#they don't know what choice words to use to be appealing to the faction they're try attract.

[mintyfrogpluto]

What they're saying is that we are stealing Catwoman's trait of being a protector of Crime Ally, especially Women and Children, and Helena's trait of all the interpersonal relationships with people, basically their brand of Justice. ⟵ I read this in an anti-Jason post.

They think all of Jason's side of the fandom want this. And this is the reason most of fanfic writers take above concept for him in their writing.

Which they don't understand ...

1. Is none of their business what a fanfic writer do in their own work because they don't get paid to hear this bullshit. And everyone is entitled to their own imagination. They put their work out in the world for people who enjoy and appreciate it.

2. Not everyone in Jason's side of the fandom want him near Batfamily or in Gotham. I personally want him as far away from Gotham as possible. Because every Bat needs to get out of that hellhole to become somewhat mantally stable.

But we won't have that because DC likes to make him suffer and bind him to Batman one way or other. Especially Jason, whenever he's near them his mental health takes a critical hit. And we will see him getting used as a plot device without doing anything developing for his character.

This is the reason most people writing him in fanfics give him above interpersonal relations to people of Crime Ally, Women and Children, because he can't escape Gotham. So, why not give him something to do and continue his Crimelord Era without taking away what he stands for now.

And what is wrong with a character having same kind of epiphany, sense of justice without ever meeting the ones who started it way before him. He does not have to be original. He only have to be himself.

They want us to like these Female characters and stop giving cool things on all the Male characters. Maybe they are afraid that if we imagination it too much some day it will become true. And all the credits will go to him.

But aren't you guys here to hammer it to people's head who are the originals. Besides it will never became true.

And the way they keep telling people to read it especially Jason Todd fans is funny. We don't want to read it for this specific concept. We will read it if it ever become canon because it has Jason Todd. We will read it specifically for him. Those Female characters already delivering it before has nothing to do with it.

Everyone can like whoever they want it has nothing to do with male or female. Everything is fictional.

I've seen more posts about people claiming that Jason stans want him to be like Helena (catholic (??) with a soft spot for kids and women – which he has btw since the 80's, just depends who's writing–), than posts actually acknowledging and praising her as her own individual character ngl