#the argument appeared to be that Death's line about 'SHOW ME ONE ATOM OF JUSTICE ONE MOLECULE OF MERCY' was inherently grimdark
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irregularjohnnywiggins · 2 years ago
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My absolute favourite 'Wow. You missed the point of this so much that I'm actually impressed how much you missed the point by' that I've encountered recently is someone claiming the ending of Hogfather is grimdark.
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noirandchocolate · 2 years ago
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#the argument appeared to be that Death's line about 'SHOW ME ONE ATOM OF JUSTICE ONE MOLECULE OF MERCY' was inherently grimdark
Dear gods.
How on earth does one miss that the meaning of that exchange isn't that "justice and mercy don't exist" and is instead that "justice and mercy are not objective, physical parts of the universe, they are concepts that humans invented and it is very important that humans believe in them because otherwise they can't and won't exist"?
The topic closes with this, for goodness sake!:
NO. YOU NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN’T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME? said Death.
What is even the argument that this is "grimdark" unless you have completely misunderstood? The whole point is that humanity has the power to will these positive concepts into existence! And that humanity has in fact done so and continues to do so on a daily basis! Death is amazed that we have done this! Terry Pratchett was lauding the human species for inventing "truth" and such out of whole cloth!
How did someone get from that to "grimdark"?
My absolute favourite 'Wow. You missed the point of this so much that I'm actually impressed how much you missed the point by' that I've encountered recently is someone claiming the ending of Hogfather is grimdark.
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