#thezoldyckssweep

[chatxkilluaxnoir]

They are literally places where people can have normal, good lives. We are usually seeing the more crazy and awful parts of the HxH world. But people can still have normal, happy lives.

The Zoldyck dysfunction, abuse, torture, etc. is not normal.

Even Hunters and Mafia members are scared of the Zoldycks, horrified by them, etc.

Bisky, a older, high class hunter, even thinks about Illumi’s selfish, twisted love for Killua. Thinks about how it is a miracle Killua can smoke at all after what he went through.

They torture, abuse, manipulate, brainwash, lock away, etc. each other.

The Zoldyck family dysfunction and abuse is not normal in the HxH world.

To vote for AssClass just because they are “defying their genre” is kind of weird. Esp. Zig u are going to say the mess of the Zoldyck family is normal for the HxH world.

It says something that Kalluto is probably in a more free and good environment with the PT compared to their family. Not that PT is good, they aren’t. But for Kalluto it probably is better. Which really says something.

The Zoldycks locked up one of their children for years, misgendered her, and treated her as not even human. Killua was the only one who treated Alluka and Nanika well.

Illumi tried to kill Alluka/Nanika.

Illumi wanted Killua to kill him, so he feel the guilt of doing so forever. So Illumi can be in Killua’s heart forever.

Illumi put a brainwashing needle in Killua’s head. Which Silva and Zeno and Milluki knew about. And Silva probably ordered.

Silva and Illumi are both very manipulative towards their family( esp. Killua.

Killua was isolated, forced to kill and do something he didn’t want to do. They placed suffocating, restrictive expectations on him.

He wasn’t allowed friends until Gon. He tried to make friends with Canary, but that wasn’t allowed.

He ran away, and in doing so stabbed Kikyo in the face, and Milluki in the side. Later on, in the final phase of the exam where Illumi was mentally abusing him basically. Saying Killua had a soul of a killer and didn’t deserve friends and threatened Gon to “test” Killua. And just basically mentally destroyed Killua in that fight. And after Gon confronted Illumi about being a horrible brother he almost killed Gon. But didn’t because Hisoka wanted Gon to fight later. And because Illumi knows Hisoka.

Illumi was about to kill Killua’s first friend and the sister he loved dearly.

Basically all his powers and abilities are based around the pain and suffering Killua had to endure at the hands of his family. Where he in trying to break the cycle of abuse, to heal, and out of spite turns his abuse and suffering into a strength and actually uses them to help people or support others.

Killua and others in the family are tortured, beaten, whipped, poisoned, electrocuted, burned (Milluki while whipping Killua put out cigars on Killua’s body in the manga), gaslit, controlled, brainwashed, etc.

Killua and some others have built up such high pain, electrical (literally since he was a baby and/or toddler), poison, etc. resistance, because if the hell he has gone through his whole life.

They dropped off a 6-7 Killua to fight in a tower, and he was there for 1-2 years.

Also, the Zoldycks do love each other, but it is in a weird, unique, twisted kind of Zoldyck way.

The Zoldycks are literally one of the most interesting, compelling, complex, messed up, awful, dysfunctional, insane but also like a “normal” - at least for the Zoldycks, etc. family and/or group in HxH and just in anime/manga, and just in fiction in general imo.

They deserve this win imo.

Also here are some links with good Killua analysis (just all the gojou stuff basically). That also talk about some of the topics I tough upon here. Like Killua’s abuse and his powers, etc. coming from suffering. And etc.;

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And last of all (for now):

FINAL FIGHT

The Asanos (Assassination Classroom) VS the Zoldycks (Hunter X Hunter)

The Asanos

Members: Gakuhou Asano (father) and Gakushuu Asano (son)

Propaganda:

CW: physical abuse

"Crazy dad whose misguided goal is just to make his son strong (but whose definition of real strength leaves much to be desired), and son who does see the error in his dad's ways but is brainwashed enough to imagine that his "filial duty" under the circumstances is to "take control". No one knows for sure if a mom exists, but she clearly doesn't want to have much to do with these lunatics." "The dad doesn't even consider his son family, just a "student" as he is a principal. Utterly unhumane conditions is where he trains his son in. And worst of all, they compete on who will control the other, leash included. The first time the son even considers calling him father is when he literally abuses him physically."

The Zoldycks

Members: Zeno, Silva, Kikyo, Illumi, Milluki, Killua, Alluka, Kalluto

Propaganda:

CW: murder, torture, isolation

"What ISN'T dysfunctional about them? A family of assassins, they train all their children to be killers, including with literal torture. Killua is the one of the family who's a main character, the heir of the family, and he eventually runs away due to the dysfunctionality. All the kids are isolated, told they don't deserve friendship, and they all have different opinions on family matters but it affects them all! Illumi wants to control Killua to as extreme a degree as he possibly can, and even though Silva lets Killua leave, he fully expects him to return home and join the family business again, and both him and Zeno knew about Illumi's extreme methods of control." Note: edited for length, full submission here

[chatxkilluaxnoir]

"I didn't think I'd have any more Asano propaganda, but apparently I do?

Anyway, I offhandedly brought this poll up to my roommate and I want to explain where she is first because I think it's important. She appreciates HxH about as much as she enjoys AC, they're both in the middle. Perhaps she likes one more than the other, but she's not in love with either of them. She's also very analytical about things.

I have not seen HxH and she has, so I asked who she'd vote for. Immediately, without thought, she said the Asanos should win. Mind you, she's not an obsessed fan like I am. She barely knows anything about the Asanos other than my gushing, and she's not one to pick my favorite because it's my favorite. And then she offered up her reasons.

The Asanos have no reconciliation."

I am really starting to doubt the people who are saying they saw HxH in this thread actually saw it. Like, with people saying the Zoldyck Family are the norm. in HxH; when they really aren't. Or some of what ur friend said, because some of what ur friend said, literally didn't happen. I don't want to assume things of people. Maybe these people did see HxH, but it has just been awhile. But idk, some of the takes I am seeing on the Zoldycks seem to heavily downplay them, are weird, or are wrong.

Anyways, the Zoldycks don't really have much if any reconciliation at all. If anything, Killua by the end of the series is starting to truly understand just how abusive and awful they are. Though, he still has skewed about it. Because he is young. 12-14 at that point. Abusive victims still can care and love for their abusers, and might think the things they are going through are "normal" or "okay". They rationalize things. Killua is a very realistic portrayal (imo) of someone who has gone through abuse. Killua has also been numbed and/or desensitized to things, and horrible things have been "normalized" within their family. And/or etc. These and more all contribute to how he views his family. Like, he still has some love for Illumi, because Killua is a caring person, and because Illumi is one of the people who raised Killua (or at least, that is what Illumi states. Honestly, to me. Killua's real father in the Zoldyck estate, one of the people there that actually cared for Killua more genuinely and as his own person/an actual person, is/was Gotoh. God, I love Gotoh. Spoilers: RIP Gotoh, I will forever miss him. And his death is still being kept/hidden from Killua it seems too).

But Killua also highly fears Illumi. Making choices and reacting to Illumi based off that fear. Even by the end of the anime. Though, he does stand up to Illumi, because he has developed, and because he is trying to protect Alluka/Nanika. But even by the end, he still makes some choice(s) based off his fear of Illumi. Healing from abuse, can take a long awhile, and Killua has taken huge strides in it. But he is still very much healing and coming to terms with what was done to him. He understands a bit more when it comes to Alluka/Nanika, but that is because Killua is still rationalizing some things, esp. when it comes to himself, and because thinks he deserves a lot of the stuff that happens to him, is still developing his self-worth (which, he had none of basically, and now starting to develop it. Which is great), and because he tends to place others and/or some others before himself.

To go back to the Zoldycks don't really have much reconciliation either. Like, in some ways they have, but in other ways they haven't or have even gotten worse. To get back on that. Killua, like I said, when going back for Alluka/Nanika started to realize (more and more) how awful his family is; even calling out his family for killing more than Alluka/Nanika did. Illumi now wants to control Killua even more, so he can control Alluka/Nanika. Milluki and Zeno literally knows about the needle that Silva either ordered or was okay with Illumi planting in Killua's head. Which, Killua still doesn't about, and only knows about Illumi's involvement in the needle (which Killua is worried about Illumi permanently planting a needle and/or something like that in Killua's head, if he found out some more about Alluka/Nanika. Which, he somewhat did, and Killua was right. That Illumi wants to control him even more now). Kikyo was moved enough to taken down the restrictions on Alluka/Nanika and Killua, so that did enable them to go more free together. So that is something at least, and really nice at least. Good on Kikyo for that But I wouldn't really say Killua and Kikyo have reconciled though. And still quite insane (though, also kind of tragic too).

Killua, before his talk with Silva in the Zoldyck family arc; had never had a "father-son" talk like that. And even that talk, we later find out after Killua leaves, that that talk was Silva being manipulative. Don't get me wrong, there is love and respect between Killua and Silva, but Silva is also highly manipulative, and for a lot of Killua's life (any I argue, maybe even still [some] now), Silva barely saw Killua as his own person. He saw Killua as a younger him, and extension of himself basically. And now, Killua's respect for his father is starting to come undone too, with him more coming to terms with how he and/or Alluka and Nanika were treated.

The Zoldycks are also far from reconciled or better. Except for some things here or there. And Killua and Alluka/Nanika (who always had a strong love for each other). They are still a messed up family. And in some ways, they might even have gotten worse. And/or Killua's views of them have gotten worse, as he matures, and comes more to terms with his and Alluka and Nanika's mistreatment, abuse, isolation, and/or etc. And even if they had gotten better or reconciled (which they haven't really), that doesn't make all the bad things they have done, said, etc.; go away.

"She explained how the Zoldycks, as dysfunctional as they are, actually work together, regularly. Sure, it's against their own family members, but they still do this as a team. She brought up how they locked that girl in the basement for years, but they did that as a team. It was a group choice, and the entire family honored it."

Some of them honoring it, doesn't mean them locking away their onw child for years is a good or right thing. Also, Alluka/Nanika didn't honor it. They were locked away. They might have gone along with it, because they are generally kind and a child, and because they were listening to their parents. But overall, they didn't honor it. Killua didn't honor it, they literally had to make him forget them and/or not feel anything about them with the needle. Kalluto, probably didn't honor it either. He was very young; younger than Alluka. And if he did, he was probably just going along with someone like his mother.

They work/can work together, because abusive families can still work together and "love"/love each other. But also, because The Zoldyck Family is also a business. The Zoldyck kids are as much treated as weapons and tools, as they are real people and/or kids. If not more so.

Killua sees himself as a tool, as thinks he needs to useful to other people because of his horrible self-worth, his abuse, and limited view on relationships; esp. healthy ones. Illumi, is basically a puppet of his family, who in an ironic, sad, and fitting way; puppeteers other people. Milluki, can be very perceptive, but is also, very jealous and envious of other people. Like Killua. (Though, they do have a pretty fun and funny Older brother and younger brother relationship). And while these things might just be a choice and/or something he does because he likes it; I also think it can be a effect of Milluki's own issues within the family. Like how he self-isolates (hasn't left the Estate in actual years), and might eat the way he does, because of stress, and/or as a relief. Milluki probably doesn't' feel he is as treated as fairly and/or etc. he could be.

Anyways, back to what I was saying about the other person's paragraph I quoted, and the Zoldyck Family dynamic. The Zoldycks also tend to have a give and take relationship. So, you do me this thing, you get this thing. And/or etc. It is an assassin mentality. And is another reason (among Killua just being a caring, kind person. And having very little self-worth, being a abusive victim. Etc.), why Killua feels like he has a huge "debt" to repay to Gon. Because feel like Gon saved him from the Zoldyck estate; from his family. And he basically feels like that is a debt is so huge, he might never be able to repay it. Long story short; the Zoldyck's family dynamic is still just messed up and dysfunctional.

"Also, the rule is that you are always welcome home, so long as you can get in the door. She explained how at some point, Killua (hope I spelled that right) ran off to be a hunter and never look back, only to later decide that his friends sucked and he wanted to return home,"

This isn't what happened. Killua ran away and took the Hunter Exam, and in the final phase, he had to fight Illumi (his eldest brother), who undid his disguise in front of Killua (which, when Killua saw it was Ilumi and in other parts of this "fight"; Killua just looked and/or was terrified), and then proceeded to gaslight and mentally abuse Killua. Say Killua had a soul of a killer, and that he didn't deserve or need friends.

Threatened Gon's life, and when Killua proceeded to not be able to stand up to Illumi for Gon, and basically gave up the fight, out of fear and because he didn't know how else he could protect Gon, because Killua couldn't stand up to Illumi. And then Illumi acted like he was joking, he was "testing" Killua by doing this. Which just completely mentally destroyed Killua, and then he killed someone (won't get into the specifcs of that, it is kind of complicated to exaplain why Killua did that), and then left to go back home, to show to Illumi he was doing what he wnated, so he wouldn't Gon and/or the others, and because Killua had felt like he had "failed" Gon. And/or etc.

Then he went home, and was chained up, whipped, burned, etc. for weeks, and didn't come out of his chains completely until later on in this weeks and towards the end of the Zoldyck Family arc/mini-arc. There is more I can say to this, but I think this is enough. So yeah, this didn't happen. Unless ur friend is talking about the other time Killua went home. And if so, that didn't happen either. Killua was mad, and did want some kind of sorry from Gon. But he also still deeply cared for Gon, and wanted to save and heal him. Which, Alluka/Nanika can do. He was also wants to save Alluka/Nanika too. So he came back to the Estate to save Gon and Alluka/Nanika. And left with Alluka/Nanika to get them away from his family, and to save them, and to save Gon. Killua didn't go back to his family, because his friends "sucked". Like, I am not getting this take.

"where his mother basically said "welcome home honey, your room is just as you've left it"."

She didn't say this. And yeah, Kikyo does want Killua back. But that is because she is completely, unhealthily obsessed with him. And is very suffocating and controlling with him. Also, because he is the heir, and she feels like this is "an important time in his development". Basically, Kikyo does love Killua. But it is far from being healthy or good.

"And yeah, he had to get past some rabid dogs, but if you can open the front door, you'll be allowed back in, no questions asked."

They have to get through heavy gates, because the Zoldycks value strength. The dogs (like Mike, plus more u seeing during the Chairman Election Arc), aren't rabid dogs. They are huge, wolf-dog-like creatures, how robotically and analytically take in their prey and/or intruders and kill and/or devour them. They are incredibly huge and smart creatures that guard the Estate and kill intruders. Though, even people like Zebro (I think that is his name. I love him, but I am not always the best at names); works for the Zoldycks has fear of these creatures. He works for the Zoldycks, but he is still not a Zoldyck, if that makes sense.

And once again, yes, Killua would be allowed back, because he is literally the heir, and because the Zoldycks can hurt and try to kill each other on the daily. U would have to do something VERY awful or maybe even something so good, but not good for the Zoldycks, or something to not be let back in. Not that Killua wants to be let back in really. Not with their treatment of him, and esp. Alluka/Nanika.

"To be honest, after hearing this, I thought "that doesn't sound dysfunctional at all"."

That is because ur friend has weird takes and/or were saying things that didn't even happen apparently. To the point where I wonder if they even saw HxH. But they could just be misremembering stuff or something. I want to try to not assume things. I know better, because I've been keeping up on the propaganda,"

Cool.

"but like the Hargreeves, as dysfunctional as they are in very many messed up and unique ways, they still work."

I wouldn't really say the Zoldycks work though? For all the reasons I gave in this reblog and others. And because basically all the kids, except Milluki are rebelling in some ways. Like, Silva says, stay away from the Troupe: Killua: Goes after them with friend(s). And the get captured with Gon. And gets captured a 2nd time later with Gon. Kalluto: Joins the Troupe to get thier brother back. Illumi: Also joins the Troupe. Because of a contract, sure, but he still joins it. And he also just joins it and takes that contract, because he is a weird fricken relationship, with the murder clown, Hisoka. And etc. And this is just an example of them "rebelling". Them all, besides probably/maybe Milluki rebelling is so funny to me. Also, once again, eve if they did "work' in some ways, doesn't make them any less dyfunctional or abusive.

"She also said the family members have this sort of approach with each other where it's like "I'm gonna regret doing this, but I need to ask my family member for a favor... SIGH.""

Yeah, this because some relationships work on a give or/& take; assassin kind of thing. They are assassins/an assassin family after all.

I wouldn't say this is good; it is more neutral than anything. That can sometimes lean more into positive or negative. It also just shows the weird ways the Zoldycks work and their interesting dynamics.

"And the Asanos... never did that. Gakuhou built up this assumption that asking for help is for the weak and that you have to be absolutely perfect, held up to these impossible standards,"

Killua has had very high expectations (his life already decided for him) placed on him in being an assassin, a killer, the heir to his family, by so many in his family. Even when he doesn't really want to be. Even though that was part(s) of the reasons he ran away. Even though he literally tells Illumi he wants to be normal, and be friends with Gon (i.e.; in the same final hunter exam "fight" between Killua and Illumi. Which I talked about already in this reblog and [I think] others). Killua was surprised/shocked when Silva wanted to have that talk with Killua in the Zoldyck Family arc, because of the reasons I already gave when talking about that talk, and some of the stuff that came after it. The Zoldyck Family also respects strength highly; I will get into this (even) more later.

"and near the end, Gakushuu decides to ask E-class for help in secret to "assassinate his father's teachings", but like hell he was gonna tell his father. This was when he finally decided that he wasn't going to become his father and play his games anymore. And did they ever figure it out amongst themselves? No they did not. Shuu talks this whole big game of owning his father and making him his pet someday (assumed in work) but didn't even bother actually doing that when he left for the US to start his own business. And Shuu never bothered even going back, but if he did, would he have been welcomed in the font door like Killua? I doubt it. Because returning home would've been seen as "weak", something Shuu was not allowed to be around his father under any circumstances."

Killua's family have some different views of strngths and weaknesses. Which again, I will get more into later. Also, I have already kind of talked about (in a way) the stuff about Killua here, so I won't do so again.

"And in case you question Gakuhou's stance on weakness, Shuu slipped once, once, and referred to his minio-I mean friends as "friends", and then his father promptly sucked the souls out of them and made them study zombies that didn't care about anything else (including their "friend" Shuu) just to prove a point. Because they were seen as a "weakness". No, Shuu would not have been allowed back through that front door, ever."

Like I have already said. Killua was not allowed friends. He tried to make friends Canary, but that wasn't allowed.

(Also, in this post I already linked, but I will do so again here: https://www.tumblr.com/mariposahxh/721574713281921024/tsukum-things-about-killuas?source=share&ref=_tumblr . Speciically, this point: "killua used to call kikyo “mama” until one day she tortured canary with electric whips for “being negligent about killua” and killua grabbed onto the whips to try and get her to stop and didn't let go until “…blood was leaking from his ears… his hands were smoking” , in that post. That goes more about Killua, Canary, their relationship, and how they get treated by The [some of] The Zoldycks. Like Kikyo/Killua's mother. Yeah; it is messed up. And sad. Once again; rec. looking at that post I linked. Very messed up, sad, and interesting Zoldyck Family stuff.).

When Killua said he wanted to be friends with Gon. Illumi said he had a Soul of a Killer, and wasn't really interesting in being friends with Gon. And then threatened Gon's life. And just basically mentally abused and messed with Killua. Also, said Killua didn't need or deserve friends. Illumi probably sees friends as a weakness and/or just unneeded (at least) (too) for the Zoldycks and/or assassins. Like here/with this example with Killua (even though Illumi is somewhat of a hypocrite when it comes to friends. Somewhat. But you know, that is just interesting honestly).

Silva lets him go and be friends with Gon, but he basically expects Killua to come back, because "he is a son" (I.e.; this harkens back to me saying that Silva doesn't completely see Killua as his own person. And he [had somewhat] saw Killua as an extension of himself. Also, we saw after that talk, that that was Silva being manipulative (maybe not completely, but he was being manipulative with Killua) Also, Silva knew about, was complacent about, and/or ordered putting the needle in Killua's head, and had Killua make a promise/blood promise with Killua about his friend(s) about not betraying them.

And that promise, combined with the needle, combined with, while Silva doesn't understand Killua in a lot of ways, does probably in some ways. Like Killua's loyalty, how, Killua would feel guilt and take a lot of responsibility, beat himself up, and/or etc.; if he felt like he had "betrayed/let down/etc.", if Gon/his friend/someone he cared about died because he ran away, or etc. And so, Killua would probably come back, in guilt, to "accept" his fate as an assassin and the heir to the family. Basically, it was Silva (at least) partially, being manipulative.

Now to talk about the Zoldycks' stance on strength and weaknesses. U are literally not able to get through their front doors unless u are strong, basically everything at their Estate is weighted and heavy. They have been taught to (try to) numb their emotions/control their emotions/not have emotions. Killua thinks that to survive means being able to survive a near-lethal dose of poison. Killua is literally that used to being poisoned, tortured, pain nearly dying, etc. Even though Killua doesn't like pain and/or etc; he just has built up a good resistance to it, and just tolerates it.

Killua while always capable of showing and being vulnerability and having emotional connections; had these thing stifled while at the Zoldyck estate. And they could only really flourish and heal, the more he developed, and the more away from his family and/or the more the got away from the Zoldyck Family influence. Which really says something about (some of) the Zoldycks.

"And that's why I think the Asanos should win this one."

While, I think the Zoldycks should win this on, u are free to have different opinions.

"Are the Zoldycks dysfunctional? Hell yeah they are! And I really should watch Hunter x Hunter now so I can see for myself, but if my friend, a middle ground observer that doesn't feel particularly attached to either side, still thinks it should go to the Asanos because of the points listed above, well... maybe it should."

Like I said, some of the stuff ur friend stuff just legit didn't happen and/or the take is just weird, so I am starting to question if ur friend (and some other people in the reblogs who say they have), seen HxH at all. However, I also don't want to assume stuff if I can, and maybe they are just misremembering and/or have (really) weird takes (imo) that I don't agree with. Also, I have already gone over the points above, and talked more about The Zoldycks so I won't do so again.

"As lonely and small as the Asano world is, isn't that proof of its all encompassing dysfunctionality? That it was just the two of them and that they also became estranged probably means that there was nothing in the Asano family that worked? There was no calling on siblings for help, asking uncles for favors, calling a family meeting to decide the fate of one of their other family members (no matter how unjust it was), nothing, because the dysfunction that is the Asanos was just too great."

Again, I have already talked about the favors stuff with Zoldycks, and more about just how they work, so I won't do so again. I will say though; that basically everything about the Zoldycks is dysfunctional. Even when they try to have order, rules, laws, etc. (and, if anything, just how strict they are in some areas just shows their dysfunction); the way their family functions is dysfunctional and awful they are.

"I love the Asanos, and it was said a while back that they're really relatable, but that actually makes me really sad. That means a lot of people feel like they can't talk to their own family members anymore, or their parents pressure them so much that they don't want anything to do with them anymore, and this is our fate. :/ It's not that I have a dysfunctional family, just more like there's very very few of us and we're all stretched out, but I sure wish I had an uncle or cousin or sibling to call out to for some help. Even if I'd really regret owing them. I think that's something a lot of people with dysfunctional families that still surprisingly work in weird ways don't get. You may hate the heck out of your brother, but if you can still call on him for help, reach out in a desperate situation, and get help, I envy that. That's not something you get with the Asanos."

People find Killua relatable very relatable (like, one of the most relatable characters in manga/anime and/or etc. imo) too. At least some/partially (among other reasons and/or stuff), because of the expectations placed on him, and his relationship(s) with his family (and friends). Though, the Zoldycks are also so unique, out there, insane, and well, Zoldyck too. And that, among many other reasons, is what makes them so interesting, compelling, and well-written. Also, like I said, the Zoldycks don't really work. Not really at least. I do think the Zoldycks are very weird though (I love them). And also, even if they did work; that doesn't mean they aren't highly dysfunctional, or less so than the Asanos.

Also, like I said, Killua doesn't really want much to do with his (some of his) family anymore (except for certain times and/or if he needs to. And/or certain people he might be more willing to talk to), esp. after the CE arc.

"I think that's something a lot of people with dysfunctional families that still surprisingly work in weird ways don't get. You may hate the heck out of your brother, but if you can still call on him for help, reach out in a desperate situation, and get help, I envy that."

Also, what I think some people don't get themselves. Is that, sometimes having no family or very little family is better than having a dysfunction or abusive one (among many other things when it comes to the Zoldycks. Like torture). For example; people like to say Ging is a worse father than Silva (Ging isn't a good dad. But Silva is a MUCH worse father. This coming from someone who likes Silva more than Ging), just because Silva was there.

But Silva literally abused and/or had and/or let his kids abused and tortured (and etc.). Gon does have some issues due to not having a father (and Ging has done some questionable things as a person and/or father); which is something that happens in in real life with kids, esp. sons, don't have fathers. But him having no father was still better than actually being abused, tortured, etc. I still get the point u are trying to make though. It just doesn't work when talking about certain people or families. Like when talking about the Zoldycks (imo). I feel bad/sad that you feel that way though.

Sorry, this was a lot longer than I expected it to be, and lot more personal than I thought it was gonna be, but now that I've written it down, I definitely think the Asanos should win this one.

Please consider voting for the Asanos, for all those people that feel like they can't have blood families because they just... don't work anymore."

"Sorry, this was a lot longer than I expected it to be, and lot more personal than I thought it was gonna be, but now that I've written it down, I definitely think the Asanos should win this one."

And I defin. think the Zoldycks should win. However, again, people can have different opinions. And it is cool that the Asanos can make u feel things like this.

"Please consider voting for the Asanos, for all those people that feel like they can't have blood families because they just... don't work anymore."

Killua has healthier and better relationships with people he aren't blood-related to; except Alluka/Nanika (currently). There is a reason why people love the found family thing/idea with The Main 4 (Gon, Killua, Leorio, and Kurapika), as well as others like Alluka/Nanika. Or even Kalluto (because they are also still so young, and if any more of the Zoldyck siblings can still be saved; I would think it would be Kalluto. Also, people just love them; like I do too!). And like I said already (in reblog(s)), (some of) Killua's servants more genuinely cared about, loved, and/or had healthier relationships with Killua, more than his own family did (except for Alluka/Nanika really).

The Zoldycks don't really "work" either honestly. There might be love, care, etc.; involved with them. But that is just realistic to how some abusive and dysfunctional families can work. Though, with the Zoldycks, that love and care can be weird, twisted, abusive, selfish, manipulative, etc. There is just so much going on with the Zoldycks and just so much wrong w/ them.

This is is still a nice sentiment though. Even if I want people to vote for the Zoldycks.

FINAL FIGHT

The Asanos (Assassination Classroom) VS the Zoldycks (Hunter X Hunter)

The Asanos

Members: Gakuhou Asano (father) and Gakushuu Asano (son)

Propaganda:

CW: physical abuse

"Crazy dad whose misguided goal is just to make his son strong (but whose definition of real strength leaves much to be desired), and son who does see the error in his dad's ways but is brainwashed enough to imagine that his "filial duty" under the circumstances is to "take control". No one knows for sure if a mom exists, but she clearly doesn't want to have much to do with these lunatics." "The dad doesn't even consider his son family, just a "student" as he is a principal. Utterly unhumane conditions is where he trains his son in. And worst of all, they compete on who will control the other, leash included. The first time the son even considers calling him father is when he literally abuses him physically."

The Zoldycks

Members: Zeno, Silva, Kikyo, Illumi, Milluki, Killua, Alluka, Kalluto

Propaganda:

CW: murder, torture, isolation

"What ISN'T dysfunctional about them? A family of assassins, they train all their children to be killers, including with literal torture. Killua is the one of the family who's a main character, the heir of the family, and he eventually runs away due to the dysfunctionality. All the kids are isolated, told they don't deserve friendship, and they all have different opinions on family matters but it affects them all! Illumi wants to control Killua to as extreme a degree as he possibly can, and even though Silva lets Killua leave, he fully expects him to return home and join the family business again, and both him and Zeno knew about Illumi's extreme methods of control." Note: edited for length, full submission here