#that's not even looking at the fact that corran is ALSO his great something grand nephew
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5unrider · 3 months ago
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the thing about koa having been frozen in carbonite for as long as he was is the fact that he had a wife and daughter (the latter of whom he didn't know about, on account of being frozen shortly after her conception), which means he has a whole bloodline that has persevered through the years. which means that, in luke's new jedi order, his grandson will, in fact, know his great-great-great-[…] grandson.
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meonlyred · 8 years ago
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what do you think about the addition to the no attachment rule? i want an earful
AHAHAHA!! Oh boy, you asked for it! *Cracks knuckles*
Let me take you back to a time before 1999, pre-prequels, to a time when little teenage me was reading the shit out of the Star Wars novels and comic books. Han and Leia were married, Luke married Mara Jade, and Corran Horn was married to Mirax Terrik. All force sensitives, all married and in love. Being in love was natural it was perfectly fine, yay! 
Then came Episode 2. I will never forget walking into our local theater and seeing the big banner poster with Anakin and Padma standing back to back with the words: "A Jedi shall not know anger. Nor Hatred. Nor Love.“ and going “what do you mean?!” as a held my Courtship of Princess Leia book tightly to my chest.
Now as far as I can remember there was no “Jedi can’t be in love” rules before the release of that movie. There were multiple people from the New Jedi Order who were married. I could be wrong but it was never brought up like it is in the prequel. It was something new, that you can’t fall in love or else you’ll murder a bunch of kids. 
So Episode 2 established that in the old Jedi Order there was a rule that Jedi can’t fall in love. Okay that is fine if you also say that the Jedi Order at the time was corrupt and up their own asses. To this a lot of fans of the series agree- myself included. Expect Lucas as stated that the Jedi were always perfectly right about everything. 
Now let’s look at real world comparison. There are several religious faiths out there that state that celibacy is next to godliness. That you are most pure and virtuous when you are free of that horrible sin called SEX!! Lord have mercy! *Fans self* This has lead to our society having this horrible hang up about sex and virginity. Which in my opinion is all complete bullshit. Sex is sex. Virginity is meaningless. You can have sex whenever you feel you are ready for it. (And I am talking about when you are at least of legal age. I’m not trying to tell a 14 year old to go have sex) I’m talking about people like me who were told that you can’t have premarital sex because it’s a SIN! “SEX IS A SIN! CAN I GET AN AMEN!” Bullshit. I wish I could find it but there is this story about a woman who had been told all her life that sex was bad and even after she got married and had sex with her husband she felt she lost a piece of herself. She felt shameful for having sex even when married.
Thanks to Episode 2, the Jedi Order has this similar belief. Being in love, having sex, and getting married is BAD! Lucas even provided us with the beacon example of Anakin and Padma getting married, banging and oh shit! He killed some kids and choked out his wife! Even his love for his mother ultimately made him do something terrible. According to this movie love leads to the Dark Side! Why couldn’t they have Anakin fall to the Dark Side because of something other than love! Don’t make them the perfect example of exactly what the Jedi had warned him about. It makes that belief justified. 
Now to be fair, other Star Wars content outside of Lucas’ jam hands has shown this line of thinking for the Jedi Order to be wrong. For example: Jace and Satele. I think the Old Republic does a pretty good job showing that Satele hiding Theron’s birth from Jace and the rest of the galaxy just to pretend to be the Jedi Order’s shining pure prodigy was a mistake. It might have been good for the Jedi but it was bad for their family. She did it because she was lead to believe that what she did with Jace was wrong and must be hide because: a Jedi shall not know anger. Nor Hatred. Nor Love. This would be great for story telling if it was admitted widely that the Jedi are wrong about this rule. 
This brings us to a more in universe lore reason why I hate it: the Jedi are supposed to be the guardian and defenders of the Republic. One Jedi on the field of battle can change the tide of battle. They are also healers and diplomats. They are the moral compass of the Republic and it’s people. Their philosophy is the religion of the Republic. To the every-man they are mystic, they swoop in one day performing miracles that average man could never dream of doing. And yet they don’t marry, they don’t fall in love, they live on their own planet and are apart from the rest of the galaxy. This is the example that they show the rest of the galaxy.
“Are you married, Master Jedi?”“Of course not. That leads to the Dark Side.”
What? NO! I truly believe that showing this kind of precedence to the rest of galaxy sends a very bad message.
Let me bring up Jolee Bindo one of my personal favorite Jedi. He was a Jedi who left in love and gave the middle finger to the Jedi Order while doing it. Yes, his wife did fall to the Dark Side but he did not. He even said this to Revan: "Love doesn’t lead to the Dark Side. Passion can lead to rage and fear, and can be controlled, but passion is not the same thing as love. Controlling your passions while being in love, that’s what they should teach you to beware. But love itself will save you, not condemn you.”
I can agree that strong emotions and acting on them can lead a Jedi to fall to the Dark Side but then isn’t that exactly what the Jedi Order is suppose to teach their Padawans? They teach them to meditate, to center themselves, to make rational and compassionate decisions that are good, right, and just. Yet they can’t teach them that loving someone is perfectly fine. That their sexuality is fine! Oh you think that person is cute, well you can’t act on it because that is a SIN!!!! If you fall in love, your eyes will turn red and you’ll kill some kids.
In conclusion, what I’m trying to say is that from a story telling point of view this rule is fine. But I believe that is should be made very apparent that this is a dumb rule. That the Jedi are so out of touch with the rest of the galaxy that they think this is okay when in fact it is not. 
For my SWTOR characters, one of my Knights is sleeping with the Grand Master’s son (which is several layers of “haha that rule is dumb!”) Another one of my Knights is married to her smooth talking doctor. (I still think it’s complete and total bullshit you have to take 50 Dark Side points just to marry Doc but that is a story for another time.) One of my Consulars is married to her soldier. And another is sleeping with a Sith Lord. All four of these Jedi are shining examples of the Light Side. And no one has killed a bunch of kids or choked out their lover. Meanwhile I’m riding off in the sunset flipping off that stupid ass rule.
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