#the threat of the favorite uncle is real...just not when said uncle is viserys and he's constantly upsetting daemon
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syndrossi · 9 days ago
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Re: Jon telling Viserys about the hair dye incidents:
“Why did you not tell me?” “I did not mean to tell him,” Jon said flatly, knuckles sharp as he gripped his inkpot. “He upset me.” Perhaps he should have been angered on his son’s behalf, but instead the answer evoked a swell of relief and commiseration. Viserys overstepping was nearly an expectation, but it had been more upsetting to think that his son had actively sought to confide in him.
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raynakrahl-blog · 7 years ago
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#Jonsa vs #Jonerys
***********************EPISODE 6 SPOILERS AHEAD*******************************
I’ve been reading a lot of these #jonsa and #jonerys posts and I feel like people are confused about Jon’s feeling for both of them... let me explain...
So #Jonsa fans like to point out how he looks “longingly” at her and how they have more romantic chemistry etc. I can see how you might be confusing brotherly love and admiration as romantic feelings (I guess). I can at least see where the looks can be misinterpreted.  What you need to realize here is... He fully believes he is her BROTHER right now. Also, they haven’t seen each other in years and the last time he had any contact with her, she was a dumb little girl full of stupid dreams who was a real b*tch to him. She even admits to it. 
Not only that, but she has been through some horrible life experiences since she last saw him. She’s been tortured by Joffrey and Cersei, manipulated and sold off by Littlefinger, raped by Ramsey, almost dies running away from him... so OF COURSE she is going to be overjoyed to see him! Hell, for all she knew at the time, he was the only sibling she had left! She knew that because Jon was like her father, that he would never let any harm come to her... THAT’S WHAT BIG BROTHERS ARE FOR!!! Of Course he is going to be fiercely protective of her after everything he’s heard that she’s been through, not to mention the fact that (until recently) he thought she was the only sister he had left! ((Do none of you have an older brother?))
The looks between them, imo, are an admiration of how much they have changed and grown since they saw each other last. For her, she sees how battle strong and tactically smart Jon is, but that he has still kept his kind heart and it reminds her of her father.(Which is why she embroiders the stark cloak for him... “Like Father’s, or as close as I can remember”) For him, he sees how much she has grown as a person. She’s no longer that air-headed dreamer he once knew. She’s smart and she stands her ground. He’s proud of the woman his sister has become and he sees her strength, something she never had before. He is also aware of the things she’s lived through... and he does love her... but as a sister.
If I’m right about all of this, you will see the same looks (with a little added fear and apprehension) when he finally sees Arya again. Arya has always been his favorite sibling, but he won’t have to be as protective of her as he will of Sansa, simply because Arya can take care of herself, whereas Sansa is more the diplomat.
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(The affection of a brother who love his sisters)
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(Protective older Brother.... He can smell the horrible intentions on Little finger’s mind. This also mirrors when Ned did the same thing to him outside of his brothel over Cat... Protective like wolves)
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(Because Arya- whom she is speaking to- and Jon were super close, he gave her Needle after all.)
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(Brotherly comfort, both of them have been without family for so long and now they have each other, brotherly equivalent to the one below)
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Now as far as Dany goes. Everyone keeps complaining that there hasn’t been any chemistry between them until episode 6 because he is secretly planning on betraying her. Let me explain how I think this is incorrect.
Of course they are not going to trust each other right away..... they’e never met before.Dany is frustrated because she can’t intimidate him into bending the knee. They are going to butt heads for a little while. especially because, for someone who knows nothing about WW... you sound nuts. She just wants her Throne, which frustrated Jon bc he knows he sounds crazy.He softens her up with the drawings in the caves and that’s when his glances start to hold a little longer... which makes him feel guilty. He’s still not fully over Ygritte. He blames himself for her death, and like he told Melisandra, he still loves her. 
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(Both are weary of each other, but feelings are blossoming, which is why Jon instantly shifts uncomfortably... that’s guilt people)
He starts to allow himself a few lingering stares, but he starts to feel guilty. He’s Jon Snow after all. He’s not going to move on easily, especially because he blames himself for Ygritte’s death. He also knows there are more important things to deal with at the moment, like building her trust and gathering dragonglass, and most importantly, convincing her that the threat is real. The way I see it, if he were going to knowingly betray her, why on earth would he not just agree to bend the knee straight away? Give her what she wants so she’ll agree to help and then let the Northern lords know what he was up to? Clearly, her final betrayal is going to eventually be revealed to her... so why drag out the whole “Bend the knee” crap?As they get to know each other, Jon starts to have feelings, but he’s still weary of her because she’s very temperamental and impulsive, and he does still need her. Be she eventually softens up toward him after Drogon approves, and she sees how kind hearted Jon is.
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(This builds Dany’s trust in him, because Drogon has never acted this way toward anyone who wasn’t her before... so he must be worth her trust)
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I don’t think Jon will allow his feelings to show completely until she proves her loyalty toward her people and to him. Risking her own life, and the life of her children for a bunch of people that most would have left to die (as Tyrion suggested) definitely showed him that she really cares for the people who choose to follow her. He mirrored her selflessness by standing between an entire horde of white walkers and Drogon, essentially protecting her son, and sacrificing himself in the process. The looks the give each other during that scene is very telling. 
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( He’s basically saying, “Leave me and save yourself”.)
Once on the boat, they still don’t fully know if they can trust one another. They still have only known each other a week or two, but there is no denying the feelings. Dany again proves herself to him by backtracking on her own word and vowing to fight with him no matter what. ( And No, even if he didn’t “bend the knee” afterward, she would never go back on that promise... the night king killed her baby!) I feel like the fact that she agreed to fight with him, even after her baby died, and even knowing the other two will be at risk of following him to an early grave, she broke down a few more pieces of his emotional wall... and he’s right, once the white walkers head toward Winterfell, and the entire Kingdom sees that she is willing to get on the battlefield and fight for them... they will join her as well and welcome her with open arms. I’m sure there will be some bumping of heads, especially if Jon returns to Winterfell before the wall comes down, but that problem will work itself out.
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(This is sympathy for her loss and longing to comfort her.)
This scene shows how much they care for each other. She’s the Queen, yet she is sitting patiently by his bedside. His first words to her when he opens his eyes are, “I’m sorry, I’m soo sorry.” Instantly trying to comfort her, because he cares about her and her feelings. He knows how much the Dragons mean to her, but this still is just budding feelings. I’m sure we will see more of these little loving exchanges in the next episode. 
However, I do feel like things may get a little rocky once Jon finds out that she had Drogon roast the Tarly’s. I predict Samwell will help convince Jon that, at the very least, his father deserved it. I also believe this will make Dany see the error of her ways. I believe Jon to be the Yin to her Yang. He and Jorah will be able to talk sense into her until Tyrion is able to prove his loyalty to her again.
As for the betrayal by love.... IMO,Viserion’s the betrayal by love. Her own child has been turned against her, and having to watch him kill 100s of 1000s of people is going to definitely feel like a major betrayal. It would also be poetic because Viserys betrayed her as well, by selling her off to Drogo. However, my little tinfoil hat theory is that since “only death can pay for life”. Viserion’s death will allow her to become pregnant with Jon’s baby. 
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The whole insest arguement is void too, because... If #Jonsa is true... he’s her cousin.. Daughter to his uncle. If #Jonerys is true, she’s his Aunt. Either way, they’re both related to him. 
My final argument is “There must always be a Stark in Winterfell.” That Stark has to be Sansa. Bran no longer considers himself a Stark, as he said in episode 4. Arya doesn’t want to be Lady of Anything, so that leaves Sansa. I feel like Sansa and Gendry will possibly get together... finally fulfilling Robert’s wish to join the houses Baratheon and Stark.
Thoughts? Opinions?
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