#thelantis

[lirri-eats-eyes]

okay i want to talk about this more bc it was important to me. i know skyborn's ending felt rushed to me specifically, but after rereading it, it isn't necessarily unrealistic. ellie is a serial optimist and she's known for being stubborn, so with things looking up for her, it makes sense that she would want to embrace this ideal new setting and not think too much about the past, with nox still being her foil (he's more reluctant to fit a role in society, even in this Totally New and Better Perfect one)

i recognize the fact that the new thelantis might need a force to protect corion/other royalty since tensions are still probably running high with the rapid transition of power, and maybe they need a force to help with rescuing and construction, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth that there's still effectively an organized police force after there were two whole books instructing us that That's A Bad Idea, Actually. It honestly feels like they're continuing the tradition because they don't know how to rule in any other way, and again, that makes realistic sense. But there's probably more change and instability to come even after the ending which is painted ideally in Ellie's final POV.

I think this specific conflict is bound to happen because both Ellie and Mother Rosemarie are changing rapidly near the end. Ellie was already orphaned at a young age, but she was also tasked with literally Saving The World at what, age 12-13? There's that weird combination of "you weren't chosen because you were special, don't let it get to your head" and "you were right about a lot of things actually, and no one listened to you even though they should have." She's been forced into this role of a leader and a fighter against the entire world, and it takes an extremely visible toll on her mental health by the third book. She longs for any adult to just listen to her and take on her burden instead. At the same time…she can't be comfortable in a child's role anymore. She understands her own power and won't hesitate to enforce it, something most kids aren't allowed to do. She'll be stuck in this weird in between where she wants nothing more than to be cared for, but she doesn't want to be coddled.

Additionally, she's seen a lot more things than most of the adults in the sparrow village have never dreamed of, so it's hard to see where her travelled experience ends and where their lived experience begins. She's going to be frustrated at the lack of knowledge Mother Rosemarie has, but she's also not going to listen to the valid advice Rosemarie can give her.

Mother Rosemarie, on the other hand...ok this part is more speculation but I see her as someone who was an extreme realist when it came to the tangible power her people had as second-class citizens; she reasons to herself that no, she doesn't actually think sparrows are weak, but as things are, there's no way one could become a goldwing, and that's unfair, but there's nothing she can do about it. and maybe that turns into "well, maybe what they're saying about the biological difference is true" and "we just don't have the right temperment; it's not in our culture." Maybe part of her feels protective about ellie because of a possible similarity -- maybe she sees ellie as a younger her whose dreams are inevitably crushed.

By phoenix rising though, she breaks through that line of thinking and recognizes the true power of the sparrow clan, and is completely on board with ellie's plan. There is this new appreciation for her culture that she's never been allowed to tap into, and it must be so cathartic. To finally be proud to call oneself a sparrow, to believe in the dreams she repressed early on. Perhaps a bit too invested in this idea, and that's where this conflict begins

There's also a bit of old dialogue that we have to consider. Ellie feels betrayed by mother rosemarie as only a kid can. you can only hear "it's for your own good" so many times before you never trust other people to be invested in your wellbeing again. Mother Rosemarie feels like Ellie is naiive and doesn't acknowledge her status as a sparrow and consequent status in society, maybe even feels like Ellie, who wants to be a Goldwing, is ashamed of her species and the barrier it creates for her. This is never addressed by the end, and all I know is that if there's a problem as big as that, it's rarely ever going to be taken to someone's grave.

so, there's the crux of the issue. Ellie doesn't respect Mother Rosemarie's real experience and power because she's been forced into a role where children have to hold the power or else they all die, and she doesn't trust an adult to properly wield that power anymore. She takes something like "I'm concerned that so much pressure is being put on you, how about you take a step back before you burn out?" as "I'm holding my authority over your head because I feel like it." Mother Rosemarie is riding the high of her newfound empowerment as a sparrow, failing to notice that Ellie has baggage when it comes to pride in one's species*, and inaccurately reading any baggage as straight-up shame. This is compounded by the fact that neither of them are listening to eachother, Ellie because her conclusions have been validated many times and she's still learning how to properly interact with people who disagree with her, and Mother Rosemarie because she's misinterpreting Ellie's words as rhetoric that has kept her down for most of her life and has only recently been disproved. They both feel like the other is very far behind.

*this is also a headcannon. Throughout the story Ellie remains connected to certain parts of her culture like sunflower oil for her wings, or even arguably her way of problem solving or her morals, but culture isn't just substances and traits. It's also the people; and the people haven't been perfect to Ellie. No doubt she feels connected to the community that raised her, but it was also the community who kept her down for so long, and it was a crow, a falcon, and a mockingbird-crane clanner who finally uplifted her.

[anathriveline]

Les clans du ciel - La quête d'Ellie (Skyborn 1 - Sparrow Rising) Jessica Khoury Jeunesse, Bayard, 2023

Un monde où les humains ont des ailes !

Alors qu’elle participe à un concours pour devenir apprentie chevaleresse, Ellie, une Moineau, rencontre le Corbeau Nox, un voleur. Malgré leurs différences, tous deux doivent s’unir pour rejoindre Thelantis, la capitale du royaume. Les voilà qui s’envolent pour une aventure pleine de magie, mais aussi de dangers. Car les gargouilles, ces monstres venus du ciel, ne sont jamais très loin…

[warrior84]

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[warrior84]

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[warrior84]

Cold and windy today. #dgbladeco #dgbladecolantis #thelantis #dylangracebladeco #knuckleknife #greateasterncutlery #gec72 #slipjoint #slipjointparadigm #traditionalknives #theslipjoint #grandpaknife #knife #knivesofig #knifetography #knifeaddict #knifeporn #knifecommunity #knifefanatics #knifestagram #knifelife #knifegasm #knifetarded #knifepic #usualsuspectsnetwork #nosafequeens (at Dumas, Texas)

[warrior84]

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[warrior84]

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[warrior84]

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[warrior84]

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[warrior84]

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[warrior84]

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[warrior84]

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[warrior84]

Another rainy day in the panhandle but we can't complain we always need it. #dgbladeco #dgbladecolantis #thelantis #knuckleknife #chrisreeveknives #chrisreevesebenza #sebenza #sebenza21 #sebenza21tanto #tantosebenza #prometheuslights #prometheusbetaqr #prometheus #knife #knivesofig #knifetography #knifeaddict #knifeporn #knifecommunity #knifefanatics #knifestagram #knifelife #usualsuspectsnetwork #goonieshobos #hobocoin

[warrior84]

Almost warm enough to start mowing time to make a little $$ #heeterknifeworks #heeterknifeworksmanowar #manowar #toolupordie #heeternation #dgbladeco #dgbladecolantis #thelantis #knuckleknife #knife #knivesofig #knifetography #knifeaddict #knifeporn #knifecommunity #knifefanatics #knifestagram #knifelife #knifegasm #knifetarded #titaniumandtattoos #usualsuspectsnetwork

[warrior84]

Tired of seeing this lantis? I'm not!! #dgbladeco #dgbladecolantis #thelantis #knuckleknife #hindererskinner #hinderer #hindererherd #hindererxm18 #xm18 #hindererknives #knife #knivesofig #knifetography #knifeaddict #knifeporn #knifecommunity #knifefanatics #knifestagram #knifelife #usualsuspectsnetwork #usnstagram #usnfollow

[warrior84]

Eye spy a little piggy. #dgbladeco #dgbladecolantis #thelantis #knuckleknife #hatepig #hogsofhope #thehateproject #thehatedustproject #oomf #dogood #titaniumpiggy #knife #knivesofig #knifetography #knifeaddict #knifeporn #knifecommunity #knifefanatics #knifestagram #knifelife #knifegasm #knifetarded #knifepic #usualsuspectsnetwork