#their relationship is a constant knife in my side and watching saws iii or x is the equivalent of playing bop it with the handle
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curled up into a fetal position sobbing because I just thought of a john & amanda glass coffin au. one where john realizes that amanda’s not following his method at the end of saw iii but jeff doesn’t kill either of them, so they both survive but amanda’s not an apprentice anymore. but she’s already an accomplice and she can’t return to normal life, so they they just continue separately, with john continuing to “test” people but unwilling to make hoffman his new apprentice in amanda’s place. and amanda continues with her rigged traps, targeting people that have wronged her. both of their murders are attributed to “jigsaw”, with the public unaware that they’re no longer working together.
&they still care so much for each other but john cares more about his “”legacy”” and he struggles to come to terms with the fact that now, amanda as an individual and his legacy are two separate entities. & he can’t keep letting her “ruin” his work by putting people in rigged traps but he obviously can’t go to the police and hoffman won’t help him which means he has to stop her himself. so they have this cat and mouse chase just like hoffman & strahm did in saw v (but like. lesbian daughter and unsupportive father version). and he still has to dig up information on her past like strahm did for hoffman, which forces him to confront the life that he told her to leave behind for the sake of their work.
&the entire theme of the glass coffin being trust, so when amanda’s asking him to enter the glass coffin she’s asking him if he can still trust her, if he ever really trusted her in the first place. if it’s too late for him to ever trust her again. he said he trusted her to carry on his legacy, but can he trust her to save his life?
&just like in saw v, he throws her into the coffin & makes her watch him die
#saw#saw franchise#sawposting#saw 2004#amanda young#saw v#john kramer#their relationship is a constant knife in my side and watching saws iii or x is the equivalent of playing bop it with the handle#long post#the glass coffin dialogue but for john & amanda???#your dedication is to be commended. but I ask if there’s anything else you’ve learned on your journey.#as the old adage goes: fool me once shame on you. fool me twice shame on me’…#i’m asking you john. have you learned to trust me? if you haven’t this room will forever be your tomb and my legacy will become yours.
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