#then there's also the question of why monotv would even give out the secrets of the dead to the living participants
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momentomori24 · 1 month ago
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I'm currently catching up on the new episodes for the 2nd trial and I'm currently at this point so before I continue I'm putting this out there: NEITHER of these are Teruko's secret. The one at the top is Min's, the one at the bottom is Xander's, and the one David received about "you have too many secrets to choose from, the killing game is all your fault" is actually Teruko's and I will DIE on that hill. I don't care how hard this game is trying to gaslight me into thinking otherwise, I think Min and Xander's got each other's motive secret. This begs the question on why David lied and said he got Xander's instead, but we'll see (or I'll see because I'm super late to the party).
Obviously, I could just be delusional and one of those two really does end being Teruko's, but honestly I won't trust that conclusion until proven waaay beyond a shadow of a doubt. David's not trustworthy for obvious reasons, so that makes me doubt the truth about his motive secret even more. I equally don't trust Teruko for not calling him out on it cuz surely she has to have known he lied. I will especially not trust her for claiming one of the two to be hers, because that means she has something to hide. Again, I could just be wrong and the mastermindy motive is actually Xander's and not Teruko's and I'm seeing shadows where there aren't any, but I've been tweaking for the last hour about this and I'll be so happy if I end up being proven right.
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a-star-that-burns-brightly · 5 months ago
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I've already brought this up in this post, but I absolutely believe Hu ended up telling David what her secret was and why it made her so uncomfortable (presumably because she more than likely has the hopeless child secret)
Hu: I have to be the one to give everyone guidance. That's the only thing I can do. If no one relies on me, then I won't be useful anymore. Hu: You knew how I felt, and yet you... You... Hu: You toyed with my heart!
Like, let's really analyze this dialogue for a second. Why would Hu say that David knew how she felt, why she acts the way she does, unless she told David herself? David is not a mind-reader, he can barely handle the things going on in his own mind. So the only way I can see David knowing about this is if Hu told him herself. Throughout all of Chapter 2, David is constantly pressuring others to tell their secrets. Especially in CH2-6. And that is made especially apparent with how he handles Nico's forced-coming out
David: I know this isn't the ideal time for me to do this, but... David: Nico, do you know what your secret is? Nico: [Sniff] Hu: He's clearly upset. Don't bother him with your questions. David: Part of me thinks that this conflict between Ace and Nico stems from the position of power Ace holds over Nico for keeping his secret. David: If that secret was exposed, then Ace would no longer have that edge over him. David: Nico, can you reveal your secret to everyone? Nico: W-What? Nico: I...I don't want to. David: I know it's difficult to reveal a secret that mortifies you, but aren't all of our secrets going to be revealed in 2 days anyway? I don't think it matters much if you do it now or later. Nico: ... David: Unless you're thinking that the secrets won't be revealed at all? Nico, don't tell me that you-- Nico: Okay, fine!!
David: So then, revealing your secret was a good thing, right? That way, you won't have to be misgendered anymore. Nico: ... Nico: I wasn't ready. David: This is definitely an improvement. It's good for everyone to be open with their secrets.
Nico: Hey I don't think I was in any way shape or form ready to have this part of my identity that I've been ostracized and bullied for for my entire life to not only be outed in front of my classmates but to what is presumably international TV David: K, so anyway :)
He even does this specifically to Hu later in this scene
David: Hu? Hu: I'm sorry, but my secret is something that makes me uncomfortable. David: Even though it will be revealed by MonoTV anyway? Hu: Perhaps it's not an admirable thing to do, but I'd rather put it off for as long as possible. I apologize.
I also have no doubt that David and Hu had some time alone. Teruko left the Relaxation Room, and considering the fact that Nico was planning a murder and also...is reasonably pissed at David
Nico: But David is really suspicious. He's always been really pushy on getting people to reveal their secrets. Nico: And he can do that only because he revealed his own secret first. That way, he doesn't look like a hypocrite. Nico: But if he lied about his secret, then he can just pretend he's in the right. And then other people will follow his lead because it's "good" to share secrets. Nico: And, um, I'm not just saying this because I'm mad at David. Really.
(they say after basically recounting word-for-word what happened to them)
I don't doubt they would've left at some point soon after Teruko given their personality.
Which would leave David and Hu alone to have a conversation about her secret, to which Hu would most likely fall victim to the same pressure Nico did, and reveal what secret she got.
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You only took on your talent to distract form your incessant need to harm yourself for fun.
I bring up this frame in particular, by the way, because I find the difference in how she talks about not sharing her secret very interesting. In the Relaxation Room scene, she describes the act of not sharing her secret as "not an admirable thing to do". Here, she straight up calls it "selfish". It's almost as if someone implanted that seed in her brain to pressure her, wonder who that could be.
Along with this, she would also probably explain why she felt so uncomfortable sharing her secret as that was also something David tried pressuring her to explain, which would lead to her talking about her experiences and reasoning for why she is the way she is, which as we have commonly theorized, is most likely in line with the secret Veronika received
You were quite the hopeless child. Dying once wasn't enough, so you attempted suicide three times.
Which David would put together based on the secret appearing on the board. And that's why he taunts her over it.
David: And in spite of how easily you'll spill other secrets for the sake of "peace," you're still too much of a coward to admit your own. Hu: I...that's not what... David: What's wrong, "Julia"? Go ahead and share your secret. It can't be *that* bad, can it? Or is it worse than mine? Worse than Nico's? David: Or could it be that you're actually not as noble and strong of a person as you make yourself out to be?
He is the only person in the room who not only knows what secret Hu received, but knows why she won't say it out loud. He knows her secret and he is hanging it over her fucking head like a carrot. He knows how she feels, and even still, he toyed with her heart.
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