#the way i wish the timeline wasn't based on release year ... before we were sort of in the future now we're in the past ( 2021 ) it's messy
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rescuefield · 9 months ago
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people with no media literacy in the re9 tag make me want to scream. "chris is going to die!!" he is still alive sixteen years after re8. "it's set in the far future!!" the game literally ends with him going to beat the shit out of ask questions to the bsaa about what's going on with the bows on field situation, what makes you think we won't see how that goes down. "x and y will retire and be endgame, suck on that antis!!" sure, denial is a river in egypt and delusion is a land of fools by the way. i'm begging you to please read the files and like, actually watch the screen when you see things happening idk 💀
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amisbro · 7 years ago
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Someone: *knocks on the door* Excuse me sir but are you Joshua?
Joshua: That's me...is there something I can help you with?
Someone: Actually yes! I was wondering if you could help sort out what some of the possible events coming up for utapri in the rest of this year and 2019 would be maybe
Joshua: Well you come to the right dude...but let's take it a step farther and go into 2020 which is the 10th Anniversary of the series shall we?
Someone: Alright!
Joshua: Very well but first I need to get one of my friends to help me with something
(Joshua gets up and sticks his head out of his office and goes to call for a dear friend)
Joshua: Yo Andy...I need my whiteboard that I use for our classes! Can you help me out for a minute?
Andy D: Not a problem Curtis-Sensei. I'll get it right up to ya
(Minutes later)
Andy D: Will this be all you need today Sensei?
Joshua: It will but if you'd like to stick around and watch how we do this then you are more than welcome
Andy D: Very cool! Is this for some work on that UtaPri stuff?
Joshua: It is.
Andy D: Then I will be plenty happy to stick around since ,after our classes, we all play Shining Live to see how well we can do on the songs but I want to see how this detective works his magic
Joshua: Very good! *Turns the the other person in the room* Alright so you want from 2018 to 2019 but I said I would give you to 2020 right?
Someone: Correct
Joshua: Alright...let's get busy!
So...we are already through nearly the first two months and we have had
Lost Alice
Shining Live (English Version)
Trois
Ultra Blast
And soon we are going to have forest of lycrois...correct?
Someone: That is correct. Kind of surprised that Ultra Blast wasn't put in the game around its release cos Lost Alice and Trois was
Joshua: True and I had hypothesized that "Ultra Blast" ,the QN Single to come out and the HEAVENS single to come out would all be in the game around the time of their releases and put in the campaign. I got thrown a little bit of a curveball when I found out that Ultra Blast wasn't put into the game so that I was wrong on...this now makes things interesting for later on in the "game timeline"
Someone: How so?
Joshua: Alright dig it
HAD they put in the song for STARISH then the QN song would have been in...this would leave some fans to wonder IF KLab was going to put in HEAVENS as the game progressed. Since they didn't do it (at least for the foreseeable future) then they can use the "Well we didn't for them" excuse which is annoying as all get out
The thing is though that doesn't rule out HEAVENS being in the game...it just puts it off further IF they are going to do it
Someone: Alright...explain the difference
Joshua: Sure!
IF the STARISH single (Ultra Blast) and the QN single were put in then there was a chance that HEAVENS would get put into the game around the Fall when their song comes out and we know this didn't happen.
SINCE they weren't then we can assume right now that IF they are to be put in it will be closer to around the time of the movie because of the way the releases work for story songs which is about one story a month. THIS would put them off to next year (if at all) because of the way the songs worked in the game
Someone: I think I'm getting this...so basically right now because of the fact ONE single out of three wasn't put in then the debut for HEAVENS in the story would be pushed back
Joshua: Right but now we have to think about this too
June for UtaPri is an interesting month. We have the 8th Anniversary of the franchise and we have two dates for HEAVENS debuts
6/6 - The debut of the trio in "Crystal Time"
6/27 - When they came back at the Triple S as a 7 person.
These two dates are from S2 and 3 and we know this for a fact because we can look up the dates of the episodes. What would be interesting to see is if they got put in around THEN but that might not make sense to some fans so we are looking further off...how much further is dependent also on the release calendar for when we get to S1 songs which I discussed before correct?
Andy D: You did and you think that would be July/August give or take
Joshua: Correct. So we take all this info which I haWe have ve been writing on my board here and lord do we have a puzzle to put together...BUT IT GETS BETTER!
Someone: How so?
Joshua: Alright...dig this
We have Shining Live and that is out BUT Broc is supposed to eventually release 3 more games for the VITA Ports
Debut
All Star
All Star After Secret
Broccoli is porting these games over to the VITA so that people can play those games on that system and earn trophies along the way...this makes sense since Dolce Vita still has to come out and that game's release date is TBD also
Someone: That game is also supposed to be HEAVENS' debut correct?
Joshua: That is correct but its running into an interesting situation because you see this is nearing the end of February and the movie comes out next year. You got AT MINIMUM 3 games to release between now and then and one is supposed to have HEAVENS in it. Now its POSSIBLE that the game comes out BEFORE 2019 but there has been no announcement on that yet so trying to get an answer to any of this is hard...really hard!
Andy D: So what is your best guess for any of this?
Joshua: Right now? THIS
We know that the QN and HEAVENS singles come out this year on dates TBD and we have the 8th Anniversary coming. THAT will be important because you figure when that comes we PROBABLY have to get this information
A Movie release date (We know the year but not month and day)
A release date for at least Debut if not that and possibly the AS games or Dolce Vita
The HEAVENS site will at least be up till the movie is past...we know that for sure but one BIG thing Broc should announce is whether or not they plan a 5th season and if SO...eh that could be interesting if they are planning that for 2020.
Someone: Because the movie is in 2019 right?
Joshua: Right and ramming them together isn't the best idea. They did that kind of with Revolutions and Legend Star and it made no sense and it REALLY made no sense because I would have had it where S3 was in 2015 (which it was) but then Season 4 would have been in 2017 and the movie STILL could have been in 2019 or even if they wanted to they could have given it the time to breathe like this movie is and put that on the 10th Anniversary
Andy D: What did you make about Agematsu's tweet about the series living on forever because "That was the original author's wish"
Joshua: THAT threw me because I think a lot of people were expecting either Season 4 for the Anime to be the end at this point and now the movie. This leads us to a big thing about the TV site
Someone: You mean the fact that it still has Season 4 as a visual and the re-direct for the movie?
Joshua: Yeah...see the thing that I'm trying to figure out is...IF Season 4 was the last season then after you did the redirect to the movie site you could probably let the TV site just go and not renew it for another year. Now the site is still up RIGHT NOW and that is probably going to be there till at least 6/24 but the question will be this
Do they renew the site and if they do then WHY?
Andy D: Well if they do its because they have a plan for a 5th season right?
Joshua: That's true but then the next question is this
Is the season with just STARISH?
Is it a STARISH/QN season?
Is it some deviation from what they have been doing and do something with either QN on their own or HEAVENS on their own?
Someone: Well one would think that with STARISH hitting #1 they would continue with them...the thing is where can their story really go?
Joshua: The writer in me tried to figure that out for a while...season 2 actually made me go "Okay...so they won this competition so where do we take the story?" Then they did Seasons 3 and 4 and lately I became more vocal about how that story was wrote and people hate me for it trust me
Someone: Well you spoke your mind and you really should be applauded for it. It was interesting to see how they tried to get the stories of QN developed in their episodes but HEAVENS was kind of...eh?
Joshua: Basically. Its like sitting in a room and you KNOW where the story SHOULD go but they did everything to convince you that you should want STARISH to win the competition...oddly when S3 happened I didn't start to "hate" STARISH but "resent" is more of the way I look at it
Someone: Well didn't Sailor Moon have kind of a similar problem back in the 90s?
Joshua: Yeah and then they did a Live Action version which in a way "fixed" the problems because you were able to develop everyone proper and give them stories and see how their characters went...even MINOR characters in a way got to have their time in the sun (not that Naru or Motoki were "minor" but you get the idea) so the story felt less of a fatigue factor in my opinion
Someone: I think I get it...so you think they didn't develop other characters properly and that makes it harder to embrace them correct?
Joshua: Right. It also doesn't help that the writers couldn't take a "hard left" and figure out another way to get where they wanted. This is just an opinion of course and I know this isn't where this was supposed to go but you get the idea
Someone: I do! I think the final question then is...what happens to HEAVENS come after "Dolce Vita?"
Joshua: That fate is in Broc's hands sadly. Its like they knew there is a base for HEAVENS right now but its tiny so they have to go where the money is...hell the English Version of Shining Live has more downloads than that twitter has followers but what can you do right?
Alright...did I satisfy your want for answers today friend?
Someone: You did and I appreciate your help and to your friend here it was a pleasure to meet you sir and have a great day
Joshua/Andy: Same to you and have a wonderful day
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