#the Arundel he killed wasn't the nice uncle he remembered but someone
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Uncle Arundel, before being body-snatched, spearheaded the Insurrection of the Seven, with Vestra and Aegir iirc.
Given how he made sure to secure Supreme Leader and Anselma to Faerghus, aka a place Ionius would never be able to reach (since apparently he can waltz in Leicester, experiment on members from an important house, and return home without any consequences).
Now, we know the Insurrection started because Ionius wanted to centralise power on himself, and remove privileges accorded to the consort kin like... Volkhard himself (who's the bro of a consort). I already mentionned how those privileges were most likely checks to prevent Ionius from, uh, seducing a woman, then throwing her away thus ruining both her and her family - given how Volkhard spirited Anselma and Supreme Leader away, was he afraid for their safety... at Ionius' hands?
We won't know, because the Supreme narrative paints the Insurrection as "fatso's falt daddy did nothing wrong" and Fodlan is not interested in telling the truth about said insurrection (Vestra Sr is killed off-screen in both games, when Leopold'n'Waldemar don't even mention said Insurrection at all in Nopes) so we're left with fog...
But from what this fog seems to appear, it looks like Volkhard, before being Agarthan'd, was someone who wanted to protect his family, even if it meant challenging Ionius himself and seeking help in Faerghus.
As for what Supreme Leader would think of him... since Daddy's the Greatest Ever, Volkhard was trash to take her away, and even if he did it for her sake, I supposed she'd adopt some "Hubert in his Hanneman support" reasoning and call him trash, or either don't care, because her path and blah blah blah so Volkhard should never have turned against Ionius.
Cornelia seemed to have been someone who genuinely wanted to help people and did so, before being Cleo'd which is why, despite doing, uh, Cleobulus things, we still have people following her.
Tomas was indeed recommanded by House Ordelia, then returned to Ordelia around the time Ionius sent his besties there for science, and returned as Solon.
Tomas was supposed to be a kind librarian and all - and Solon at least pretended to be that "kind Tomas" because Cyril mentions once iirc that Tomas was always kind to him and gave him sweets or something?
Granted, given how we see Tomas try to suggest that Church BaD bcs the Immaculate One and Cardinals exist... Solon-Tomas' acts of kindness ultimately had another objective in mind.
But yeah, post game(s) no one cares about the real Cornelia, Volkhard or Tomas (or Monica but... Nopes kind of soured her to some people) and it's kind of sad that their names and legacy is thrown in the mud because of what the Agarthan did while wearing/using their bodies, but hey, it's not like someone knows about the bodysnatching or how Agarthans change their appearances and could have told people that those people weren't the same people as the hosts they've hijacked.
Shaking everything like you don't understand I hate how 3H does not CARE about the people who the Agarthans took the place of !!! I hate that no one grieves for Arundel, Cornelia or Tomas !!! I hate that all that will be remembered of them is their desecrated corpses moved around like puppets and vomiting the worst shit known to man because the Agarthans do not care !!! Even the ones who do some sliver of effort to act in a similar manner to the ones they stole the identity for !!!!
Arundel was probably truly one of the rare person who cared for Edelgard and no one will know it because he's DEAD and THALES took his place !!!! This is fucking insane to me !!!!!!!
#lumeha#FE16#in a way the bodysnatching of Agarthans is ignored just like everything that happens and is revealed in White Clouds#because teabags reasons#I guess it'd be better for Dimitri though imagine him coming to terms with the fact that#the Arundel he killed wasn't the nice uncle he remembered but someone#who killed his uncle and used his body and name to wreck chaos#ditto with Cornelia#UO didn't explore its similar plot thread that much#but we still have Renault and Hodrick + the desert people wondering about their possession#and feeling regretful for what they did under possession even if it wasn't their fault#and then I could come up with half a dozen plot bunnies to wreck that world if somehow words gets out that#Galvius was akshually Ilenia('s body)
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I love how much they always try to drum up sympathy for Randolph when the man’s only character trait is “I want to murder people to gain personal status.” And then he also has the gall to act like he’s better than the people defending themselves when he goes to kill them.
Welcome to the wonderful world of Nopes, where the people are wrong for not wanting to die or not wanting to be invaded, but you can talk about tea or your plans for the next dinner when you're invading/slaughtering/pillaging a foreign nation.
Funny seeing Claude play Edelgard like a fiddle though. His army is fine, and hers is crushed lamo.
Hm... if the stars align a certain way in SB, it's the inverse!
I love how they make Rhea out to be such a big deal, but literally no one gives a shit that they declared war on her. Like, pick one, game. You either have Claude be an unpopular ruler or Rhea actually be a problem.
That's this route in a nutshell (and the discourse for 4 years), Rhea BaD and EvIl bcs she controls the world and has sway over the people, except that she doesn't, but the narrative acts as if she does, while also telling/showing you she doesn't.
:/
Tl;Dr : Rhea BaD because she exists.
Raphael called it right. Commoners don’t give a shit. So Edelgard getting everyone killed over noble squabbles.
TFW Raphael, a commoner, bought her speech because his King does, when he knows eveything is just bullshit :)
She doesn't give a fuck about commoners too, remember the "I too would sacrifice randoms for my goals" in Houses?
Claude is such an idiot. I cannot take him seriously. Claiming he wants to spare lives moments after sacrificing Randolph and wanting to wipe a church no one gives a shit about off the map. Am I supposed to take this seriously?
I think the dev later said in an interview his journey in this route was a heartwarming or heart touching story? Maybe the audience's heart is touched because they're so angry at this excuse of a plot and the lack of meaning of everything that is going down...
Someone made a parody video of that route on YouTube, I can give you the link when you'll have finished that run if you want!
Arval just said trying to unify different people under one king is dumb, won’t work, and looks forward to the day humanity moves beyond it.
Arval has his own paralogue later on - but let's save it for a later chapter update.
You know, going through supports has made me realize that Golden Deer probably has my overall least favorite cast.
There's something about this game that made some people reallu turn away from the GD peeps...
I don’t want to invade the Kingdom. Especially since it makes no sense for Claude to do so.
Claude and "making sense" cannot work in the same sentence in this game lol.
Like, Miss "I already sent my troops to conquer your lands even if you are not the one harbouring the evil lizard lady I'm trying to get rid off" would really stop her war of conquest if the evil lizard lady dies? Really?? Even withouth knowledge of FE16, this is completely stupid "but the imperialist promised me she would leave my lands alone after trying to seize them first!".
Yeah... Are you buying it? Because I don't.
So Byleth doesn’t join you because you kill Jeralt, I’m assuming. Though, Byleth doesn’t seem to have any issue joining Edelgard when she plays a role in that lamo.
"It wasn't her it was Kronya and it was not her fault she had no agency Uncle Arundel forced her to obey uwuwuwuwu"
Billy has some "nice" supports that reveal a bit more about their relationship with Jeralt (Jeralt too has supports!) but as a rule of thumb, this game is not kind to Byleth, and when plot important connections should be made... they aren't.
Byleth so callous about Jeralt’s death. Far cry from the crying in Houses, a bit sad actually.
I mentionned it commenting one of your earlier chapters - but this is part of the "Byleth story" that, at the end of said story, FEH decided to retcon it a bit because of the earlier "fusion" you mentionned with Sothis.
Is whoever dies in AG bad enough that I should push through and recruit Byleth? I may look that up to give me the proper motivation, but that could backfire if it’s someone I don’t care enough, but I’m having a hard time thinking of a single character I don’t care enough about. Even like Sylvain’s dad would make me too sad for Sylvain and I couldn’t do it.
Mmh...
Byleth and Jeralt have "exclusive" supports with characters route locked in SB and GW, but, as far as I remember, none in AG?
I'm pretty sure you'd be sad though, it's someone a lot of people love!
So is Sothis and Byleth merging merging or something?
Ah, I just remembered - if you don't recruit Byleth thus the character I haven't named in AG dies, Sothis mentions her family!
But yeah, even if I love nabatean breadcrumbs, I think you're going to be really disappointed if the AG character dies so... I'd suggest recruiting Billy (and their dad!) in AG.
Golden Wildfire Ch 10
Spoilers for GW up to Ch 10 below.
STORY
Now Claude's taking Ls in the Kingdom too.
I love how much they always try to drum up sympathy for Randolph when the man's only character trait is "I want to murder people to gain personal status." And then he also has the gall to act like he's better than the people defending themselves when he goes to kill them.
I never really put that much thought into him before, but yeah he's kinda just a piece of shit, isn't he? Low key one of the worst human beings in the game.
They should've made it Fredinand or like Linhardt's dad or someone likeable.
Funny seeing Claude play Edelgard like a fiddle though. His army is fine, and hers is crushed lamo.
Haha, Fleche is back to her vengeance act. It's gonna be funny if a tiny girl child is a final boss.
The same conversation with Jeralt and Bylethas I saw elsewhere, I think. Yeah, here comes the sword again.
I love how they make Rhea out to be such a big deal, but literally no one gives a shit that they declared war on her. Like, pick one, game. You either have Claude be an unpopular ruler or Rhea actually be a problem.
Raphael called it right. Commoners don't give a shit. So Edelgard getting everyone killed over noble squabbles.
Hilda kinda seems like the Kingdom stan here. She's always the one upset about it.
Claude is such an idiot. I cannot take him seriously. Claiming he wants to spare lives moments after sacrificing Randolph and wanting to wipe a church no one gives a shit about off the map. Am I supposed to take this seriously?
Haha, Arval said he can think for both of them when I had Shez say she's more brawn than brain lamo. And Shez believes it too, omg. Shez is great. I need a comedy show with them.
Oh, nice! Looks like another single-battle map. BC, honestly, I got Spiritfarer for Christmas and I'm DYING to play it, but need to finish this first.
BASE/SIDE BATTLES
Lamo, Arval just said trying to unify different people under one king is dumb, won't work, and looks forward to the day humanity moves beyond it.
LORENZ/IGNATZ/RAPHAEL PARALOGUE
So is this the paralogue that's going to rewrite it so Lorenz's dad did nothing wrong? Given the description, I'm betting it's that.
Ignatz is being awkward around Lorenz now that he's been promoted.
Gloucester evades all of Lorenz's questions about these bandits.
And now Lorenz is demanding Raphael do what Ignatz did and is upset he's so casual lamo.
So are they making it so his dad wasn't the one who ordered the hit that killed Raphael's parents? Lol. This game really likes whitewashing some of these guys, but Glouster's probably the worst offender.
Let me take a wild guess. TWSITD.
It's really a shame that Raphael is such a one-note character. It would've been interesting if he had more in-depth conversations with the rest of the cast who were unable to move beyond trauma.
IGNATZ & LEONIE B SUPPORT
Their one and only support.
They're hunting and the deer only has one arrow. So they try to figure out who successfully shot the deer.
They both hit the same place. Mystery solved.
LORENZ & CONSTANCE C SUPPORT
This one should be better.
Constance is challenging a cat to a staring contest. Yes, this one is already better.
Lamo, he says he would've considered her as a wife if she restored her house. But withdraws because she's a weirdo. (I mean, no loss?)
Constance gets back at him by saying she'd never consider him lol.
Now they're arguing over who's house is more noble.
Much more entertaining.
SHEZ & RAPAEL B SUPPORT
It's about food.
It's nice to see Raphael actually have passion about something instead of just repeating "meat!" over and over.
SHEZ & IGNATZ B SUPPORT
You know, going through supports has made me realize that Golden Deer probably has my overall least favorite cast.
Ignatz has an older brother. He likes his brother at least.
Ignatz is finally talking about how he doesn't love being a knight. He really didn't have much of anything going on removing that conflict.
It's nice to hear Ignatz have his own convictions to become a knight. He's getting more sides to him, which is good.
SHEZ & HOLST B SUPPORT
Holst sneaks with Shez into enemy territory. He's doing it because scouts are going missing. Shez is impressed someone of his status is doing that.
LYSITHEA & RAPHAEL B SUPPORT
Lysithea studied too long and is out after dark. Gets scared by noises. She runs into Raphael and they talk about strengths and weaknesses.
The weird noises she heard wasn't Raphael.
MARIANNE & HILDA PARALOGUE
Marianne needs help from Shez organizing because she sucks at it.
Wow, Hilda not only volunteered to help Marianne clean up the mess, but also to do the scouting mission they were supposed to go on all by herself. It's love.
Hilda doesn't show up for awhile, so they get worried and go to check on her. Given that it dumps me to prepare for the battle next, I'm thinking that was a good call.
Not my favorite paralogue. I had to fight Ingrid :(
They talk about Marianne's typical issues.
It has very "safe" shipping dialogue throughout.
MAIN BATTLE
I don't want to invade the Kingdom. Especially since it makes no sense for Claude to do so.
Hahahahaha, lamo, you deserve it Claude. Fleche raised an army to fight him. Seeing this tiny girl as the final boss is going to be hysterical.
Oh, Arval and Shez stuff. I almost forgot Arval existed. They've got bad feelings. I'm guessing it's because Byleth is fused with Sothis.
Ok guys, I restarted this chapter over and over trying to recruit Byleth, but Claude just stands there in one seized area and won't move until Byleth reaches him - even when no one else is around.
I really just want to be done with this playthrough to be honest (there are so many other games I want to play right now), so I'm not going to bother with recruiting Byleth. I'll try in SB, but the only one I'm going to put any real effort in is AG.
Seeing Fleche as a final boss is funny.
I'm guessing we don't fight Jeralt if you recruit successfully. Got a cool cut scene for not bothering though!
So Byleth doesn't join you because you kill Jeralt, I'm assuming. Though, Byleth doesn't seem to have any issue joining Edelgard when she plays a role in that lamo.
Also, gotta say, I love how there's a chapter you can't use the lords. And for Edelgard and Claude it's because they randomly just don't fight that chapter. For Dimitri, it's epic story reasons lol.
Aw, shit, did Byleth just kill Judith?? That sucks. Oh well. Not restarting. This 3 route thing is too much. I just want to play this again, but one route only.
You know, after Claude's dumbfuckery throughout this route, he kinda deserves this lamo.
So who is it in SB and AG that dies?
Byleth so callous about Jeralt's death. Far cry from the crying in Houses, a bit sad actually.
It's kinda funny that Judith died because Fleche went on another rampage. I'm going to miss seeing her around though.
Is whoever dies in AG bad enough that I should push through and recruit Byleth? I may look that up to give me the proper motivation, but that could backfire if it's someone I don't care enough, but I'm having a hard time thinking of a single character I don't care enough about. Even like Sylvain's dad would make me too sad for Sylvain and I couldn't do it.
Aww, Arval is upset for Shez.
So is Sothis and Byleth merging merging or something?
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#fireemblems24#3 nopes#don't worry you're close to the end!#imo GW made me reconsider the deers in general#i was meh about them at first not giving a fig#but now?#I prefer the Begion Senators at least they're funny
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