the game playing as one of Vanessa's previous victims, whether that's one of the new missing children or following the theory of the 'all staff meeting' resulting in employees being hunted by the animatronics, it could be a fun opening to show what Vanny's been doing before Gregory gets there, to give her a bit more backstory and context for WHY we should be afraid of her (because really, the final release of security breach doesn't do much to give us a reason to fear her.. especially with the lack of a weapon like. oh boy. there's a dancing bunny wandering around. she's, gonna kill you?? what made you draw that conclusion?? Or if we're following GGY the opening could show how Gregory gets freed depending on how interesting that is, considering we still don't have any near-canon answer to who freed him or why. There's interesting theories sure but I don't see a lot that points to a canon explanation imo. tbh my other idea for an opening/tutorial would probably be more fun.. I think from there I probably wouldn't do too severe rewrites from SB, more so fleshing out the ideas that are already there. Though I do enjoy the cut concept of Freddy being taken control of, especially considering how much the game made you hesitate to trust him in the beginning when in the end.. he's fine. I think having the Princess Quest ending be longer (especially since it seems to be the canon ending) could really add a lot more content to it. As of now the gameplay during that section is just.. run around the hallways until you reach the arcade machine, which kind of kills the tension when the game is so simple and if you die you can simply restart. Maybe add a bit more tension to it, like having the princess quest ending be more like traditional fnaf gameplay, you shut yourself in Vanny's room and try to multitask to beat the arcade game while keeping the animatronics away from the room, whether that's by hiding, the traditional power management, etc. I think it'd bring back that feeling of needing to really rush, as it is now you get more frantic gameplay through those halls and then.. ok go play a funny minigame and then you win bye :) Plus I always enjoy good characters turning evil that's just a fun trope, and it could add a lot more to the bad ending in that room too, if you don't try for the arcade cabinet, and just rush to the button, whether Freddy lives or dies, in that ending he's gone. Either disassembled or still under glitchtrap's control. That's all the thoughts off the top of my head for now but now that i think about it more, god, there are so many ways to improve this story through simple rewrites. writing like this is so fun to me genuinely if anyone wants to use these ideas for their own rewrites lmk i'd love to hear about it
Quickly fnaf fans! You are given 5 years and as much resources as you need to make a new fnaf game. What are you making?????
#hmm should i tag this? sure why not#fnaf sb#fnaf security breach#security breach#this was more fun to think about than i expected tho damn#i enjoyed that more than i thought i would
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ok damn tumblr removed some of my tags at the end. rude. so i'll just move this into a new post instead of keeping my rant in the tags LMAO It's just difficult to keep a fandom alive and well with no content to keep people interested. I'm not trying to say "oh everyone's going to stop caring about fnaf if we don't get news every month" because that's unrealistic. My point is that people are going to fade. They're still going to care, but they could just move onto other things while they wait. If you want to keep people excited, you need to give them something to be excited for. Another side-rant here but I think a lot of companies really need to understand how much trailers set up expectations. I mean this in two ways I guess.
聽First off, by making a big deal out of this trailer drop with that stupid eyes emojii and privated video on the playlist, they made it seem like a big announcement. If they dropped the video with no buildup, I highly doubt people would be this upset over it. The problem is they teased us with higher expectations and completely let us down.
聽Second, the trailers really set expectations more than you'd think. I think Ruin's teasing was PERFECT because it didn't really show us anything that the game DIDN'T build upon. I think it's a mistake to include minor details in trailers sometimes because people are going to assume it's a big deal. And I say this for plot important details, not gameplay mechanics. Ruin's first teaser was so perfect because it was so minimal. Everything shown was expanded on I feel like. The TV screens gave us doubt if it was the real Gregory without revealing who was behind it, most people thought it was Vanny/Glitchtrap at first, I don't think a lot of people saw the mimic coming until we got into late-game, especially people who haven't read the books. It set things up without giving anything away.
聽But HW2's trailer? It was a bit misleading almost. The first trailer starting with the Sister Location elevator and the hissing people thought had to do with the gas from the books that recently released, it gave people completely different expectations. Obviously the gas is important since it has to do with the past and William Afton and the shit he was up to, but Sister Location being relevant to SB would've been a huge connection.. and it kinda ended up wasted. Sister Location was just minigames and that's about it. No real lore relevance, only potential implications with the elevator being in PQ4. It kinda meant nothing. Even if it means something in future games, the point is, they've already built up those expectations for THIS game. While GGY being in HW2 was a bit of a stretch, I think the fact that multiple people predicted it shows it wasn't really a biased prediction, I think there was plenty of reason to believe Steel Wool would include more about.. y'know. THE MAIN CHARACTERS.
聽As much as I enjoy Cassie as a protagonist it kinda sucks that I feel like she has more canon development than Gregory or Vanessa. By their abscence alone it kind of sets up the expectation they'll be back.
聽It's not like we're asking for a huge trailer or anything. (although that'd be nice, we all know we're not going to get it for a while.) The issue is we have nothing. Not even crumbs. We can get excited for crumbs, but we can't get excited for nothing. I truly don't know why they haven't announced any new projects and it almost makes me wish they didn't announce Ruin and HW2 at the same time so we'd have a better gap inbetween releases. It's May at this point, if they take a few more months, it's gonna be a year since the last announcement for any new projects. And when the projects they announced last year are already out, there's not anything to latch onto.
聽I think Steel Wool just needs to understand fans expectations. When there's no new games announced and you send a stupid eyeball emojii, guess what, people are going to assume it's a new game. Not a port to a new console for a pre-existing game. Fans don't have high expectations, because they're not giving us anything to work with. If they just announced HW2 DLC or the next game or whatever the next project is- We would have something to look forward to. The port wouldn't have been such a disappointment. We don't have high expectations here, we're not asking for a big trailer with a ton of gameplay and all that.. all we ask for is crumbs. just confirmation there IS a new project in development.聽
At this point I don't even care if the next project is HW2 dlc steel wool needs to announce SOMETHING
At least even when SB was developed we had an announcement and teasers to keep us excited.
Right now we have nothing. Let's be real, most people aren't going to give a shit about the same game being released on a new console. We're all DYING for new content of any kind at this point.
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