#thinking about like. twelve and clara in the whole 'they're both kind of insane and it'll take the literal end of the world for them to cal

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something i enjoy about suits is that these mike and harvey are literally drawn to each other because they both love a good adrenaline rush. like, mike was the one who talked harvey into giving him a job despite having zero qualifications other than his insane memory, and yet harvey already had at least 75% made up when he shook mike's hand. harvey talks about how life is like this and he likes living like this, and mike talks about how he got kicked out of a life that he's been chasing ever since. they're both scrambling after some kind of insane life and mike will say that he wants to help people (and he does! i think he really does!), but he's also the insane guy who tells himself he's helping people by also lying his way into the system in the first place. he's a guy who likes to bend the rules to get at his larger goals, and harvey's the guy who sees most rules as gentle suggestions more than anything else, so long as he just wins. they're both insane! they feed into each other's insanity! mike can play coy and pretend he'll leave harvey eventually, but then harvey wheedles his way back into mike's life with another offer or plan or suggestion and mike will go "no, harvey, i like my peaceful life right now" and then an episode later be like "nvm. what are we doing now". i'm sick to the stomach because they're literally always going to be like this. they aren't escaping each other because they recognize each other for the insane high they both want. they're literally obsessed with each other

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twelveclara for that relationship ask game 🫶

describe their canon relationship/dynamic

what if you love someone so much you become them? what if they've seen you die a million times what if they weren't the man you loved at first but now you love them even more what if they've hurt you and made you lie and what if you've threatened them and what if you lie that you're happy so that they can leave and be happy themselves except you're both miserable and alone when you're apart what if the thought of them dying breaks something in you what if you're the only one they'll listen to what if you stop them when they want to tell you they love you what if you say you already know what if they watch you die again but it's different this time because you're actually dead and they can't accept that what if they spend billions of years for the chance they can get you back but they lose their memory of you and you listen to them talk to you about a girl called clara who they used to know

your ideal/headcanon version of it? how does it differ from how it is in canon & why is this your favorite version? any other alternate versions of it you enjoy?

why change perfection. my issue is with elevenclara rather than twelveclara elevenclara has an interesting dynamic in theory but in practice is. Kind of bad.

what do you like about their relationship, why is it interesting or enjoyable to you?

they're fucking INSANE and codependent and becoming eachother in a way that's hard to describe if you haven't watched the show. say what you will about the hybrid arc in S9 but I like it. throughout the whole season there keeps being mention of this "hybrid" being like the most dangerous and powerful thing etc but as the series goes on and clara and the doctor become more and more alike and more and more codependent you start to realise they are the hybrid and at the end of the universe me says about how they're so similar that they drive eachother to extremes both good and bad. My fav part of their relationship is probably how it is in motoe where clara is trying to tell herself this is the end because she HATES him but can't bring herself to "leave on a slammed door" and she starts to understand him in this episode and omg the twelveclaras are just too good in motoe

what about the individual characters involved? what does this relationship mean to them, what makes it unique among their relationships?

clara oswald is the only character in the world and twelve is the best doctor and I love them both and they will always be my fav. claras relationship with the doctor paralleled to her relationship with danny is soooooo interesting but I've talked about that before. for twelve I think clara is his first love since rose and obv there's been over a thousand years in his life since then obv there's river and maybe some minor characters but river is different they're married. clara parallels rose really nicely too which is something I'll go about another time but the thing most different between them is the doctor sent rose away to protect her but there's nothing that could separate him from clara until he is literally forced to forget her existence

favorite interaction they have in canon

diner scene + I don't deserve a friend like you // I'm sorry clara but I'm exactly what you deserve + I don't want to be the last of my kind + you look at me and you don't see me . please just see me + I'm not your boyfriend // I didn't say you were // I didn't say it was your mistake + whatever you're about to say, I already know

favorite interaction they have in your head/a situation you want to put them in

idk I don't really think about them outside of canon? I feel like I love their canon relationship so much that I don't have anything more I want from them .. I think an episode where they run into a clara splinter would be interesting like clara sees herself die and what do you even do about that. or maybe the doctor is trying desperately to keep the real clara from seeing the clara splinter or something. more twelveclaramissy would be good they're like the three worst lesbians alive

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thank you for the tag, @b1uetrees!

3 ships:

jwds (joo won and dong sik) from beyond evil, because like. how can they not be! i find that every time i rewatch beyond evil, i find something new about their relationship that i just adore--like, of course they have that delicious enemies-to-lovers arc, but also there's the added themes of like. mental illness and what it means to love someone whose mind might not be altogether there? and how there's like. idk. something something about love means grabbing someone and going "hey. we're getting out of this hell together. together." and it drives me insane every time!

marvey (mike and harvey) from suits, because oh man. something about how they're both objectively Not Great people, but i think there's something fascinating about the whole "i see something in you that i also see in me" and the whole "yes i know that we're committing a crime together but fuck it" and also the whole "you exasperate me sometimes but also i would rather take the hits than betray you" which makes me feel. insane.

whouffaldi (twelve and clara) from doctor who. are we sensing a theme? the theme being "ah. caroline adores ships that are just like. people who are both very insane but are also very loyal to each other and also they're not making each other better and they might be making each other worse but fuck it!!! fuck it!!!!" something about what happens when you have two people who have an insane god complex and are also stubborn as hell and it's the worst possible combination and the universe would probably implode if they kept running together--like! i don't know how you can get away from that kind of insanity.

First ship: definitely whouffaldi. every once in a while, i'll rewatch season 8 and 9 of doctor who, and every time, i have to go ".. . .. i can't believe this was the first ship i really fell in love with. i had such good taste, even back then!"

Last song: guilty as sin? by taylor swift, which i definitely think has to be one of my favorites on the new album. i've definitely been applying it to a lot of my own ships because ah, yes. when people might not have even slept with each other but still think about it and then act incredibly catholic/christian about it.

Currently reading: oh god. so many books. i'm currently re-reading the perks of being a wallflower by steven chbosky, but i'm also listening to dark places by gillian flynn and the lesbiana's guide to catholic school by sonora reyes. it's taking me forever though, mostly because i think i've hit the point in the semester where i just want to shut my brain down the second i leave class lol

Last movie: my last real movie was probably ratatouille--which is such a classic.

Currently Craving: time. i feel like there aren't enough hours in the day for what i want to do today so that's a little bit frustrating, but! such is life! we carry on!

no pressure tags: @kckenobi @l-tyrell @indigostars