#there's a lot of batman stuff here tbf but sometimes i just need to be basic

[navree]

WIP Tag Game

stole from @laurelsalexis

Wip Game Rules: Post the names of all the files in your WIP folder, regardless of how non-descriptive or ridiculous. Let people send you an ask with the title that most intrigues them, and then post a little snippet or tell them something about it! And then tag as many people as you have WIPs.

corporate espionage

new messages

sons of the father

iapyx

debt never promised

sacrosanct

of gods and kings

fata morgana

made lame by fortune's dearest spite

birthday ver 2 (update life?)

campfire dreaming 

garland and chain

Tagging: anyone who wants to

[overclocksaa]

anon / Was Jarvis like Alfred to Tony? I always thought Jarvis came late into Tony’s life. He is not super old in the comics. 

tbf, anon, tony’s only in his late 30s/early 40s in the comics, he’s not at all like his mcu counterpart, became iron man at 22/23, so think about it that way.

so, full disclosure:  what i know of dc period comes from the michael keaton batman movies, the animated series, the arkham games, and that one time i read killing joke.  i just have never really gotten into dc the way i did marvel so my knowledge of alfred as a whole is very limited.

however, i can tell you about edwin jarvis, because i love him.

so, edwin jarvis is very much alive in 616.  these days he’s semi-retired, and has featured a whole bunch in the unstoppable wasp with nadia and jan (nadia often refers to him as her grandfather), and pops in and out of avengers stuff still.  here are some basic facts about him:

+ born in brooklyn (he’s not british) + joined the raf and stayed for many years + was hired on by the starks at the very least when tony was a wee baby + takes care of his aging, ailing mother whomst he refers to as a battleship because she’s pretty tough + is considered an avengers member because he’s served in some capacity or another for years and years + has had adventures all on his own + loves elizabethan poetry + loves literature in general + was once replaced by a skrull and kidnapped luke cage and jessica jones’ baby, dani

jarvis as a whole has basically been a part of tony’s life since he was very small.  he and maria both fought howard on sending tony to boarding school when he was seven, he was the one who read tony bedtime stories and encouraged his creativity with his building (which tony discovered at age five).  we see lots of flashbacks from tony’s youth that contain jarvis and in every one he’s serving in a parental role because - again, not disparaging maria stark - but tony had very absent parents otherwise.  he’s very obviously been an influence on tony as a person for a very long time, and it’s presented without outright stating that he and tony are to be viewed as family.  the formality of him calling tony mr. stark is really just for formality’s sake, when you come right down to it.  but anyway, jarvis was the main parental figure in young tony’s life and he’s the one that stuck with tony when his parents died once he’d reached adulthoood and took over the company.

jarvis has also served in a support role for all of the avengers since day one.  he’s been there for every major avengers event in their history, waiting at the curtain’s edge with coffee and aspirin as needed, and sometimes has been swept up in the calamity, as well.  people who say jarvis is just a butler may not see that he is that, yes, but he’s also been a confidant, source of support, an understanding and sympathetic ear, a moral goalpost for those that have needed it, and a keeper of secrets.  and he does it while managing to feed a superhero army and distribute the mail properly to each member.  basically what i’m saying is that while jarvis is in a support role, sure, he’s just as much an avenger as any superhero that’s walked through the mansion or tower doors, and he’s had just as much an influence on their history as any costumed member.  i can’t think of an avenger that doesn’t love him, even clint.  even if clint did used to do 6am flybys on his house with a quinjet.