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elizabethrobertajones · 6 years ago

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14x04 watching notes

Happy Birthday, Davy!

Mittens just ominously warned me to warm up this notepad while I waited for the episode to finish downloading.

The nice guy from the phone provider has recently restored our internet after 4 days of radio silence from me, but it's only about 4'o clock on friday, so really some good timing!

Expectations: pre-mittens warning, Davy back on his nonsense with the scary episodes and expected nonsense of sinking back into MotW after mytharc but in capable hands because, you know, new writing team is aces and all.

post-mittens warning: idk but I should get a stuffed toy?

That's a suspicious amount of ghost lore.

Has Heaven started dumping the spirits out now and if it really IS a ghost it's not going to behave properly?

Oh my god it's a Hell Hazers poster.

There was something I would have talked about pre-episode but had no internet so didn't, but the focus on Dean and nerds and the expectation that this episode would be about a comic book store, did remind me of 9x07 and the action figure which was all "i clobber evil!" and was a strong Dean mirror, including that he needlessly burned it on the stove to try and get rid of the ghost of the mom but it turned out she needed to be talked into letting her son let her go in a scene which has all sorts of shades of Dean vs Mary in 12x22 now and also Dean's entire mark of cain arc was in the self-destruction of his self as an action figure that clobbered evil. A reminder that Dean is this figure seems fairly timely with him coming down from being possessed, as of course he has been used as an action figure. And his willingness to turn himself into one in 13x23 was very much turning himself into the Michael Sword, which in this cosmos is practically like the rarest collectible action figure of the universe. This harks back all the way to the first season and Dean's issues with John's control and the whole blunt little instrument arc, also something that fed directly into demon!Dean, and is being reflected this season in Nick, who murdered a guy with a hammer, after his family was murdered by a hammer, and said yes to Lucifer because of all that angst about hammer murder. Subtle.

Anyway, this is sort of the emotional background to me for action figures in the show.

A Hell Hazers poster also reminds us that Dean is a horror fan, his own connections to the genre, a CLASSIC episode, and a time when he was living his best life briefly.

You know, before he sold his soul for *waves at previous big paragraph* reasons

Fitting for how season 13 ended with Dean this close to happy world peace retirement living his best life :P

Awww the fake movie the MotW comes from is called All Saints Day. Davyyy :')

People I know who are born on like October SECOND consider themselves extra spooky halloween people. I can only imagine what it does, as a 23rd Oct. birthday person, to the psyche to actually be born ON it.

This episode's subtitle is just "Lol I have the best birthday, fuckers"

ACTUAL CLIP FROM 2x18!

And the fucking racist truck >.> Which in-universe was teased as another different movie using the footage in the trailer for Hell Hazers II.

My mum has that exact Wonder Woman figure

This guy is wearing a trenchcoat-featured jacket with a maroon t-shirt under it. I could not tell you what he represents but the trenchcoat part is amusing.

I can't *actually* start saying everything is party!Cas symbolism though so I'll just shush

Er this rando that people were saying was dressed like Sam from the promo images literally is called Sam, and she's wearing a very very loud checkered shirt, of course featuring a lot of orange. I'm guessing with that info it's next to impossible to say she ISN'T in some way a Sam parallel :P

Comic Book Guy is possibly caught in the middle of stealing an action figure, and I can't work out if he is just nervous about that or has a crush on Sam because his behaviour was so suspect, but from the promo scene where he looks a lil worse for the wear he talks about breaking up with his goth gf, and Sam is very clearly a nerd, not a goth.

(Goth nerds are things. The media will get there one day :P)

Oh okay after a few lines of the exchange, yeah this guy is a dick, I have NO clue why he's wearing that coat symbolism wise, and Sam really ought to fire him because wow, uncool and also he seems to be a stereotypical nerdbro gatekeeper who would literally rather scare off customers but be right than just enjoy what they all enjoy together.

Then he apologises for getting angry for saying he just gets spun out sometimes. Honestly, this seems to be crossing over into Dean territory considering the last thing from the recap was Dean being told he was like Michael by Bad Kaia and being really angry when he said he was nothing like him... He also used "spun out" about himself in 12x20 but in rather more tragic lost-Cas circumstances but obviously this parallel has a different lesson to tell than just making them equivalent. This guy is so awful and is using his anger in a petty way over things that don't really matter. He's getting spun out over made up battles rather than real angst, and whether he has his own underlying trauma that makes him behave that way or not, the straight white nerd is one of the secondary main villains of the century so far after the literal alt right, with some overlap of course. Think Kylo Ren as one of the dominant critiques of this behaviour :P Compared to the open of 8x11 for example, where the nerds were harmless weirdoes despite also being straight white and obsessive, the aggression and obsession are played not just as a harmless trait of people who like LARPing and collecting toys, but gatekeep, yell at kids over superman facts, and refuse to have their own dominance challenged.

Thinking he could fight superman might actually explain the Cas like jacket - it's too short to be a coat - that he idealises these heroes, is wearing Batman (who in pop culture most recently was around "v superman") and Cas of course has all his superman comparisons from both 6x20, and his rebirth in 12x01 where he came back to earth as a fiery comet and was immediately mistaken for a spaceman. There's some dark idolisation/mirroring here, that he's debating how to fight the guy (krytonite gloves = the BMoL knuckledusters) and at the same time mirroring the show's Superman in his dress. Only much, much lesser. More subtextual mockery about his weakness and how he doesn't really measure up.

I think in a lot of ways the discourse about nerds in pop culture is moving on now to make this difference clear, that the ones who will be mocked are the ones who deserve it for being too cruel to respect, while in many other ways the mainstreaming of nerd culture into pop culture, meaning a large amount of it is no longer mockable, that everyone had at least SOME nerdy indulgences, means that in general nerdom is more accepted and exalted than ever. SPN obviously having its own deep roots into nerd culture has some direct room for commentary here, and this is also a way of reminding its own fans to be cool and not to be this guy.

Oh, huh, he safely exited the shop. I did not see that coming.

LOL he has batman bedding on a fold out bed in either a shed, garage or basement where he lives.

(This detail was tragic in Attack the Block but it's quite clear in this case the guy is fully grown and is being used as a detail to show his forward progression in life)

Wow, you really have some rage issues here. Especially trying to wrangle free pizza i mean dude. Talk about a line that personifies him 100 different ways in one go :P Who shouts at their pizza delivery place?? They remember your number! This is how to get extra toppings.

Oh my god please get beaten to death by this lil guy

(I know I know he survives he's in the promo)

Is this like... haunted kidney episode... but better?

Actually, Fallen Idols plus Mannequin episode but better.

You know how we saw in the last new year? Watching Small Soldiers for the first time since like the 90s or whenever it came out

The show's animation is so much better

Than Small Soldiers and itself from past years

Oh DEAN

I mean he totally deserves a day off.

I can't believe he owns these socks. Who got them for him for Christmas?

Okay, well first we have to work out which was the last Christmas they had where they were not in prison or in an alternate dimension or dead or -

Cas. It was Cas.

He literally had no idea this wasn't just a cute commentary on how much Chinese take out Dean eats

Anyway as far as I can tell Dean is living out the bisexualdemondean header just to spite Michael for defiling his temple. He's filling it with noods and pizza (and I am sure he didn't yell at the delivery guy, but tipped him well instead for making drop offs at a shady street corner miles from where anyone lives)

Honestly it's been 12 years since Hell Hazers II... What took them so long

Dean's drunk a full thing of Margiekugle mom beer, which is a lil worrying just in terms of him using it instead of comfort from her like in 12x02, now that she's back.

God I want Dean to meet the asshole from the comic shop and for him to get into a dick measuring contest about Hell Hazers II and Dean to be like uh I WORKED on it you ass

Er, does that vending machine contain the nougat of choice of your consumptive son on the other side of the wall?

(who may be out with Cas concealing his consumption on a case so not bothered by all this TV noise)

God I love and have missed Dean, my trashy guy who is sitting hugging a pillow like a teen girl at a sleepover to watch his hatchetman slasher to celebrate being back to himself and get the much-needed R&R, since, you know, last time we saw him he threatened to "break" Kaia and was in a very very bad place (lol)

This guy about to get murdered for trying to snatch a nougat bar is dressed like the unfortunate bandmate (Tommy?) to Vincifer. Is this an oblique Ladyheart reference to set up a weird scenario where Hatchetman is punishing a Lucifer-adjacent asshole for trying to steal Nougat?

I can't believe there's a red exit sign behind him which means Wanek is Waneking in multiple dimensions at once

"Mint Condition" flashes up over Dean indulging in his pizza, saying, hey look it's our guy back in shape. Or, you know, ironically so. Either because Dean being Dean means eating junk food and wallowing because his husband has wandered off with the kid and isn't home to snuggle him while he does this mandatory bedrest, or because, of course, Dean is not Mint Condition at all. He's literally and emotionally scarred.

I am pretty sure this shirt that Sam has on is 12 years old.

Statistically, they're gonna get murdered in each and every one of their original Kripke era shirts until none of them are available to be murdered in later.

I say for no particular reason.

Leave Sam alone. He doesn't shave you mock him, he does shave, you... also mock him. He was doing really well while you were gone! No one got even slightly stabbed who didn't deserve it! This is an all-time record. A beard is a price to pay for that.

Honestly I think Dean is stoned but they're not going to say so but I am treating this scene like it is.

"I wanted to check up on you," Sam says, pulling over a chair. This is so like how he was in 14x01 when he was powering around the Bunker being the boss, and given Dean's been on bedrest, again, much-needed, Sam is treating him like another one of his charges, and once more is in a position of authority... But now, despite shaving to act like nothing has changed a bit more, he is the one in charge of Dean as one of his wards. Everything has changed. Your dynamic is actually wobbling in a weird way.

In season 10 when Dean was laid up with the Mark blues especially around 10x12, which this intro also reminds me of, re: Dean spending a week in his room and Sam popping in to check on him, Sam was still keeping a very wary eye on Dean more that he was a bomb that may explode, and that while he needed to be managed, the power dynamic was extremely, extremely horrifying in that if Sam messed up Dean would murder him. Not an ongoing implicit threat between them, but the knowledge that Dean could become a demon again and demon!Dean would attempt to kill Sam, and so Sam had better do his utmost to keep Dean in a good place. Even if it eventually meant a series of convoluted secrets to try and fix him against his wishes.

Obviously, things are different here. Sam has developed a LOT since then, with season 11 beginning a recovery of his character in tentative little steps which actually kicked off in season 12, and, specifically, in 12x04 under Davy Perez in American Nightmare heralding the new era of Sam focus and lovingly stroking his hair and lavishing him with Sam-sculpted episodes the like of which we hadn't seen all through Carver era.

Now when Sam comes into Dean's room and pulls up a chair and sits down to check up on him, he actually radiates a comfortable, competent authority to do so.

... however he is doing it in that pink shirt which I honestly love the concept of but just wish that I couldn't see Sam in 2x06 showing up in it for the first time, like, my brain is just screaming at him to go get a bunch more pink shirts and refresh his wardrobe

I'm so certain of it but now I have to check because 12 years is such a long time but

http://www.homeofthenutty.com/supernatural/screencaps/albums/SPN2x06/SPN_0060.jpg

Mittens yelled "OH MY GOD" when I sent her the link so I think I'm right

Like, conceptually in every way it's great because it's this long pink shirt that fits him well, fuck toxic masculinity, blah blah action heroes in pink shirts, love it love it love it, but also: it's another fucking plaid shirt Sam has owned since he was a gap-toothed child six years younger than Jack presents as

Dean is lacking his second bedside table, as he has been for seasons, but I'm just staring at him lying sideways on his bed, wondering about his set up, and if this is in any way similar to how he watched all those cowboy movies with Cas, since Davy, of course, was the one to suggest that they had been watching movies together.

"And... not that I'm complaining... House is full of strangers"

Yeah, we know you hate it, Dean. God, it's tragic. In a wonderful way. Sam's built this little empire for himself and it's on top of Dean's old nesting spot. Dean's been forced into his room not just to hide away because he's ashamed but because he doesn't want to be seen and there's too many strange eyes out there. However this resolves, it's going to force some growth. Honestly, as much as Dean loves this room and it means to us, it's also a bleak lonely spot and in the like 7 years they've had the Bunker, Dean's never hooked up in that bed, while it has come to be very much like, well... The bed of an angry nerd living in a basement still using Batman sheets. Again, dark parallels, but of Dean in a dark place.

I'd love if he moved out and got a house in the suburbs.

I mean.

Cas has a house in the suburbs.

(Re: long-running Lizzy watching notes in-jokes about where he stashes a bunch of stuff like demon tablets, first blades, metatron's grace, etc etc)

But yeah, no. I like the idea of Dean nesting, of course. But aside from the obvious conveniences, the Dean Cave, etc, there's no reason it HAS to be here except that this is their inheritance and it's safe. But as I constantly talk about with the library abutting the war room, the work/life balance is always in question and filling the Bunker with strangers is a great way to shove all the life balance out, and leave the only spot left of that to Dean in this room.

If the AU peeps don't all get sent home but remain at least in part a hunter community and maybe even network and grow as the Winchesters finally open up the Bunker's resources and share them and stop being all isolated like Carver era fiercely protected... Dean might have no choice but to move his nesting down the road to somewhere with a sofa where he can park his car out front, and choose to commute in to work.

Awww they have the "our lives are a scary movie" argument again, in a well-worn way. So well-worn this is repeating dialogue from somewhere or other... 2x18? 4x07? God I don't know, implicit in Sam's eyerolling at Halloween in 1x01? All of the above? I am not looking that up. But anyway their stances haven't moved, possibly because this is something that has never really been challenged before. If Sam didn't hate scary movies already, watching 18 hours of Hell Hazers II dailies probably did in any remaining sympathy he would have had towards them, while Dean thrived there.

I guess he may finally have had time to watch it?

And of course stay for the credits to see his name.

Anyway Dean has historically cited movies as research or job adjacent, or vicariously enjoyed watching monsters at work from the safe remove of a screen, while Sam throws it all in to that box where of course it goes to 1x01 where he's running away from ALL of it and has his oddly specific choices to avoid halloween in his day to day as Lawboy. He's struggled to indulge in the weird as a hobby, likes serial killers as, as far as we can diagnose, an outlet of darkness but purely human, and keeps the work/life balance in a rather unhealthy way of denial and boxing things away, because so much of his early seasons arcs were about resisting the life and refusing the call. This harks back to their literal first episode characterisations of Dean being all in and Sam being all out and it's interesting to have us back here in season 14, in a period of such deep reflection, when Sam has finally sort of accepted the life, found a niche in the work that suits him as the boss, and Dean is struggling now with retirement questions, and taking a week off, not liking his home full of strangers, etc etc.

"More Michael Monsters?" Dean asks immediately quick fire when Sam says he has a case.

He may have taken a week off to indulge in pizza but that obsession lurks under his skin. He's in no way done, though I think perhaps better prepared to enter this case than he had been, though of course he's billed as still struggling.

Dean also instantly recognises the Thundercats name, and I'm afraid it's something I'm just not familiar with, that I clearly missed some wave of it when I was younger and it hasn't come back around as an adult... I can't wait to read stuff by people who know more about it and say tragic things about Dean's connection to it. But the important thing here is the dark mirror to the guy who got beat up by the toy, because Dean is being shown as also an enthusiastic nerd who knows the franchise and is excited by this concept and is leaping into a case about it with a "strippers, Sammy. Finally!" level of enthusiasm.

Healthy nerds and unhealthy nerds. But at the same time, Dean might be a better nerd, but his anger last episode is still being examined through this guy.

I love that for Sam and Dean, dressing up for Halloween is dressing up like total nerds in a totally different pop culture way - the old appearance of geeks which is wildly outdated but damned if they aren't putting on pocket protectors anyway. It's a caricature but it's one that is at total odds with who they are as people... More of a traditional halloween thing where normally Sam and Dean are really scary people with weapons, so when you make them dress all topsy turvy, they dress like this instead. They ARE halloween costumes, in their day to day.

Dean continues watching in the shop, Sam eyes up the Red Hood.

I watched that a million years ago with no idea that Jensen was in it, though I had watched the first couple of seasons at that point. I think it was during my "aww the show was cancelled" phase where it was completely off my radar. It's hilarious to me now, because I don't think I COULD watch it, now I know Jensen's voice so disproportionately well. It would be so off-putting.

"She's like your twin."

Sam and Sam both tuck their hair behind their ears at the same moment.

"What are you talking about?"

So. This is going to be extremely subtle.

I hope New Sam survives the episode D:

Sam points out the other guy who people were saying based off the promo pics would be the Dean to this girl's Sam with no idea what was to come. He and Dean in this case are both eating lollipops purloined from the halloween candy.

I guess this guy in the All Saints Day t-shirt shares Dean's love of the same franchise, and seems to represent the bizarre venn diagram with Dean on one side and Andrew Dabb on the other. Their nerdy overlap.

I feel like Sam is just pointing out this character mirror to be an annoying sibling and wow do I love seeing them like this.

I also feel like there is no way Davy would do this if he wasn't about to troll the fuck out of us with these parallels in some terrifying meta way and pointing out that character parallels are a thing this blatantly is about to be Awful somehow.

The Red Hood is staring disapprovingly at them through all of this

Anyway of course Dean Parallel immediately recognises Dean's enthusiasm for Hatchetman and encourages him to press the button, which Dean does with glee. I CLOBBER EVIL. Wait no.

Sometimes we do bad things.

Oh dear.

Oh deeeeeeeeeeear.

Yeah, Hatchetman is like... idk, michael!Dean or something. Or some dark part of Dean where all his violence is and this twisted version is almost like the burned result of the I Clobber Evil hero being melted by Dean and - too meta, I am in pain.

"Vintage hot wheels!"

I know what you want because I have a smol 67 impala on my shelf. Nyoom.

He has an eeny weenie mystery machiney so he can make them race.

Okay guy who got beat up by a toy is called Stuart (I am so bad at names, honestly.)

Of course he got kicked out by his roomie for being insufferable about something as pointless as subs vs dubs, and Sam is already apologising for him before they even go meet him.

Considering there's 3 people working at the shop and Stuart had a trenchcoat, but is also being mirrored to Dean, darkly, I feel like there might be some serious shuffling going on here that surface level, Stuart had that Cas marker, but... yeah

Heeee Dean stealing the Flash mug and making Sam have the one with the cats all over it. One mug representing Stuart, one representing his mum.

I mean it is Sam's turn to have a relationship with THEIR mom this season. Idk if the mugs are actually symbolic over anything other than Dean living his best geek life right now.

I mean he's added the glasses to his ensemble, he's really living it up.

I hope he's still wearing Send Noods under this

Awww it's hot apple cider. What a good mom. This is a perfect halloween drink.

*Stuart Rage Sounds from below*

Wow this is subtle that he has some rage issues.

"Campbell and sons insurance" Hey remember when I said that this whole season's emotional set up with Sam's ownership of the AU peeps reminded me of season 6 and the Campbells? They also literally are the sons of Mary Campbell, so.

No lies, at least, with some serious stretching of the truth.

God, the detail that Dean has played Zelda.

He's being nerdy out loud constantly, and without much fear of judgement. It's wonderful. I guess he's been jostled up enough by Michael that he doesn't really care to hide this random pointless thing that in the grand scheme why should he be ashamed, and also he feels so much worse about other things that this is just an escape to have fun. It also reminds me of last season when he was mourning Cas except that this indulgence Sam is allowing him is co-sponsored by Dean and he's throwing himself into enjoying the smaller things and being more openly Dean-ish than he has in a while. Like, I don't think character comparisons to 8x11 for the nerds is the only way the episodes link :P

In 8x11 Dean's initial reaction to LARPing is that it looks awesome, then he corrects at a look from Sam to being more judgy. In 9x04 as scripted, Sam is surprised that Dean want to read Game of Thrones. So idk if that's just Robbie character interpretations since my 2 surface level examples are from his episodes or if that's just been where open nerdery has lived in past years, but anyway. Sam isn't stopping Dean from indulging in the same way - it seems he also recognises Dean's nerdiness and is less threatened by it than before, in the sense that he doesn't feel like Dean isn't acting himself, but now accepts the nerdiness is a part of Dean.

"Who needs goth girl drama" dude you are the most awful over-dramatic asshole on the show now Lucifer is dead

LOL he's trying to lie about being attacked by a toy now, and Dean points out that he got whooped so thoroughly he was beaten on the back and genitals - so yeah we look at his face and wiiiiince

"Lady you wasn't kidding."

"Big Bang in there..."

Goodness are we calling out the Big Bang theory for its toxic nerdery? Love it.

Sam and Dean halloween costumed as total nerds, still driving around in the Impala. The reverse of someone rolling up in a boring old modern car and, like, a bunch of Draculas get out.

Sam can shave off the beard but it can't stop him Bobby-ing

Dean side-eyes this

"Yeah, it was Riley, he'll be fine."

"I don't know who Riley is, but cool."

God, I am so into this whole dynamic.

Tell me more, Davy.

"So seriously, what is your deal with halloween?"

"I don't like it"

Dean, I am watching this episode on November 2nd, just so you know.

Anyway. This is literally. 1x01's opening adult Sam moment. But Dean's going back to poke Sam about it since he's someone Sam won't lie to in the same way that Sam was concealing his entire being from Jess. I mean this isn't subtle - in 1x01 Dean calls Sam out for doing this. But then, Sam doesn't exactly develop beyond it - in season 8 he does this with Amelia.

Because obviously if Sam is going to move forward and develop there's still things which are not addressed. And if Dean is having his idea of home and work challenged, and his nest disrupted until perhaps he will fly it... Sam has never ever actually addressed his work/life balance in the meaningful way where... like... this was how his difference was introduced when we first ever meet lil babby Sam smiling innocently at us on screen as a kid who has the whole future ahead of him and no idea what torment he's gonna go through. 14 years later, if he's ever going to be a grown up who can handle himself in a relationship and know what is work and what is life and how he can watch halloween movies and not feel personally offended by them but enjoy them as a fantasy and a way of boxing off their world into a safe place they don't have personal responsibility for...

Maybe he might just get a girlfriend who he can tell he is a hunter. Like. Dude. Dean was past that step before the show ever STARTED thanks to his time with Cassie.

Sam, also, metaphorically is an angry guy living in his mom's basement, but perhaps in a more metaphorical way where it's to do with living his whole life under the shadow of his mom horrifically dying as a result of the supernatural and being brought up feeling like a freak and just wanting to be normal and all

wheeee

Anyway Dean is probing for actual answers so I assume Davy will give us a solution to this this episode, but this is my take on it before we get into it properly.

Alternative hypothesis: Davy is personally offended that Sam doesn't like halloween despite it being the best holiday, is determined to fix that and fuck canon, characters can change even 14 years later.

"Don't give me this 'every day is halloween' crap because one it aint, we don't eat that much candy"

I have missed Dean and I love him with every fibre of my being, brb I need to vibrate out of existence at the sheer joy of knowing him

That was the worst "we aren't here staking out your house" move I have ever seen.

You are professionals who have been doing this together for 14 years

why was that so laughably bad?

The youtube comments are so cutting and a bunch of them are unfortunately true. It's self-awareness of using the loser nerd trope but also, cutting in a way because of course Stuart is coming across so much as someone who deserves it - and we're starting to see his mom is sweet and doesn't seem to have caused any trauma in a surface read, and that he was the one who dumped his online gf, and he starts other fights at work or with roomies, so this is getting more and more into territory where he seems fully to blame for his own situation, and therefore you CAN mock him for living in mom's basement, because he PUT himself there, and is single because he chose to be, and so on. The pervading sense that if he was a nicer person, none of this would be happening to him, right down to him stealing the toy in the first place.

Oh boy, the bloody handprint on the wall... We are back in handprint territory, and, you know, maybe because SOMEONE walking past it has been scarred on the wrong shoulder by the actions of an angel or something

There's a chinese take out carton on the shelf in this basement. I doubt it's a collectible.

Send noods.

Okay, that's sort of weird.

If the mom is in costume I don't get the reference. I hope someone else has handled that.

We're going to get her POV on her loser son now, I guess.

"Everything's fine :)" *leaves the room* "everything is not fine!"

Are we calling them out for using "fine" so loosely again too huh?

(Side note: Jack saying he's fine while consumptive, and yeah I am still upset about that. What are you doing to the boy????)

Dean and Sam split up and as Sam walks off a nurse eyes him up and smiles. No idea how intentional that was but I mean, can you blame her? :P

You know, I don't know anything about this franchise, but Sam just jumped to see a toy of a guy who looks weirdly similar to the vampires that ATE HIM a few weeks ago.

He checks over his shoulder in case Dean manifested at his side just in time to see that

Awww Dean and New Dean meet. "he must have awesome insurance"

He calls Stuart's mom "Babs" which is hilarious. They seem close.

New Dean has issues with his dad and Stuart lets him crash with him no questions asked. I suppose Dean isn't going to think too hard about how Sam's choice for his parallel has issues with his dad.

This forgiveness for Stuart's behaviour because he's kind to his own people is a very TFW trait, which makes New Dean more like Sam or Cas forgiving Dean his outbursts, as he's by far the ragiest of them, with Cas trailing in second and Sam the zen fucking master.

Lol Dean and New Dean are both dragged into the room to watch All Saints Day 3 like they're being pulled in on a line

Oh dear, they're bonding.

Davy isn't usually on top of these things but he's channeling a lot of Edlund today and Edlund always had these sort of guys like Andy or Aaron who are so Dean's type in a harmless shared interests and getting stoned together way. This is a bit extreme with the guy's tininess and scruffiness but you know, we'll see how this develops, if it's an accidental twins or a missed connections soulmate dealio.

... You're taking to someone who's still bitter that Andy and Dean would have been perfect together, so.

Also this New Dean guy is demonstrating how to be a Good Fan - he may be as intensely nerdy as Stuart, but he and Dean can compare movies and even though they don't share a favourite, agree that the whole series is great and can see the merits both in each other's favourites, and in another movie that isn't either of their favourites but could be if they happened to be inclined that way.

So healthy :')

"It was always nice to check out. I like watching movies where I KNOW the bad guy's going to lose"

Ow ow ow. But yeah, there's Dean's pro-Halloween rationale, that the tropeyness of the genre has its comforts that every ridiculous horror thing is entirely safe and no one is ACTUALLY going to get eaten by any of these things. Which is also how normal people enjoy horror but at the metaphorical remove of being scared by things we may not literally meet but still represent anxieties we might have in our real lives.

Catharsis, yo

Sam barges in on New Sam to ask her the usual series of increasingly weird questions which get the "are you really insurance?" eyebrows.

"Downtown Salem" - are they in Salem as in the witch hunt one?

I kinda love how New Sam is talking with a speech bubble beside her. So meta.

I think New Dean is called Dirk.

Oops Stuart wasn't one of the co-owners because he kept getting fired for stealing D: Stuart, dude.

"And you hired Stuart back?" "he's my friend"

I think there is commentary appearing here about not just Stuart's unhealthy explosive rage, but that the people around him enable it - even Jordan fired him TWICE rather than banish him forever. The cycle of coddling him without encouraging him to change... Again, this speaks rather more of season 10 and a critique of Sam n Cas from there rather than much currently ongoing with Dean. Sam was complicit in originally abducting Kaia and he and Jody didn't move to stop Dean with Bad Kaia, so though it's in the focus as a critique on Dean's reactions, I feel like the real bad cycles were in Carver era. Though the behaviour still somewhat exists in Dabb era, the overall unhealthiness has declined so much, there isn't a constant oppresive blanket of it as there is here in this shop with Stuart being so awful to everyone and self-destructive.

(It's probably also not a coincidence that this thing has latched onto Dean as well, a la 4x06 I'd guess... Sam got no ghost vibes in the basement, Dean did, and was attacked... To me this is seeming to suggest that his current state has picked up the ghost's ire in the same way in 4x06 he was vulnerable. Loops and loops of things going on so I'll unpick that later if it does turn out to be the case clearly.)

Anyway. This seems to be more about destructive cycles and abusive dynamics, and I would hope a nudge for Dean, though his exile at the start of this episode also suggests to me he knew full well after threatening Kaia that he'd overreacted and needed to take 5, even if there was also a layer of sulking until news of Michael. Her call out was clear enough to make him self-reflect. So I would hope that this episode is here to try and steer Dean's reaction through various pathways, ideally to keep him from falling into anything too awful, as a reminder of where this may lead?

Sam sees the glass case freeze over, and pulls out the EMF, playing it off and being like "nothing... carbon monoxide detector" even as New Sam is understandably a little freaked.

Is this messing with Sam's refusal to tell Jess about monsters by having him keep the truth from New Sam until she's physically endangered?

I mean, carbon monoxide in enough quantities to make the blatantly homemade gadget go "WHEEE" and light up every single LED is a good enough reason to flee the room

"I think you're in danger -" Sam is smacked around the head by Hatchetman because he delayed too long and now he has been knocked out

"Samantha?" Sam determined not to let New Sam out-Sam him

I mean if she is you then she has been knocked out

How does this keep happening to you

how much head trauma has Cas healed over the years?

This is why they have to keep him an angel...

"Is this expensive?" "Wha - no don't!" *BOING* *silence* "yeeeah it's shatterproof glass"

If Jordan really just wants to kill Stuart for getting them a 1 star Yelp review then this also has a weird shade of 11x07 where the ghost was getting revenge and took a few attempts to kill that one guy, eventually succeeding as the clown.

Except the clown was tuned to freak Sam out

and Dean's probably gonna be thrilled to fight Hatchetman

Dean having movie night with new Dean (probably stoned but we can't see it) with comatose Stuart in the middle

incredible

2 dudes watching horror movies 5 feet apart with a comatose guy in the middle because they aren't gay

Dean is thrilled to fight Hatchetman

I feel like this can't last

Davy throws in a gratuitous Halloween moment of Hatchetman walking through the park which is just bedecked in Halloween nonsense

no one cares about him wandering around because it's Halloween

It does make you wonder just HOW much nonsense happening on Halloween really is monsters and stuff out there enjoying themselves because it's expected, which, again, like Sam n Dean dressing up as nerds for this whole episode, having monsters mixing with regular folk and being treated as equals is literally the whole Halloween thing. There's less threat than in 4x07 because we're assuming at this point in the episode that the ghost does have a pretty one-track mind about killing Stuart because with all the characterising nonsense filling the episode the actual plot has been pretty sparse considering we're getting to the final 10 minute run now. So, yeah. This Hatchetman ghost is just out there being a part of the festivities, because that's what happens on Halloween, man

LOL And like Sam not telling his double until it was too late, Dean gets this call and is really open in answering in front of new Dean, and now he's filling in New Dean on everything instead of trying to get him to leave or protect him not just from the monster but from knowing about it at all.

Davy like, hey, remember when ghosts used to do loads of freaky stuff on this show just to be scary? And maybe it seemed like you all were getting bored of it or something, but hey this guy has no idea after 14 years that he shouldn't leave the salt line when everything starts thumping in the room despite having been warned the ghost is coming...

Hehehe Dean gets an axe... The moment of him going to smash it then not and checking if it's open... Whether that was improv or not, it's a good character thing in the sense that Dean is being encouraged not to smash first and ask questions later by the meta plot of the episode

Omg New Dean is as brave as our Dean in some ways... He sees Babs in trouble, and immediately is like "HEY" and starts confronting Jordon in Hatchetman

"He's MY friend. He's OUR friend." That's an interesting take on my/our, because that statement works on both levels - both that Dirk is protective of Stuart because he cares about him, but also that Jordan has his own investment in not killing Stuart that he should remember. In terms of emotional appeal, the first is confrontational while the second is the deep appeal to the ghost.

Filed in the deep deep deep deep deep flips of the crypt scenes, this moment demonstrates about 3 different kinds of flips, while still holding true to possessing thing out of its right mind confronting loved one

Omg the hospital security guards watching the Hatchetman chase a damsel through the hospital while New Dean is chased through THEIR hospital. Talk about dramatic irony and a whole commentary on the metaness of Dabb era in the story reversals and extractions to new levels and repurposing of scenes and narratives...

And despite it playing out scene by scene, the guards are laughing at the bad dialogue and pointing out how Hatchetman is so slow, so how can he even catch them, while the damsel slows herself down and badly fakes a trip so that he can catch up to her...

"We killed you! You're dead!" "We all do bad things sometimes"

And there we get the context for the cool quote the Hatchetman model can recite - just as how in fandom often things are quoted out of context as lines which seem emotional or special but are actually awful. Just for starters, all the Sam n Dean fans using "there aint no me if there aint no you" when Dean didn't even SAY that. Now we see the context of this line, we see that while Hatchetman really isn't deep, he's at least not just saying it to sound cool and talk about himself, he's judging the protagonist for her behaviour, as well as invoking relative morality. Which brings up some interesting ideas about what Hatchetman considers good and evil, in regards to seeming to have a concept of it but not including kill himself as a good thing to do. Obviously completely wild in context but in the philosophical language of the show, the nature of monsters and all is one huge question, along with if Sam and Dean are murderers themselves, and of course how they have done bad things for good reasons and vice versa.

Also I think Sam is about to blow up the door?

"I had a messed up childhood" he says, about to blow up a vintage SCOOBY DOO lunchbox to freedom.

SAMMY. Stop destroying symbols of childhood.

At least he's talking freely to New Sam about himself, which is probably already more than he ever let on to Jess. He really wanted to pretend to be well-adjusted to her, that he probably, like, would have rather waited for a locksmith with her than just pick the door to their apartment if they were locked out, you know?

RIP Scooby Doo.

"Cool" they both say, and share a smile.

It's probably weird to ship Sam and Sam just because the shipname is Sam

Dirk went to hide in the fucking Morgue

well done

Okay I need the security guards back to comment on how the fuck Hatchetman knew New Dean would come to the morgue with enough time to beat him there AND cover himself in a sheet and play dead.

Also before that happened Dean grabbed New Dean by the correct shoulder, and made him jump but aw don't worry it's just your new best friend.

Ghost Jordan is still a fucking nerd even in death because rather than talk to them, he presses the button to summon a catchphrase

It's good to know some things never change even when you are a murderous shell of your former self.

UGH SIGH DAVY ARE YOU REALLY GOING TO DO THIS TO ME?

(The director might also be to blame)

So now they are cobbling together a fake trailer for Hatchetman, using footage from the show

That is to say, Hatchetman is set on Oct. 31st, 1983, or, of course, 2 days before Azazel ruined everything.

I'm not sure if this shot is from the show because we have so few Halloween episodes that an exterior shot with Halloween elements would have to be faked up, but the house looks very much like the old Winchester house, but with a bigger porch and more dramatic features. It does, however, strongly feature the tree branch shadows over the appropriate wall to make it look exactly like the opening shot of their story, while this is the opening shot of the Hatchetman story.

"David Jaeger was an honest man making an honest living" *generic shot of something being worked on*

*shot of the back of John Winchester's head walking into his garage in 5x13 to discover his boss out cold because Anna is about to attempt to murder him, said boss hilariously visible in the shot if you know he's there*

So. That happened :P Hatchetman is John. That ain't subtle if you recognise the back of his head in a split second. Even if you don't they're casting him as a car mechanic which is of course directly connected to Dean and John.

"Until one night when a practical joke turned deadly"

*footage of the wife spectre-rage killing her husband in the cold open of 8x06 because she was still pissed he slept with someone else on prom night*

I think the burning vehicle was the car from 10x13 that Sam and Dean burned early in the episode, where it was violently reminiscent of them burning the memory of John for some meta reason I can't remember at the time, but definitely inspired a lot of frantic fandom typing.

Of course the ghost in that episode was the classic ragey vengeance ghost which was blatantly paralleled to the path Dean was on with the Mark of Cain, complete with being crypt scened out of it by a trenchcoat-wearing widow.

They're implying he was then burned alive and left for dead and I don't recognise the footage of the burned feet but I assume they're from some episode or another.

Anyway then they go to more new footage from the "actual" hatchetman movies. This one is set on Nov. 1st so it's not even a "Halloween" movie but ACTUALLY All Saint's Day (All Hallow's Eve being what Hallowe'en is a corruption of), Nov. 1 being of course a meta nod to the fact the episode is not even airing on Halloween but Davy just really really really really wanted his halloween episode so shut up and enjoy it :P

Oh, it's All Saints Day III The Reckoning. Because of course it's a reckoning. That's all that happens in Dabb era, reckonings.

I am so upset.... I made a joke about 5x05 waaay back, and now it's true because of the whole random thing about Dean's random Axe that was John's that Paris Hilton was going to use to Reckoning him but then Sam murderered her before she could. Now Dean's being reckoned.

Okay Dean is a lil dark right now but his come at me bro of "I was hoping you'd say that" and the preceding speech is incredible. I can't believe this show has Jensen except that I CAN believe that with Jensen we go 14 seasons because FUCK he's scary and intense when he wants to be.

But he delivered that chilling speech and then had the ghost use a red button to talk to him and then was badass at it

I mean

he can put the terror into ANY situation

I am a hysterical laugher, I could not have stood where Dean stood in that moment and taken Hatchetman seriously, even under threat of mortal peril. I once nearly got expelled for hysterical laughing over an untied shoelace that started a rapidly spiralling incident.

I love the new fight guy

I love how Dean is spoiling for a fight, and really enjoying how he can push back against this ghost, in a really, really scary way. But in a cold way, not the red hot Mark of Cain way he was dark last time. He's grinning and enjoying this nerdy ass fight, but it's got a vicious streak.

I especially love the choreography of Dean smashing Hatchetman around the head with clashes in time to the music followed by an elevator ding as Sam and New Sam emerge in the next scene.

Poetic cinema

New Sam guesses the key thing for ghost attachment and Old Sam is impressed.

Careful buddy, they're lining you up for replacement.

Dean seems not to have won this fight with the Hatchetman. I bet if Stuart was awake he'd have some useful advice for how anyone could beat him in a fight but especially Stuart, if they knew the correct thing to do.

New Dean saved Old Dean! Maybe we can teamwork distract the Hatchetman and win together. Possibly this is a metaphor for... working with yourself...

Is it foreshadowing for a fight later in the season of plot significance, just like in 11x07 Sam got beat up by a clown in a cage, as a not too subtle metaphor for Lucifer? I'd love an in Dean's head kinda nonsense with Mikey.

"Dean, key chain!"

TEAMWORK BROS ARE THE BEST BROS

New Sam chips in for her part with fuel for the fire.

Everyone high five the Sam or Dean/Dirk to your left

Oh, COOL effect of a ghostly spirit burning out of a model Hatchetman, who is unscatched by the ordeal

I mean, good, he's probably a really expensive collectible

He falls over with a thud, and goes out on a warbling "time to slice and diiiiiiiii" much like "I clobber evil" died on the fire with a last gutteral noise.

Hopefully bookending each other in terms of models with representations in their voices that haunt Dean and all.

Dean, unprompted, thanks Sam for getting him out of his funk and giving him an easy ghost hunt to win. I guess what 13x05 was supposed to be is what this actually turned out to be.

(Honestly, giving Davy episodes post-drama to let us all unwind is turning out to be an extremely good idea with 13x06 as well)

I am MAJORLY concerned about the time stamp on this episode. It better end in a few seconds and go to a full 3 minute trailer for Hell Hazers III or else.

"It was awesome!" "it wasn't really," says Sam, who burst into the room in time to see his brother pinned and choking

Sam moves on to confronting Dean with the concept of not just hiding in his room when they get back.

He gives Dean the "OI, CHEER UP" talk we've all been yelling at the screen. Good. Good Sammy.

Dean turns to the camera. "I'm never going to get over it. I'm just not."

Look, Sam, just because Dean stabbed Lucifer for you, and now you are sleeping without fear, doesn't mean everyone has that luxury :P

elizabethrobertajones Oh dear, there's still 4 minutes left er I guess I keep watching .... *grimaces nervously*

mittensmorgul :D just watch it in context with the rest of the episode

elizabethrobertajones um what I didn't get far enough into what happens next to know what you mean so that's super ominous Sam is still psychoanalysing Dean in car NOW yo uhave me REALLY worried.

Hey, remember how I started this episode with a vague warning from Mittens? Why am I now getting the feeling that I still haven't watched whatever that was about?

"I'm not doing any good cooped up in my room. So whatever you need, I'm there." ("Chief"?)

"Alright, Chief?"

Oh, man. I'm turning into Dean.

Also Dean appears to have, finally, ceded power over to Sam. Again, the reversals of season 10 - Sam was put in this position of power he just was not ready to cope with and not with the stakes that were laid against him. But here, Dean might be driving the car but he's putting all the real power into Sam's hands.

elizabethrobertajones Is it why Sam hates Halloween because Dean turns out to have set an alarm on his watch to remind him to bug Sam about it again the intrigue you have spun is starting to get to me more than actually watching the episode :P

mittensmorgul oh gosh, I should've just kept my mouth shut. It was seriously just an innocent comment for a nice BM scene :P

I am more horrified about the concept of Sam telling an embarrassing story than I am about any amount of slasher and gore. Look, I can Not handle social squickiness and I love Sam and that is going to make this extremely hard to hear.

Dean's gonna love it though, I can tell.

Please. Protect. Sammy.

"It was soooo bad" he says with a haunted look of a man who has been tortured by the devil

Andrea's party got there first

"Next year, we're doing halloween right"

Oh no, don't you dare start talking like you're going to be alive and ready for a party next year, Dean Winchester. I will perish in your place to make it happen.

BAHAHA Dean coming up with matching outfits and suggests Bert and Ernie, before rejecting that one as too weird.

Yeah, you might not remember but we do

We are never going to let you live it down, in fact.

Also, listen, his mouth runs miles ahead of his brain, that was not suggestive until he realised it was and backtracked

You also can't go as Shaggy and Scooby unless you go to a party WITH them and they go as you and Sam

Thelma and Louise... Dean, stop.

Okay it's hilarious that Davy managed to get both Bert and Ernie and Thelma and Louise into this like... somewhere riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight deep down Dean's consciousness is putting things together. It doesn't remember half the shit he says, but like. Hey. Why ARE those two sets of on screen pairs connected, huh, Dean?

Oh, whatever, he's just trying to annoy Sam now

Nyoooom

IT'S THE SECURITY GUARD

RUN, MAN, RUN

Ew, I left it playing to type that and it told me to watch Legacies

Well that was the one wrong note in this whole episode so I suppose something had to happen like that :P

#Davy fanclub #14x04 #season 14 spoilers #oh my god it's good to have the internet back #my stuff

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12x18 watching notes

Ketch is literally going to try and kill Dean just for saying that about his bike.

I know he seems deep and interesting and complicated to some people but that’s the facts.

In slightly unrelated news it turns out I have had this entire season sussed out since the day Robbie Thompson announced he was leaving and I cry-watched 8x13 while eating ice cream and realised Sam’s furniture-related hubris from 11x17 was going to get him one day because it had been a theme since they first met the MoL ever, but this is all escalating exactly as I have foreseen and it’s coming down to the most petty motivations you can imagine.

I’m as surprised as you are when I’m actually right when I make shitty jokes and predict an entire season a year in advance. :D

I actually have nowhere else to be today so I woke up early, watched Elementary while I waited for coffee to kick in and now here I am while it's still morning :D

Recappy all the BMoL stuff with a focus on Mom sleeping with Ketch, followed by our one sympathetic guy getting murdered by Ketch, and Umbridge pointing out the Winchesters suck to a clip of Dean wandering around with Lucille in the Bunker (listen I thought the whole thing was going to fall on Sam after years of him ripping up the wiring to install mini fridges and TVs, and putting his feet on the chairs, but nope at the last minute they shoehorn in a bloodsoaked Dean disrespecting the furniture which I'm taking a bitter Sam!girl stance on for no reason other than it makes me laugh that Dean yanked this one from under his nose)... Last thing we hear is that Ketch is going to come for them, and onto the cold open. Considering this is at least SUPPOSED to be a monster of the week (and I'm terrified of it) I'm like... deeply unappreciative of the total lack of warning.

I have a blanket though.

Idk if it was because the promo clip I saw (I think I may have missed one by noping out of this episode's promo stuff and going to bed last night because I don't remember a Dabb one) being the one with the Game of Thrones aliases but the kid Sam and Dean interview reminded me of Jon Snow... He looks even more like him in the dark wearing a coat with a fuzzy hood and it's making me laugh. He's not exactly a Jon Snow type personality though - like all we know of him right now is he likes watching his friends make out because he's kinda gross.

(I can never tell if scenes like this are What The Writer Thinks Kids These Days Do or What The Writer Did When He Was Kids These Days... I suppose either is revealing >.>)

Anyway hat buddy slaps Jon Snow on the shoulder and leaves him to it and I really can't make character parallels off this little info but I think hat buddy is wearing a red hat of the same style of plaid that both Sam and Dean have been wearing this season? It's dark though.

Oh good creepy goat mask guy/actual monster is watching

is that an axe or a hammer?

*retreats under my blanket*

that backpack is literally like an anglerfish lure, with the glowstick attached to it

oh yay it's full of money. You beat the trap, and the goat guy, you get a buttload of cash.

Monsters don't tend to use complicated traps though :P

I really really don't like the goat guy. Nope. Noooope. *adds a nope for every dramatic shot of him*

Anyway the first thing we hear is Cas's voice mail, with "THE MEMORY REMAINS" captioning it, so I've got emotional whiplash. Trauma from the goat guy to achey soul pains from Dean trying to get ahold of Cas still, wandering the halls of the Bunker and being miserable.

I mean he's *wandering the bunker* levels of miserable.

I could only find a bad download but I have a feeling Sam's pitying look when he hears the tail end of this where Dean is being all worried about Cas is possibly worse.

Oh NO Dean's been LOOKING for him. Including a standard "has any weirdo in a trench coat been arrested" google search which honestly I feel like should probably get more hits than Dean wants to deal with even if none of them are Cas :P

He's cleaning guns now, including reminding us of all the ancient MoL guns stashed under the table, which really makes me think about how the Bunker is possibly in danger because the BMoL have as many keys to it as they like and Sam and Dean don't know they're about to be hunted by Ketch, who really only needs to do a kill 'em in their sleep thing if he doesn't feel like making a grand entrance and villain monologuing at them. I mean it won't be good TV which is literally my only reassurance he won't do that, or at least they'll have a tip off and Bela him if he tries it (why are they always being nearly assassinated by Brits)... Anyway, the reminder that those guns show they are prepared to be attacked in their own home - but are they READY to be attacked in their own home? Dean cleaning the guns suggests maybe?

I still think this literally all goes back to Sam's hubris about 8x13 where we cut between them finding the Bunker for the very first time and Dean returning after a week of supply runs to Kevin and crap, walks in, and Sam's installed a mini fridge in the library already. Later Sam rolls his eyes at Dean wanting to get a pool table or whatever it was he told Cas in 8x22 but you started it Sam. (The next episode I watch with my mum will be 9x04, aka Sam is bored and stir crazy because Dean is keeping him in the Bunker, so he dives under the map table, and rips up several miles of wiring just to see where it goes.)

(11x23 was like... not that I'd been *waiting* for it per say but when Toni showed up and shot Sam and we'd recently seen Sam lounging with his feet on the furniture... I knew it was his own bloody fault he got shot and that moment earlier in season 11 had prepared me for it :P)

Anyway that sense of threat is coming back. We know there's SOMETHING they filmed right towards the end of the season with Dean wandering the Bunker with a gun in hand, so I am feeling like it's time to explore every scrap they give us about the sense of unease the BMoL give them about their own home, whether it's for us to know or them to feel.

Not sure Sam's got it even though Toni SHOT him here already, but Dean, at least, is cleaning the defensive weapons stashed under the tables and that makes me feel like he's at least HALF aware of it, and of course this season he is being shown rather more on the ball about stuff...

(This is what happens when you combine giving me the entire day to watch and a creepy goat mask guy I don't wanna see again - 15 minute free form essay on the Bunker vs Sam)

"He'll be fine. He always is."

Dean is like... yeah.

The other times he's dropped off the map include, not exhaustively

* being in the middle of an angelic civil war while working with Crowley * being mind-controlled by Naomi and eventually smashing Dean's face in * being possessed by Lucifer

So you can see why Dean's "yeah" is a wee bit unconvinced :P

Sam taps nervously on the table. Why do I always have to reassure Dean when I'm worried about Cas too? Do I even believe anything I'm saying or am I just saying it because that's what you do when Dean's worried about Cas?

Sam goes through all the books on demons. "It turns out we have a lot of books on demons"

Dean, who spent all of season 9, 10 and 11 reading every single book on demons to find info on Knights of Hell, the Mark of Cain, and how to get Lucifer out of your boyfriend, doesn't even look up from cleaning the guns.

Sam's emaaaail. Sadly I have a very low def download so I put in a request for more information which is my new way of saying good morning on new episode day:

elizabethrobertajones MITTENS I MUST READ THE WINCHESTER'S EMAIL I am pretty sure I can read some of it but I have a very very low def download but I'm pretty sure we have like 8 different stories underneath the one from "Mick" :P I can read "Dean: click this link!" (I think) which suggests Dean is perpetually sending Sam screamers or weird shit, Dean again which I think he used the email title line to say "You owe me for the gas I paid for last week"? then 2 Biggerson's emails including a monthly newsletter... are they keeping an eye because so much weird shit happens there, or have they been unwittingly signed up ever since they were the millionth customers and this is the long form version of the luck going bad? A life time of being plagued by it Sam has flagged this email he also flagged one which seems to say "Impala Owner's [something]" which says "I think I might have the part you're looking for" maybe he has to forward that to Dean And then Dean, "this is not a case IMO", Dean, "Professional Eating Contest videos" which I cackled at and Dean, flagged again, "question about that [something] research you were talking about"? I want to know more about everything but especially Biggerson's :P

Anyway insert fake shock about the case from Mick showing up from beyond the grave

[image of the anglerfish backpack]

Dean is having so much fun waving the Colt around and sighting down it and now fake-shooting it... I love how it seems to show him shooting forwards and then we go to Ketch checking HIS email (or... Mick's email) - Dean shooting Ketch? He's having so much fun with the Colt I am starting to feel like the narrative is going to have to sadly pat him on the head and take the gun away from him and let someone else deal with it.

NYOOOOOM *scrreeech* NYOOoooom

Straight to a sheriff with an interest in doing taxidermy at his desk, and Sam and Dean giving him at least 10ft berth, to suggest the proverbial pole has been deployed. Honestly is this commentary on how J2 hate the taxidermy stuff fans sometimes show them? Maybe 9x05 wasn't subtle enough about how it skeeves them out. Dean especially is hanging right the hell back, and I think 9x05 managed to establish it genuinely freaks him out.

Of course if it's a taxidermy goat head and the monster is a mask we're looking right at our guy. And he's got the big spooky eye through his magnifying glass... This episode is kind of dark and dusty and I love how it looks already. Somehow it just seems grimy from the like, 4 scenes I've seen.

If it is a guy in a mask, then Plush and Thinman are the episodes with overlap thematically. Promo stuff also suggested it might be a god, which the ritual pattern of disappearances going back a LONG time suggest. The 20 year gap, on the other hand, suggests to me a sort of legacy of being the goatman, and a child has taken up the super creepy mantle.

The makeout spot is called Weathertop so that's a Lord of the Rings reference, and an oblique sideways reference to Stranger Things, where the kids called the forest Mirkwood. Got a bearded sheriff dude in I think similar colours, although obviously he's super creepy with the taxidermy and so not sympathetic like our sheriff from that show.

Also 9x05 had the Joffrey Rat, which finishes the loop between all these references.

Oh boy, throw in The Chitters with the townsfolk apparently not caring about the disappearances, and having a good rationalisation for why the kid would have run away instead of being snatched. Of course if this guy is the goat man or helping him, then it gets a bit more complicated about why does it, not that it wasn't complicated in 11x19.

The kid was getting beaten by his dad, which is also pretty grim for telling us about bad parenting, which, of course, is a theme of the season just because Mary, and I guess Mary has all that coming for the long belated conversation about what her deal actually DID to their lives, explained in frank terms in the way you HAVE to have it on screen eventually even if you put it off all season in fear of what happens when you tell her the truth about how you were raised/raised yourself.

"Trying to take a kid from its parents, even if they're the worst people in the world... it's not easy."

(The only time we see kid Sam or Dean NOT under John's influence even when they're always alone when we see them, is 9x07 where Dean is purposefully ABANDONED and left to rot by John, and now I name-checked all the season 9 episodes in a row except 9x06 in that block of MotW, if we assume 9x08 has at least a tangential relevance if it IS a god :P)

Goes on to describe how Jarrod had to then spoonfeed his father after he became ill, and basically give HIM the duty of care that his father failed to give HIM, aka a really really blatant example of swapping the child/parent dynamic around, which shows the horrible duty of it all. And if you say this show isn't about the whole parental duty thing getting messed up and given to the wrong people, I'd say you never met Dean. :P In this case, Mary has basically been accused of running off and leaving her kids to look after themselves, or look after her messes in the case of the 12x12 hunt which became the focus of the argument ("Cas nearly died"!!) - basically in a way Mary parallels to Jarrod although of course Sam and Dean aren't exactly abusing her, just that they're the family she escaped, because there was a burden there she didn't want to deal with, and Dean saying he wanted her to be their Mom... Obviously I am analysing this sort of on the level of what I think the narrative has constructed about how they irrationally FEEL about it, not what I actually think the dynamic is or who deserves this sort of condemnation... Of course the parallel of the beaten kid and the father suddenly swapping around to be the burden on them works with Sam and Dean's entire childhood, and now the problem of how they relate to Mary, that she's now someone else for them to WORRY about and not fulfilling the "Mom" sort of role they might have expected.

Anyway final comedic beat to end it on like the sheriff has been happily making the taxidermied weasel thingy without really concerning himself too deeply on this problem. Sam and Dean kind of recoil, Dean somehow standing even further away than he was before while still standing in the same place.

Blah blah Dean and drugs subtext, probably talked over after this promo scene came out - "medicinal purposes" - also showing they're the cool feds who turn a blind eye, you know, if you give us the info we want.

But also of course, if Sam "oregano" Winchester did this exact same thing it would be a joke (hey, 11x19 again) while Dean doing it is like, duh of course Dean is chill with the stoner and has a wink wink moment about why you smoke, because he's ALWAYS been chill with the stoner characters for ~some reason~.

The factory he seems to work at has big crossed axe signs, I guess because of the tomahawk thing. It looked more like a hammer that the monster had? If it is a monster?

Dean is distracted in an OTT way by the waitress at the diner. The fact I have written like 15k so far of a not so mysteriously subtle project applying this to Destiel in an AU over the last couple of weeks is just making me laugh. Like, my head is full of Cas coming over with a coffee jug and Dean being like :D Hi! ... and now I have some extra visuals for this all in my head. Dean being a distracted dork by diner staff is my jam.

He likes that they smell like food.

Wondering if 12x12 is going to have more relevance here because of course this IS a trap set up by Ketch and idk how far he's going to let them get with the monster but he is totally around somewhere. Right back to the start of the season where they were being haunted by a motorbike. But anyway they all nearly died in 12x12 and a full 360 degrees around a diner table and a waitress interrupting the attempt to explain the plot is all being repeated in smaller scale here.

Dean does a goat impression

I like that the goat got downgraded from William to Bill. Got a lot of name stuff all of a sudden - the Michael and Mick thing from last episode.

"It's a shortened version of my name."

The waitress is getting way too much attention from not just Dean but the camera. Starting to think

[insert image of the anglerfish backpack]

For the first time in their goddamn lives Dean thinks to bring the Colt on a regular hunt. Like, they owned it at least for a space in season 3 where they were hunting monsters. Though some of these episodes were difficult to apply it to, 3x07 and 3x08 were pretty regular old monsters :P (It's a small window but it's enough to bug me that in the gap between Sin City and Dream a Little Dream, they never once said, hey, it might not be demons but you think the Colt might be handy? Even if we have no idea wtf is going on, we own this thing... Why not at least carry it and refer to the fact we are? OBVIOUSLY for storytelling reasons you don't WANT the kill-anything gun to be ruining the tension, but )

Of course Dean thinking he already knows how to kill the monster and telling Sam to be smart about it ("work smarter, Sammy, not harder") feels to me like it's got into a dangerous trap of thinking it's really simple and he has it all sorted. All they need to do is find it and Dean can kill it. He's waving around his phallic gun symbol, can't wait to shoot it off again, and thinks also he's got a chance with the waitress that the camera's been distractedly following as much as his eyes. Dean's NOT got it all sorted, and there's ALWAYS a catch, right? We're 9 minutes into the episode, he's not gonna hook up with the waitress and shoot the monster, and go home with a spring in his step because that's not how this works, even if it seems stupidly simple when you look at the elements he's got in front of him. Which, I guess, looks like what he thinks this life should be - hunting with his brother, badass gun in his pocket so he's the best in the game, and a pretty waitress who has been eyeing him up too, to seal the deal >.>

Oh jesus I'm with Sam about the coffee thing. "This coffee is hot, kind of like - " *finger gun and wink*

I'm genuinely feeling this from the POV of my fic. Poor Sam, trapped in the diner putting up with Cas and Dean.

Okay I edited in the this coffee pick up line but completely ruined because the terrible coffee AU is for fucking with the characters and also for Cas you have to ruin it to start with because if it all works they hook up and that's the end of the story :P

Poor, poor Sam.

Anyway, looks like not-Jon Snow going in the freezer (FREEZER, SEE? IT WORKS) with the PERISHABLES under the crossed tomahawks is maaaaaybe not gonna last much longer.

*jumpscare with his boss*

I feel like not-Jon Snow is probably not gonna make it

he's walking out into the snow

Oh gee there's a goatman in his mirror

Also AAA

Also they fucking killed him while he was lying on his back in the fucking snow.

Was he a reference or was my brain filling in the gaps after the Martell and Stark thing, the eternal question of how much I just read into it all :P

Anyway Dean's happy... Sam's got the, I'm happy for you but we do have a job to do, look :P

hahahah Dean complains that Sam didn't order pancakes... Welp at this point I am basically just laughing because this is weirdly following the narrative of my story except completely NOT. Like, if/when I post it there's definitely stuff already in it that my brand of plundering canon will make it look like that was also edited in after watching this. Oh well

At least I don't have a fucking terrifying goat man called Bill in it and I'm not adding him if you paid me

Dean stealing Sam's not-pancakes is probably saying something or other, for the endless analysing of what the fuck is going on between the brothers now - Sam's ordered his healthy breakfast and Dean steals it from him and tries it for himself after both their initial impression that Dean's not going to eat it. But he's hungry and rumpled from his wild night with the waitress, so... Egg whites and veggies is better than nothing. He WANTS pancakes but he's settling for this, the Sam-approved food that's supposedly good for him.

Now I'm just comparing food and sex again and wondering if Cas is pancakes in this scenario :P That Dean obviously really likes hot waitresses and Sam knows it too because he knows aaall of Dean's corny pick up lines. He's absolutely not complaining about eating this after considering that there aren't pancakes on offer right now... Though the stealing from Sam side of it worries me. Mostly because Sam has previously expressed feeling left out or that Dean's attention is stolen from him - I watched 8x23 too recently so it's bothering me again that Sam said all that about Dean trusting another vampire or angel. If it comes down to attention, of course the whole picking up the waitress scene was really about Dean's attention, and not listening to Sam, and the camera running after her along with Dean's line of sight, leaving Sam's attempt to work with Dean in the dust for where OUR focus goes too.

And now Dean's stolen his breakfast :P

I mean Sam doesn't seem resentful but I worry. >.> Because 8x23 showed how much that can bubble under the surface. Sam being jealous of Cas is foreshadowed as far as I could tell in season 8 when I did the miniscule picking it apart rewatch, in like, ONE scene in 8x08, but he still bursts out with his fear about Dean trusting another angel over him, like there's already one who's stolen Dean's attention... Sam is such an under the surface guy, who knows what bothers him day to day at the moment, but we're on another Cas is Gone stretch of the show, even if it's so far been 2 episodes and his heavily flagged but unspoken absence in 12x16. And it's Sam's job to reassure Dean that Cas is going to be fine, when he's supposedly both of their family.

Heh, there's a new beer called 3 Sheeps with a neon sign behind Sam.

I have a feeling that my instinct to yell about sheep is actually from my own original novel where a character keeps flagging up her friends' behaviour by just posting a sheep emoji in the group chat, so idk what it means here.

[insert gif of Cas in 9x03 going "what sheep?"]

Separating the sheep from the goats?

Meanwhile, more of 11x19 vibes - Sam telling Dean about how Pan would take people into the woods for an orgy, after Dean calls him adorable because he plays a flute - I tell you what I'm not over, Dean in 3x08 when they were trying to diagnose a pagan god, and this exchange:

SAM: (Reading an article on the laptop) Huh… When you sacrifice to Hold Nickar, guess what he gives you in return. DEAN: Lap dances, hopefully. SAM: Mild weather. DEAN: (Looks out the window) Like no snow in the middle of December in the middle of Michigan.

I pasted that far into the conversation because I'm still not over the fact they had to use that lore to explain why the Christmas episode, filming in the autumn, KIND OF LOOKED LIKE IT HAD BEEN FILMED IN THE AUTUMN, buuut here in the snow, you can do a full on Jon Snow death scene re-enactment with your terrifying goat god. A little bit of balance happening here :P

Uh, anyway. Dean liking the idea of lapdances from Hold Nickar, and orgies with Pan.

Buuut then everyone gets murdered.

Of course the opening scene was kind of like an orgy with all the couples making out - I don't think they'd have had sex especially as it was so cold, but still. They made quite a point of showing what goes on at Weathertop. Also, while we're on the subject - in 12x15, quite recently, Gwen's boyfriend was hoping she'd dragged him out into the woods to have sex.

Sam also manages to gross Dean out with the "full to bursting with their moist slippery meat" and I honestly don't blame him for shoving the food away :P Sam's tried to gross him out before (succeeded with the chicken feet in that first Buckleming episode in season 7). I wonder if, growing up as ghost hunting kids, grossing each other out with real lore and stuff is a sick game they'd play :P

Anyway if I hadn't mentioned enough this episode freaks me the fuck out and it has a great horrifying feeling to it. It actually feels dark and creepy.

Oh my god the useless sheriff owns the place and is running it into the ground. Heir to a meat empire and he just wants to play with taxidermy and being a big sheriff in a small town. Is he a fucking Trump reference :P

Eeew meat processing plant actually on screen. This makes me uncomfortable :P the meat's all hung up like our characters often get tortured and I'm assuming there's some parallels to make just with the concept of a meat processing plant and what the BMoL want to do.

Also if the monster is connected to the plant, that's a great place to work to get a ton of meat if you NEED to eat it, so you can go quiet with the killing for 20 years if health inspectors are after you to improve your old ways into more modern safter ways to do things

/might be a metaphor for hunting too

Sheriff has absolutely no plausible reaction to Black Bill, stammering over a reaction, then dismissing him as a boogeyman, and using the exact same excuse from 11x19 for why all the others left.

Aand sorry for all the references but Jon Snow wakes up drenched in red light, and of course his resurrection in the show was, well... red. :P I have no idea how many spoilers I should be giving away. This is preeeetty old news I think.

Anywho. Sheriff not suspicious at all for his words leading directly to this - yeah he's lying but there's the truth behind them as if he just somehow knows he's alive and sleeping off being attacked

Oh wow he appears to be in the freezer in the meat packing plant, what an unexpected twist.

"PERISHABLE" behind him again

LOL "Billhook meats" well then.

Also all the fake warning signs about a coolant spill and toxic chemicals to keep people from going near the freezer. Do you ignore the warning signs and push on because you could save someone? Sam and Dean walk riiiiight past.

This is basically a lesson what dramatic irony is.

mittensmorgul New: Frodo: take a look at this Dean: Click this link! Dean: You owe me for the gas I paid for last week Biggerson's: New loyalty program member rewards

elizabethrobertajones I KNEW IT

mittensmorgul Biggerson's: Monthly newsletter

elizabethrobertajones they are part of Biggerson's cult

mittensmorgul (the subtitle on that one is "Visit our new location in Duluth Impala Owner's Group: Re: I think I might have the part your looking for (it says "your" I'm transcribing it exactly, not making typos) :P

elizabethrobertajones Okay I am curious about why Sam had that one :P maybe it's their shared account but the rest is all Dean trolling or bothering Sam

mittensmorgul Dean: This is not a case IMO (I can;t read the rest on this line, will come back to it with a different frame) aDean: Professional Eating Contest Video (this competition ends _____) Dean: question about that lore research you were talking about

elizabethrobertajones Gosh I love the details like that that make them feel like real human beings :D

I think Jon Snow is about to realise the meat is people?

Nope it's his poor friend, frozen and mutilated.

Oh boy, Bill does not have human hands.

*ketchups*

well this episode is rapidly becoming a top 10 Do Not Watch While Eating

the burger right after a meat processing plant is also really uncomfortable - Dean says he's hungry in there, and cheerfully goes to eat a burger after missing the giant warning signs that something is Not Okay, and the ketchup splatter is a vivid way to convey the death - and Dean's *eating* it. This episode he's in full on Dean mode, which is never a good sign. He gets like this when he's NOT doing okay, and this turns his attempt to eat a regular old meal really horrifying.

(Ketchup also linked to Cas - "is ketchup a vegetable" - Dean counts it as one and he's definitely getting a good amount of his five a day with this burger, instead of the healthy food he stole from Sam)

"Grow up, Sam. 'Kay, burger's beef, bacon's pigs, soylent green's people, but this - this - this is heaven."

Now I have a Mittens awake, she's pointed out the big BS signs in the diner, which I think sums up everything I was going to say about Dean's mood. :P

He's got 2 burgers here in his speech - the hypothetical one that's beef, and the "But this is heaven" burger which is the right now burger.

Of course, burgers are so associated with Cas, from 5x14, which I feel like it's always inevitable that it's going to get mentioned sooner or later, and 10x09. And they make Cas very happy. And burgers are linked to Dean and his humanity and soul - in season 3 he's eating a bacon cheeseburger for breakfast because why not. In season 8 and 9 they're linked to his descent, so that Crowley mentions it was the fact he didn't eat one that tipped him off that Dean was really truly lost when it came to his humanity.

Not sure entirely what it means here, but I think Dean trying to signal normal and healthy and fine is a good start, that this is the Default Dean - waitresses and burgers and all

"Maybe they just run an evil petting zoo on the side" I mean they've met weirder

If the Bishops owned all the town, then no wonder everyone who got killed worked there.

I mean I suppose there would always be some services like shops and post offices etc to support a town but... yeah.

I guess even a town built for everyone to work in one place doesn't mean the ENTIRE populace works there. Shh Lizzy.

Gosh looks like Ketch is invading the Bunker already, for info gathering. This is not at all like 10x22, and

ELDON So this is what I know about Dean Winchester. He's got crappy taste in music, got a hot mom, and he loves flannel.

Basically what Ketch might think already :P

Oh my god "How does Sam get his hair so shiny" you can't lampshade this. You CAN'T FORESHADOW THIS WITH THE FANCY SHAMPOO LINE

when I heard Andrew Dabb was gonna take over the show, I think a line exactly like this is preeetty much what I was expecting at some point or another - weirdly foreshadowed, fan-servicey, and repeating another Dabb episode but flipped upside down :P

He also mentions the "ratty flannels", which, rude.

Creeeeeepy house *pulls blanket over my head*

"We just got lucky"

Creeeeepy basement in the creeeepy house. You only put that many locks when you really don't want something to get out

Did Dean shoot the Colt when the light blew? Nah, he just jumped and raised it.

Why is the Sheriff coming to his creepy empty house right now

*weary sigh* "Why's it always the rich ones? I mean, what are they like, 'Croquet's alright, but cha know what would be great? Murder!'"

I officially love this interpretation of Dean Winchester so much

Possibly because I spent ages trying to edit out him saying "I mean, [x] is like," of everything I write all the time and keep forgetting that there's always the possibility I picked up the verbal tic from him :P

Sheriff keeping his keys for his murder dungeon in a hollowed out book. Being the one to do the walk down the stairs with his gun out, but being caught out by Dean, who has the Colt on him.

"It's not what it looks like" "Really? Because it looks like a straight up murder room to me"

*rescinds previous love of Dean so I can apply it again*

Maybe the sheriff is just being blackmailed by the goat

"my family has a secret" "well, the best ones do"

It's a monster in the basement that made them rich, as long as they fed it human bood. Well that sounds like a creepy fairy deal to me, at least with the making them rich thing.

Goat dude is just a dude. I like that they invent another monster to do it.

Also he had the taxidermy skills to maintain the mask - knew it

ooops and then he tried to put a stop to the dark family of the history, and loses all his money bit by bit and the town dies, and now people are getting killed again

"I just wanted to help people, to make up for all the bad we've done" well that's an extremely Winchester thing to say, at least when they're feeling guilty and motivated to repair things from their dark legacy, rather than just hunting to do it to save people because that's their job and they're good at it. Sam especially is motivated by this, but Mary, of course, with her deal, started the guilt on the family (though of course the whole being manipulated by angels and demons to start the apolcalypse since literally forever may have a bit more to do with it :P)

And he wanted to leave a legacy

Wow, he kept the god locked up hoping he'd starve to death - not sure that's how it works

I hate this with Sam leaning over to look in the hole. Dean with the Colt is nowhere near close enough.

Dean "I kill gods" Winchester goes to investigate

I ALSO HATE THIS WITH DEAN EXPLORING

OH NO EYEHOLES IN THE MASK SHOT

AHHHHHHHHHHH

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

NOPE

Well it's an empty suit, and an empty bed beside it.

Is it in the mirror -

no there's a guy behind him

AAAH

Dean gets punted through a dust sheet and down the stairs

Going through a dust sheet is never a good idea.

Is he dead, like, dead dead?

Sam gets locked in the murder basement while the bad guys all gain the upper hand.

I'm legit terrified :P

I mean they honest to god got the drop on the Winchesters in a way that didn't make them look stupid, but the bad guys look powerful and scary

Wait, is Sam locked in it? This is happening too fast. Where's he thumping from? *rewinds again*

OH the guy in the suit rushed down the stairs and locked Sam in WITH the sheriff

who... is helping him

huh

okay, so they are apparently working together.

I am so not sure I trust this

ooh Bunker montage. Light hearted music.

I am pretty worried the Bunker's days are numbered - I say that this time almost every year, because it becomes the centre of attention and this exact same thing in 10x22 made me convinced it was all going to get torn down.

But in this case, Ketch lampshades as well that you can't see a damn thing out of the telescope, which has been one of the big mysteries of the set since it was first introduced, so I feel like they're pretty much done with it now :P All the mystery is gone. Their home has been invaded again and again and is it even safe to set up shop here?

Honestly this might be an anti-Buckleming measure if they're getting rid of the Bunker, just because it would force Sam and Dean to be a bit less reliant on a home base and the googling in 12x08 was so bad I would consider burning everything down in order to force their episodes to be more dynamic >.>

I will miss Dean having his own room

Ketch invades Dean's room, in a long line of people invading that room...

He finds the porn, and very carefully separated from it, the photos of Mary. I'm pretty sure Dean's bedside table is filled with candy. Ketch looks at the photo of Mary, looking exactly as she does now (as she's, like, a few months older with a different haircut) holding toddler Dean, and has the most priceless face I've ever seen. I mean, he's kinda fond of Mary, maybe? Maybe that's a weird moment of softness? But I'm also pretty sure that's "wtf he's a TODDLER and she looks the SAME is she the person that dermatologists hate??"

Meanwhile Dean isn't looking so good

is he wrapped with saran wrap

Well I think they've finally found a way to tie up a Winchester and also keep him fresh in the fridge for months

"You got a lot of jokes" "right now that's about all I got"

I had to go for a walk which meant leaving Dean in clingfilm. He's right as I left him, deeply unimpressed :D This stuff is good.

"I'm a Bishop. That's what we do, right? Hunting people, killing them! The family business!"

So that's so many families over the years, from the Benders in season 1, to the Steins in season 10 who are being mirrored by the BMoL who see themselves as a messed up family, and then the Winchesters when they've strayed, have also done the family name a disservice. A dark mirror to their entire family, with these half-brothers, same father, different mother. I guess Sam and Dean both have a wildly different idea of who Mary is, going back to 1x01 which showed how Sam has a hypothetical idea of her and Dean has a sacred memory, which makes them speak of her very differently. Or, you could say, Sam was raised by Dean as his mother figure instead, and Dean did a very different job than his own void in the shape of the memory of Mary, represented by those photos Ketch was enraptured by...

Also this guy wants to save the town by some sacrificing but for the greater good. Right up to sacrificing his own brother.

Dean's left in cling film in the fridge.

Lol

Hehehe Ketch saying "Bugger"

"I could use a pint!"

Ahaaha Dean in a wheelie chair

oh he got out the cling film.

Now he's banging on the door that they ignored earlier.

We just saw a "danger sharp blades" sign so I'm now hoping that comes back into play :P

This is still scary because right near the end we don't know what the actual monster looks like, in so many words.

Dean gets himself a large hook. Nice.

Owie, Sam got hit in the head with a large mallet

Oh dear, brothers confronting each other while Sam is out of action and Dean hunts the monster/is hunted by it in the next room

Brother feeling under appreciated when asked to stop, blurts out that all he gets in his life is the crap - the second hand, failing, run-down stuff. "Not any more, I'm saving this town!" he shouts, waving the Colt at his brother. "I'm the hero!"

shheeeeeesh

On the sheriff's badge the tomahawks are crossed, raised. On the meat packing plant logos, they seem to be hanging down if I remember right?

Sam gets in a second Colt kill of the year

Dean is looking seriously beat up and defeated, and got basically no easy kill that he wanted.

The sheriff sits gloomily by his dead (evil) brother, and says this is his legacy. He chose to end the family legacy of evil, and wasn't tempted by it, despite being super creepy and weird I guess those are just personality traits because this was a very dark mirror where a brother dies, at the hand of another (right after the Michael thing last episode where Mick had to kill his best friend and of course we have Ketch cheerfully wandering around clearly also a graduate of the exact same fight...) - anyway even though Sam killed the God and ended the ~cosmic~ suffering on the town, the Sheriff had to kill his brother to end the direct threat that it would be used and people would die directly for it. I mean leaving the god and hoping it starves is a bad idea because that's essentially what God did with Amara.

Thing is, with Mick dead but Ketch still giving them orders like he is alive, the Winchesters are working in a place where working with the BMoL has already blown up in their face and they have no idea yet that this decision hasn't worked for them; at the moment they've just lost their privacy to them but they're in a LOT of danger and clueless to it, though, as I said, Dean was cleaning the under-the-table guns as if half-prepared for the worst.

Awww home sweet home

BMoL listening in: "next time you hear me say that our family is messed up, remind me that we could be psycho goat people"

... "I have no idea what just happened to them but their lives sound interesting"

Dean that mini fridge is cursed. That mini fridge is why your home is bugged and your safety compromised.

I hope those cold beers are worth it, Sam

"What do you think our legacy is going to be?" Oh don't ask the heavy questions before you've even had a drink :P

Sam has completely obliterated the Winchester Gospels from his memory. Smart. He doesn't think they'd be written about in the history books and frankly he doesn't even want to deal with the fact 5 years of their lives are pulpy horror novels

"That's fine, because we left the world better than we found it"

Ketch listening in "I'm gonna go kill these emo fuckers right now before I shoot myself"

Oh my god this is why they get shot by the MoL this blatant fucking disrespect of their property

I mean, sure, brothers nostalgia but seriously this whole thing started because Sam was installing mini fridges willy nilly, and now they've ruined an antique table

Like, the BMoL's Code probably has a whole section on what to do about asshole hunters who ruin their property.

If you can't tell I find it kind of adorable that Dean decided to do that although the Swan Song flashbacks were a little on the nose and I'd have liked if they could trust us to remember that for ourselves, especially since it still doesn't explain that those flashbacks were FROM Swan Song if you're a super casual viewer it's still just them as kids reminding you they did that to the car as well once.

this whole conversation has a pretty nostalgic feel that the show is going to come to the end of its run sooner rather than later, which, when you're in season 12, you really have to start thinking about and writing towards, which I guess is why SO much has been tied off neatly with a bow this season.

Does make me vaguely worried about the Sam and Dean kamikaze ending but there's always room for one of them coming home without the other and looking at those names on the table or something. it moves it from the car to their home, which means they can now use that instead of the car for a nostalgic kick in the face at the end of all things to show us they're moving on and call this place home.

Ew, Ketch is just like, Mick got on a plane and left.

I hope Toni wasn't actually murdered, and there's like the Hot Fuzz bit where Sam or Dean or Mary drop into the dungeon of the castle and there's literally everyone who pissed off the neighbourhood watch for years in a big heap of corpses and skellingtons with a great big bushy beard. But the equivalent for Mick's stubble and chest hair

Ketch is like "I'd rather be with your mother" - I think they are trying to show he's caught nostalgia

And mentions a chupacabra which I'd been wondering about when all we knew about this episode was goats but quickly became apparent before we got to the episode that it wasn't gonna be so I'm awarding myself half a point for that anyway. They have goats on the brain.

Or chupacabra is a goat-sucker, or something that prays on goats. Sam killed the goat god, but Ketch has orders to kill them.

holy shit he stole the Mary picture. That pic has been used for SO FRIGGIN MUCH over the years it's like a literal hostage situation right now over a PHOTO.

Dean slagging off Ketch's bike in the background despite the fact he loved it when he first saw it. He’s like fuck you and the bike you rode in on

without knowing it

beautiful :’)

I think Dean slagging off the bike is probably another tick in the box where I think he and Ketch are going to be the ones to fight it out in the end.

#12x18 #season 12 spoilers #my stuff #look at this effin table

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