#terfs get blocked

[deathtokillian]

How do they plan on enforcing trans bathroom bans? If someone doesn't look "woman enough" are you going to have them arrested? Bathroom bans hurt cis woman too you know. It hurt cis butch women, studs, and any masculine presenting woman. You can't always tell someone's gender by looking at them.

Also what about trans men? If you ban trans woman from the woman's bathroom, that means trans men now have to use the woman's bathroom right?

[0rb0t]

she her wolverine call that my favorite ex-man

[purpleflameb0i]

"Cross sex hormones are unnecessary !!!" Hey did you know that the fact that I might be able to go on HRT in just a few months has made me less s__cidal

[grsm-posi]

Idk who needs to hear this but you can’t just claim an entire group of people is rewriting history in order to discredit a certain aspect of history you don’t agree with. It’s not productive and is a perfect example of someone rewriting history btw.

There’s no lgb without the t. We’re a community for a reason. Instead of bickering about issues no individual has control of, let’s band together to eradicate these serious societal issues.

This isn’t discourse btw, just a proposed solution and a cry for unity. This community needs more unity.

Take care of yourselves and others. ✌️❤️

[jak--ash]

I've worked on overcoming a lot of internalized transphobia but the most prevalent thing that upsets me so deeply about being ftm is that I still find lesbians attractive. Feminine lesbians that are cute and soft and masculine lesbians that chop wood in forests and have cool swords and big muscles and poc stud lesbians and fat butch lesbians and all lesbians I love their love and community and it saddens me to know I would never be happy as a lesbian. I had to transition to live my life happily but it also so happens that the type of people I'm attracted to most likely arent interested in me. It makes me feel weird, almost predatory. I pass well and have a beard and stuff, and I dont want to have to change my appearance for anyone. Idk here's to hoping I find some really cool and sexy people regardless of their sexual orientation who want me like how I want them

[whatifiamunepipe]

As an additional criticism of "observed sex at birth," don't some people have that observation done before birth?* Like, isn't that what enables "gender reveal" parties during pregnancy? So it wouldn't even be osab, so often it would be osiu (observed sex in utero) and for some reason I think that might annoy terfs.

*I am by no means an expert here and can't really elaborate, I'm just aware that some people seem to get an estimate on the baby's supposed gender before that sucker even hits oxygen

the other day I was going through the blog of a self-identified terf who had shown up in my notifications, and I saw them say that they wanted people to stop using asab terminology (assigned sex at birth) and instead use osab (observed sex at birth). which like at a basic level is very funny - don’t like the words being used to describe your body, hm? I can’t imagine what that feels like - but it does reveal this very particular commitment that anti-trans and anti-intersex reactionaries have to insisting that sex is just a natural objective fact, that all sexual and gendered violence is a result of men neutrally observing and then responding to the self-evident sexual properties of women. As if the act of observation is not political! It is a request to naturalise the assumptions of the people doing the observing. More fundamentally, it is a request to enshrine through language the assumptions of patriarchy, that sex is a complete and distinct property of the body that can be observed without interpretation, that it is self-evident. Observation itself is defined as a complete process; any part of the object under investigation that is not in view of the observer is rendered irrelevant. Thank god we’re just talking about sex, a very simple element of the human body that is easily cordoned off from the body its attached to!

And of course this wilfully ignores an obvious part of why trans and intersex people call attention to the assigned nature of sex. “Observed sex at birth” is already the first step in the assignment process, it is already implicated in the act of assignment, because the ritual of observing sex at birth is based on the assumption that this is a part of the body that is uniquely worthy of observation. The obvious follow-up question is why is sex worthy of observation in the first place? What assumptions go into the calculation of ‘worthiness’? If it’s so worthy of observation, who gets to be the observer? What are the consequences of this observation process? And if this is so important, how you do record the results of this observation process? Through a series of administrative, medical, and legal assignment procedures, perhaps? What if someone makes a mistake carrying out these procedures? What if the observer observes something they aren’t expecting (and where do those expectations come from)? What if they can’t observe anything? What do they do?

If you take this distinction seriously, if you insist ‘observation’ is somehow less politically or socially contingent than ‘assignment,’ you are advocating for a horrifically nihilistic worldview, one in where the ‘observations’ society makes about sex are all made natural. It is a request that is based on a political pursuit to fully enshrine patriarchy as a natural part of human life. I observe that the subjugation of women produces adverse educational, social, economic, and medical outcomes for them - I guess it’s just because women are naturally inferior. I mean what else could it possibly be? The doctors did a genital inspection on them when they were a baby. It says F right here on the birth certificate

[scorpi-o-moon]

Whenever I see terf blogs that advertise being detransitioned I touch my screen and whisper that something horrible happened here.

[bonefall]

Anyway. Bi and Mspec Lesbians aren't a hotly "debated" topic or even new to queer culture, it's just the newest thing that bullies who REALLY want to be homophobic and even racist use to justify harassing gay people they don't like.

It's the thinnest possible veneer of progressive language wrapped around TERF and reactionary rhetoric so that they can feel righteous for forming an angry mob against vulnerable targets. If you're gullible enough to fall for the newest wave of bigotry within the queer community, and turn on your allies because they're "confusing" or "invading your spaces," the SAME way they turned on bi/pan labels, trans people, xenogenders, neopronouns, and aroace people before this, then get lost.

[ashidentshappen]

growing up as a cis girl the patriarchy told me “you’re a girl because of the way you were born, there is nothing you can do about this, you have no say in your gender” and i hated being a girl because it wasn’t my choice it was a prison and the trans community told me “you’re a girl because you say so, your view of yourself is the most important thing, if you change your mind that would be ok” and it made me proud to be a girl and feel empowered in my gender and i wasn’t trapped anymore and then terfs come along and tell me “you’re a girl because of the way you were born, there is nothing you can do about this, you have no say in your gender (but like in a woke way)” and they somehow expect me to be on their side?

[aishabellasbigblogofeverything]

I love it when women hate men. I love it when women are allowed to vent to each other about how horrible and creepy men are. I love it when women form friendships with and prioritize each other over relationships with men(whether they're attracted to them or not). I love it when women put men dni in their bios and on their nude photos and on posts on their blogs. I love it when women refuse to mollycoddle and accommodate entitled male feelings with "but this doesn't mean I hate all men, I know a few men who are great, I love my father/sons/brothers/uncles/male cousins/guy friends" I love it when women complain about men WITHOUT "not all men" being a disclaimer. I love it when women avoid socializing with/refuse to be around/befriend/get close to men because they know men can't be trusted. I love it when women make "kill all men" jokes. I love it when women offer absolutely no concern or care for men's feelings and if their misandry offends men whatsoever because why should we, men are the oppressor class who have raped and killed and abused us and kept us as subjugated as second-class citizens for millennia, they regularly mistreat us and the women in their own marginalized communities still every single day and make this world so much harder and more awful for us to be in, and if we choose to hate them and not spare them any sympathy then so be it, and I don't just mean "men as a class" either, you can be a woman who doesn't want to have anything to do with any man on an individual basis and completely cuts off men from her personal life too and ykw I will love and fucking support you in that because men deserve absolutely NOTHING from us. If they're so tough and strong then they can handle it just like they can handle being lonely. If you are a woman who hates men, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE A LESBIAN AND/OR A TRANS WOMAN, then just know that I love you. I love you, I support you, and you are safe here.

[clowningcrows]

lol just saw a lesbian nsft blog that has “men dni” on every single post and yet their pinned post says, “this doesnt include trans men, since that isn’t clear for some reason” like hello????

[commanderogerss]

weren't y'all making fun of twitter blue???

[aro-culture-is]

Not aro related (?), but I cams across "bioessentialism" in one of your posts and I have no idea what it means

...Dare I even ask? /lh

bioessentialism refers to the idea that your biology determines who you are. In the post you're referring to, it's about the ways in which TERFs (trans-exclusionary radical feminists) tend to believe that AGAB = biological sex = your gender = your personality. It is one component of TERFism, but not the sole ideology involved.

Some common bioessentialist beliefs:

AFAB (assigned female at birth, an event that happens to you) = biologically purer personality, less aggressive. This may lead to a belief that women (and they do mean AFAB folks) are inherently safe, cannot do wrong, or that they should be assumed innocent if a man (and they mean AMAB folks) is involved.

AMAB (assigned male at birth, likewise) = inherently more aggressive and dangerous personality traits. Some will play off the bioessentialism in this belief - specifically in the case of AMAB individuals - as something about them being socialized to be aggressive, but mysteriously this is incurable and cannot be fixed no matter what society we are talking about.

AGAB (assigned gender at birth) = biological sex = all the associated traits in whatever they believe these assigned genders should have. Intersex people, if ever, ever acknowledged, are only an error in being one sex, and this should be corrected. This means, in their views, that someone assigned male at birth has a penis and testes, a testosterone-based hormone system, does not have internal ovaries unknown or known to them, has XY chromosomes, is not insensitive to androgens, or any assortment of traits that could be broadly considered intersex, should an individual label themselves as such.

If you dive real deep, some of the more extreme TERF-bioessentialists believe that women are safest with only women, that all men are inherently predatory, and all sorts of fun things that definitely do not (/sarcasm) sound like a very trauma-based cult worldview. And frankly... like any cult or otherwise high-control group, you're best off avoiding arguing directly with them. Look into de-radicalization, de-programming, and de-escalation if you want to interact with or help these individuals.

[jak--ash]

Hey gender expansive people of tumblr I got a question.

TL;DR What are some good beginner sources on those(me) looking to read more about women's rights and gender queerness throughout history?

personal feelings rant under the cut

I've been transitioning for 5 years ftm. I like how t makes me feel. I like my flat chest. I like being associated with men and masculinity in day-to-day life.

. But I don't like how I'm seen by women, either effiminate and gay and they get surprised when I'm bi, or lumped in with All Men in a mean way. And I know, I get it, I'm not someone theyre complaining about. But it still gets under my skin. I feel like I started transitioning because of physical and sex dysphoria but now I kinda get social dyshoria from both angles. I don't like the new social rules that plague adulthood based on gender.

. I like feeling a little fruity but still primarily masc. And I feel like it's easier around straight guys than anyone else.

. I loved grilling and drinking beer with my cousins and uncle and being a grandson/nephew. I also loved going with the girls to pick wild raspberries.

. The only women I find attractive are lesbians and I feel so weird; I don't want to disrespect these lesbians, but I also feel like not going after lesbians cements my Maleness in a way I don't jive with. Sometimes I wonder if I'd change my gender just to be with a woman. I feel like my ideal woman is queer, or open minded enough to understand. Like I'm boyish and I'm masc and I want to be treated like a man. but I don't want to be treated like a cis man, but I'm so frustrated for being friendzoned like a gay man. But I like being a man with a man. I want to be queer with queer men. A guy with guys. But what am I when I'm by myself?

. When I'm not socializing, or dating, when I'm in my apartment, do I have a gender? How do I put this into a label? Why do I need a label? Why do I want people to know me? Do I want them to know the right me? I don't feel comfortable with being associated with nonbinary labels either. Im too scared to use they/them. I know it'll barely be used so why try. I don't want my gender to be a discussion. I don't really have a lot of friends and not really anyone i feel comfortable talking about it with. Sometimes I wish I had a cute gender neutral nickname.

. I find myself as of late trying to imagine how I wouldve lived in any past generation in this body and with this mind and am disturbed how many I think wouldve ended in suicide. I need to learn more about gender history. And butches.

. I think maybe that as I've been learning to unmask more in terms of neurodivergence, and moving from a heteronormative southern suburb, I find it less satisfying to associate with any gender. I'm not so sure it feels as innate as it once did, though I still experience sex dysphoria. My personality and desire to be queer and masculine haven't changed, but my desired expression has. My masculinity is so related to my queerness that I can't seperate them. I can't be masc without being queer and I can't be queer happily without being masc.

anyway. if you read this far, and you could understand any of this, good on ya.

[ink-the-artist]

why even engage with a terf, even jokingly, sarcastically, or to dunk on them? its just giving them a reaction and attention, thats all they want. i would say to block and report but reporting wont do shit, but still, why not just block and move on?

cuz its funny