#tbh I think tommy's fans should've just never talked about it outside of their circles

[oceansquill]

Okay, someone uploaded the ~10 minute dream portion of the podcast - I'll link it in the comments. Here's a summary

the main story:

Starts with Phil saying that when the "their nda's are done they can talk shit now" jokes were going on, he said that when he retired he'd give context to the "imagine taking credit..." tweet

Tommy says he'd "never been in an argument with anyone before" so he was really stressed at the time

at the time tommy was in a call with eryn, jack, tubbo, and freddie and they were egging him on

from tommy's pov, dream got really personal so tommy wasn't sure if he was serious or not

Tommy contacted phil for help, phil decided to find out

other stuff:

tommy joked about there being red flags, jack and phil agreed - jack claimed he had a bad feeling from the start

the infamous part of it was "I vowed never to be horrible to dream again" "it's not worth it, it makes me too sad"

apparently jack was aggravated by dream one week into the smp and figured he was a bad person from then on (also said dream doesn't like him and was clear about that - corroborated by tommy)

jack gives dream credit for giving him the dsmp opportunity and "individual acts of kindness" but thinks that he takes ownership of other peoples' works because he helped (and doesn't like him because of that)

at the end jack said the words came out harsher than intended, he just really does not like dream

jack said if there were dream fans in the patreons he thinks they're "fighters" and says hats off to them

tommy says he done with all the behind the scenes drama so he only works with like 4 people now

phil says he has no animosity towards dream, just disdain for a lot of things he's done behind the scenes

jack says he'd be civil to dream if he saw him

says he feels bad airing "all that out online"