#tudors placed the conversation in 1535 bcus it doesn't really add up in 1533...? at least i assume so
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There’s a scene in the Tudors where Anne and Henry get into a fight about his mistress and Henry reminds Anne that he can “strike you down as quickly i as raised you” did he actually say that to her? I remember reading that he would say that a lot to anyone who displeased him.
This one, right?
The report is from Chapuys (September 1533), since someone's asked I thought it might be interesting to break down in its entirety rather than the excerpt:
The King holding it certain by the report of his physicians and astrologers that the Lady would bear a son, has determined to hold rejoicings and solemn jousts to make up for (pour regor de) the shortcomings of the last, which were shameful and beggarly, and already some of the Lady's favorites have sent to Flanders to buy horses.
What does he mean by the shortcomings of the 'shameful and beggarly' last? I suppose it could be in reference to the jousts cancelled in 1516, but if he's referring to the celebrations for the last son in 1511, they were "the third most expensive spectacle of Henry's reign"; so it's an odd remark...
The King has taken from his treasures one of the richest and most triumphant beds (lictz) which was given for the ransom of a duke of Alençon. It was well for the Lady that it was delivered to her two months ago, for she would not have had it now ; because, being full of jealousy, and not without cause, she used some words to the King at which he was displeased, and told her that she must shut her eyes, and endure as well as more worthy persons (aussy bien que vailloient mieulx quelle), and that she ought to know that it was in his power to humble her again in a moment more than he had exalted her. By reason of which words there has been some grudge, and façon de faire, so that the King has been two or three days without speaking to her. No doubt these things are lovers' quarrels, to which we must not attach too great importance, yet many who know the King's disposition consider them a very favorable commencement for the recall of the Queen.
The remark about "she would not have the bed now" is Chapuys' commentary (added to the script for the scene linked above), the report about what Henry said begins after 'told her'.
There's other reports from + about this time (one from the same source as above, just slightly earlier) that are incompatible with this report, fwiw, so...make of that what you will.
#anon#and chapuys' earlier report is what corroborates a later one about august/september 1533 ; not this one...#tudors placed the conversation in 1535 bcus it doesn't really add up in 1533...? at least i assume so#even tho the report IS from 1533#or maybe it was 1534...#*on the show that is. where they placed it#there's no report of another mistress (which has to be what he's alluding to here? full of jealousy not without cause?)#until well into the next year so it's odd also that that sort of just...disappears from the scene#until september 1534.#the suggestion is (altho it's not explicit) that it was the same woman#'renevewed and increased the love he had for a very beautiful woman of the court'#but it doesn't speak to the pattern that seemed to exist for henry and his mistresses?#ie he didn't engage with one and then drop them for a year and then pick up again#when he was done he seemed to be done. that was what seemed to happen in the case of both bessie blount and madge shelton
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