#the key points are: lotus's HAD to have been taken i dont trust june snake is def alive and there seems no point to killing junpei if you

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so snake is still alive

it goes to great lengths to remind us that we CANNOT SEE HIS FACE OR TELL WHO IT IS ON THE BODY

the ninth mans bracelet fell off of him and was just lying on the floor and as he regularly does, seven left the door openable

which means that the face of the bracelet is most likely shattered because it would display a 9 if that werent the case

all hed have to do is put his clothes on another body (possibly the ninth mans?) and slip away

but i cant qutie figure out how he could have gone in there

if you go by the murder theory it only seems possible to work out if santa and lotus worked together on it. which doesnt seem entirely IMPOSSIBLE but perhaps unlikely

but its also pretty clear that snake got the ninth man killed i mean it isnt hard to figure out the “HIM” who got him killed was the one who had all the informations about reds deads and doors. i mean its already hella suspect that he has that information so it would only make sense for him to thereby use it to orchestrate an escape with some people straight from the getgo

which he then clearly would have used to set the stage for faking his murder

his sister clover was also involved in that situation which is interesting

now going by the submarine ending which is the first one i got and so far only one

junpei notes that lotus’s bracelet is missing but no one elses

the list of possible combinations for him to get to the nine door (which i mean why bother when theres a submarine unless the nine door is on the submarine) are:

(2+8=10=1) 2+8+5+3=18=9 2+8+4+7+5+1=27=9 2+8+6+7+4=27=9(i gave up here after having to do this for the second time after substituting 2+8 for just 1 and assuming that would work. it doesnt.)

barring any additional tomfoolery or MATHS. it couldnt possibly include the ninth bracelet because it no longer works (probably, and is indisposed if nothing else) (also youd think the least amount of bracelets possible the more preferable)

the only body of the four found dead investigated was clovers. by seven. he said clover wasnt breathing. clover could either be an actress (thus working with her brother to escape) or seven was lying or both. after all if seven was complicit in setting up the body (hed be able to carry it rather easily through the doors HE propped open) that means he and clover would have opened the three door to let snake actually that math doesnt work i hate this game for tricking me to do math nor do i feel like considering further combinations

im. gah i got sidetracked.

ANYWAY: snake seems confirmed to be involved. i mean. snake in the grass, obviously? lotus is involved because only her bracelet is missing. junpei is killed for seemingly no other reason (than being allowed to traverse freely) which makes me ASSUME they needed his bracelet (do they even still work after theyre unlocked? if not then like why take lotus’s? and if clover really can reduce her heartbeat to 0 then why bother with the process at all...)

but then why also were santa “clover” ace and akane and like one other person i think attacked? why didnt akane say anything to him? i dont trust her to begin with

unless the fact that lotus’s bracelet being off just meant she really was dead/stopped her heart? as in they instantly just POP off? which would make seven having his more suspicious?

but it seems most likely that

akane/june and/or clover attacked everyone for snake then crawled off and pretended to die seven killed lotus while they were on the other side and played dead then snake comes out, having recruited june and seven for the escape plan and fuck off

its possible killing junpei or ace was necessary because theyre so particularly virtuous. and lotus because she would NOT keep her mouth shut if she heard about an alliance that threatened everyone. shed make a counter alliance to attack them (i mean the concept of june betraying junpei isnt that big of a shock to me. theyd only known each other in ELEMENTARY school. thatd be like me dying for some kid i knew in first grade and never spoke to again. i dont trust june. i also dont trust clover but for different reasons)

so basically what im sayin is:

i aint got shit what the fuck is a nonary game imma die