#the last part is the reason i have don't personally ship arwen

[alex-the-bringer-of-chaos]

Okay, now this post by @that-nerd-who-writes-fanfiction is absolutely correct. But now think with me, and tell me this song:

Doesn't also work work perfectly for Gwencelot, specially them throughout the end of s3 and s4, with s3 ep13 and s4 ep1 being from Lancelot's pov:

Meanwhile s4 ep2 and s4 ep 9 are from Gwen's pov:

Though, let's be honest, it is also Arwen from Guinevere's pov after the last episode:

Honestly she went through so much pain and grief through this show, losing family members, friends and lovers, being less and less of the person with so much personality in the s1 and ending up the queen (which as much as we all know she is perfect to lead the people of camelot into a golden age, it also cost so much that begs to question if it was really worth it at the end). Anyway, rent over, for now.

[1shadowhole]

I also fall into the no Gwen Hate category lmao I love her as I think 99% of people do.

But like I said many times before I really don't like what the writers did with the character after season 2, and especially in season 5

I have gone into detail in the past so I won't right now (I HAVE FINISHED WRITING AND SPOILER ALERT I WILL), but the jist of it is, from season 3 she loses the charm she had for the first 2. Granted it was for character development, but that doesn't change the fact that her little flaws (If you want to call them that which I still find to be a stretch) were what made me like her so much.

Plus the inconsistency with her love interests. Which I get is naturally part of Arthuriana but the writers handled the Lancelot - Arthur dilemma so poorly that it was ruined.

From S4 she falls neatly into the role of Love interest with little more added to her. But while in S4 she still has character (when she faces Agravaine and in her relationship with her friends and brother) S5 strips even that from her. And she is B O R I N G. I'm sorry, but it's true. The moment she became Queen that's all she was.

And the fact that she was stripped of agency 2 whole times is so stupid! When she cheats, it's pointless, because no one knows it's not her fault while only the audience knows the truth, which takes away any possible interesting nuance. And she isn't herself for like a third of the last season! Wtf! That's not her!! What do I do with that! And this ALSO doesn't affect her character in the least.

Plus, Merlin and her have zero moments together. She isn't his friend anymore for some reason???

"at least all the other relationships were sacrificed for a better one with Arthur?" NO. NO BECAUSE THAT HAS LOST HIS CHARM TOO. And don't get me wrong, I never was an Arwen shipper, but at least in earlier seasons I could see it with the banter and little chemistry I could feel (maybe it's just because it was similar to Merlin's relationship with Arthur and that fact is a whole different issue altogether) Now in S5, she's just there. And that's so sad.

And one thing I also mentioned many times is that, compared to the other 3 main characters (who did a complete 180, or partial in case of Arthur) her development is next to nothing. The only change is that she is more confident now... Soooo the only character development she underwent is one that took away what I liked about her. Great. With all the loss she underwent you'd expect her to be a different person but no...

That's what I don't like. And I have my own version of Gwen in my head that I prefer.

But what really bothers me isn't that. Because...eh, the show isn't known for its wonderful consistency. I wouldn't care much. And again, I love that first version of Gwen, it's among my favourite characters...

It's this attitude that I see from a lot of fans. This "you can't criticise her because she's amazing and if you do you only hate her because you ship Merthur/Gwencelot" Or of course, the good old accusation of racism or sexism.

Again I like her character! But this almost worship of Gwen from such a big chunk of the fandom that allows for no criticism is overwhelming.

And it's treated like such a hot take too! Like

"hot take, but I love Gwen even though I ship Merthur"/"Hot take! Gwen is amazing and doesn't deserve any hate"/"Hot take, criticising Gwen just because you ship Merthur is idiotic"/"I know I'm alone in this but Gwen doesn't deserve any of the hate she gets"

WHAT HATE

What

WHAT

I feel like I'm losing my mind these aren't hot takes they are the coolest most commonly shared takes in the fandom stop acting like you and even her character are martyrs! Y'all need to chill! You are creating your own straw man to be mad about

Ok I just wanna say this one thing and then I’m going to bed lol. What is UP with all the Gwen hate?!

Like me of all people absolutely love Merthur and I do think that they had the best chemistry out of anyone in the show but that doesn’t mean that Gwen also didn’t have chemistry with people?

I just saw someone say that she didn’t have chemistry with ANYONE which I think is wack. Miss girl had everyone falling head over heels for her. First of all, while her relationship with Arthur did feel forced at times and should’ve been fleshed out more in my opinion, I actually DO love their relationship and I think they had a lot of chemistry.

But besides that, LANCELOT was madly in love with her. Like, she was his hope in the darkness. And she loved him greatly in return. Their relationship is probably my favorite of Gwen’s relationships.

Merlin in the first season was also at least intrigued by her. Maybe not in love but definitely interested.

Morgana and her ABSOLUTELY had tension and would’ve made great love interests if not for the fact that Morgana perverted her own good nature.

And lastly I know this wasn’t fleshed out very much and she wasn’t interested in him but Gwaine was ALSO interested in her.

But besides all of that she is just such an amazing character. She is polite but stands up for people, she’s kind but can talk back if need be, she is funny and loving and cares so much for Camelot and all of her friends. She had so much love to give and was also FUNNY. What more could you ask for??

Anyway. That was long but needless to say I’m tired of the Gwen haters. She deserves better in Canon and in fandom. First the writers did her dirty in her queen arc and now fans are reducing her to a cardboard cutout that she clearly isn’t!

Ok. Ted talk over