#suiryu isn't self righteous at all and therefore isn't even capable of being a hypocrite because he introduces himself as a hedonistic bitch
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breaking my silence to say i really do not understand the extreme vitriol towards suiryu. like, at all. yeah, he’s annoying, and also a showboating asshole, but in such an innocuous way. yes, the truck thing was lame af, but have we forgotten that other heroes literally tried to murder garou with zero hesitation? tanktop master tried to kill him based on a feeling. metal bat tried to kill him after the fight was already over and garou’s back was turned. genos tried to burn garou alive without a second thought. and if you want to make the case that this is acceptable/forgivable because they thought garou was genuinely dangerous, then why is it somehow weird that suiryu would also think this, especially since it’s apparently common knowledge that garou kicked the S class’s asses?? now, is that why suiryu went after garou? nah, it was for glory. but again...he is far from the only character to exhibit this trait.
i think suiryu (and the neo heroes) function as commentary on how heroes can easily abuse their authority if they’re mindlessly being violent towards people who have been typecast into a specific role. just like death gatling was commentary on how hubris and insecurity can manifest in ways that are actively detrimental to heroism. and just like how the S class calling for garou’s execution was commentary on how inhumane people can be when they feel threatened. or how fubuki is commentary on how heroes can abuse their status to form a cult to bolster their ego. suiryu going after garou felt like it was drawing attention to garou’s critique that heroes often mindlessly obey orders and roles. “oh, you said this dude needs to be captured? cool, i’ll just do it without thinking about it, and i’m okay with violence if it’s directed at someone who’s ‘bad.’“ yes, that’s wrong. but again. the hero association’s heroes did the exact same shit?! which the story also critiqued?????
pretty much every character is severely flawed, and suiryu’s flaws have been demonstrated to be just...not that serious or unresolvable. in fact, i’d say suiryu’s flaws are extraordinarily mild compared to the majority of the cast. his flaws are just that he’s arrogant and shallow and a bully. but dude, we have a hero who is a serial rapist and other heroes who are legit murderers who don’t get as much hate as suiryu. you cannot make any reasonable case that suiryu being a douchebag fuckboy is worse than being a murderer (or even a hero hunter, tbh, and i love garou to bits).
in fact, i appreciated that he wasn’t trying to kill garou, and actually tried very hard to pull his punches when he realized it was out of control. that is way more than i can say for the majority of the heroes. i’ve long been extremely bitter about how self righteous the heroes were without reflecting on how quick they were to try to murder a person, which is literally being criticized by the narrative. and everyone has a million excuses about why it’s not that bad. (it is btw.) but apparently suiryu smashing a truck is too far? what? what are you talking about?? even if we’re strictly talking property damage, tatsumaki is insanely careless about collateral damage.
the gouketsu battle was already waaaay over the top for humbling a character, especially when you consider that other characters have done way, way worse things and gotten away with a slap on the wrist. ONE said the scene was supposed to convey despair, and it totally did. i don’t see how you can watch this dude being brutalized and tortured in a way no other character has been, and come away with “yeah he deserved it.” what? how can you possibly feel this way about suiryu, and suiryu alone?
i just think it’s so bizarre that people are more willing to forgive characters for all manner of fucked up bullshit, but draw the line at suiryu. like...really? what am i missing here? seriously, name one thing suiryu has done that is uniquely bad. name one thing he’s done to justify people wanting him to fucking die???
TLDR suiryu is literally just some guy, and is frankly pretty harmless. there is nothing uniquely wrong with him. nothing.
#holy shit i can't believe this ended up being this long. i guess i really did need to vent lmao#i love suiryu and am therefore biased but half of why i like him is because of how silly his behavior is.#suiryu#opm#he's not as legitimately dangerous to society as bang was#he's not anywhere near as malicious and homicidal as flashy#not as frankly unpalatable as puri#not as egotistical as fubuki#not as careless as tatusmaki#is it just because he isn't demonstrating heroic traits yet??#because blue fire didn't demonstrate jack shit aside from burning bystanders alive and rushing to murder and people still made excuses#suiryu isn't self righteous at all and therefore isn't even capable of being a hypocrite because he introduces himself as a hedonistic bitch#like seriously i don't get it at all. i've tried to get it and i don't.#that's my meow meow? that's my peace sign throwing toxic soundcloud fuckboy? hello?#anyways#my hot take is that suiryu does not deserve even 80% of the hate he gets#and this is yet another thing that western and eastern fandom massively diverge on#which makes me genuinely wonder why#like honestly the uncharitable way people read suiryu reminds me of how dudebros on reddit read garou#it's just not consistent with what the story is actually doing or saying#and how can you still hate suiryu when the manga literally fixed him. which signals that he's fixable. and not even remotely a villain#webcomic spoilers#p
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