#tbh i haven't been feeling very well mentally or physically for a handful of days now
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itās my birthday !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#im officially 25 i think we should freeze time now#also#if you don't mind me self-reflecting and venting on the tags a bit:#tbh i haven't been feeling very well mentally or physically for a handful of days now#something 'happened' that pretty much just shattered me for a bit lmao#'shattered me' sounds super dramatic but like. it is pretty much like that shdjshd#not sure if i want to share the details of that yet since i don't really talk much about my personal life#but yeah it's just been tough to pull myself together to exist and get things done#i ended up taking a bit of a break from drawing because of it#but i'll try to get back into the swing of things now!#birdays are days for h a p p i n e s s#cremanatalk
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I haven't read ACOSF yet, and tbh I'm rather rusty with the characters but it was really interesting to read your opinion on Elain! I feel there's a lot of complexity to her. And how she presents herself as well because as you said we literally have no chapters from hers or Lucien's POV and I think that's the important point to note because right now we're all just guessing and assuming her to be like Feyre, but she's not. People deal/show their traumas in different way and l think people expect Elain to deal with it as Feyre did. But, Feyres trauma and Elains are very different!
I don't really know what I'm saying. But I read your answer and it made me go 'oh... Huh!' in a good way, it sparked my curiosity! So thank you! But I think Elain perhaps is the most complex person with their trauma. I know people say 'oh Nesta is so different' but (I specialised in drama therapy so I love psycho analysis) and what Nesta did is self destructive to prevent relationships to avoid hurt or more emotions that she doesn't want to acknowledge (in my opinion!)
Elain just shuts down. She doesn't drink, she doesn't screw, she just remains in her garden which in itself says a lot! That's a very grounding way to handle trauma and not a lot of people are aware of that side!
So yeah I don't know what I'm saying but I think it's a really interesting discussion!
I have so many thoughts about Elain!Ā This took me a few days to get to because i knew I had a crapton of thoughts. So this is basically me using this ask to explain the way I see Elain post-acosf!
There are three important scenes in acosf off the top of my head: when Elain talks with Nesta and they fight, and then with Nesta and Feyre and she gets mad and leaves, and then Feyre and Rhys talk about her in their chapter. Weāre getting a lot more information about her, and for me, it wasnāt so much about who she is, but why we donāt know who she is.
So far, what weāve had is Feyreās and Nestaās POV. Even when Feyre and Lucien tried to help her in acowar, they were unable. So weāve never had anything about Elain from someone who didnāt grow up with her and experience the same trauma (such as becoming destitute, their motherās death, their father being beaten, the Cauldron, etc.)
The sisters do handle it very, very differently. And I think that at this point the fandom consensus is that Elain runs away from her problems, but I actually disagree, and partly because of what you mentioned - that she isnāt using those self-harming, destructive coping mechanisms. Nesta was avoiding her problems, hardcore. Itās absolutely possible that Elain avoids things, but I donāt think that she just runs from all of her problems because:
Elain grieves her father. Openly. She tries to accept the fact that it wasnāt her fault and that she couldnāt do anything about it. (See: her going to his grave in acofas, her first talk with Nesta in acosf.) Elain does not run from her grief, she doesnāt pretend it doesnāt exist, and she doesnāt hide it from others. As one of the most defining events weāve seen her go through in the series, thatās a pretty big deal.
Elain does not cling to unhealthy coping mechanisms. There could be ways that she does this that we are unaware of. She does seem like the type who would be really, really good at making people think sheās okay, all while sheās silently imploding. But we donāt know that yet?
Elain does not isolate herself.Ā
However, Elain definitely needs to deal with some stuff! She definitely needs to deal with Lucien, and she needs to have an actual talk with Nesta because I donāt remember a single satisfying resolution between those two in acosf. Not like Nesta had with Feyre.Ā
I have this idea that is purely based on Elainās line in acosf:
āI went into the Cauldron, too, you know. And it captured me. And yet somehow, all you think of is what myĀ trauma did to you.ā (pg. 233)
And then Feyre tells Nesta that yes, Elain was right.Ā
This is so so so sossosososos important. I cannot emphasize it enough. Elain is used to putting on a fake, smiling face because she doesnāt want the weight of her sistersā concern. She has been pretending to cope for so long - and tbf, she seems to have been doing better than Nesta - that people not only forget that she has suffered, but she doesnāt feel like she can even express that suffering.
Emotional labor often means negating oneās own feelings in order to acknowledge or tend to someone elseās. And that is Elainās major role, in the series. Feyre has been caring for everyoneās physical wellbeing (hunting), while Elainās role has been to care for everyoneās emotional wellbeing. But, like with most emotional labor, it has gone unnoticed.
Iāve made posts about emotional labor in the past (four years ago!!!!) but Iām gonna spare you the link because a lot of it was about a ship thatās no longer a ship, so here is the relevant content:
What I am talking about is the regulation of emotion - any time that you give comfort, are especially attentive to someoneās needs, stop thinking about how you feel in order to focus on how someone else feels, try to cheer someone up, make sure that they are taking care of themselves, try to allay their insecurities, etc. Basically, helping them with any sort of emotional distress.
You know those posts youāve seen, about women protecting menās egos constantly? Or about making time for self-care? Or about recognizing toxic relationships? That tell you āif X is being demanded of you in a relationship, get outā? Those are ALL about emotional labor, broadly speaking. They are warning you not to do more than you can handle, more than you need to do, because it can be harmful to you.
If you have ever been expected to make a person or people feel better any time you are around each other (including when they are angry, upset, anxious, ill, frustrated, insecure, etc.), you have performed emotional labor. Pretty much everyone has done this at some point, unless you are a completely insensitive jerk.
Notice, though, that I said expected to and any time you are around them ā this is where the problem comes in for YOU. This is not about just being there for a friend.
Making loved ones feel better is fantastic. Seeing people be polite and kind to one another makes my heart shine. That is not a problem in and of itself. That can be seen as emotional labor, but there are no requirements on you in those circumstances. This is something you are doing of your own free will.
The problem, again, is when this is expected, constantly, over time. Now, in my experience, the expectation is not necessarily coming from the other person. One of the problems with this type of labor is that not only do others expect women to perform these tasks, but women expect it of themselves.
Itās super easy to see this ā who is expected to take care of a child when they fall? Who is expected to baby-sit? Who did you want when you were sick as a child, mom or dad? Who is expected to be sensitive and pay attention to othersā emotions?
For more info on this idea specifically, read Of Woman Born by Adrienne Rich. As a woman, I realized how much work I had been performing and how much it was harming me and I justā¦ got real upset. She comes at this mostly from what a womanās role is expected to be within the family, and might actually be a bit outdated in that respect because I feel like family structures and dynamics are shifting (that is a totally un-academic evaluation of the situation, donāt quote me on that), but still, itās really informative.
While I was doing some research for this post I came across a peer-reviewed article about nursing and basically, high amounts of emotional labor led to anxiety and burn-out in those performing it. It literally will cost your mental health ā not to mention your time, energy, attention, and it often requires you to ignore your own needs (this last part came from me, not the article). On the other hand, high levels of emotional intelligence (being able to recognize your own and othersā emotional states) meant less emotional labor (and therefore less anxiety & burn-out). One of the most important things to realize is that while you are taking care of someone elseās emotional needs, your own are frequently unmet. That is why itās important to recognize this in yourself, not just in these characters.
So where does Elain fit in? Elain is the #1 emotional labor provider of the family, and she is about to freaking SNAP. I know, because once I realized how my trauma was hidden in order to spare someone else its consequences, I fucking SNAPPEd. Iāll also spare you the personal details, but Elain hasnāt beenĀ āokayā. She hasnāt beenĀ āboringā, or āniceā, orĀ āchosenā Feyre over Nesta. She has literally been unable to express herself because (and I am NOT blaming Nesta or Feyre or her father one bit) her familyās emotional state has been so fragile, there hasnāt been room for Elain to feel or express her emotions in years.Ā
In the feysand short, Rhys says:
I wonder if everyone has spent so long assuming Elain is sweet and innocent that she felt she had to be that way or else sheād disappoint you all.
And that completely tracks. Everyone has gotten used to Elain being not justĀ āniceā, but being the emotionally predictable one. The one they know they can go to for a smile. The one they can count on for never, ever making them realize that she has been through Some Shit Too. And being that person is exhausting.
When Feyre thinks about Elain not using Lucienās gloves, 1) she still has them, otherwise she couldnāt think about Elain not using them, and 2) I like to see the gloves as something that she will come to use, once she realizes that she can feel and express those emotions without it causing a breakdown in the family. Right now, she just wants to feel. And she canāt do that emotionally, so sheās doing it physically. Once she heals and finds a better balance, she wonāt need to resort to physical pain. (Which, lowkey has me thinking some other thoughts, but.... maybe later.) But anyway, once Elain doesĀ go through her very own special journey, I fully expect her to welcome those gloves. She wonāt need physical pain to feel anymore.
Not to mention my completely unacademic and non-professional opinion that people will judge a nice women harshly for being rude once, but accept a woman with a history of rudeness for justĀ ābeing that wayā. Itās another way that Elain may feel trapped in herĀ ānice girlā persona. I think she started out that way - kindness and light and generosity is 100% in Elainās character in the first place. Itās not as if she went into the Court of Nightmares and suddenly Cassian thought, āwait, she fits right in to this shithole of depravityā. No, he still thought the literal opposite. Itās just that once people get used to you doing all their emotional labor, they will continue to take advantage of it, even if they donāt realize its cost.
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hello! random question but i have read a lot of jalice fics lately (love cotn and your new one btw!!) and while i love the whole 'tortured jasper he can feel everyone's thirst bc of his gift' thing, there are some things that i feel like don't really count as emotions so he shouldn't be able to feel them per se (ie: thirst tbh, being lied to, betrayal). haven't read the books for a loooong time so idk if meyer ever went further into detail. but would love to see what u (and whoever else) think!
thank you! Iām glad you like my stories!
unpopular opinion or whatever but I actually donāt like theĀ āJasper can feelĀ everyoneās thirstā theory. likeā¦ at all. it doesnāt make sense. literally. thirst isnāt an emotion.
itās a cool concept for head canons and fan fictions and all but it makes no sense in canon. I know people use that as an excuse as to why heās bad at self-control around humans but I personally think we should just leave it atĀ āheās bad at it because he lived as a murder machine for the better part of a century and consumed so much human blood that humans will only ever look like oversized capri-suns to himā
like, let Jasper have his poor self-control and move on. jasper being the most vampiric of the Cullens makes him a more interesting character in my mind. the idea that he loves his family but still finds them fucking weirdĀ just warms my dumb heart.
on the topic of his ability, please strap in because I have so many thoughts about Jasper and his pathokinesis:
I really think Stephenie Meyer could have done a lot more with Jasperās gift. Jasper could have been so fucking cool.Ā when you think about his ability it really should have no effect on Bella bc sheās this ~crazy powerful shield~ or whatever. but it does. maybe itās because smeyer didnāt plan Bellaās ability until after twilight (which would make sense and is likely what happened) but it leaves a pretty big hole in the wholeĀ āBellaās mental shield is unmatched in strength!ā thing they tried selling. I mean, Alice can see her future, Jasper can sense/control her emotions. impenetrable mental shield my ass? like? hello?
the only way this could make sense in-canon is if we found out that Jasperās ability was farā¦ scarier then weāve all been led to believe. I once read someoneās postĀ on here and they were likeĀ āwhat? does he just fiddle their fucking brains until the right neurochemicals are released?ā and honestly, yeah, I think thatās kind of what happens. and I know that sounds crazy but LISTEN.
if Jasperās power is physical, not mental, like smeyer tried explaining, then suddenly we have the scariest character in the entire series on our hands. like, just listen to the potential that that hasā¦
weāre told that the reason Jane canāt inflict her gift on Bella is because Jane only provides you with the illusion of pain. but you still feel it, right? thatās because Jane tricks the brain into thinking itās on fire, or whatever the experience is supposed to feel like. but again: itās an illusion. itās not real. Jane stops and the victim is virtually unharmed, because itās all in their head, right? ifĀ Iām not misremembering,Ā Edward bounces right back in New Moon, right?
the same goes for Alec. and with Aro, since Bellaās shield is mental of course heād be blocked out. same with Edward. Eleazar can probably sense Bellaās shield because heās probably seeing itāmaybe as an aura, who knowsāand I guess Alice can seeĀ Bellaās future cause sheās witnessing her physical presence in the future. these all have explanations. if the explanation for Jasper is that he can actually physically effect the brain then suddenly we have an ability that really should also be able to do what Jane andĀ Alecās abilities do.
I mean can we please talk about how sleepiness/being tired isnāt an emotion. and literally in twilight jasper fucking PUTS BELLAāS WHOLE ASSĀ TO SLEEP??? like??? HELLO?????!
falling asleep isnāt something that solely happens in your brain (as far as Iām awareāanyone proficient in neuroscience is welcome to correct me). itās a physical process as well because the states of both the brain and body change.
if he can make a human fall asleep, solely by controlling whatever process happens in the brain to, yāknow, shut it down for a period, why canāt Jasper do what Alec does? and if he can make a human fall asleep, why wouldnāt he be able to do something on the other end of the spectrum? like, I donāt know, induce some sort of physical injury. something that could cause a heart attack, stroke, or aneurysm.
because if Jasper is physically manipulating peopleās brains and bodies then by all means he should be able to control so much more than feelings. I mean, he already isĀ controlling more than emotions and weāre shown that already in TWILIGHT! at the very BEGINNING of the series!!
if he can physically manipulate people, thatās TERRIFYING!! and letās be real I am HERE for itā¦
just picture with me real quick a Jasper who (isnāt a dumbass)Ā eventually realizes that, waitā¦ I shouldnāt be able to put humans to sleep or accelerate or decrease heart rates like this because thatāsā¦. completely unrelated to feelings and emotions and um? what???? and suddenly Jasper realizes he has the ability to induce headaches and muscle spasms and cramps not just in humans but in vampires. and suddenly this is a total game changer yāall.
and remember, itās not a one-way street with his gift. he can sense things too. it starts off with feelings, because those are easiest to sense off of other people. but then he starts being really good at sensing intentions. and then suddenly heās reacting to what someoneās done before theyāve done it. I could go on all day about how crazy his potential ability could develop in canon and how COOL it is but Iāll justā¦. stop thereā¦. and let yāall imagine the rest (or add on, if you want to)ā¦..
tldr: jasperās ability has more to do with actual manipulation of the body and less to do withĀ ācontrolling emotionsā andĀ Iām convinced the motherfucker has the potential to be the actual scariest vampire in the series
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because I really haven't taken a survey in years - I miss MySpace bulletin board or whatever, lmao.
1. Whatās one thing thatās happened to you that has made you a stronger person?āØā¢ I'm not sure, honestly. I was in a severely abusive relationship for well over 4 years, ending in January when he was incarcerated for brutally beating me, raping me, & attacking me, all with our two children present. Our 5 year anniversary would be in a few days, the 28th. š Truthfully, I don't know if I'm stronger, but I definitely know that I'll never tolerate anything like that again. Never. 2. Whatās one thing thatās happened to you in your life that made you feel weak?āØā¢ being abused over & over again, physically, emotionally, sexually. All in front of my children. I feel pathetic, weak, & disgusted with myself to have kept taking him back.. 3. Where is one place you feel most like yourself?āØā¢ uh, well. I don't know. I feel trapped in the house I live in with my parents & 2 kids, but that's because of what Luis did to me in my very bedroom - on my bed - and in my kitchen + living room. I feel HAPPIEST at the park or library with the kiddos. Or outside in general. 4. Where is your favorite place to escape to?āØā¢ outside with my kids, walking up the dirt driveway. š 5. Who do you think has had the largest influence on the person you are today?āØā¢ my kids' father. He's made me the MESS I am today.. 6. If you could change one thing about yourself what would it be?āØā¢ I can't just name one thing. I hate my mental health issues (severe anxiety, depression, & ADHD), dealing with constant migraines, the fact that I don't have a car, & the way I'm constantly beating myself up about everything. 7. If you had one day left to live, what would you do first?āØā¢ hmm. Take my kiddos to an amusement park or somewhere fun for kiddos. šø 8. What decade do you feel you most belong in?āØā¢ none. š they're all awful tbh. The only one I kinda like is the 1980's. 9. Who are you closest to in your family? Why?āØā¢ my children, of course š©āš§āš¦ I birthed them, ya know š¤°š¼ But aside from my kiddos, I guess my mother. We butt heads a lot, but she's a very strong & motivated person. My sis & I used to be close.... it hurts. 10. Who is the one person in this world that knows you best?āØā¢ no one, shit I hardly know myself. š
š¼ 11. What is your favorite quality about your best friend?āØā¢ how they grew inside of me, came from my body, love me unconditionally, & NEVER want to leave my side. š if y'all can't tell who I'm talking about, that'd be my 2 darling babies. ššš 12. When you were younger what did you think you were going to be when you grew up?āØā¢ as a youngin', I wanted to be a teacher. Then as I got a lil older, I desired to be a Psychologist. But then I fell pregnant with Miranda & only took one semester in college.. 13. If you could identify with one fictional character (from a book, show, or movie) who would it be?āØā¢ honestly not sure. 14. Do you easily accept compliments? Or do you hate compliments?āØā¢ oh, who doesn't love compliments. They're brighten your spirit. Especially seeing as I suffered years of being told that I'm bad looking š but I'm also extremely self-conscious & awkward when I receive a compliment, so š tis the anxiety. 15. Is your favorite attribute about yourself physical or non-physical?āØā¢ I guess non-physical? I like how understanding and caring I am. I tend to care too much, tho. 16. What is your favorite attribute about yourself?āØā¢ I'm caring. 17. What is your favorite non-physical attribute about yourself?āØā¢ I've literally just said that šš 18. Do you believe in love at first sight?āØā¢ I used to believe that anything was possible, until I met a monster who destroyed all my positivity. 19. Do you believe in soul mates?āØā¢ don't think so. 20. How seriously do you take horoscopes?āØā¢ I don't really check them lol. 21. Have you ever been in love? How many times?āØā¢ true, blindly, awful love: once. Puppy love: twice. 22. What makes you fall in love with someone?āØā¢ everything.... š 23. What does vulnerability mean to you? What has the ability to make you vulnerable?āØā¢ vulnerability just perfectly describe me currently. I'm fairly low in my emotions, so yeah. My kids' dad is who always made me feel that way. Also heartbreak, being betrayed, & embarrassment make me feel like that. 24. Whatās one thing youāre scared to ask a man, but really want to?āØā¢ ain't nothing to scary to ask a man š¤š¬ 25. If you were a man for a day, what would be the first thing you do?āØā¢ nothing lol I have no desire to be a man. š³ 26. What do you find most attractive about each sex? * men would be probably their eyes, smile, hands, arms, build. women would be their hair, eyes, smile, passion, body. 27. Whatās one thing youād love to learn more about?āØā¢ psychology. 28. What is something youāve never done that youāve always wanted to do?āØā¢ take my kids to the beach. šāļøšš¼āāļøš£š½āāļø I've been before, a handful of times in my childhood & teenager years, but not since I was 17 with my mother, my ex (their dad), & a few other people. I would be so incredibly happy to take my babies to the beach, lie out in the sand & tan while we build sand castles & then take off running to the water to swim ššš¤ Another thing I'd love to do is go on a cruise. I want to travel the world someday, also. I want to rock climb. Attempt to surf or ski. šš¼āāļøāøā· Even like to try to ride a horse. šš¼ I want to take self-defense classes š„š„š¤¼āāļø that'll protect me & my kids once my ex does get released. I ALWAYS wanted to learn how to play the piano or keyboard š¹ I wanted to learn to ACTUALLY dance, take dance lessons & also I'm OBSESSED with gymnastics. But since I'm in my twenties, I'll settle for asking my babygirl to join gymnastics š¤øš½āāļø & just maybe, she'll become an Olympian š„šš
hehe. I played softball for 7 years. I hope so much that my kiddos are athletic šš
29. Why havenāt you done it yet?āØā¢ because that's A LOT of stuff, & I don't have the šµš°šø for all that. Kids are expensive lil creatures, ya know. š¤ but so worth it. šš 30. If money didnāt matter, what would your dream job be?āØā¢ I definitely would love to go into Photography. š¤šøš„š± honestly, I want to be a Psychologist & earn my PhD, but that's so many years in school. With two kids, that's going to be fairly difficult when my main focus & top priority is them. I dunno. I have even considered nursing because it's only 2 years in school, fair pair, good insurance, & different hours. 31. If you had off from work today, what would you do?āØā¢ I don't have a job currently. Just a stay-at-home mama. It's 7:35am. I've done nothing but stay up all night, lying on the couch, playing on my phone or tablet. šš¤·š¼āāļø I'll regret it later š¤¦š¼āāļøš
32. What was the last thing that made you cry?āØā¢ some dude. Talking about how I need to get over what Luis did to me because it's "in the past" && how I'm not a perfect mother basically. Here's this: Eff You š¤š 33. What was the last thing that made you laugh?āØā¢ my son. š his smile & laughter are contagious š¶š½ 34. What is your favorite memory?āØā¢ the first time I held each of my child, most definitely. š also, the first time I ever breastfed them, kissed them, & pretty much all of the good memories with them. šš 35. Whatās the last thing that REALLY embarrassed you?āØā¢ I'm VERY easily embarrassed, like it's terrible. So, there's no telling. Everything literally bothers or embarrasses me. #anxietyproblems 36. What is your biggest fear?āØā¢ losing my children. death. my ex. 37. Do you have any regrets? Whatās your biggest one?āØā¢ yes, I have 2 very big ones. The first regret I have is taking Luis back AFTER I left him for around 2.5 months. I was newly pregnant with Leonardo, like maybe 3 months pregnant but had only just found out a few weeks before. He attacked me, and I called my dad. Left him & only took Miranda to see him during daytime in broad daylight, never was alone with him for too long, & did not spend the night. The second regret I have is letting him come in my window the morning he intended on killing me.. 38. Have you ever broken a law? If you havenāt what is one law youād love to break?āØā¢ of course I have. I've been arrested before š¤¦š¼āāļøš
š¼ All to protect my piece of shit ex because HE ditched my car while drunk. It taught me a valuable lesson, though. I didn't drink after that & still don't. He, on the other hand, didn't learn anything. I ended up with obstruction of justice charges & underaged possession šš¼ I had 100 hours of fucking community service!!! Had to even take an AA class & driving class EVEN after they found out I wasn't driving. Oh, & the magistrate wanted to lock me up for 10 days to "teach" me a lesson about lying to authority š 39. What is the craziest thing youāve ever done? * stay with my ex. 40. Would you have a conversation with a stranger?āØā¢ sure would. would give me anxiety, but some people need their day brightened. 41. Would you tell a stranger they have toilet paper hanging from their shoe? Or their dress tucked into their underwear? (Or anything else that is embarrassing to be seen in public)? * yup sure would. 42. Whatās your favorite joke? * I'm not sure . 43. Are you a dog person or a cat person?āØā¢ can I be both & neither š I love animals, but all of my babies have passed away. I used to have a ferret, who passed in December. She was my girl šš miss my Loca Luna. š¾ 44. If you could be any animal, what animal would you be?āØā¢ a cat š± 45. Whatās one show, movie, or book, youāre embarrassed to admit you enjoy?āØā¢ Jerry Springer & Maury šš 46. How do you think your parents would describe you as a child?āØā¢ like Angelica from the Rugrats š§š¼ 47. If you could go back to any age or time of your life, what age or time would it be?āØā¢ when I was like 18 & pregnant. Everything was so new & exciting. I loved my ex with all of my heart, too. So blind. 48. Whatās something you believe in that not everyone else does?āØā¢ that women have the right to their own bodies. & that borders are imaginary lines that were only created after this country was stolen from the indigenous people.. 49. Whatās one thing you would say that makes you unique from other people?āØā¢ I'm a single mommy who's been through hell & back but am surviving && thriving š 50. What is one thing you feel your life is missing?āØā¢ a vehicle ..
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