#this nihilism is still close to leftism but there is this whole elysium weirdness transcendent thing on top of it so maybe thats why he is

[yellow-yarrow]

wait I haven't noticed this before, but the next world mural is in line with Noid's ideology

"True love is only possible only in the next world - for new people it is too late for us. Wreak havoc on the middle class"

Noid - "In the true life of tomorrow, every woman will be an innocence.

Noid - "A life is true if it's free from fear and internal division among oneself. And others -- mankind has seeds of greatness in it. A germinal will come, a return to trueness. It will be hard core."

Noid - "Have you been listening to what Egg's been saying? Love is *hard core* man, and a mother's love is the hardest core of all..." Noid - "Well, they *loved* her. They put all their love in her and forgot all about the rest of us."

Which reminds me:

Fuck the World - "I can answer that. Many men keep searching for *the one*. For so-called true love, which is actually just obsession masquerading as kinship. The thrill of the chase, the hollowness that fills your chest cavity after catching it." (...) one must think of a way to fuck the whole world -- and not get caught up in fucking some *one*."

(The church quest is full of Scooter references and Fuck here sounds like he's quoting the first line of How much is the fish?: The chase is better than the catch - it's all connected lol)

True love is only possible in the next world/ true life of tomorrow where all women are innocences!

And I think this is all in line with Chernyshevsky's views about nihilism which has been discussed in this post

The line about fucking the whole world instead of putting all your love into one person also makes me think of a love that is not about thinking that you own your monogamous partner, but a more free kind of love that is present in Chernysevsky's book

Also, I feel like there are different versions of nihilism in Elysium, for example Zigi's father in Sacred and Terrible Air is a nihilist, but he says St Miro's nihilism isn't real nihilism, and it's a disappointment. So I'm not saying Noid is the same as Zigi, who wants the whole world to just disappear. Piss and Fuck seem to be also more into what Noid is talking about. Then there is Esteban and Hulio from Full Core State Nihilist (story on Martin Luiga's Medium set in Elysium) who are edgelords just fucking around (? I'm still not sure what their deal is)