#tw: mention of homophobia and racism

[boneywones]

its genuinely fucking baffling at how prevalent homophobia, transphobia, ableism and racism is in the utmv fandom

the amount of utmv people i see say the most racist shit under posts showing human sans designs people made that dont fit their criteria of “white, short hair, skinny and buff cis dude” is??? literally?? what??? seeing the comments under fishee’s human sans posts is one prime example.

the only thing that has slightly gotten better in the past years were its homophobia and ableism, but its still there. homophobia as “stop making everything shipping/gay!!!” “they’re only friends” and ableism as demonising or infantilising ink. “ink has a lack of empathy so he must be evil!!!! he doesn’t care about his friends at all!!!!” or “ink did nothing wrong, hes just a baby, just a little guy” OR just basic ableism about peoples head-cannons that revolve around mental illness, physical illness, etc (and before you say “i havent seen that!” i literally got laughed at in a hc channel not too long ago for saying “chronically ill geno and classic, they use mobility aids”)

now onto the rampant transphobia, its gotten worse. people just genuinely cant grasp that jakei themselves said that cross is trans-coded. actively denying and saying the post itself is fake even though jakei had most likely gotten backlash from transphobic bigots that try and dictate how jakei should make their characters which ensued them deleting said post. if you’re a person whos doing exactly that, you ARE the problem. let jakei have their well needed break ffs

[terfism-unmasked]

it's interesting how someone was literally pointing out how her "feminism" is entirely performative and even at that it relies on utopian and impossible ideals so it's just a pretense for her to do absolutely nothing to actually help people and somehow label it feminism regardless and her response was "yaassss!". presented without comment

[thee-radio-host-is-a-kookaburra]

Remember: white supremacy, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, antisemitism, nazi ideology, terf ideology, etc. isn’t “just another view”. It’s hate. It’s violence. You do not have to listen to hate and violence. Nobody should listen to hate and violence.

You shouldn’t have a debate over your own human rights.

[queerbauten]

Western Joost fans when the Europapa Guy doesn't hate The Bad Europeans™ (Russians):

[a-sip-of-milo]

"Reverse racism/heterophobia/cisphobia is a thing nowadays"

Meanwhile, racism, transphobia and homophobia has always been a thing. That's the difference.

[pinkpinkmermayyy]

tw for fatphobia, racism, slurs, sexual harassment, death threats, homophobia, and harassment in general. This is extremely disgusting and discretion is advised. I can’t believe this troll had the audacity to say any of this

them:

also them:

hm. I wonder why.

just block and report this person in hopes that they can get removed from tumblr please

Also support the original cars blogs they’re reblogging from and spread some positivity to them

(Also, these might be a bit difficult to discern from which is the actual post and which is the screenshots, and I apologize for that)

[fragiledate]

Le destin et un fil rouge (click for qualité svp)

[squaloropera]

alright, I was originally gonna make this as a comic but I’m really busy so I can’t manage that. I swear, this is my last anti-fujoshi post and then we’ll be back to our regularly scheduled inane nonsense.

firstly, I’ve seen a lot of people saying that they dislike the term ‘fujoshi’ to describe these people because of its misogynistic origins. I find this to be reasonable, so I will be referring to them as maiali pervertiti instead. It’s Italian! Hope y’all like it xx That out of the way, let’s begin.

I have put real, genuine, actual research into this. I scoured maiali pervertiti blogs to find their arguments, their mindsets, their justifications. As far as I could find, there are four main arguments. These being the following: ‘It’s just fiction, not reality’, ‘Hating us is misogynistic’ ‘hating us is transphobic/homophobic’ and ‘hating us is racist’. I will be unpacking each of these, looking at them from both perspectives, and explaining why exactly they’re flawed perspectives. Hopefully, a properly researched and informed take on this will help to clear the waters.

Let’s start with the first take. The ever-quoted ‘it’s just fiction, not reality’. This is an argument you’ll find in a lot of places, mostly in any place which is in support of questionable things being treated as erotic. Pro ships and pro-shippers also love to tote this. Now, on its surface this argument seems logical. However it starts to fall apart when you think about it critically. When we consider how the brain works, you’ll see what I mean. To be concise, the human mind slowly accepts things the more it’s exposed to justifications for them, regardless of how reasonable those justifications are. It associates a bad thing with ‘but nevermind, it’s fine’ and you stop feeling shame or regret over time. This is why you’ll often see lolicons say downright atrocious things about child characters- they’ve justified it for so long that they don’t see a problem with it.

Now, on the ‘it doesn’t affect reality’ claim, let’s look at other groups for this. Think about how many studies have been done saying that men who watch rape porn are more likely to become rapists. Think of all the people raised on the ‘I can fix him’ mentality on tv growing up to get in bad relationships or romanticise abuse under the idea that they can make an abuser better by loving him. It’s no secret of society that, actually, fiction does affect reality. The most concise, albeit silly way I’ve heard it put was ‘But you’re still jacking off to it. It’s affecting your dick and balls’. And I think that sums it up.

Next, let’s look at the ‘If you hate us you’re misogynistic’ claim. The mentality behind this claim is that women in Japan were referred to as ‘rotten girl’ for liking yaoi and bl, and to continue that rhetoric of not liking them is the continuation of misogyny. Again, this is a take that seems logical right up until you pick it apart. First we have to understand that the reason these men were calling these women rotten was because they disapproved of them exploring their sexuality and reading erotic content at all. They don’t hate women for reading gay porn, they hate women for reading porn period. The gay people criticising maiali pervertiti on tumblr aren’t hating them for the same reason. We don’t hate you for reading porn, read all the porn you’d like, we just want you to stop fetishising us. The difference is in the context; the men who were shaming Japanese women were shaming them for exploring their sexualities, were shaming you for treating an entire minority of people like they’re a porn category and for spreading gross, abusive content of mlm because you think it’s hot. It’s also important to note that Japanese women mostly started reading yaoi and bl because of the culture toward female sexuality in Japan. They couldn’t read erotica of straight couples, or they’d be seen as perverts. They couldn’t read wlw erotica, or they’d be seen as lesbians and shamed. Their only option for exploring their sexuality became mlm erotica. You, Lindsey from California, do not share this same issue.

Next we have the ever-irritating ‘If you hate us, you’re a transphobe’ argument.

*deep, deep sigh*

stay with me, fellow trans achillians. We can get through this. This argument is based in the idea that transmascs, specifically mlm transmascs, might read yaoi to explore their genders through sexual content. Unfortunately, exploring your gender through erotica and having a fetish are two different things. I personally did explore my gender through gay sexual content. Mostly fanfiction and mental fantasy, but with the odd fanart or comic sprinkled in there for flavour. The difference is that I never had a fetish for it. Most maiali pervertiti seem to argue with a very subtle straw man by implying that reading mlm content is the same as reading the gross rape porn yaoi that ‘fujoshi’ spaces are steeped in. This is not the case- there is a clear divide. I personally consumed actual, healthy content of gay sex. To go further with this argument, I actually think it’s actively harmful to perpetuate the idea that young trans people struggling with their gender should be exploring it through the things that are spread in fujoshi spaces. I’ve read some pf this stuff mostly by accident or against my will and that shit should not be associated in a young trans person’s mind with their gender. It isn’t safe.

Next we have ‘it’s homophobic to hate us’ which is definitely. A take. The rhetoric here is that by hating on the fetishisation consumption of yaoi, you’re really just hating gay men.

this is just… can I drop the nuance voice here? It’s bullshit. It’s gross bullshit. Gross, steaming, cowpat bullshit. Okay, nuance voice back up, let’s explore. maiali pervertiti, please understand that it’s mostly gay people who don’t like you. This is, again, a straw man argument. They’re trying to yell homophobia so they can ignore the real criticisms. The problem isn’t the homosexuality, my dear sweet perverted little fucking weirdos, it’s the rape porn and incest and abuse. Just read normal fucking mlm content I’m begging you.

Finally, we have the ‘it’s racist to hate us’ argument. This is an example of what I like to call ‘the firemen diversion’. This name comes from an example where a person might take the statistic of their being higher fatality risk the more firemen walk into a burning building, and then using it as an argument to suggest that it’s dangerous to call the fire brigade if there’s a fire. There’s a tiny nugget of reasonable argument in there, but it’s backing up a complete and utter bullshit lie.

This is basically what this argument is. The idea here is that the term ‘fujoshi’ was originally a reclaimed slur, and that westerners are changing it to degrade women again and are therefore misunderstanding the actual language behind it.

Now, this is based in a little bit of truth. Westerners do, in all fairness, misunderstand the term. I can’t speak for the reclamation of the slur, considering how I don’t know if that’s true, but I do know that the way it’s used has been quite incorrect a lot of the time. That’s the true bit. The rest of the argument, however, is nonsensical. While yes, some people misunderstand the word ‘fujoshi’, it doesn’t mean that the criticism of the culture (especially the culture in the western world) is racist. Please, don’t cry racism when you see people asking not to be fetishised. You will end up making the actual movement against anti-Asian hate crimes (which have increased in recent years, need I remind you) look less credible. Once again, I am asking allies to shut the fuck up talking for the minorities they claim to represent while being batshit insane x

TL;DR: no, it is not misogynistic, racist, transphobic or homophobic when gay people tell you to stop fetishising us. Stop arguing straw men and just take accountability.

Also, maiali pervertiti are the female equivalent of straight men who watch lesbian porn. But somehow worse. That’s all, have a good day.

[nataliaheels]

Tumblr please do your thing <3 This person has harassed me and my friends like this since February. We’ve all blocked them more than 10 times. They’ve called us every slur in the book. They keep making new accounts. They usually have the word spooky or goth in their user and they like to hang out on tumblr live. Thanks for reading pls comment any information you have on this person

[musical-chick-13]

Having principles that you believe apply to every single person without question means that you sure do risk others thinking you're defending reprehensible people, huh.

[tornrose24]

–PLEASE READ BEFORE READING CHAPTER–

As light-hearted as this chapter starts out, this is now where the story’s trigger warnings (as you might have seen in the tags) are going to start kicking in. Also, there’s an additional trigger warning for the racist, anti-lgbtq ghost later in this chapter.

[review-anon]

Since you just talked about the Tetro secrets maybe you can tackle the Despair Time secrets in the same way. (I think those are the only two casts that revealed every student's secret, but I could be wrong.)

You are right that Despair Time is the only other Danganronpa title which has revealed everyone's secrets aside from Tetro Pink, as Trigger Happy Havoc never revealed what the other students got. I have some good ideas on what some of the other secrets could be based on stuff we find out later in the game and things we learn from future Danganronpa material, but others are still very much an enigma.

This gets looonnnng so under the cut.

Levi is a Murderer and he holds no remorse

Levi admits he killed someone but the reason he didn't bring it up eariler was because he didn't know who it was referring to as it could be when he killed his father or when he killed two guys looking to start trouble with him. He also talks this in a detached way like he was talking about the weather.

As such many have been quick to label Levi as a sociopath and a realistic portrayal as that since contray to most media depections, Levi isn't a raging lunatic who enjoys killing others, he's someone who wants to be a good person and get along with the others, but because he lacks the innate understanding what a good person is, he struggles with connecting to others. He has no attachments and openly admits he never cared for Ace, which seemed to hurt the jockey greatly. This is more inline with real life sociopaths, people trying to get by and be productive members of society, but they struggle because they don't possess empathy or moral understanding, or rather its not instinctive to them so they have to learn it via observation.

However I do believe Levi does have some degree of empathy, he just cannot see it as such as he did save Teruko from the gatling gun, so while I think he still has a lot to learn, I don't see Levi as a bad person. As always context is key and learning how detached Levi is makes him more interesting as a person.

Whit's mother is dead and he always omits the truth

Whit doesn't really talk about his personal life all that much so we don't have much to go off, something I'm sure either future FTEs or Chapter 3 could help to provide, but its clear he's very attached to his mother and might be in denial that she is dead.

I also have a good idea how Whit's mother died because during the Chapter 2 Class Trial Whit seems to have a suspiciously good amount of knowledge on hanging. While I'm all for other people then the usual trial point-getters contributing to the Class Trials, the fact Whit knows so much how hanging works, makes me believe his mother unsubscribed from life and she decided to hang herself while doing so. If Whit got home one day and saw his beloved mother hanging there, it might have caused some psychological effects and maybe he pretends she isn't dead because its easier for him to cope that way.

Again since we don't know what Whit's mother was going through, we kinda need context on this matter but it feels like something that as the Charles and Whit friendship develops, could be touched upon.

David exists to manipulate others. To him, everyone else exists to be taken advantage of

And this is what made David the rival character as soon as his mask slipped and the true insanity behind him was revealed. Now I am still curious how they are gonna take his character in Chapter 3 given how he basically nuked his social status among the cast during Chapter 2's class trial, so him having to live with the consequences of that could be interesting.

I am curious what led him to believe this is how the world works, as people don't just wake up one day and decide to become manipulators. Or even if his sister is real. Sadly I doubt we will find the answers to that soon.

Charles's older brother died, but he doesn't remember him at all

When J revealed this secret to Charles, he was of course confused for obvious reasons as the fact he even had a older brother in the first place? This let him to believe he suffered from childhood amnesia, the idea that whatever happened to his older brother was so traumatic that his mind blocked out the memory for his own sake.

This could also tie into why he has such a fear of blood, as maybe he personally witnessed the death of his older brother, and that's what caused this fear of blood? Phobias after all, are often learnt behaviours from past experiences so if a young Charles saw the blood soaken corpse of his older brother, especially if they were quite close, it could be why his fear of blood is so strong. But this isn't something we will find out anytime soon.

Ace's body is falling apart, yet he refuses to eat.

As Veronika pointed out, jockeys often suffer from eating disorders due to their strict diets as their jobs often have a very strict weight requirement. Now its very hard to pin down what eating disorder Ace has, as there isn't enough evidence to pinpoint what eating disorder he has.

I do find it interesting Ace has a eating disorder when he is so scared of dying since starvation is one of the worst ways to go out. It does explain his aggressive behaviour as people with eating disorders are often very irritable and start fights with others so they can avoid eating. One sinister side effect is that your blood doesn't clot probably if you don't have enough nurients and Ace had a massive injury on him thanks to Nico...

Had Ace not killed Arei, I think he would have died naturally over the course of the next few days from that alone.

Arturo's younger sister killed herself because of him, and he should have never left her

Once again, context is everything and we don't know why Arturo decided to leave his sister. We know its a painful memory for him because when Eden reveals she has the secret, Arturo flips out and threatens her with death if she blabs about it to anyone. The only reason this threat didn't go through was because Arei heard the whole thing and stopped him.

Something tells me that maybe Arturo does feel some guilt over what happened with his little sister and he doesn't want to admit it. Again I can only speculate why he did what he did unless he fesses up the story himself. Given how loathed Arturo is both among the cast and the fans, it might serve as a way to redeem this scumbag doctor in the eyes of everyone.

Ever since Eden kissed a girl, she was afraid her sexuality would ruin her friendships

First thing's first, Eden is a lesbian, based.

Secondly I am curious why she's so much in the closet over it, my best guess is assuming Despair Time's America is the same as the present day one in terms of values, Eden lived in a conservative community where such actions would make her a social pariah. Or she has some very bigoted parents. Given how clockmaking is often seen as a deeply traditional skill, it makes me speculate that Eden might have a very traditional family growing up, one that wouldn't tolerate their daughter coming out as a lesbian.

And if she lived in a conservative community, she would worry if her friends think less of her if they know she's into girls. My advice? If they refuse to accept who you are, they don't deserve to be your friends and you are better off without them. Find people who love you for who you are, not bigots. Thankfully given how queer friendly the Despair Time cast is, she stands a good chance making good friends here.

Veronika only took on her talent to distract herself from her impulsive need to self harm herself for fun

While self harm is sadly a more common condition then you think, Veronika's need to self harm comes from more then her being angry at herself which is the most common reason. So why I do I think Veronika wants to harm herself? One word; simulation.

Maybe Veronika isn't very good with her emotions and hates the fact she cannot feel them, but regardless of your emotional state, pain is often something you can feel so maybe she hurts herself whenever she wants to feel something. This reminds me of Lemon from Beastars as due to his status as a carnivore-herbivore hybird because omnivores apperantely don't exist in this world, he cannot feel emotions so whenever he feels like he wants to have a emotion, he would often stab himself to feel the pain. There's also the fact he hates the spots from his abusive leopard mother so he would often get them covered by tattoos which he hires a backyard sloth tattoo artist who has actually killed his patients in the past due to how slow he puts them on, but being the masocist Lemon is, he enjoys that.

Then she discovered the horror genre and since fear is a primal reaction like pain is, this is probably what drew her to it, to the point she wanted to learn everything about it. Plus its far less painful for her then self harming is.

J hide her name and birthright to pretend she isn't the daughter of Maribella Rosales

This is literally the first secret we uncover as Arturo has it and being the celebitry simp he is, is amazed how he never noticed he was right next to the daughter of one the most popular actresses of all time, much to J's disgust.

Given what J has told us, it seems Maribella was a terrible mother as she would often use her kids to promote herself, and this probably why J became so tom boyish as a way to rebel against her mother. Being a special effects artist would be something she could easily learn due to being in Hollywood all the time, and since its a job in the background, she would be away from the limelight just like she prefers it.

Is it any wonder why in A Student Out of Time, Maribella and Emma hate each other?

Hu is quite the hopeless child, dying once wasn't enough so she tried to unalive herself three times

Everyone talks about Hu having depression due to the fact she tried to access the Afterlife Theater three time, and that its probably from Sinophobia that she had to endure growing up, this contrubtes to her Mother Hen personality and why she feels she needs to help everyone so she can feel like she means something.

But something many have forgot is the fact she "died once" this implied she was caught in a near death experience and the experience of living through it shattered her enough to want to kill herself. My best guess is that her family or someone close to her was killed in a accident she was caught up in but she lived while her loved one didn't. Or maybe she died in a sense she was clinically dead but the doctors were able to revive her.

Its another one we need context for and as such I'm sure Hu will at one point talk about it in the future.

Blackmail, rumours, lying, stealing, slander. Arei did everything she could to ruin her sisters' lives.

We get the full explanation for this one where Arei explains her two older sisters were complete bullies who tormented her day in and day out, and eventually Arei couldn't take it anymore and did actions she framed her sisters for and got them send to reform school.

However it seems she wants to be a good person despite all this and this drives a lot of her actions in Chapter 2, and she became Bubble's waifu. Which as we are soon to learn is the kiss of death as that meant Arei was gonna get killed.

Very tragic and no wonder people like Arei as the one Mean Girl who broke the cycle, and I am curious what her bonus video will be about.

Rose took on her talent to earn money for her family, but she's since put them into a livetime of debt

This is another one we get full context for as Teruko gets this secret and asks Rose about it. She explains that her family were dirt poor so by using her photographic memory, she could flawlessly copy paintings and sell them for a nice profit. But she got caught one day and was only bailed out by Duke Spurling who could write off all her debts as long as all paintings she makes are offically his.

The Spurlings are defitintely the most sus people here as its very likely they are the ones in charge of America's Hope's Peak Academy and have a lot of influence in the backstories for a few characters. I wouldn't write these guys off just yet. Still it sucks to be Rose and no wonder she doesn't take joy in painting anymore as anything she makes is worthless.

Min always treated the competition with ruthlessness to the point she poisoned someone

Now while its not confirmed this belonged to Min the fact nobody else claimed it, makes it seem like its her secret plus it fits with Min's backstory. We know the Ultimate Student was a social experiment by Hope's Peak Academy to see how they can push an entire generation of children, and this would encourge cutthroat behaviour. Poisoning, forging, other underhanded tactics would all be used to get ahead.

Especially as Min admits originally she wasn't gonna be involved until surprise, surprise, Duke Spurling offered to pay for her scholarship fees if she became the Ultimate Student and this could a main drive why Min of all people was more determined to be the Ultimate Student.

No one accepted the fact Nico was non binary, and they had to spend all their life being mocked by their family, their peers, literally everyone

And if you need anymore proof even though Despair Time is in the late 2100s, the socitial norms are the same as now, this is it as normally you would expect enbies to be as accepted as homosexuals are today, but turns out this is not the case. Once again, like with Eden I could pull the old "Nico came from a conservative background" card, but seeing how enbies are not very accepted among society still, it could be anywhere really.

Another more sinister idea I'm getting is that since megacorporations and rich people rebuild the world after the Tragedy, it could be that LGBTQ rights have regressed to be even worse then they are now, as most rich people are conservative in nature. The only reason they claim to support LGBTQ is because its not socially acceptable to be a bigot, and customers would vote with their wallets, but if they are in charge, they have no need to act all friendly and just be like they truly are. Thus Eden and Nico being so scared about exposing their sexualities could be a more deeply rooted fear then it seems. Doesn't explain why Ace and Whit, two other queers don't have the same issues, but maybe Ace is aggressive due to people being homophobic to him all the time and Whit can just laugh back at any bigots, removing any power they have.

It does warm my heart that everyone is very accepting of Nico once it comes out they are a enby, since while Ace does still bully Nico, he never misgenders them once. Everyone just calls Nico by their preferred pronouns and that's how it should be.

Xander blames himself for the death of his family and wished he died with them

Again this is one who's never confirmed but most assume this is Xander's. We know from his bonus video that Xander's family was wiped out in a plague caused by the Spurlings who got away scott-free which inspired Xander to become the Ultimate Rebel.

But this shows he has severe survivor's guilt from the whole thing. Maybe this why when the mastermind told him to kill Teruko he was so willing to do so as even if he was voted guilty and killed, he would be happy with that since it means he will be with his family again.

The Mastermind cannot pick a motive for Teruko since she has so many and the Killing Game is her fault

David claims this is Xander's but he's lying as its Teruko's 100%. This why I suspect the Mastermind, having lost Xander, decided to make David their next agent to try and kill Teruko off.

I have mentioned the main goal of Despair Time's Killing Game is to kill Teruko. Given her background this could be for a variety of reasons but maybe the mastermind was wronged by her luck and wants her removed. Its the reason why Ayumu was targeted for death in Re:Birth aftet all. Expect Teruko has the personality to match what having such chaotic powers would do to someone.

It will be very interesting to see the mastermind's motives for wanting Teruko dead and how David, who's obviously their latest pawn will handle such matters.

And that is my analysis of the Despair Time motives. As this is the only other full motives we know from a fanganronpa I've read, unless you guys want me to speculate what I believed the rest of Trigger Happy Havoc's motives were, this will be the last time I do this.

[cedar-sunshine]

Hey man I was thinking about that Really Cool Social Group/Totally Not A Cult that you've been telling me about. I'm kind of interested! I think I might join, can you remind me how all that stuff works?

of course!! (For context to others this relates to the cult in Star)

Prerequisite 1) be a hardcore extremist Christian who thinks all non-christians and queer people/poc/disabled people should die a violent death

Prerequisite 2) have been in the cult before the apocalypse happened, preferably born and raised in it but if you convert completely and give the church all of your belongings and money and give up your identity and individuality they might be chill with that

Prerequisite 3) be willing to violently murder anyone who disagrees with you/watch the priest violently murder anyone who disagrees with him/be violently murdered if the priest disagrees with you (or if you get sick)

Prerequisite 4) think chasing a couple traumatized trans guys around the wood with weapons is a really cool way to spend multiple years (god stuff yk)

Have fun!

(To be clear I don't think badly of Christians in general I'm just not in favor of organized religion in general if you don't think Christianity is the most likely religion of a religious apocalyptic cult please. Go touch some grass for me)

[just-antithings]

Do antis have any fucking idea how many people's parents, co-workers and especially fucking bosses are just straight-up homophobes and transphobes and racists and shit?

They want people to be hate crimed.

[hussyknee]

What the FUCK @staff???? You're platforming Qanon propaganda now???

THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE FORCING ON THE QUEER AND JEWISH COMMUNITY ON THIS SITE???? RACISM, ANTI-LGBT DOG WHISTLES AND BLOOD LIBEL???