#we should stop comparing anti endos to racists as well
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tempesttz · 4 months ago
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there is a little nuance to it i will say. after 18 years on whatever god most recently called upons not-so-green earth and however long it took me to develop the current opinions i have now i've realized that:
attempting to exclude individuals i have disagreements with from interacting with me pushes them further into their echo chamber, we are all creating our own little bubbles and many of them are based upon hating another group of people. that's Not Good. we should interact with people we disagree with
a lot of antis have no fucking clue what an endogenic system even is. i've had to explain "no, they're not pretending to have a disorder. they don't want your disorder. they just have people in their head" more than once now it's been great (it hasn't)
i wouldn't say anti endos are on the same levels as homophobes and definitely not the same as nazis. those people can and will legitimately harm or kill people in violent hatecrimes. antis are usually children who've been misinformed by a large group of people they trust in an internet microcommunity which is being fed into by this terrible awful ideology on the internet that as long as you have a justification for it you can be as awful as you want to people. this is an issue in every community
that being said, i will agree that
interacting with people who post violent hatred of pretty much any community is bad. it doesn't help anyone. (i'm not talking about schoolyard insults or calling them little shits or poo poo heads or the evil woke mind virus or saying you're gonna fling them full force into the abyss or something because at the end of the day that is an insult. statistically, most people will survive being insulted, and you can get insulted on the internet for anything. and silly little threats don't harm anyone either, as long as it is clear the intent is to be silly or nonserious with it. "i hope you trip down a flight of stairs" even really is fine because it's common and usually said hyperbolically. i'm talking about death threats, genuine hopes that harm come to people, paranoiabaiting, etc.)
i understand not wanting to interact with anyone who's anti endo who happens to be pro endo (or similar circumstances) out of personal comfort reasons, that's fine. their reputation stinks. they have a habit of being some of the most aggressive jerkasses on the internet while being literally objectively misinformed. i have had terrible experiences. i will forever support people's right to not talk to people with a reputation for being absolute awful individuals.
we should stand up for pro-endos and endogenic systems, absolutely. we need more defense of them, even if public opinion is getting definitely less hostile over time it still is very hostile.
i guess what i'm saying is i see the interactions as a step in the right direction honestly, as long as all parties are comfortable doing so. and no one's being violently hateful on main.
"im pro-endo but i dont mind anti-endos interacting" would you allow a homophobe to interact with you? a transphobe? a racist? an ableist? a nazi? why is it suddenly different and "not as bad" when the discrimination, harassment, and death threats dont affect you specifically? why is it suddenly a "nuanced situation" when you arent the victim? are you really "pro-endo" if you refuse to even do the bare minimum to stand up for them instead of being best friends with people who want them to not exist?
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