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Obsessed with characters who portray themselves as worse than they are. Who are lying to everyone including themselves about it. People generally assume if someone's lying about themselves they're trying to look better but sometimes they're trying to look worse. They attribute agency to where they had none, add intent to accidents, try to convince everyone that this is something they did instead of something that happened to them.
#this is about tenko bnha#but it is also about dahlia ace attorney#watch the nezumiVA videos on ace attorney trilogy they're great#anyway dahlia saying she (at like. 6 years old) apparently convinced her father to abandon her sister. hmmm#also everyone including herself thinking of her as the manipulator in control with terry when she was 14 dating a 20 y/o#anyway these characters both did do terrible things but feel the need to pile on more and remove nuance from where it exists#to convince themselves that this is what they really want. that they chose this.#it's about the loss of control it's about being a victim feeling worse than being a villain#at least if you were the bad guy you had autonomy#shimura tenko#shigaraki tomura#dahlia hawthorne
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I might make a couple people mad but "Terry Fawles was an intellectually disabled man that Dahlia Hawthrone took advantage of." and "Fawles' relationship with Dahlia was horribly inappropriate and she was right to distrust him" are two statements that can coexist.
#ace attorney meta#ace attorney#dahlia hawthorne#i see a lot of dahlia defenders ignore terry's disability but i think we can hold fawles accountable without erasing that fact#as an autistic AA fan i find Fawles to be a shitty stereotype but i find the erasure of his disability to be worse
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#dahlia hawthorne#ace attorney#phoenix wright#dahlia x phoenix#alexa play dark red by steve lacy#my art#since i dont want to make a dedicated post let me use my notes to vent about how much i love dahlia conceptually and how much i wish AA +#writers weren't sexist#dahlia was given the shittiest set of cards when she was a kid and she was a victim of grooming by that terry loser#she is CONSTANTLY objectified and sexualised and i think her design as a skinny young looking individual makes it even more distasteful#but i think it works if the writers could have done something with that#what i love about dahlia and phoenix's relationship is the contrast - phoenix needs to see people as innocent before jumping to help them v#dahlia who has if you think about it is innocent to a degree given how fucked up her childhood was#dahlia could have been a great case study into compassion for phoenix as she has hurt him directly but in his role as a lawyer he has to se#past certain flaws so justice can be served#and it can PUSH his understanding of what is “guilty”#yes dahlia killed people but also i choose to believe her worldview was severely warped by her enviornment and she's a product of it#or if they wanted to make her a villain and stick with it i think as a rival ro phoenix she should have been a cautionary tale#of what happens when you never learn to move beyond the shitty hand youve been dealt with and live non judgementally#anyways ^_^
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last supper (2022)
#ace attorney#dahlia hawthorne#terry fawles#valerie hawthorne#mia fey#prosecutor godot#diego armando#phoenix wright#doug swallow#sister iris#maya fey#pearl fey#misty fey#my art
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Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations (2004)
Turnabout Memories The Stolen Turnabout Recipe for Turnabout Turnabout Beginnings Bridge to the Turnabout
#ace attorney#phoenix wright ace attorney trials and tribulations#trials and tribulations#gifset#aa3#figtreegif#phoenix wright#turnabout memories#the stolen turnabout#recipe for turnabout#turnabout beginnings#bridge to the turnabout#doug swallow#mask demasque#ron delite#luke atmey#glen elg#furio tigre#valerie hawthorne#terry fawles#dahlia hawthorne#misty fey#elise deauxnim#game boy advance#nintendo ds#video games
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“HELLO!!!! And welcome to the Golden Shores Beach Day Awards Ceremony! Today we’ve had some AWESOME competitions running throughout the day, some that weren’t even planned, but we were so impressed we just had to shout a couple of you out!” -🐭
“This feels similar to what the kids would call bullying-” -✨
“But in a kind and rewarding way of course because we’re so proud of everyone’s joyous nature today!” -🐭
*Ellen rolled her eyes. Today was a shit show and anyone with eyes could tell that. Someone literally died and the High Seraphim who was supposed to be doing awards was no where to be found. Not to mention that… person Seraphim Adina was running around with for half the day was definitely a sinner. And honestly, there were several other halos that were suspect throughout the day as well! Calling attention to it would have caused a panic though so she let it slide but seriously? Joyous nature Penelope?*
“There were several moments we’ll be highlighting, so keep those clappers warm and ready to get to applauding! Today was a great day!” -🐭
“First we’d like to congratulate all of the sandcastle builders. There were 76 entries this year! Thats the most we’ve ever had compete during this event, and the competition was hot! With over six thousand votes turned in, it’s a surprise we even got the votes all tallied up in time!” -🐲
“Would have been a lot harder if you hadn’t set half of them on fire, but what do I know?” -✨
“Please, when you’ve been called, come to the podium to be recognized and receive your award. So without further ado, third place belongs to… number 34, Dahlia!” -🐲
“Our second place was a tight win, only a little over thirty more votes seperately these two placements! Second place was… number 33, Delia!” -🐥
“Our first place winner was an absolute landslide. This sand castle was entered a bit later in the day but still managed to get quite a lot of attention for their scenes from the skies! This castle was a masterpiece coming from an unsuspected source. With a tallied vote of 1256 votes, the winner of the sandcastle building competition is… number 68, Shamira!” -🐭
*Ellen remembered counting votes and laughing as she sorted through the paper slips. At least a third of them were all in Emily’s flowing cursive. But honestly, she loved Emily and if she was willing to turn in over 300 votes for the guardians castle, she would gladly count them. Even if said guardian would have won without any of them*
(( @exorcist-dahlia @exorcist-delia @askshamass ))
#joy team™️#ellen ✨#duckton 🐥#Penelope 🐭#beach ep#lutualverse#Terry 🐲#exorcist dahlia#exorcist Delia#servant shamira
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mia is stronger than me because if my first courtroom experience included a guy that was lowkey a misogynist calling me kitten, the prosecution being an annoying smug bitch, dahlia, and the defendant being a pdf file i wouldve killed myself
#oh and the defendant died i guess#ace attorney#mia fey#diego armando#miles edgeworth#dahlia hawthorne#terry fawles#my stuff
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Reminder that Terry Fawls was a certified tutor and had to be going to college currently if he wanted to become a tutor for Dahlia, he knew what he was doing! She didnt manipulate shit, she was 14 years old, usually alone with a grown man, i hate the victim blaming here. (Not at anyone just a general reminder for the fandom lol)
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Question about The Hawthorne Sister's swap au, how does everything with Valerie and Fawles go down? Also what are the two's thoughts on Phoenix?
I believe events play out similarly to canon… up to a point. Iris kills Valerie not out of feeling betrayed, but because she feels a moral superiority and that it is her duty to see her sister be punished for her “sins” (the theft, faking Iris’ death, wanting to turn Iris in… etc)
She isn’t betrayal motivated like Dahlia was… very focused on that innate “moral high ground” that she has where she justifies everything she does as for the greater good. Much like Dahlia, she gets away with her crimes with how innocent and sensitive she is. Except she isn’t acting, she’s just Like That.
Fawles will still kill himself with poison, feeling guilty over taking advantage of Iris. That is how he sees the situation, after all. Iris can’t do any wrong, so it really must have been his fault. The poison itself was a gift from Dahlia, who used it to try and help out her sister, explaining to Fawles that if he ever hurt her, he best use it. This is about the closest Dahlia gets to committing murder herself in the swap AU. All she wants is to protect her sister.
Iris loves Phoenix genuinely, but in a sick, obsessive way. She idolizes and glorifies every aspect of him… even though they don’t really date as she and Dahlia still swap places! Dahlia however ofc had to disguise as Iris and date Phoenix for a while and she absolutely hated how sappy and sweet he is. He reminds her of Iris, almost, and it’s sickening.
When Dahlia and Phoenix meet again in BTTT, she’s rather cold and hostile, which throws Phoenix off because now he’s like… well maybe that isn’t the sweet girl I dated after all. And he's kinda right! Dahlia's sweetness is only an act! Even though they were in fact dating.
#phoenix.txt#gasks#hawthorne swap au#ace attorney#sister iris#iris hawthorne#dahlia hawthorne#phoenix wright#valerie hawthorne#terry fawles
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Dahlia Hawthorne is just... SUCH a good character.
Like, on the one hand, she's such a fun villain. She's cruel, and seems to delight in it, and her appearance lends itself so well to so much cool imagery: the butterflies, the poison, the appearance of an angel vs. the reality of a demon, etc, etc, etc.
But on the other hand, the second you start to dig around in her backstory, she becomes SO nuanced and tragic. She was Morgan's daughter and possibly her eldest, so was she originally slated to be the next Master of Kurain? Did Morgan treat her the same way she treated Pearl? Does she resent Mia at first because Mia got to have that title instead (and then threw it away)?
And she was FOURTEEN when the events that kickstarted the Fawles trial happened. Fawles frames their relationship as one of mutual love but can we really trust him? She was FOURTEEN and he was supposed to be tutoring her. Did she tell Valerie? Did she even plan to make it out of Eagle River? How did she feel when it was Mia -- her own cousin, of all people -- defending him? How did she feel when Diego wouldn't let her leave all of that behind her?
Then she's on death row, and her mother, who she probably hasn't seen since she was a child, is meeting with her not to console her at the end of her life, but to plot revenge. And what else can Dahlia say? What else does she have, except revenge? She's tried so hard to run away from her bad luck, and be someone she isn't, and all that she's gotten for her efforts is a grave she dug herself.
Except even THAT doesn't go right, and the last thing she sees is her cousin telling her that she can never change. She is forever trapped as Dahlia Hawthorne -- a girl whose own identity and hopes we never really get to know.
(Does she even remember what they were herself?)
#I am once again thinking about the tragedy of Dahlia Hawthorne#she's honestly one of my all-time favorite characters#ace attorney#dahlia hawthorne#rambles#mia fey#terry fawles#one day I'll write a full fic that's just a Dahlia character study I swear#character study
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#ace attorney#trials and tribulations#dahlia hawthorne#phoenix wright#terry fawles#feenie#fanart#my art#digital art#tarot art#op#art#major arcana#the devil tarot#aa tarot#the worm draws#really like the background#i tried a bunch of different stuff before settling on this onr
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Dear Curious Court Researcher,
Edgeworth was completely beside himself after that case. He was new, so I decided to let him work a few cases with me before taking on his next one.
I would have known she murdered her sister and given her two choices: either come clean and allow me to prosecute her or I can return Mr. Fawles back to his little cell, the whole murder would be played as an accident, and everyone would forget about this whole thing.
- Manfred von Karma
#Anonymous#Manfred von Karma#Miles Edgeworth#Dahlia Hawthorne#Terry Fawles#Valerie Hawthorne#Ace Attorney#Mod Commentary#Can't say if this would go the way MVK says but he would certainly be doing a lot of corruption
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Wait am I missing something??? Playing turnabout beginnings and he’s 25, says 5 years ago he and his girlfriend planned the kidnapping. Didn’t they mention the victim being 14?????? Am I going insane?
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listen dahlia's actions in bridge to the turnabout are another story but i gotta say i think her actions in turnabout beginnings are perfectly excusable. like if i was fourteen years old and living in an absolutely loveless family and my twenty one year old tutor started fawning all over me and calling me his "teen angel" i'd fake my own death and start a new life and let him be put on death row in the process as well. and manipulate him into drinking poison i'd do that too
#i do sympathize with her past situation and i don't blame her for taking drastic actions to get out of it#you gotta remember that if valerie hadn't threatened to expose the truth dahlia never would've killed anybody at all#she was perfectly fine! she was living her own life under her new name and she caused no trouble whatsoever#but then valerie threatened to expose the truth and send her potentially hurtling back into a life she didn't want#and so she took drastic action. like maybe it was overkill but i Get it i Understand#terry for sure had to die. i Understand though why she killed valerie why she tried to kill diego why she killed doug#why she tried to kill phoenix. like you haveeee to remember that for the majority of the things that happened to her#she was a teenager! coming from an abusive family and trying to get away from that!#and again bttt is an entirely different situation and i understand that. but the fawles debacle? another game entirely#and one i completely understand her actions in
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Listen I'm no Dahlia fan (other than as a character, she is an excellent character and I like her narrative effect) but
Sir you were 20 and she was 14. Jail for you. I no longer want to defend you. Miles can have the case.
#ace attorney#dahlia hawthorne#turnabout beginnings#terry fawles#ace attorney trials and tribulations
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SPOILERS FOR ACE ATTORNEY !!!!!!!!!
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ive been losing it ab this video for a while
#pheonix wright ace attorney#ace attorney#phoenix wright#feenie wright#feenie#dahlia hawthorne#dollie hawthorne#terry fawles#art#Youtube
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