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fuckblizzardbearlover · 1 year ago
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"Mens rights activist" was literally invented by red pill people who viewed "right to sex with women" as one of their goals. Peoppe who fight for mens rights are just progressives or feminists since feminism means discussing and protecting mens rights.
And those circles of men saying they have a right to have sex (i.e. rape women) and those who resurged the alt right movement is a circle. Its not disrespectful to bring up nazis when the mra people are literal nazis. Thats whos marching and flying the flag. Russel brand, andrew tate ...thr guys who made the bools about how to manopulate and neg women to trick them into sex...thats when mens rights activist came from.
I have no idea where yall got the idea it had anything to do with trans men or even cis men. It has always been about empowering men to hate each other and sexually assault women.
Furthermore you have to recognize it is all connected. Misogyny is a part of white supremecy. Transphobia is to. White supremecy is ultimately nazism. It ALL comes down to "society is suppose to be this certain way, with races stratified in this way and genders and classes. With cis white rich men on top and people who are "lesser" at the bottom".
White acting non whites are given bonus points if they "act white" and dont dilute white culture. Women are given a pass if they promote misogyny and stay subservisnt to men. Even queers might be allowed id they successfully hide it. Because society has to be a certain way with certain ppl on top and kthers either eliminated or surving them. To say misogyny has nothing to do with nazism is like saying a circle isnt a shape because it has no corners. Queerphobia, misogyny, antisemitism(christian supremecy), racism are the voltron pieces of nazism.
Similarly mens rights and queer rights are covered by feminism. Feminism is about bringing equality by equalizing the rights of women. For women to have equal rights it doesnt just mean birth control and sex education and equal oaym it also means that they would have equal chance to be drafted (ideally 0% chance, in a just society ), it means women arent treated as stupid, helpless bimbos which means they should be tried equally for sexual assault, spousal abuse, and child care.
Feminism says men and when deserve equity, ergo Real activists who fight for the rights of men to not be treated like monsters is a PART of feminism.
Ergo queer rights is also under feminism. Being able to marry and have sex with who you want regardless of your gender is...equality, freedom to not be attacked or harrassed on the street is one of everyones very first rights. Trabs bathroom issues are solved because no one has a right to harass you cus your throat or chin is to big or hair to long or not enough. That is the ideal. And you see proof of this everywhere. Terf ideology attacks cis women for having to much of a hormone, not being conventionally attractive enough, having the wrong hair. Terfdom in regards to women is just misogyny. Terfsom in regards to trans women and men is...again juat misogyny. It says women are weak and pathetic and must be protected and men are violent , big and predatory. This is theoretically solved through feminism which says and enforces that that ideal is wrong and unfounded.
Mens rights activist, maybe in one corner of the net for a little bit, but by and large has NEVER been about mens rights. Its been about oppressing women. We all know this, it was a common term used for them and no doubt "incel" came about as a way of rebranding it.
Mens rights are covered by feminism. Trans rights are to. And all bigotry is tied to white supremecy, whoch is nazism.
There is only one planet. So 100% of existence is affected by white imperialism and thus white supremecy. And recognizing that these ideals keep popping up isnt disrespectful of history. Imo its more disrespectful to belittle the significance of white supremecy just because its notndirectly invoking propoganda from a small countery in the 40s.
Nazism is white supremecy and white supremecy is all over the known universe, wherever there are people because 100% of human history is affected by it. Plenty of other forms of bigotry exist but even unrelated ones end up tied to it anyways (like how japans imperialism got coopted by white supremecy do to americas occupation).
Point being that while other forms of bigotry do exist besides white supremecy that its important to note that there doesnt exist a single human on thr planet born in a world without it.
The phrase "MRA" wasn't "ruined" by cis men, it was coined by and for a misogynistic hate movement that believes cis men are being oppressed by feminists. It has only ever referred to this movement (which btw doesn't tend to view trans men as men).
If someone called you a Nazi, I assume you wouldn't respond by saying "yeah I am a Nazi." Why is this phrase any different?
i wasn’t going to respond to this for a million different reasons but actually, i am going to do so just to make a little psa:
stop fucking comparing things to nazis to make a point. (and while you’re at it, don’t compare things to the holocaust either.) antisemitism and white supremacy aren’t rhetorical tools to be thrown around when it’s convenient for you in a debate. they’re actual violence that should be taken incredibly seriously, not an abstract thing to be tossed into a conversation any time you want to emphasize how bad you think a different thing is.
saying “i don’t think that being described as someone who fights for the rights of trans men should be a mark of shame” is not the same as if i proudly called myself a nazi. if you think those are even remotely similar, kindly fuck off. i really shouldn’t have to say that.
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