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You see, in one hand I have a bomb that KILLS YOU, and the only way to disarm it is to talk about ifrit and Swiss using their dick piercings on dew. If you fail to complete my task the bomb will explode.

Good luck!

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man i hope this means i get to live

have 4k words of ghouls with piercings

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They say patience is a virtue.

Ghouls are the opposite of virtue. They’re born from the Infernal, vice and sin running through their bodies like blood. They’re ravenous gluttons who take what they want when they want it. If they desire something then they will have it. But who’s to say a ghoul can’t learn?

Swiss and Ifrit certainly did. For eight weeks they followed a strict cleaning routine and relied on only their hands and tongues when their minds got hazy with lust. A Herculean task if you were to ask Swiss. Even now that the piercings were healed they waited. They had to, Ifrit had ordered something special for them. When the package finally arrived though, they sprung. They were tired of waiting.

Dew is in his room, lying on his stomach in bed. He’s got his headphones on, music playing while he flips through the latest edition of a comic book he’s been following. He’s in nothing but a pair of sweatpants, enjoying the feeling of the sunlight filtering in through the window on his bare back. He doesn’t hear the knock on his door. His head perks up though when he sees movement out of the corner of his eye. He slides his headphones off when he sees Ifrit and Swiss, letting it hang around his neck.

“Can I help you?” Dew asks with no real venom. Honestly, he’s more confused than anything. Ifrit usually meets Zephyr at this time of day so they can walk back to the den together.

“Do you know what day it is droplet?” Ifrit stalks over to his bed.

“Thursday?” Dew sits up as Ifrit approaches.

“Think he forgot If.” Swiss slides up right alongside Ifrit.

“No, he’s not that stupid. Right droplet? You’re not that stupid are you?” He says in that sickly sweet tone that always makes Dew squirm.

Dew narrows his eyes, wracking his brain to figure out what these two want from him. When it finally hits him he can feel the blush rise on his cheeks.

“Yeah, he remembers,” Ifrit laughs.

Dew remembers all right. When Ifrit and Swiss came to him asking if he’d pierce their dicks he didn’t think anything of it. Ifrit and Dew are the only ghouls who know how to do piercings and it’s not like he can stick a needle in his own cock. He should’ve known better with those two. The entire time they spewed all the things they’d do to Dew once they were healed. As a thank you. A promise. Dew thought it was more of a threat. Even so, he’d be lying if he said he didn’t think about their words later that night when he was all alone. Imagining how different they’d feel. How fast Ifrit would cum, already too fucking sensitive even without the piercing. How gorgeous Swiss would look with more gold on his body.

He doesn’t have to imagine anymore. He finally gets to see his handiwork since he did it. Ifrit was adamant about keeping it a surprise. It isn’t like he could protest, Ifrit was the one who taught Dew after all. He knows more than him about this junk. He knows Ifrit wouldn’t have himself and Swiss in here if he wasn’t confident they were healed. Still Dew protests, it’s half of the fun for him.

“It’s only been what? Seven? Eight weeks? You know it can take up to like fourteen weeks for it to heal.” Dew gets up, carefully placing his headphones and comic book on his desk.

“Well if you’re that concerned why don’t you give us your professional opinion.” Swiss comes up behind him, pressing his hips into Dew’s effectively pinning him against the desk.

Dew tries to focus on anything but the feeling of Swiss’ half hard cock poking him in the back, “Hey Ifrit’s been doing this shit longer than me, ask him.”

“Don’t throw your work onto me droplet. Finish what you started.”

Dew rolls his eyes, squirming in Swiss’ grasp until he has enough room to push on his chest, “Fine fine whatever. Get your cocks out so we can get this over with.”

“You say that like you don’t wanna see them sparky.” Swiss grins, twisting one of Dew’s nipples before backing off of him.

He nearly puts a hole through his tongue with how hard he bites it just so a noise doesn’t escape his throat. He crosses his arms over his chest, tail twitching between his legs. He looks at them expectantly. Ifrit moves first, sitting on the end of Dew’s bed and toeing his boots off.

“Fuck are you doing?” Dew hisses.

“Gettin comfortable.” Ifrit shrugs, tucking his socks into his boots.

Dew scowls in hopes of hiding the way his eyes rake over Ifrit’s form, too tight white tee doing little to hide the muscles rippling underneath. He continues to undress, popping the button on his jeans, a small sigh breathed through his nose. He shucks them off, tossing them who knows where before grinning at Dew. He palms himself through his boxers.

“You don’t need to get fucking naked,” Dew huffs, shifting on his feet as he feels his own cock getting chubby with interest.

“I already told you. I’m gettin comfortable.” He leans back on the bed after throwing his shirt off, leaving him in nothing but his underwear.

Dew stares at him. Eyes traveling down to the tent of the thin material and back up again, pausing to admire the silver bars threaded through his nipples. There are faded bruises adorning his chest, likely left by a ravenous air ghoul. Dew can’t help but wonder what Zephyr’s been doing to him while he’s been healing. His mouth waters at the way his muscles flex when he shifts to sit up. Ifrit is not much bigger than Dew height wise, but his muscular form makes Dew feel tiny. He’s so enraptured with the sight of Ifrit he doesn’t even notice Swiss. That is, until the spell is broken by a crumbled up shirt being thrown at his head.

“Quit drooling, we haven't even gotten our dick out yet,” Swiss snickers.

“I’m not drooling. I just spaced out. Not my fault he’s taking forever to get to the point,” Dew hisses, pulling the offending fabric off his face.

He almost wishes he left it on. Almost. Swiss and Ifrit are both lounging on the edge of his bed. Both stripped down to their underwear, tails lazily flicking behind them. Swiss has his head tilted, grinning at him with half lidded eyes. Ifrit motions for Dew to come closer with a finger. His legs move before his brain and he finds himself standing between Ifrit’s legs before he knows what’s happening. He rests a hand on Dew’s hip, thumb toying with the waistband of his sweatpants.

“Well droplet. You said you wanted to get this over with.” Ifrit looks up at him expectantly.

Dew swallows, trying to regain his facade. But that’s hard to do with two gorgeous ghouls offering themselves up to you. He reaches a hand out, the tips of his claws gliding over Ifrit’s chest. He can’t help but push down on the almost healed bruises when he passes over them. He runs his hands over his torso, mapping out topography he knows like the back of his hand. He couldn’t stop himself if he tried, Ifrit has always had that effect on him. Always made him want to take things slow so he can touch and taste and worship. That’s not what Ifrit wants right now though.

He knocks his knees into the backs of Dew’s with enough force to make them buckle. Dew hits the floor, barely catching himself on Ifrit’s thighs. He looks up at him with a questioning look.

“Who’s the one taking forever now droplet?” He runs a hand through Dew’s hair.

“Go fuck yourself,” Dew huffs, rolling his eyes. Still, he sits up straighter, slipping his fingers into the waistband of Ifrit’s boxers.

He pulls them down far enough to get Ifrit’s cock out and oh is he caught off guard. The simple bar Dew had put in when he first pierced them has been replaced. This one is silver, the same as the other, but it has a ring on it. On the end of the ring is a beautiful red gem.

“You…got new jewelry,” Dew says, probably more breathless than he should be.

“Course we did.” Ifrit shrugs.

“We?” Dew turns to look at Swiss.

His eyes widen when he sees the same exact piece on Swiss, only instead of silver it’s gold.

“What? Got tired of waitin.” Swiss flashes his fangs, giving himself a single, slow stroke.

Ifrit tugs Dew’s hair just enough to get him to look at him again, “Like them droplet?”

Dew nods, blush tinging his cheeks.

“Good. We picked 'em just for you. A little piece of our dewbug always with us.”

“They look just like your eyes when the light hits them right, don’t they?” Swiss slides closer, pressing against Ifrit’s side so he can look down at Dew.

Dew stares down at Ifrit’s jewel. It does look like his eyes, dying embers that glow in darkness. His stomach swoops at the thought, knowing that whenever they see their jewelry they’ll think of him. He doesn’t know if they meant it as a genuine act or simply a way to torture him, but he can’t find it in himself to care at the moment. All he cares about is the sight in front of him. He glances back up at Ifrit and Swiss, silently seeking permission.

“You really like them don’t you?” Ifrit hums.

Dew nods, throat bobbing when he swallows. The hand in Dew’s hair tightens.

“Why don’t you show us how much you like it?”

Dew doesn’t need to be told twice. He leans forward, letting Ifrit’s cock drag along his cheek as he nestles his nose into the sparse hair at the base. He breathes deeply before planting a feather light kiss, tongue darting out to lick over the vein. Dew smiles when he hears the soft sigh Ifrit lets out. He continues on that path, slowly kissing and licking up his shaft until he’s back at the head. He flicks his tongue over the slit, collecting the small bead of pre that bubbled up. Ifrit curses and cups the back of his head, silently urging him on.

Dew huffs a laugh but obliges, all faux protest gone from his body. He lets his tongue experimentally drag over the ball of the piercing. Ifrit groans when the bar shifts under his skin, hips involuntarily twitching forward.

“You sure you thought this through If? You were already way too easy before,” Dew mocks, breath ghosting over Ifrit’s flushed skin.

Before Ifrit gets the chance to respond Dew wraps his lips around the tip, suckling gently at the same time he cups his balls. He drags his tongue over the piercing until Ifrit is huffing and squirming above him. Dew loves this part. The moment Ifrit’s big strong ghoul facade fades and he’s begging. Desperate. Though he doesn’t get quite that far this time.

“Alright okay give him here before you blow your load to some foreplay.” Swiss wraps a hand around one of Dew’s horns, pulling him off with a slick pop.

Ifrit gasps, all sensation suddenly gone. He turns to glare at Swiss, but he doesn’t stop him. Embarrassment prickles at his skin, but Swiss is right. He was already dangerously close and Dew had barely done anything. He knew it was going to be different, but he didn’t think it would be that different.

Swiss uses his grip on Dew’s horn to turn his head, almost as if inspecting him, “Can’t be that fucking good.”

Dew gives him his best shit eating grin, tongue flicking out between his fangs “I’m always that fucking good.”

“Why don’t you bring that pretty little mouth over here then?” Swiss loosens his hold on his horn.

“Aww you think I’m pretty.”

Dew leans forward immediately, pressing a kiss to the sticky tip. He darts his tongue out, collecting drops of pre. Tasting just to taste. He wraps a hand around Swiss’ shaft, slowly stroking it while he works the rest of him with his mouth.

“Fucking gorgeous,” Swiss sighs, tilting his head back and closing his eyes.

Dew hums, eyes flicking up to watch Swiss’ face. He wants to see it when it happens. Wants to see how his expression changes when Dew finally laves over that little piece of metal. He shifts on his knees, palming himself with his free hand. His cock twitches just at the thought. Ifrit is easy. It’s never been hard to make him shake, but Swiss was another story. Swiss was good at keeping his composure. Only time he’s ever seen him lose it was the day Dew spied on him with Mountain and Rain. He wants him to cry just like he did then. He looks so pretty when he cries.

Dew stays where he’s at for a few more moments, letting Swiss peacefully float in the familiarity. Dew decides he’s been nice enough. He squeezes the base of Swiss’ cock before dragging the flat of his tongue over the piercing. Swiss lets out a noise so loud and high pitched it shocks even himself, hand flying to cover his mouth. His eyes fly open, blush tinging his cheeks as he looks down at Dew. Dew grins up at him before repeating the movement. Swiss makes the same noise, only this time muffled by his hand. His hips involuntarily twitch forward, hitting the back of Dew’s throat. He gags and pulls off of Swiss, blinking rapidly a few times to fight off the tears that it brought.

He takes a few deep breaths in between laughs, “Lords Below if you could see the look on your face.”

In all these years he’s never seen Swiss look like this. He’s staring at him with wide eyes, hand still over his mouth, and chest rising and falling rapidly. His cheeks are flushed, sweat dotting around his hairline. He looks like he’s never been touched in his entire life. Dew grins and slides up on his knees.

“Just imagine how it would feel wrapped around my—“ he’s cut off by two hands suddenly wrapping around his middle.

He yelps when he’s picked up and tossed back onto his bed. He whips his head up, glaring at Ifrit.

“Can I fucking help you?”

“I need to cum in you,” he pants, crawling over to him.

Dew pauses for a moment before laughing and turning over to rest on his forearms and wiggle his ass in the air. “Shit if I knew this is what it would be like I would’ve pierced your cock a long time ago.”

Ifrit doesn’t respond, hands coming forward to grip the meat of Dew’s ass.

“Hold the fuck up a minute, I was using him,” Swiss butts in, tail lashing behind him.

“I don’t care,” Ifrit hisses, “do whatever the Hell you want, but I need to cum in him.”

“Ladies please there’s enough Dewdrop to go arou—oh shit.” Dew’s claws dig into his sheets as Ifrit spreads his cheeks, dragging the flat of his tongue over his hole.

Swiss uses it as his opportunity to snake his way over to the headboard, resting against it and pulling Dew forward. He runs his thumb over his bottom lip, huffing a laugh when Dew darts his tongue out to lick over the pad. He opens his mouth to speak, but he’s cut off by another slow lick from Ifrit.

“It’s been too long since I’ve tasted you droplet,” Ifrit sighs.

Dew��s cock twitches, a blurt of pre dripping down onto the mattress. He curses, getting a hand around himself.

“You can’t just fucking say that.”

“I don’t wanna hear you,” Ifrit shushes him, “just wanna feel you. Just let me feel you. Just shut up and take it.”

Dew opens his mouth to snap back, but Swiss is quick. He shoves two fingers into his mouth, pressing down on his tongue.

“Oh don’t you worry If, I’ll keep that mouth busy.”

Swiss meets Dew’s eyes, searching for any signs of genuine protest. Dew grins around his fingers, wrapping his tongue around them. Swiss grins back, fangs glinting in the light. He pulls his fingers out of Dew’s mouth. He strokes his cock a few times, slicking himself up with his saliva before nudging the head against Dew’s lips.

Dew tries to focus on Swiss, but it’s extremely hard with a very needy fire ghoul trying to quickly work him open. All he can think about is that hot, wet tongue gliding over his hole again and again, occasionally trying to work its way in. He closes his eyes, pressing back against Ifrit’s face when he swirls his tongue. He doesn’t see Swiss and Ifrit’s eyes meeting, a subtle nod coming from the multi ghoul. Ifrit grins, two fingers coming up to press against Dew.

He gasps when calloused pads circle over his hole. Swiss takes his chance, cupping the back of Dew’s head to push him down on his cock. His eyes snap open, but he doesn’t resist, letting Swiss shove him all the way down until his nose is nestled in the thick hair at the base. He takes a few deep breaths through his nose, letting his throat relax. Swiss rests his other hand on Dew’s cheek, thumbing at the skin until he can feel himself.

“Finish what you started,” Swiss purrs.

Dew swallows around Swiss at the same time Ifrit works his fingers inside, a low moan vibrating through him. The stretch burns and Dew loves it, pushing his hips back for more. Luckily Ifrit is quick with it, scissoring and curling his fingers just enough to know his dick will go in. He groans when he pulls away and a string of slick still connects them.

“How the fuck are you still so fucking wet?” He sounds breathless, like he’s been punched in the gut.

He gives himself a few quick strokes, spreading the mix of pre and slick. He doesn’t want to wait a second more to be inside of Dew. He lines himself, shuddering at the feeling of his piercing dragging against Dew’s walls when he begins to push in.

Dew melts at the sensation, a rumbly little noise from the back of his throat vibration through Swiss’ cock. He didn’t expect it to feel this good. It reminds him of those textured toys Rain likes to use on him only better. He can feel Ifrit throbbing inside of him, can feel heat radiating off him likely caused by their elements feeding off each other. Can hear how loud he’s breathing, putting all his focus into not blowing before he gets even a single stroke in. Dew grins around Swiss before clenching as hard as he can. Ifrit groans like he’s been hurt, claws reflexively digging into Dew’s slight hips.

“Swiss,” Ifrit hisses.

“Yeah yeah alright,” Swiss breathes, “you’ve had your fun sparky, let us have ours.”

He holds the back of Dew’s head in a vice as he begins to roll his hips up into his mouth. He moves slowly until he’s sure Dew won’t gag and pull off. When those pretty little embers look at him through heavy lids he throws caution to the wind. He grasps the sides of Dew’s head with both hands, holding him still. He fucks into his throat, sighing heavily when he feels the muscles contract. Dew tries to keep up with, flicking over the piercing each time Swiss pulls back. He wants to feel him shake.

His focus is split though. He doesn’t know where to turn his attention. Ifrit and Swiss move opposite of each other. When Swiss pulls back, Ifrit slams into his ass. When Ifrit pulls back, Swiss shoves his cock down his throat. It’s driving him insane. He wants nothing more than to make one of them cum so hard they cry but he can’t do that if his mind is being pulled in two different directions. All he can do is lay there and take. Like he’s nothing more than a fucking toy.

“You look so pretty when you drool.” Swiss sighs. The spade of his tail snakes up to rub against Dew’s cock, collecting the pre that’s dribbling down.

“Let me taste him fuck let me—“

Swiss shoves the end of his tail into Ifrit’s mouth. He shudders at the feeling of his tongue licking every last drop of Dew off of it. His hips stutter in their rhythm, all of his senses flooded with Dew. He picks up his pace, solely focused on getting over the edge. Dew’s claws prick against the meat of Swiss’ thighs with the suddenness. He ignores it though, focused on fucking his spade into Ifrit’s mouth.

“Gonna cum big guy? Gonna fill that tight little ass?” Swiss lilts.

Dew’s stomach swoops at the noise Ifrit lets out. He can’t stop the muffled little moans with every drag over his prostate. That little piece of jewelry makes it that much better. He squeezes around his cock and that’s all it takes. Ifrit throws his head back, the tip of Swiss’ tail falling out his mouth as he spills into Dew. His hips twitch forward as each wave crashes over him, fucking his cum deeper into him.

Swiss flicks one of his nipples with his tail just to hear him keen, “Lasted longer than I thought you would, good job If. Might even be a new record for you.”

Ifrit glares at him, “Fuck…off…” he says between gulps of air.

“Now that he’s out of the picture,” Swiss grins down at Dew, “I get you all to myself baby.”

He picks up right where he left off, fucking up into Dew’s throat so he chokes on him. Dew doubles down now that Ifrit has pulled out of him, flopping down onto the bed. He swallows around Swiss, dragging his tongue up his shaft to roll over the piercing.

“Yeah baby, c'mon give me that pretty little mouth,” Swiss pants.

Dew reaches a hand down to cup his balls, gently squeezing and rolling them. He knows he’s close when he drops Dew’s head in favor of wrapping a hand around his throat to feel himself with each thrust.

Ifrit figures he’ll return the favor. He presses himself close to Swiss’ side before tucking his nose under his chin to lick over his pulse. He trails wet, open mouthed kisses up his jawline to his ear. He nips at his lobe before sucking a mark where jaw meets neck.

That’s enough to throw him over the edge. He thrusts up into Dew’s mouth one more time before cumming with a shout. Dew sucks him through it, drinking down every last drop. He doesn’t stop until Swiss is pushing his head away from him, overstimulation starting to set in. He pulls off of him with an obscene pop. He smiles and wipes his mouth with the back of his hand.

“Can’t believe I’m gonna say this, but this was probably the best idea you two have ever had.” He crawls over to squeeze himself between them.

Ifrit hums and kisses the top of his head, “Should do you next droplet.”

“As fun as that sounds, if you go anywhere near my dick with a needle I’ll kill you.”

“Aw come on, it wasn't that bad.” Swiss traces shapes over Dew’s arm with the tips of his claws.

“You jumped when I put the marker on you,” Dew says flatly.

Swiss pinches his nipple harder than what could be considered for pleasure. Dew yelps and smacks his hands away.

“Dick.”

“Love you too sparky.”

They lay in silence for a few more moments, contented purrs rumbling through their chests. Dew floats between consciousness and unconsciousness, ready to fall asleep any minute. Though he’s suddenly slammed back into the world when he feels a too warm hand wrap around his barely half hard cock. His eyes snap open.

“Didn’t think we’d leave you hanging did you?” Ifrit breathes into his ear.

He hears Swiss laugh before he feels fangs drag along his shoulder to his neck.

“Let us return the favor.” Swiss bites at his pulse.

Dew doesn’t get to sleep that night.

#the band ghost #ghost bc #nameless ghouls #the band ghost fic #dewdrop ghoul #swiss ghoul #ifrit ghoul #swiss x dewdrop #dewdrop x ifrit #ifrit x swiss #golfball writes

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aamy2100982 · 14 days ago

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Something I don't like so much about the latest Venom comics is the sudden victimization of the symbiote regarding their decisions in life.

This thing about Symby never wanting to do anything bad and almost putting all the blame on Eddie for the events in which they were Spiderman's villains

This whole "If we didn't do it, Eddie was going to die, It was my responsibility" thing. When we know that in the early comics the symbiote didn't give a shit about Eddie.

I believe you that at first Symby didn't necessarily want to kill Peter. But after that, any chance Spider-Man gave the symbiote to come back to him, Symby was willing to abandon Eddie in the middle of the street, naked and likely to die or try to kill himself again.

Until, of course, they realized that Spiderman didn't give a shit about them and decided that they wouldn't fall for his traps anymore and would stay with Eddie "permanently".

We understand it now, and we think it's beautiful that the symbiote felt a responsibility to help Eddie. But that's the current writers changing the story to make the symbiote look like a white dove and not what it is. An effectively bad and toxic person.

That many times is willing to kill and/or manipulate others in order to obtain a perfect symbiosis. Like when they manipulated Eddie into believing that he had cancer or when they tried to kill the priest of that church because he told Eddie that no one can force you to do things you don't want to do.

And this is not just an attitude they had with Spiderman. But also with Eddie himself.

I understand the whole point of the symbiote's redemption. Realizing that they past actions are wrong and wanting to do better in the future. My problem is how the writers are handling it.

It's not like Eddie's redemption, where he realizes that he as a person is wrong for everything he did. It's more taken from the perspective where Symby almost blames Eddie for his destructive attitudes against Spiderman. When it's evident that the symbiote tends to seriously hurt those who don't follow things the way they wants them to go.

I feel like the way things are put is right... but wrong. I read it and feel like something is off, like it doesn't feel the way it should feel.

Because we get a “I never really wanted to do any of this,” and then we get a “I don’t like fighting Eddie... am I?” Which tells me that the symbiote isn’t really giving up on itself, because it’s doing the same thing it always does. Trying to kill a host and then attaching to it when it gets the chance to come back. What changed then?

What was the point of this whole emo phase where the symbiote sought to end its own life? Did something change, or is Symby just wallowing in self-pity like Eddie did when he was Anti Venom and Venom and any other phase of his life xd

Maybe they are made for each other. I love Symby, but they've been trying to excuse it's past actions for a while now, and I can only watch the symbiote lying in the dirt while waiting for others to tell them "it's not true, you're not bad, you can still change."

And the symbiote pretends to believe it as it goes and repeats its past actions to the letter.

#eddie brock #venom comics #spiderman #venom symbiote #anti venom

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luvjunie · 1 year ago

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Beyond the Spiderverse Theory!!

contains spoilers for across the spiderverse

okay so in the next movie, beyond the spiderverse, i think miles’ dad will survive. somehow, someway he’ll be saved from his untimely death.

miles was told numerous times in across the spiderverse that he cannot have his cake and eat it too. and he retorts with “unless you have two cakes!” miles is unmoving on his belief of “spiderman always does both.”

while reading out what he wants the bakery to write on the cake, he’s told it won’t fit on one. so he opts for buying two cakes, but while being spiderman, stopping a villain and swinging to his apartment, (aka: trying to do both) he’s late for his parents’ party, both of the cakes are ruined, he misses his dad’s heartfelt speech and then gets grounded. essentially the lesson from this is that he has to choose his battles correctly, that he cannot do both.

when miles finds out his dad is supposed to die, he tells miguel that he can save his father and save the city/civilians, because spiderman ALWAYS does both, but like we‘ve seen numerous times, sometimes doing both just isn’t possible. in order to have one thing, you have to give up something else. he’s told that this is what being spiderman is all about, that this is what he signed up for.

miles isn’t satisfied with this answer, and says he’s gonna do his own thing.

a good portion of the movie focuses on the development of miles’ and his mom’s relationship, while him and his dad’s is still kind of rocky. he’s growing up right in front of her eyes and she has to change the way she parents, but expresses that she’s scared of losing her little boy to the world, and that she just wants to protect him because others might not have his best interests at heart— and we end up seeing that later on. our focus is pulled from this when we see what miles’ canon event is supposed to be— his dad’s death.

where i’m going with this? the one you expect is never the one they take. usually the character who we think is the safest, is actually the one who’s in danger.

in miles’ comics, during the battle with venom, he saves his father from dying but while this happens, the police accidentally shoot (and kill) his mother, rio, when they were aiming for venom. and as she’s bleeding out in his arms, this is when he finally confesses to her that he’s spiderman (something he didn’t get to do at the end of the movie because he was in the wrong universe). more happens w this in the comics but we know sometimes movies don’t follow the plot to a T, and beyond the spiderverse is supposed to be the end to his story.

so let’s replace venom with another villain that we’ve recently been introduced to, the spot. another ridiculously powerful villain that the cops will stupidly try and apprehend with guns that don’t stand a chance like they always do.

that being said, i don’t think they’re going to kill off miles’ dad.

i think they’re going to kill off his mom.

#PLEASE GOD LET ME BE WRONG #they better not i stg #across the spiderverse #miles morales #beyond the spiderverse #beyond the spiderverse theory #spiderman astv #rio morales #jeff morales

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french-toast-enjoyer · 6 months ago

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Venom essay baybey!!!!

as promised, here's my essay on symbrock as a dynamic! thank you to my contributors @symbiotic-slime

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@bloodyaliens and @shiningstardan for helping me gather resources and testimony! the paper is a bit amateur but i hope it's an okay read! please let me know if I forgot to tag you!

Symbrock– or, A Complex Love Affair Between Parasite and Host

23 April, 2024

Abstract

An investigation into “Symbrock,” or the bizarre emotional relationship between Eddie Brock– a struggling journalist and Spider-Man villain– and Venom– the parasitic alien symbiote that lives in Eddie’s body. Herein will discuss the themes, appeal, and complicated nature of the dynamic. This is a dissertation, this is an analytical dissection, but above all, this is a love story.

Keywords: Symbrock. portmanteau of “symbiote” and “Brock.”

In the fall of 2018, Venom had his individual film debut to millions of Spider-Man fans and casual movie-goers. The movie was critically panned. Fans of Spider-Man and critics of pop culture media united to declare that they hated the "buddy cop" direction that writers Kelly Marcel and Ruben Fliesher had taken the character of Venom. Many believed that Marcel (most known for screen adapting Fifty Shades of Grey) wasted the film's grizzly horror potential exploring the getting-together of Eddie and Venom. The majority had spoken, the movie had failed. So why was the fandom exploding? Within days, there were threads, blog posts, and video essays, all delving into a new obsession with this chummy characterization of Eddie Brock and the Venom symbiote. Intrigued by it, turned on by it, and desperate for more content of it, this mysterious fan base began to go through nearly forty years of lore for more of the duo they loved. What they found changed the perception of Venom as a character. Venom historians, fans, and even comic writers declared that Eddie Brock and the symbiote were in love. But the question remains, why these two? What was the evidence, what was the response, and why did this relationship appeal to the queer audience it'd captured? In short, why had Venom become a queer icon?

Symbrock– or, A Complex Love Affair Between Parasite and Host

When “I” became “We”

There is groundwork to lay in regards to proving the nature of this dynamic, and it begins with understanding what binds the two physically and spiritually, requiring readers to go back to the beginning.

While originally brought together by a mutual hatred of Spider-Man (read, The Amazing Spider-Man #300, 1988) the earliest example of a deeper bond between Brock and Venom comes to us in Venom: The Hunger (1996). Within the comic itself, Eddie Brock and Venom’s dynamic is threatened by the symbiote’s cannibalistic desires, which Eddie can not cope with.

If we blur our eyes and look at The Hunger, we see a story about Eddie coming to terms with the inherent violence and needs of Venom. Specifically, he sees how the symbiote needs a chemical compound called phenethylamine to survive– a fact that often leads him to eat human brains to get his fix. A trait that disturbs Brock so much that it drives the symbiote away, leaving the man without powers. In a straightforward manner, the story follows Eddie's journey to accept this hunger in order to remain bonded to Venom. In the final pages of the comic, Eddie brings the symbiote a vial of phenethylamine, as well as promises to share his own. The two reunite to create something stronger once again. From a distance, it's an exploration into what binds the two physically, but it’s not a fair one. Upon closer inspection, The Hunger is much more than a story of compromise.

The deep eroticism of Venom, to most, begins with the very chemical that the symbiote subsists on. For the purposes of Eddie and Venom's connection, it's important to know that phenethylamine is chemically similar to phenylethylamine– commonly referred to as “the love hormone.” According to the National Institute of Health (NIH), when concentrated, the compound has similar effects on the brain to amphetamines. Broadly, it is considered a “feel-good” chemical, and is associated with sensations of intense euphoria and gratification due to its releases of dopamine. (read: NIH). Including a chemical associated with love, sex, and even chocolate is obviously an intentional decision on the writer's part. There are thousands of compounds that comic creators had to choose from. Fear hormones, rage hormones, all things that could've related more to the brutal nature of Venom as a villain.

But the writer, Len Kaminski, chose love. And so was born Venom’s obsession with the chemical, leading him to chase it in all its forms, from human brains and nerve endings– to, as seen in the last panels of The Hunger, a heart-shaped box of chocolates, which the symbiote says is a great source of phenethylamine. There it is, a scientific explanation of why Venom feeds on love. But even with this justification of the phenomenon, Kaminski refuses to pull punches, refuses to make this platonic.

All I Ever Want Is Just A Little Love

Kaminski’s reading of Brock is far beyond romantic, and it bleeds into how writers would interpret the character even decades later (most notably, Mike Costa’s Venom run from 2016-2019). In the first volume of Hunger, Kaminski writes a heartbreaking scene in which, after eating a man’s brain, Eddie shows a deep remorse that drives Venom to separate from their bond. This was mentioned above, but what was not mentioned was how the symbiote left Brock; naked and trembling in a back alley, begging “the other” not to abandon him. The man is left in a state of temporary psychosis without Venom, his brain leached of all phenethylamine. After a stint in a tortuous sanitarium, he chases the symbiote down and reunites with it, claiming proudly “It’s not human, but it’s given me things no girlfriend ever could,” and declaring that he finally has enough love to sustain the titular hunger.

This wouldn’t be the last time Eddie would be written as captivated by his love for Venom, but it would go on to influence later iterations of the character, from the aforementioned Costa run to directorial notes of the films that’d launched the character into infamy.

In Venom #150, Mike Costa compared the bond between Brock and Venom to marriage. The interaction is a chilling one, taking place within the church where the two originally bonded, and where Eddie angsts about the nature of their relationship. He confesses, in vague terms, to a priest, that he loves his “other,” but that he’s been driven to do things he never would have done before. When the father implies that the dynamic isn’t healthy, we see a violent, possessive side of Venom. The symbiote overtakes Eddie’s body and nearly kills the priest– an action he later repents for the very same priest. He vows to try to be better in the name of devotion to his other. This marks a shift in Venom’s character and a complex arc into a more open and honest relationship between the two. And, as stated previously, this interpretation would grow to be popular with an audience of queer people, but the question remains as to why.

All Guts and Heart. There's an air of nuanced relatability to Venom as a unit. On online forums, users within the fandom each have unique reasons for loving the ship. Some enjoy that both characters are relatable outcasts, some are enthralled with the trope of “idiots in love” present in their dynamic, and some are just plain attracted to Venom.

But for a more devoted sect of the fan base, the intrigue lay in the intense physical proximity between symbiote and host. The potential for intimacy that comes with literally sharing a mind and body is intense. Venom, according to both the comics and films, sees every thought, compulsion, desire, and regret Eddie has, and Brock can do just the same to Venom.

One example of this is an excerpt from Marvel Comics Presents #5 (2019), which recently became circulated for its dark, provocative, and tense language. In the comic, Venom is handling the man with their tendrils while speaking in his mind. “We can feel every dirty curve of Eddie's intentions. All that lust entangled with terror.” and later, “We enjoy the taste of Eddie's heartbeat. Strong, solid, sweet … Should we make it go faster?” To which Eddie responds, “Watch the teeth.”

Fans were stunned by the sensuality of these panels; particularly on Tumblr, a popular blogging website. One fan claimed to have even seen a phallic shape in the dreamscape of flesh and teeth that the scene was set in. Many more declared the scene was a sex act.

It seems almost like an intentional callback to the “It's not human,” line. As though the writers are willing to explore the dynamic in a romantic and psychological context, and fans love getting to see this dimension of the characters– even when the subject matter is dark.

As with any piece of media, fan interaction is integral to the longevity and survival of a fan base, so it'd be an obvious point to investigate opinions of Venom within the fandom.

Fan testimonials. When asked why the ship appealed to them, popular Symbrock blogger @symbiotic-slime responded, “I guess I would describe it as the intimacy of being known? Having your self laid bare and someone else seeing and knowing everything about you and still choosing to stay is very romantic in my opinion.”

Regarding personal relation to the individuals: “It's partially because of being the weird neurodivergent queer kid. People think they're weird, their relationship is wrong, or something like that. Kinda hits a little too close to home.” says user @cannibalhellhound. The community in general seems to relate deeply to the outcast nature of Eddie and Venom, a point that comes through as well in discussions of the characters’ presentation and gender, as well as their “loser” status. Symbiotic-slime described a sense of connection to the devil-may-care attitude the symbiote takes with their pronouns and appearance, and user @just-anti-heros-things states succinctly, “Together they make a whole idiot who can fight battles and save the world. Or just fuck around and find out.”

A handful of aspec (asexual spectrum) fans even described connecting with the alien nature of their relationship, with user @bridoesotherjunk saying quote, “They’re not putting on a performance to please anyone- they’re just… them. And they love each other for it! That’s what I want for myself,” and @shiningstardan comparing the relationship to their own experiences with attraction towards other people.

No matter the sentiment, most fans agree that despite being outlandish and extraterrestrial, Venom and Eddie have a character more grounded than many an idealized hero in the Marvel universe. From holding hands in a movie theater to raising a child together, the two are never alone, and fans crave that proximity.

Discussion

While not a universally beloved franchise on its own, Venom has achieved cult status among a number of internet users for its raw, vulnerable, and often camp portrayal of a complicated relationship between two flawed characters. It's a fanbase that breeds creativity, exploration, and catharsis through the fantasy of a love foretold in stars. A place to make art, write fanfiction, and bond with other outcasts.

References

Kaminski, L., Halsted, T., Koblish, S., Lopez, K., & Smith, T. (1996). Venom, the hunger (Vol. 1–4). Published by Marvel Comics.

Lee, S., Ditko, S., Yanchus, A., Rosen, S., Simek, A., & Lord, P. (1988). Marvel masterworks presents the amazing spider-man: Reprinting the amazing spider-man, nos. 11-20. Marvel Comics.

Ryan, M. (2021, September 27). Andy Serkis on eddie and Venom’s “Love affair” in the new Venom sequel. UPROXX. https://uproxx.com/movies/andy-serkis-venom-let-there-be-carnage-eddie-venom-love-affair/

U.S. National Library of Medicine. (n.d.). Phenethylamine. National Center for Biotechnology Information. PubChem Compound Database. https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Phenethylamine

Pak, G., Nocenti, A., Waid, M., Lapham, D., Lapham, M., Aydin, A., James Monroe Iglehart, Kibblesmith, D., Percy, B., Claremont, C., Williams, L., Seeley, T., Brisson, E., North, R., Pierson, D., Sacks, E., & Emily Ryan Lerner. (2020). Tales Through The Marvel Universe. Marvel Entertainment.

#symbrock #venom #french toast rambles #my writing #veddie #writeblr #eddie brock #sincerely hope you enjoy!

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I don't read superhero comics (for the sake of my own mental health), but i need to dump some of the batshit insane things i've heard second-handedly over the years:

Symbiots aren't weak to fire because of some, like, physical reason. It just really triggers them.

Superman has used his laser vision to give someone a lobotomy at least once.

Batman has watched Sailor Moon.

Tony Stark gave Daredevil his sight back, only to take it away again immediately, just to be a dick.

The only reason Doctor Doom is still evil is because the Human Torch fucked his wife.

The Hulk is the reincarnation of the Devil

Apparently, Watchmen just. Coexists with the other DC stuff. Which is ludicrous.

Venom gaslit Eddie into thinking he had cancer. This ended up making Eddie more powerful.

Like half of Gotham knows Batman's identity because they checked Robin's adoption papers.

The Flash is faster than light, but one of his recurring villains is a normal guy, with normal reaction times, who has a freeze ray.

Writers keep repurposing those weird, goofy silver-age villains. And either make them complete jokes and beat the shit out of them, or make them fucking terrifying.

Supaidah-Man (i.e. that japanese tokusatsu Spider-Man show) wasn't a bootleg and is actually a canon alternate universe.

Batman canonically pissed himself during that one speech in Year One.

There are a bunch of shit-tier X-men with useless powers. Like the guy with invisible skin. Or the kid who can explode once and immediately die.

The Reverse Flash once travelled back in time just to kick kid Barry down a flight of stairs.

Cyclops' power isn't laser vision. Rather, his eyes are simply portals to the Punch Dimension.

The Joker became the ambassador of Iran in order to gain diplomatic immunity.

Green Lanterns are weak to the colour yellow (this one might have been a joke?).

There's pink kryptonite that turns you gay (this one HAS to be a joke).

#comics #marvel #dc comics #funny #comic books

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moonesaiky · 5 months ago

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An attempt to like Venom (2018) 🫀

⠀⠀⠀⠀Hi, I'm Moone, a desperate Venom Comics reader! I'm a huge fan of Symbrock, and Venom is one of my toughest hyperfixations!

⠀⠀Today I would like to share, with anyone who reads here, and people frustrated with Venom (2018), to try to like this comic, or at least accept it in some parts.

⠀⠀I confess, I've been anxious about Venom (2018) for a long time (which I read in full, of course), and like many, I'm a little angry at the damage that Donny Cates caused after Mike Costa's blessing, but come on, it's been years, let's learn seeing this comic as another one that wasn't so good.

⠀⠀"Okay Moone, how are you going to do this then?"

⠀⠀Let's review the comics and check out weak points and high points in this Venom (2018)/Donny Cate's Venom arc. ⠀⠀I will split the posts for Arcos, but they will all be reblogged in this order, don't worry.

⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀So... Let's go ╰(*°▽°*)╯

#Venom #Venom comics #venom (2018)#Donny cates #Symbrock #read the comics #please

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thevindicativevordan · 4 months ago

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Thoughts on the new announcements on absolute comics

Anonymous asked: Hello! How are you feeling? What do you think of the new creative teams DC announced for October?

Anonymous asked: So ! What are your thoughts on the All In initiative and the new creative teams for the existing books like Action ?

txtmasterblast asked: On a scale of 0 to 10, how much are you looking forward to the upcoming Absolute Universe line?

Thought I'd save this for SDCC since there are still some rumored books that are yet to be confirmed, but I can save my thoughts for when those are officially announced. Short version is that this is extremely exciting.

Dawn of DC was DC playing it safe, and they botched the initiative because of how they spammed low quality events like Knight Terrors. Now they're stepping up to the plate and trying to tap into the energy created by Marvel's Ultimate Universe and the Energon Universe. They're trying to take a big swing and hit a home run. After multiple attempts by Didio to create something like this, it's downright ironic that Snyder finally is the one to do it given the two of them clashed at the end of their tenures. Once again Snyder seems to be trying to infuse the DCU with the essence of Metal, and at least this version appears to revolve less around Batman. I won't lie, hearing Snyder name drop Doomsday Clock and talk about "Darkseid Energy" in the promo video made me cringe.

The success of Hickman's Ultimate Universe and the Energon Universe came because they broke free of the usual shared universe comic nonsense. The Maker is an evil Reed Richards who eliminated all the heroes who couldn't be turned in order to build his perfect world. Energon was a reboot with no prior knowledge required. Simple! If the Absolute Universe requires me to know about the "Metaverse", throw it the trash because it's doomed. If the first issues of these books are not able to be read standalone with zero prior knowledge required, it's going to fail. The All-In one shot should tell us why this universe exists, what the pitch is, but it needs to be free from the kind of esoteric meta commentary which has poisoned DC for the last decade or so. Darkseid meddles with an Earth in order to understand his foes better is an easy concept to grasp. Don't make it any more complicated than that.

Absolute Batman by Scott Snyder & Nick Dragotta - Least exciting of the bunch. Unless Snyder is going to radically change up his writing style, we know how his Bruce sounds. Even without the wealth Batman usually has, I expect this will feel very familiar. Since I've dropped all the other Bat books however, I plan on getting this and two others for my Bat fix. Snyder has teased that Scarecrow and Bane are the two Bat villains he wished he could've done more with during his first run. Scarecrow is my favorite Batman villain and the thugs in the ashcan look like thugs of his to me. I think this Batman will be juicing himself with Venom, explains why he's huge, which is a much better justification for why Bane seeks this Batman out than anything they've come up with elsewhere. That logo sucks but I assume it's because this Batman has to make use with whatever he can scavenge, maybe that is a literal bulletproof plate to guard his chest which he shaped to look like a Bat as best as he could.

Absolute Wonder Woman by Kelly Thompson & Hayden Sherman - Thompson was a fan of the Azz/Chiang New 52 Wondy up until the reveal about the Amazons being rapists. Between the reuse of the silver/red color combo for this Wondy's armor, and how she doesn't have access to Paradise Island or other Amazons, I'm getting very similar vibes. I was a fan of Azz's run even though I acknowledge he "broke" her in several ways, I'm up for a second stab at a Wondy like that with Thompson. Tattoos show Hecate's symbol from Historia, perhaps this Wondy got her powers from Hecate only? My theory is Hippolyta went with her Bana sisters to war, and was never Queen of Themyscira. When she had Diana then, it was in Man's World. If this is dark urban fantasy Wondy, that would make for a good contrast with King's current political thriller run.

Absolute Superman by Jason Aaron & Rafa Sandoval - Bizarro arc was great, Sandoval is one of the best artists in DC's roster, I'm all in (hehe). No Fortress is a shame but since Bats and Wondy don't have their bases either I accept it. No family and no home is particularly intriguing. Seen a lot of speculation about what that entails, from this Superman being raised in an orphanage like the Action #1 origin, to Kal being sent from Krypton when he was old enough to remember it. If it's the latter then Absolute Kara will likely be dead, since she would overlap too much with this Superman. I love the design, grey suit with Morrison's first All-Star shield that Quietly only drew for one panel is a peak look. Hairstyle reminds me of Corenswet's "Clark" hair only longer, also reminds me of Anakin/Luke Skywalker which might be exactly the intention. His "cape" appears to be made of solar energy, perhaps this Superman has trouble controlling his powers? His solar battery biology might work differently here, with him "leaking". Or perhaps he even has a different powerset entirely? Seems like he can channel power into his arms/fists, if we get heat/ice fists instead of vision/breath, that would be the kind of silliness I love. Don't think this Superman will be paired with Lois, which frankly is a good thing. All the other major Superman projects focus on the Clois romance, for this to stand out I believe Absolute Superman needs to be dating other people. Since he seems to be a drifter, Aaron might eventually have him travel to other planets, where we could get Maxima or someone entirely new.

Other books have leaked and are probably right considering Bleeding Cool accurately called the Trinity, but I'll wait until they get revealed officially - likely at SDCC - before giving my thoughts.

For the mainline universe:

Justice League - Superman is apparently building a new JL that will be going after Darkseid and reshaping the cosmic hierarchy of the DCU. If DC had any brains left in their collective heads they would give this book to PKJ, but he's denied being on JL. Ram V still has a book to announce, maybe it's him? I would've said Waid but without Mora I don't think he'd take the job. Aaron is a possibility albeit not one I'd want. Seen some people say Lemire, and he did write the JL crossover with his Black Hammer verse. Please let it not be Taylor.

Superman - Mora joining the book took me by surprise, that is sure to have generated major fuming from certain corners. Doomsday arc is going to be a joy to look at

Action Comics - Waid and Henry are finally announced. Action going weekly was unexpected however. Only question I have is, does this mean Waid is staying on past that one arc? Not clear but since he will have more issues that the previous three Superstars I would assume so. Bitter as I am over PKJ getting kicked off before he could tell the Aethyr story he was building up to, Waid bringing in Morrison's Phantom King does make me happy.

Detective Comics - Taylor taking over made me breathe a sigh of relief. For now he remains quarantined to the Batbooks and Elseworlds.

Nightwing - Watters and Soy are going to finally give us the epic run Nightwing deserves. Watters deserves to be a "big writer" and with any luck this will be what elevates him to that level.

Batman & Robin - Damnit PKJ, you really going to make me read a mainline Bat book? Fine but you better continue the Olgrun plotline through this somehow. In all seriousness with Zdarsky and Taylor being on the other books I expect this will be the best mainline Batman book on the stands. Every previous time PKJ has written Batman has been enjoyable, and I trust him of all writers to do something different with Batman. Let this be the book that gets the general DC audience to take notice of how good he's been elsewhere.

Titans - Nah.

Green Arrow - Wish Montos luck, he deserves to be one of DC's A-List artists, but not interested in Green Arrow.

Exciting shake-ups are on the way, going to have to start trimming my pull again. Anything that doesn't wow me is getting dropped because I need the cash for all those Absolute books, which appear to be stacked creatively.

#dc comics #absolute dc #absolute batman #absolute superman #absolute wonder woman #dc all in

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Venom: Lethal Protector no.1 • cover art by Alex Ross [2023]

#Venom: Lethal Protector no.1 #Alex Ross #Night Flight Comics #comic mail orders #NFComics #reading #comic books

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Batman: Bellicosity

The third Batman story by comic book fan, writer and director Kevin Smith (Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy, Dogma, Jay and Silent Bob, Tusk, etc) comic book credits as writer (Spider-Man, Daredevil, The Bionic Man, Green Hornet, Green Arrow and many other titles based off his films) and Walt Flanngian artist and actor (actor in Comic Book Men, Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy and Dogma) artist on War of the Undead, Karney, Cryptozoic Man, along with Batman Cacophony and The Widening Gyre.

For more context of how this story takes place. I’m going to talk about the prime villain in question. The mysterious and deadly masked serial killer, Onomatopoeia and the deeds he has done.

SPOILER ALERT FROM THIS POINT ONWARD. IF YOU HAVEN'T READ THESE COMICS YET, GO TO YOUR LOCAL STORE AND PICK THEM UP IF YOU ARE INTERESTED.

Green Arrow: Sounds of Violence

Onomatopoeia appeared in Smith’s run of Green Arrow in the Sounds of Violence story arc. As Queen was adjusting back to his life and reigniting his romance with Dinah Lance aka the Black Canary.

The first on page victim is the female vigilante Virago. Using her grappling gun, swinging from building to building. Onomatopoeia shot her while she was in mid-air. Begging for help, Onomatopoeia executes her.

Later on, he murders the wife of vigilante known as Buckeye. Coming in through a skylight, talking to wife. Believing that she was just in the bathroom. But revealing her strung up and killed. With Onomatopoeia sitting on the toilet waiting for him.

Showing that Onomatopoeia is willing to kill the loved ones of vigilantes as well. Ending Buckeye’s career and his life with a bullet to the head.

His next target lead him to Star City. Where Onomatopoeia goes after the Green Arrow duo of Oliver Queen and his son Connor Hawke. Luring Connor away from his father, Onomatopoeia kills a civilian and corners Connor. Swinging an axe at Hawke, dodge and breaking the weapon until Onomatopoeia fatality wound Connor with a gunshot.

Oliver carries his dying son to the hospital where they perform an emergency surgery on Connor. Having Oliver assist by giving his son a blood transfusion. Meanwhile, Onomatopoeia kills an orderly to infiltrate the hospital and enters the surgical floor where Connor’s surgery was taken. Onomatopoeia was caught off guard by Dinah Lance aka Black Canary who used her Canary Cry against the killer. Giving Oliver Queen enough time to get himself together after the blood transfusion and wound Onomatopoeia. Drawing back on his bow and orders the assailant to open his mouth. Saying if Connor dies, he dies as well. The doctors operation on Connor, as Oliver and Onomatopoeia having a stand off. After the success of the surgery, Oliver fights off the masked killer, leading to on the rooftops. Where Onomatopoeia falls after being ridden fill of arrows.

When Oliver checks on the killer, his body was no where to be found.

Batman: Cacophony

In this three issue limited series. Deadshot broke into Arkham Asylum to kill the Joker. Who ended up being saved by Onomatopoeia. After beating Deadshot, Onomatopoeia helps Joker escape from Arkham. After Batman interrogates Deadshot, he looks up the file he created on Onomatopoeia. Showing his confirmed kills of Virago and Buckeye. As well as his failed attempt to end Green Arrows Oliver Queen and Connor Hawke.

As the Joker rampages throughout Gotham, causing a turf war with the delusional Maxie Zeus. After learning that Maxie was making drugs using Joker Venom. He used the opportunity to lure out both Joker and Onomatopoeia. After keeping Batman on the ropes, Onomatopoeia stabs the Joker and flees the scene after fighting Batman some more. Arriving on the rooftop, Commissioner Jim Gordon pleas with Batman to let the Joker die. Ending the cycle of pain and chaos he has deliver to their lives Killing Jason Todd and paralyzing Barbara Gordon. Batman refusing to go down that path and saves the Joker.

At the end credits of the third issue. We see a man returning home from a trip and greeted by his family. The man enters his den and revels a secret shelf behind his bookshelf. Showing a large trophy case with clear glass cover certain items with plaques engrave on the bases.

As well as pulling out his torn mask. The family man was Onomatopoeia. Each trophy was a masked powerless vigilante his has killed. Trophies include Virago and Buckeye. Along with numerous of other powerless vigilantes such as: Lady Justice, Sky Rider, The Ritz, Brother Black, The Strom (undetermined on full name), and Phantom Jockey.

In the trade paperback edition, additional heroes were shown in Smith’s script, that wasn’t shown on page, such as The Strobe, Brawler, Washingtonian, Bible Belt, The Ringer.

Smith’s script revealed DC Heroes that didn’t make the page, such as Steel (John Henry Irons), Green Arrow I (Oliver Queen), Black Canary (Dinah Lance), and Blue Beetle (Ted Kord).

Revealing on the page that Green Arrow II, Connor Hawke and Batman has cases prepared for next time.

Batman: The Widening Gyre

Taking place a few years after the events from Cacophony. Batman recalls his past adventures with Dick Grayson AKA Nightwing FKA Robin. Flashbacks include adventures with the Teen Titans and The Outsiders. Facing numerous of enemies such as Baron Bedlam, Baron Blitzkrieg, Atomic Skull and the Toyman. Later Batman heard about strange events within the grounds of Arkham Asylum. Poison Ivy spread her vines throughout the asylum grounds and Etrigan the Demon was ravenous and hunger for human flesh, almost beating Batman to death. Until he was saved by a mysterious man with a goat mask. Etrigan went back to normal and Batman limbs out of there in one piece. The following days Bruce Wayne had a blast from the past as his old flame, Silver St. Cloud was back in Gotham as they rekindle their relationship.

At one point, Batman attempts to detain the vicious cannibalistic supervillain Cornelius Stirk. Captured by the killer, Batman was rescued by Tim Drake AKA Robin and apprehended Stirk .

During that time, Batman comes across the mysterious new vigilante Baphomet. Wearing a wooden goat mask and armed with a old style crossbow. Together, the two took on multiple villains such as Black Spider, Calander Man, Crazy Quilt, Mr. Freeze Deadshot and The Joker. Baphomet ends ups casually unmasking in front of Batman.

During that period, Catwoman proceeded to flirt with Batman, wearing old outfits from the Golden Age era and from 1966 tv show to her zip up catsuit with goggles.

While on vacations with Silver, Robin patrolled the rooftops of Gotham with the aid of Baphomet. Shocked on Baphomet revealing his identify to Robin on a rooftop lunch. Batman is tempted to bring him into the Batfamily. Tracking him back home, weeping as he told Batman that he lost his brother to masked crime and wanted to do something.

One day, Batman took Silver St. Cloud to the Fortress of Solitude jump pad takes them to the JLA’s Watchtower. Where he proposals to Silver and she said yes. Later that night, Batman stops Alfred from taking Silver home, yanking her hair thinking she was Dr. Ivo’s android. Saying that he’ll never be normal and they embrace each other.

One night after the engagement, Batman and Baphomet caught Deadshot attacking Catwoman. She reveals that she hired Deadshot to lure Batman out. He reveals about his engagement to Silver St. Cloud. She yells and slaps Batman, saying she humiliated herself by wearing her old costumes to seduce him with and escapes.

On one fateful night, Batman was accompanied by Baphomet to Arkham Asylum to take Calendar Man in. Where Baphomet and the Joker glared at each other, as the Joker smiles in silence. Batman drive the Batmobile drives away with Baphomet in the passenger seat. Leading him to the Batcave, where Batman reveals his identify to Baphomet as Bruce Wayne and introduces Silver St. Cloud to him. Trusting Baphomet with a his most trusted secret. Once Bruce places his utility belt on a table, talking about breakfast. The sound giving a “Ka-Klak” with the same noise being repeated behind him, “Ka-Klak”. Bruce fears the worse and was shocked at what he had witnessed.

The man that Batman trusted and fought along side him Baphomet, donned a different mask. The mask of hero killer Onomatopoeia. His hand covering Silver St. Cloud’s mouth as he slits her throat with a combat knife.

End of The Widening Gyre.

The Future of Bellicosity:

Smith ended the series at a shocking cliffhanger. Leaving all readers in suspense on what would happen next. The series ended in 2010. Kevin Smith teases images of the third part of this “Elseworlds” story.

Knowing the cast that might be included in the next story and mostly likely the final part of this story, Bellicosity. Alfred Pennyworth, James “Jim” Gordon, Richard “Dick” Grayson FKA Robin AKA Nightwing, Timothy “Tim” Drake aka Robin, Barbara “Babs” Gordon FKA Batgirl AKA Oracle. Along with random villains in Batman’s rogues gallery and superhero allies such as Green Arrow (Oliver Queen and Connor Hawke) Black Canary, Superman, Wonder Woman and other JLA members.

Onomatopoeias’ trophy room would be possibly be introduced early on, seeing possible future targets. Not knowing if Nightwing and Robin would be targets on Onomatopoeia’s trophy case. Unconfirmed if Jason Todd would make his return as Red Hood at this point or if the Batgirl mantle was taken up by either Cassandra Cain or Stephanie Brown.

As Batman and the known Batfamily members would investigates Onomatopoeias’ background for any inkling of the truth he told Batman. Maybe using the Malone Crime family name to ransack his home.

There’s also the possibly of Silver St. Cloud succumbing to her injuries in the Batcave and Alfred attempting to subdue Onomatopoeia or getting injured as well.

This would definitely affect Batman's trust issues with other heroes who knows his secret. Making him judge and question everything as he hunts down Onomatopoeia and make him pay.

Making him cross the line and break his oath not to kill.

Only time will tell if Kevin Smith will return to finish what he started all those years ago.

Kevin Smith latest film is The 4:30 movie. With other films such as Moose Jaws, Twilight of the Mallrats and Tusks are planned for the future. Smith also has released two volumes of Quick Stops comics based on his film series being published by Dark Horse Comics.

Walt Flannigan's return to finish what he started with his friend is up in the air. As Flannigan works as a co-host on the podcast Tell'em Steve Dave.

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where should i start reading your Rain World stuff about your OCs and such?

i don't really have any order in it so just jumpin into the oc tag n readin thru it would do, i guess?? though yeah,, tumblr isn't nice with the tags i won't lie, so i'mma compile some stuff for ya

there Are something of intro posts for the characters, though they've evolved a lot over time (originally the Anemoi Iterators were just not a thing, the only one i was meant to have was Fish with Zephyr serving only as a little neat backstory for one of the scugs connected to Fish. so Zeph especially has had a lot of evolution done to her character)

here are the posts: • Intro for Fish Inside a Birdcage, the Seafarer, the Tinkerer and the rest of their little family (x) (out of this Fish and Tinktink are most important n developed, with Seafarer bein a char i wanna work on a bit at some point) • Intro for Murder of Crows (she's a bg character for Moon's group, I rarely actually do stuff with her), Abet Zephyr, the Pan Wielder and few of the Scavs living in Fish's facilities (x) (this is also where The Children of Eo group is first mentioned) • Intro for the rest of Anemoi Iterators of The Children of Eo group, voice claims (Zephyr's is outdated) and the first look at world map, which i'm updating for myself as i'm workin on this stuff and will repost at some point so y'all can see the updates too (x) • List of Iterator City names (x) • Voice claim for Three Sparrows and updated one for Zephyr (x) • Spotto™ Ancients design reference post (x) • -sigh- "Who's Beppi?" (x) (here's him as a baby) • quick off the string in Ancient times AU designs for Euros 'n Boreas (x) • Sparrows' quickly put together art ref (proper one pending) (x)

Three Sparrows' lore is scattered basically all over over the place n she doesn't have a proper intro post yet

Some direct links for the convenience: • How the Great Cycle works in the Serotonin Take (a little add-on to it)

• Iterator anatomy lesson (mostly about the puppets) • Iterator anatomy lesson: detailing of the Hivemind that makes them up • Iterator anatomy lesson: personality development • Rambling about worldbuilding, mostly the Folk Gods (quite disorganized, explains The Saint though) • Ancients' hand mutilation in the name of the Global Religion • Ancients' mask culture • Ancients and their feeding face tentacles • Ancients' "hair" • Ancients and water habitats • Ancients, their venom and Also The Cleaning Slugs • Ancients' gills and some stuff with breathing • Three Sparrows character notes • Little drabble thing for Three Sparrows, though some things might not hold up • "Has Sparrows made any connections while in school?" • Three Sparrows and her slugcat reincarnation (lil continuations of it x, x) • "The Eo Iterators get off the string, who dies who thrives?" (not canon, except the Haboob comic at the beginning) • Zephyr and Moon swap as a characterization exercise that got a lil outta hand (not canon, but neat either way) • A continuation of the above, with Looks to the Moon in the Eo group + some talking about Abet Zephyr as a person • Fooling around with the concept of Zephyr knowing Pebbles, but then big explanation of Mission Self-preservation aka the biggest thing happening in the OC lore • "Can Euros run Doom?" • How did Caper of Euros and Three Sparrows get together romantically • Caper of Euros' priorities the lil comic • "What is Euros like during a Hivemind unsync?" + Three Sparrows the treasured component • Euros and Sparrows married?? • Caper of Euros' first case of the Rot • post 1st Rot reconcilation between the lovebirds • "Did Euros' entire Lab have to be rebuilt after the eradication of the 1st Rot?" • Sparrows' deathbed • Sparrows' Memory Crypt beef (x)• "Who's older? Notos or Haboob?" + Euros 'n Haboob's relationship • Gushing about the ending of the playlist for the group (link to the playlist itself here) • some Tinkerer and the Scavs fooling around content • tiny Seafarer post • what happened between Seafarer and Artificer? why were they separated?

(new text block cuz apparently tumblr has a character limit for that) • Iterator anatomy lesson: the antennas • Iterator anatomy lesson: sexuality and desire for pleasure • Ancients' blood • Ancients' skin texture • "How are Ancient's born?" • "Did Ancients' ancestors have even bigger teeth?" • Farmer Ancients weaponry and tools + Sparrows' encounter with a Red Centipede • "How'd Zephyr end up like that?" • "What are some of Zephyr's happiest memories?" • "Did any other continent have a bootleg Iterator situation like Zephyr?" • What was young Boreas like • Boreas, his batflies and what Desaevio was like • "Very beautiful, very powerful." Boreas animatic made by me sister • Angry Boreas? Let's try to fix him with a controlled shock • Filler Iterators stuff, especially introduction of Orion's Pathway • designing filler stuff a lil: NAE, Gem, high circle Sparrows outfit, first look at the Preacher, Expiation and Spore • Orion's helmet and RW constellations • some lore stuff for Orion • Orion's General • more on the Polar War • Fish and Pigeon Drones • Fish Inside a Birdcage Daycare for scav kits • "What is stored on Caper of Euros' puppet chamber pearls?" • How Boreas and Zephyr took Euros' romantic relationship with Sparrows the comic • Sparrows' daily routine • "Has Sparrows ever seen Euros without his faceplate?" • Iterator baby photos and first appearance of Sparrows' mom, Inkling of an Inbound Daybreak • "Does Sparrows hide her tail in her high circle outfit?" • Movement within an Iterator • "How does it feel like to respawn?"/Sparrows' first death described a little • How did that wedding of Euros n Sparrows' looked • "Does the Rot smell bad?" • "How did Boreas bail Sparrows out of getting fired after the 1st Rot case?" • Grandmama Sparrows • some stuff on Euros' 3rd Mechanic • Euros and his relationship to his memories of Sparrows • "Why do Biting Notos' colony worships teeth and the mouth?" • "Did Notos know something was wrong with its puppet?" • "What does Orion think about Notos' puppet design?" • Biting Notos' sins against its own kind • Inhale in Haboob colony (and herself) notes and ideas • some things on the relationship between Euros 'n Haboob • the Anemoi + Fish as slugcats • Fate of Boreas' Blessing in Saint Time • Ascending Biting Notos comic

#Spot says stuff #rw #oc tag #honestly n actually imma use this post as a sort of navigator thingy #this is mostly specifically the oc stuff. things that are mostly or only with the canon iterators i haven't put in here. for that browsing-#-my rain world tag should be more than enough

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