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Arya and Dany stans: *discuss the likelihood that they'll have a positive relationship given their parallels, foreshadowing, status as key characters, and being two of George's favorite characters*
Stansas: Is this Sansa shade?


I think it's hilarious that Stansas got mad at me for (accurately) pointing out that they accuse Arya and Dany stans of being motivated by Sansa hate simply because...we get along and like both of them lol. The idea of them getting along is about their characters and has nothing to do with Sansa. Just because they pit Dany and Arya against each other for Sansa's sake doesn't mean we're motivated by the same thing. Are there some conversations that bring up Sansa + Arya's strained relationship? Absolutely, that isn't baseless in the books considering they're written as foils and George has already said they have issues they need to work out. The "Stark sisters 4ever" fantasy they have is just that, and it's funny we never see this same energy for Arya being turned into a prop for her sister 🤔. Sisterhood didn't stop Sansa from siding with Joffrey, telling Cersei that Arya was a traitor (even though she had no idea where Arya was), or calling Arya unsatisfactory when she thought that she was dead so why are we supposed to pretend it's an all-important factor when discussing Arya's potential relationships with other characters?
#arya stark#daenerys targeryan#anti sansa stans#fandom forever talking about how the sisters writing is misogynistic but when we acknowledge that conflict it's an issue#yes Arya loves her sister but that doesn't mean all of their issues are going to magically disappear when they reunite and this is somethin#we were explicitly told by the author! guess we're supposed to just ignore what he said cause it doesn't fit fanon though#this idea that we're constantly thinking about Sansa and forming our opinions to spite her is so insane I can't#we can't even like two female characters without it being turned into a conspiracy theory 😭#the real issue is that they can't stand that we talk about Arya as her own character and not just a prop for Sansa#cause where's this energy for the Stansas and /supposed/ Arya stans who come together to hate on Dany??#or for the ones who erase Arya's entire story and mold her into a prop whose only purpose is to serve Sansa?
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The two most common criticisms I see of Dany are quite contradictory
1.) She's too vicious
2.) She ignores her advisors
But these can't both be true, because her advisors are constantly pushing her to be harsher, less forgiving, less trusting, more violent...
Make it make sense.
Is Dany perfect? Of course not. She has moments that scare me, but she has more moments that inspire me.
#daenerys targaryen#dany#I don't know what they want from her#I saw someone claim that she can't be just a girl and also a queen but then they also stanned joffrey so...?#i hope that she ends up happy and safe#ideally with the stark sisters and brienne nearby but that might be too much to hope for
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god tywin lannister deserved worse
just remembering elias death and i wanna puke and the way tywin talks about elia and what happened is so damn gross
but rip tommen and myrcella we all know what’s about to happen in the next book :/
the cycle of violence just keeps spinning and damn you tywin for beginning it
(i got a bit crazy in the tags 💀)
#rest in peace elia and rhaenys#i’m one of those crazy ppl who thinks jaqen h’ghar is aegon 💀#literally lost the teeny tiny amount of credibility i had#anyways i think doran’s in on it and i think rhaegar switched out asharas child for aegon paralleling the baby swap jon does#the pact made in braavos about viserys and dany marriages is a half truth half lie#and arianne being sent to faegon is simply doran testing his heir. if she messes up then whoever’s spying for doran will correct her#gerold dayne knows too much that’s why doran thinks he’s too dangerous#but this would make the dornish plot sooooo much more interesting and would show that no doran hasn’t been doing nothing#it would also automatically make the daynes more important#jaqen (aegon) was in kings landing to kill robert but got caught by varys. syrio was sent to find him. ned cleared out the black cells tho#saving aegon in the process. fun how we’re actually introduced to this character through lyanna starks mini me arya#aegon was able to kill robert with a boar tho so mission accomplished.#now he’s in old town trying to hatch his dragon egg. the stone beast taking flight in danys vision is aegon being symbolically depicted…#..as a spinx#i’m crazy delusional. but ppl who think faegon is actually aegon are even more delusional than me#plus the real aegon being alive fulfills the suns son part of quaithes warnings#i like this theory bc it makes the dorne plot more interesting and it explains whatever is going on with jaqen h’ghar cause he is sus#yes yes i know i’m delusional 💀 i just think it’d be a very interesting twist#kinda hoping no one sees this post at this point bc i know no one will take this theory well lol#i do think this theory can be supported by the text tho#and cerseis throw away line about ned stealing asharas baby would suddenly become peak foreshadowing#barristan comparign dany to ashara would also be peak foreshadowing bc ashara would take the place of gilly in this parallel and she was dis#dishonored by someone at harrenhall. likely aerys and then she turned to a stark probably brandon for comfort#tbh i think it was ashara who lied to brandon about what happened to lyanna. perhaps she was trying to mess with brandon’s wedding and#was trying to get back at rhaegar for humiliating elia at the tourney. i highly doubt it was baelish who lied to brandon cause brandon#has little reason to believe him and no reason to trust him. ashara tho? arthur daynes sister and elias lady in waiting? also his lover?#anyways varys the spider potentially stealing aegon away (if he did take a child it was the false aegon) is there to parallel the others#who ride ice spiders taking crasters sons. tbh i think it was aegon who decided he wanted to train as a faceless man so he could get revenge#on his own terms. and the sea lord of braavos at the time was in on it and helped aegon with his plans#the unveiling coming up is going to be a lot more important than arya just reclaiming her identity. yes im delusional lmao. rant over
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Every time someone tries to compliment the stark girls there always going to be an annoying ant putting them against each other in the comments, y'all do realize you got beef with characters that would literally be in middle school? You have beef with middle schoolers
#arya stark#sansa stark#house stark#and its not just them 😭 heaven forbid you like both dany and jon#asoiaf#adults in the asoiaf fandom when little kids act like like kids: 😨#some of y'all do not have sisters and it shows 💀#a song of ice and fire#“Sansa is so dumb how could she have not predicted the family her honorable father betrothed her to was in fact *gasp* evil?”#“Arya is described as ugly! Yep totally she is ugly and its totally not her own insecurity and she's totally not said to look like Lyanna”
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DP X Marvel #19
Pepper Potts prided herself on her ability to adapt. She’d survived Tony Stark’s post-cave existentialism, Stark Expo 2010, the entirety of the Avengers Initiative, and several global cataclysms. But nothing—absolutely nothing—prepared her for the day she received a glowing scroll via flaming raven at 3 a.m. It exploded into glitter and legal jargon the second she touched it.
The Temporal Child Reassignment Authority—TCRA for short, like an IRS from hell with better penmanship—had declared her the legal guardian of four de-aged minors, all results of an “interdimensional ghost war and subsequent reality collapse.” The document even included a family tree, pointing out her half-sister Maddie Fenton as their maternal parent. The kicker? Three of the children were meta-class ecto-beings. And the fourth was an “anomalous prodigy with cognitive potential exceeding known human thresholds.”
Pepper blinked at the words, reread them, and poured herself the strongest wine she owned.
By the time she finished the bottle, her living room shimmered with unnatural frost, and a swirling green portal opened with the subtlety of a chainsaw. Out stumbled four children—if one could use such a soft word for what appeared to be three weapons of mass destruction and a tiny, furious psychologist in the making.
Jazz was nine years old, with blazing red hair in a ponytail so tight it looked like a weapon. Her eyes scanned the room with military precision. She was holding a notebook, already scribbling down assessments.
Dan, aged seven, had black-and-white hair that flickered between forms, red eyes glowing faintly, and a permanent scowl that screamed war criminal in a booster seat. His tiny boot crushed a Stark Industries coaster underfoot.
Danny, five, looked like an overcaffeinated sugar cube in a “Ghostbusters are Bigots” shirt. He levitated six inches off the ground, phasing through the coffee table like it offended him personally.
And Dani—dear sweet baby Dani—was three, wore a tutu over her jumpsuit, and was gnawing on a Stark tech screwdriver like a teething raptor. It sparked. She giggled.
Pepper stared.
Tony wandered in wearing Iron Man pajama pants and blinked at the chaos.
“Huh. Why do I suddenly feel like a dad?”
Pepper stood up and handed him the scroll.
Ten minutes later, Tony was grinning like a proud, chaotic uncle who just realized he’d inherited a feral army. “Oh, I love them.”
“I want to kill Maddie,” Pepper muttered. “I want to re-kill her if she’s already dead. I don’t care. I will unearth her soul and yell.”
Jazz looked up from her notes. “Statistically, yelling is ineffective when dealing with narcissistic sociopaths with academic degrees. But I can write up an interrogation protocol if you give me twenty minutes and a war room.”
Tony looked at her like she was a gift from God. “Pepper. She’s a baby you.”
“She’s a terrifying baby me.”
“I love her.”
Dan crossed his arms, floating ominously. “I’m only here because they said I can’t go back to the timeline where I killed everyone.”
Dani beamed. “I like juice!”
Danny phased up to the ceiling fan. “Does this house have ghost-repellent death lasers like the last one? I hate those.”
Tony raised an eyebrow. “You got hit by ghost-repellent death lasers?”
Pepper was already dialing every Avenger in existence. “Tony. Tony, their parents worked with the GIW.”
“The what?”
Jazz narrowed her eyes. “The Ghost Investigation Ward. They are basically interdimensional fascists who want to wipe out all ghosts and hybrid anomalies. Also, they tried to vivisect us.”
Tony blinked. “Vivisect?”
“Scalpels, restraints, anti-ecto shackles, and a man named Agent O who smells like ham and crime,” Jazz said flatly.
“I’m going to kill someone,” Pepper muttered, pacing. “I’m going to launch an HR-approved war.”
Dani blinked. “Are we allowed to bite?”
“No,” Pepper said.
“Yes,” Tony said at the same time.
Dani cheered.
By the time Natasha arrived, Dani was in the air vents, Danny had short-circuited the AI, Dan was brooding in the fireplace like a Dickensian ghost of vengeance, and Jazz was lecturing FRIDAY on ethical protocol failure.
Natasha stood in the entryway, staring, her eyes wide with either horror or admiration.
“Pepper. Did you birth little Widows?”
“No,” Pepper said tightly. “They’re Maddie’s kids. Maddie’s. As in, I share DNA with them and now legally own them. Apparently.”
Jazz tilted her head. “Ms. Romanoff. I’ve analyzed your fight patterns from Battle of New York and determined you have unresolved trauma related to institutional betrayal. Would you like to unpack that?”
Tony leaned over. “She’s nine.”
“She scares me,” Natasha whispered.
Bucky showed up next and read the full report Jazz had printed out for him, complete with footnotes, photos, and color-coded trauma timelines.
The super soldier sat down, dead-eyed. “I just had a Hydra flashback from a PowerPoint.”
Jazz gave him a lollipop. “That’s a common symptom. I recommend candy and validation.”
Dan muttered something about weak mortals and floated upside down through a wall.
“I like him,” Bucky said faintly.
Steve walked in, saw Dan breathing ectoplasmic fire at the neighbor’s cat, and noped back out.
Wanda arrived and blinked at Jazz, whose psychic aura flared like a dying star every time she got emotional.
They stared at each other for a long time.
“I sense wrath,” Wanda said.
Jazz nodded. “I contain multitudes.”
Pepper was halfway through arranging a legal drone strike on the GIW when Rhodey FaceTimed her. “Hey, uh, why is CNN reporting that four tiny gods have occupied New York and turned the Stark Tower into a haunted war bunker?”
“They’re children,” Pepper said.
Tony poked his head into frame. “Children who can melt tanks.”
Danny flew by holding the Iron Man helmet upside down like a bowl of cereal.
“Dani just set the couch on fire,” Pepper added, dead-eyed.
Rhodey blinked. “I’ll bring extinguishers.”
The thing about children, Pepper had learned, is that they operate entirely on vibes, sugar, and trauma. And these four had plenty of all three. Jazz was terrifyingly competent, and within a week had formed an inter-Avengers child committee, wrote a new AI ethics guideline, and had Bruce Banner signing waivers just to talk to her.
Dan blew up a parking meter because it “looked at him wrong.”
Danny asked Tony if they could build an ecto-bazooka together and promised not to use it on Steve “unless Steve said ghosts weren’t real again.”
Dani tried to use her powers to possess a Roomba and ride it into battle.
Pepper walked in on all four of them forming a pact to “annihilate GIW headquarters” with something called Operation Ghost Buster Buster.
Tony approved instantly.
Pepper did not.
“Pepper,” Tony said. “We have kids now.”
“We have war orphans now.”
“They’re adorable!”
“They’re armed.”
“They’re basically Avengers Junior.”
Dani crashed through the ceiling riding a ghost dragon she “found in the laundry room.”
“I changed my mind,” Pepper muttered. “They’re perfect.”
Pepper flew to Amity Park a week later, dressed in corporate armor and rage. She walked into the Fenton household with Natasha, Bucky, and a glowing legal team of literal demons (Tony’s idea) and found Maddie and Jack cheerfully explaining how ecto-dissection worked on “halflings.”
When Maddie smiled and said, “It’s science, dear,” Pepper threw her coffee in Maddie’s face.
Tony had to hold her back while Bucky dismantled the Fenton portal and Natasha found enough surveillance footage to convict them of several counts of attempted child murder.
Jazz watched the entire thing from the jet via livestream, calmly taking notes.
“Pepper’s my favorite aunt,” she said.
Dan nodded. “She has potential.”
Danny was asleep on Tony’s shoulder, clutching a ghost plushie.
Dani was drawing herself riding a unicorn with a flame thrower.
The Avengers voted unanimously to make the kids honorary members. Jazz requested clearance access to S.H.I.E.L.D.’s trauma archives and got it. Dan received therapy. Danny built a ghost-safe treehouse. Dani declared herself queen of the Stark kitchen and banned kale.
Pepper watched them play in the yard one day and finally exhaled.
“I don’t know what the hell I’m doing,” she whispered.
Tony grinned. “You’re doing fine.”
Jazz ran by wielding a dagger made of solidified ghost energy.
Danny chased her screaming something about shared custody of the Lunchables.
Dan floated overhead like a sullen storm cloud.
Dani cackled, flying past them on her Roomba dragon.
“I need wine,” Pepper muttered.
Tony kissed her cheek. “I’ll buy you a vineyard.”
#danny fenton#danny phantom#dp x marvel#danny phantom fanfiction#marvel#marvel mcu#mcu#mcu fandom#crossover#danny phantom fandom#mcu fanfiction#marvel fanfic#pepper potts#tony stark#iron man#iron dad#jazz fenton#jasmine fenton#dani fenton#dani phantom#dan fenton#dan phantom#virginia potts#de aged danny#de aged ellie#de aged dani#de aged dan#de aged jazz
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What's fun about the succession crises in ASOIAF is that grrm really tries to present a murky narrative of who is in the right for pressing their claim, which makes it fun knowing that most sides have at least some bit of evidence to support them, regardless of how we feel about the characters. Stannis, despite being viewing Rhaenyra as a traitor, names his only daughter heir, though for the same reasons the Greens saw Aegon as legitimate. Sons before daughters, daughters before uncles, bastards cannot inherit. Ned Stark, despite being loyal to a fault with Robert, went against his deathbed wish to see his "son" Joffrey inherit, and instead falls back on law and tradition, throwing his support behind Stannis. Renly decides that if Robert can win the throne through conquest, then why can't he? He'll worry about legitimizing his reign after he takes the throne. When Robert's Rebellion ended, maesters spoke about the connection between Houses Targaryen and Baratheon, Robert's Targ blood (I believe from his grandmother), though none of it really mattered in the end, with every Targ save 3 dead and far far away from the throne. Cersei is committing treason by placing bastards on the throne, though even for her it could be argued it was Ned's fault the Joff v Stannis v Renly conflict broke out to begin with when he revealed Joffrey's true parentage. Placing bastards above trueborn heirs breaks the strenuous social contract of sorts that maintains some modicum of peace amongst members of the ruling class. But then Joffrey goes and cuts Ned's head off--> definitely a poor move, resulting in Robb's rise as an independent King, echoing the start of Robert's Rebellion. And in Dorne, Arianne admonishes Criston Cole for usurping Rhaenyra in favor of her younger brother, though this only holds up legally based on Dornish law, when Dorne wasn't even a part of the 7K. Though Arianne views Rhaenyra's claim as stronger, she herself almost become a Criston Cole 'Queenmaker' figure, looking to crown King Tommen's elder sister *cough* pitting brother against sister *cough* Myrcella, in the hopes of provoking a war of succession amongst the Lannisters. And now with Aegon VI and Dany, both will have to claim Westeros through conquest, though both still fall back on the idea of being Rhaegar's rightful heirs, and the Baratheon dynasty as illegitimate usurpers. How the rest of Westeros will view their claims remains to be seen...
The point is, succession in ASOIAF is meant to be muddled and confusing and not clear cut. It's what makes the story juicy and HOTD just completely failed to deliver on those dynamics. Alicent seems to have crowned Aegon by mistake, the rest of the Green council are mustache twirling villains, the Andal law argument is never brought up, and Rhaenyra is consistently framed as not only the rightful heir, but a divinely ordained one. A Queen who must rule because she has a "higher purpose" in doing so than simple desire for power. Yawn.
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The Cold Stars
Request: Yes or No
Summary: Daenerys encounters a lonesome stranger in Meereen who shares a bitter history with Ser Barriston
Pronouns: He/Him/His
TW/CW: Suicide mention
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"I cannot hide behind walls forever, Ser Barriston," Dany spoke gently, dragging her eyes over the small marketplace in the city. She knew the dangers of being out in public but she had trust in Ser Barriston and Grey Worm, her loyal subordinates. They'd never allow harm to come to her, she knew that very well. Besides, she needed to show the people of Meereen that she cared and valued them. Trust had to be earned, not given freely. So, despite the worries expressed to her by Ser Barriston and Daario, she marched forth into the marketplace, eager to see what her people were selling.
"I know, Your Grace," Ser Barriston sighed quietly, his eyes just as diligent and alert as Grey Worm's, bouncing around from cart to face in search of anyone with less-than-innocent motives. Most of the people watched them silently, the caution on their faces making Dany frown. She needed their loyalty, not their fear. She couldn't comprehend it well. She freed them from their masters, breaking the chains that made them slaves and they'd seemingly loved her for it. But the hesitation and unhappiness on some of their faces made her heart twist.
"Do you think King's Landing will receive me like this?" Dany asked the older, more experienced man as they rounded a corner, slipping out of the market into an alleyway, her head angled over her shoulder to peer back at the two. Ser Barriston's lips parted to respond but his eyes flickered away and Dany noticed Grey Worm reaching for his sword. Her head snapped forward, preparing herself for the worst only to notice the young man leaning against the wall with an apple in hand, his eyes-
His eyes...
Cold and displeased and undeniably violet. Her mind flickered back to Viserys, to the mentions of her parents and Rhaegar, to all the portraits she'd seen of her ancestors and all the stories told about them. She felt as if the air had been knocked out of her, and she suddenly yearned for her family, for the mother that died moments after having her, and the father that earned the title of Mad King. For Rhaegar and even cruel Viserys. But the man before them lacked the notable silver hair and appeared more... Dornish.
"(Y/N) Dayne," Ser Barriston gaped, eyes large and pale skin as if he'd seen a ghost. "You... are a long ways from home, child."
"As are you, Selmy." His bitter voice seemed to jolt Ser Barriston, his mouth clamping shut and bushy brows knitting together. (Y/N) raised the apple to his lips and dug his teeth into the crunchy fruit, a trickle of juice dripping down his chin. He chewed slowly as he studied each of them, his hardened gaze only momentarily growing indifferent when he turned his attention to the perplexed Grey Worm. "You are far from King's Landing, Ser. As are you, Targaryen."
"You are in the presence of Queen Daenerys Stormborn, child, you will refer to her as such. Your brother fought fiercely for the Targaryens during the rebellion."
"And he died." (Y/N) licked his lips, the apple beginning to crack and drip with juices under his grasp. The bitterness, near hatred in his eyes sent a chill down Dany's spine, yet she found herself unable to tear her own eyes away from his face. "You claim to have loved and respected Arthur and Ashara but where were you when they died? Where were you when Stark slaughtered my brother and my sister threw herself into the sea?"
"I would've given my life for either of them, you know that." Ser Barriston responded sharply, almost bristling at the silent accusation.
"You would've given your life for the Prince." Her trance broke immediately at the mention of her brother, of the man Ser Barriston always recalled fondly. Her lips pulled back into a deep frown and (Y/N) turned his attention onto her. "You should've been willing to give your life for Elia and her children. That Targaryen-" The sneer when he spoke said plenty of his opinions on her family. "-abandoned them to die like a coward."
"Mind your tongue!"
"My siblings are dead because of him!" (Y/N) snapped back at the knight, the apple finally breaking under his hold, different parts flying around while some of it turned to mush in his palm. Dany flinched and stepped back, one piece sliding right up to her feet and almost disappearing beneath the skirt of her dress. (Y/N) shook his hand and scoffed, pushing himself off the wall and barely sparing Grey Worm a glance when he stepped in front of Dany defensively. Ser Barriston's shoulders sagged, the fury dying immediately. "If he'd done his duty as a husband, Allryia, Aran, and I wouldn't be mourning them, Ser."
Dany raised her hand and placed it over Grey Worm's shoulder, meeting his questioning gaze with a reassuring nod. He stepped aside, allowing Dany to step forward, her shoe kicking aside the apple piece before she lifted her head to look at him once more. "Why have you come here, Lord (Y/N)? If not to ally yourself with me, why?"
"To see if the rumors were true. They say you have dragons and you'll use them to take back the Iron Throne. Ashara told me stories of dragons when I was a child. Elia, too. Dorne fought back against them during your ancestor's conquest."
"I have no qualms with Dorne," Daenerys told him softly. "And I am sorry for your losses. I am not my father nor my brothers. I wish to do things differently. The Lannisters, a common enemy between us, rule Kings Landing, do they not? We can ensure they will not bring harm to anyone else, not under my rule. House Dayne of Starfall is a noble house in Dorne with... close ties to the Martells of Sunspear. As I know it, the Martells despise Lannisters as well."
"Why would we fight for you? Justice is a mere action when you'd be getting the Iron Throne. Dorne has been at peace for many years."
"Perhaps..." Dany paused and glanced toward Ser Barriston. The older man met her gaze with an arched brow and a curious, almost concerned glint in his eye. She pursed her lips. She needed stronger allies, she needed angry allies... and even queens require heirs. "Perhaps House Dayne would be more pleased if one of their own became King Consort of Westeros."
(Y/N)'s eyes only narrowed in response. The crown would be tempting to any man, especially one of noble birth, but he only appeared annoyed by the offer. "I'm afraid my brother, Lord Aran Dayne, is content with his wife, and Edric is far too young to marry. I've had the freedom of being the youngest all my life. Why would I give it up to become a king when I can do whatever I please?"
"Kings do whatever they please, do they not?"
"Kings like Robert Baratheon and Aerys Targaryen, sure. Your brother did whatever he pleased as prince and plunged the kingdom into war. Rulers do what the people want, what they need. You haven't exactly been keeping your people happy, Daenerys. Dorne will only ally themselves if we know we'll win. You may have your army but Tywin Lannister and his dog have been commanding far longer than you and I have been alive. Prince Doran will never allow a child parading themselves as ruler of a city anywhere near Dorne's army. You'll have better luck asking for Prince Oberyn's hand in marriage."
"It almost sounds as if you believe you can do a better job than me... if so, join my council. You'll have your freedom and when the time comes, you'll have your justice. Perhaps then, you'll feel more inclined to accept my proposal. I know Dorne is known for its... queer customs. You view bastards as equal, women are seen as fine rulers, and having multiple lovers is common. Many have their opinions of Dorne but... I'd be rather happy with a Dornishman. I will grant you the freedom of doing as you please, if you become my consort, as long as we have a-" Her voice nearly broke, forcing her to pause again and clear her throat. "A healthy heir. What do you say now, Dayne?"
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ELIA OF DORNE and ANDROMACHE OF TROY
I have long wanted to write this meta of sorts, because if there is one mythological woman Elia Nymeros Martell has always reminded me of, it's Princess Andromache of Troy (or Andromache of Cilician Thebe).
In Greek mythology, Andromache was the wife of Trojan Prince Hector, daughter of King Eetion, and sister to Podes. She was born and raised in the city of Cilician Thebe, over which her father ruled.
Following the Trojan War, after Achilles has killed Hector and Troy is being captured and sacked by the Greeks, her son by Hector, named Astyanax (born Scamandrius) was murdered by being thrown off the city walls. His killer, Neoptolemus, son of the mythical warrior Achilles, then took Andromache as his concubine. By him, she was the mother of Molossus, Pielus, Pergamus and Amphialus.
The world of ancient Greek Mythology mostly does not sees rape of women conquered in war as rape at all, and yet, King Priam of Troy, father in law of Andromache, himself talks of the mass rape that will happen should Troy fall.
In Iliad, Andromache is portrayed as the perfect wife, weaving a cloak for her husband in the innermost chambers of the house and preparing a bath in anticipation of his return from battle. Just as Princess Elia is said to be "a good woman, kind and clever, with a gentle heart and a sweet wit", enough so that even her melancholic prince, who even by accounts of those who admired him most, did not have it in himself to be happy, grew "very fond of her".
Just like Andromache represents the injustice done to the women of Troy, to women of war torn lands in general, Elia represents the injustice done to women in King's Landing during the sack of the city.
Andromache and Elia are both widows of Crown Princes when their cities are sacked, but that doesn't save them from gruesome fates. If anything, being married to the dead heir to the throne dooms them too. One to a lifetime of misery, the other to an unbelievably horrific death.
We first learn about Elia through Daenerys, as she imagines the fall of the Targaryen dynasty:
"Yet sometimes Dany would picture the way it had been, so often had her brother told her the stories. The sack of King’s Landing by the ones Viserys called the Usurper’s dogs, the lords Lannister and Stark. Princess Elia of Dorne pleading for mercy as Rhaegar’s heir was ripped from her breast and murdered before her eyes. The polished skulls of the last dragons staring down sightlessly from the walls of the throne room while the Kingslayer opened Father’s throat with a golden sword."
Daenerys' description of the sack, and what happened to Elia and the rest of the Targaryen royals during it, is very similar to what befell Andromache. Her son was ripped from her arms, and murdered before her eyes, while her father-in-law was murdered by the invading forces. Elia and Andromache's role as mother, a fundamental element of their position in marriage, is emphasized within the text of their respective tales.
Following the murders of their sons (and daughter also, in Elia's case) both women are subjected to aggravated rape. Andromache is made a sex slave, and Elia is raped to death.
Both women had their family entirely stripped from them by the violence of war, making them fulfill the fate of conquered women in ancient warfare.
Both are wives of admired, beloved crown princes seen as the hope and future of their dynasty. And later, widows.
Both loose everything due to their husbands dying in war at the hands of a great warrior. Robert of House Baratheon, in case of Elia. And Achilles, in case of Andromache.
The so-called (or so-perceived) "good guys" of the stories victimize Elia and Andromache, or outright benefit from their victimization.
In some versions, it is Odysseus who kills Andromache's infant son, and then takes her mother-in-law, Hecuba, as his war prize.
Robert Baratheon had a just cause to rise against the man literally named "the mad king", but he defiles the justness of his own cause by walking to his throne of swords over the brutalized dead bodies of Elia and her children (Princess Rhaenys, not even three years old, stabbed half a hundred times, infant Aegon bashed into a bloody pulp against the wall, Elia raped with her son's blood and brain on her rapist's hands, then cut in half by him), calling them "dragonspawn" with disgust. Not only refusing her family justice, but actually awarding the man who orchestrated the monstrous deeds with a crown for his daughter.
Then there is their treatment by other women:
Hermione, daughter of Menelaus, king of Sparta, and his wife, Helen of Troy, wife of Andromache's captor and rapist Neoptolemus, blamed Andromache for her inability to become pregnant, claiming that she was casting spells on her to keep her barren. To the point that she asked her father to kill Andromache and her son while Neoptolemus was away at Delphi.
The same way, in text, Cersei Lannister blames Elia for her unhappiness as wife of Robert. Basically declaring that if Rhaegar had only married her, not Elia, everything and everyone would be well and happy. That it must have been madness that drove King Aerys to marry his son to the Dornish Princess.
Outside of text, we have the fandom's treatment of, and attitude towards, Elia. People who prefer Rhaegar Targaryen with Lyanna Stark, treat Elia as if she was the interloper in the marriage, and not his lawfully wedded legal wife, in eyes of both the Old Gods and the new. I have seen people outright say "fuck Elia and her children". It is honestly... Bizarre.
Andromache was famous for her fidelity and virtue. And it is safe to say Elia was both of those things too. Since even her biggest detractors, Jon Connington and Cersei Lannister, two people who wanted her husband for themselves, could not find any fault in Elia in that regard. Jon could only complain that Elia was sickly and unworthy of Rhaegar, despite the fact that she gave him two children in two years, and Cersei could only complain about Elia's breast size.
And yet, for all their amazing qualities, both women still suffered unquestionably and immensely, all for someone else's "love story".
Paris made off with Helen, and Andromache payed the price with all that she held dear.
Rhaegar loved his Lady Lyanna and thousands died for it. Including his innocent wife and children.
Andromache.
Elia.
Daughter
Princess
Sister
Wife
Mother
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Well, it was finally happening. The air was almost like the gymnasiam floor when the school ship had finally begun to dance.
Bucky imagined Elecktra and Yelena were about to have a field day.
He stood with Steve and Sam, trying not to fiddle with the place on his left finger where the ring would slip onto. He had asked Stark if he could make something to keep the ring in place, so a small divot was made.
“Relax,” Sam leaned closer to Bucky. “It’s not like you don’t know what’s going to happen.”
“I can’t wait, thats all.”
He was going to be honest with himself, this was the greatest day of his life. His entire family was there, at least he knew as family.
His sister, his Ma, his best friend since 1924, even the man he thought he would hate for the rest of his life. Heck, Sam was great.
Practically all the Avengers were there.
Oh, yeah. It was going to be a party to remember.
Laurya was kind enough to keep any birds away from the guests and decorations, not that it was extravagant, it was simple, no more than needed.
Who would have thought Poseidon would show up??? What a day…
He shifted his weight again, shoving his hands in his pockets.
“I swear, I’m gonna sit on you if you keep that up.” Steve teased.
“You just might need to.” Bucky looked around, catching his mother’s eye. She was beaming to say the least. He smiled back, choosing to pretend he didn’t see her tears. He was just as excited.
He couldn’t imagine what Natasha looked like right now…
Meanwhile, in the white tent where the reception would be held, Natasha waited patiently while Yelena finished off her make-up. Her sister would never let her live it down if she went to the alter with messy mascara.
“I hope you don’t mind Bucky attached to me now,” She half-smiled.
“He’s been attached to you,” Yelena smarted as she leaned back and inspected her work. “You just now noticed this?”
Natasha simply rolled her eyes. “I just hope I don’t start crying.”
“Don’t be a sap.”
“Hey,” The red head touched Yelena’s arm. Don’t think I’m going anywhere just because I’m getting hitched. Okay?”
“The thought never crossed my mind.”
The sisters shared a smirk and a hug before Natasha stood up and checked herself in the mirror.
“Well? How do I look?” She asked Dani who was helping in the tent.
“Absolutely stunning.” Dani nodded. She and Yelena broke the traditional style and wore suits to the wedding.
Everything was practically humming with anticipation.
The sun was just beginning to set as the ceremony began, the soft tunes of Blue Flame, a forties song, crooned from the speakers to the sides of the arbor where Cillian, Bucky and Steve stood, the middle having to clasp his hands behind his back to keep from fidgeting. Funny, he was more scared than he had ever been, even from missions for HYDRA.
He looked down as he thought back to where he was when he met Natalia. She had pulled him from a horrible place, and he had the audacity to ask her to stay with him.
And hell, she said yes.
He felt Steve give him a nudge from his left, almost a silent signal that his best friend had his back.
Bucky held his breath as he saw the bridesmaids and groomsmen come down the isle. It was only three pairs; they didn’t want a big wedding.
Then he knew he was going to loose it.
Natasha came down the isle, Sam’s arm linked with hers as she locked eyes with him.
Elecktra was getting every detail down.
Peter was quietly getting the best shots, his camera making a small clicking noise when he took a photograph.
Bucky swore his heart stopped when Natasha winked at him.
“Friends and Avengers.” Cillian began, sounding rather hyped as well. This was a big day for his friend. “Today we mark the event with our friends, James and Natasha. And it appears to be a major event for both of them.”
“Its not everyday you do this.” Natasha chimed, shooting a playful glance at the immortal.
“That is true.” Cillian grinned. “Now, who gives this bride away in marriage?”
“That would be me, even though I have no relation to her,” Sam spoke up, a bright smile on his face. “And no sympathy to Bucky, he asked for this.”
There was an amused rumble of laughter around the audience as Sam stepped back and took his seat next to Winnifred Barnes.
“Thanks, Sam” Bucky quietly said, shooting a smile to his friend.
Cillian continued, a smile plastered on his face. “I have had the honor of James as a friend, and enemy at one time. But even through the years, he’s been a man I’m proud to have as a friend.”
Natasha grinned at Bucky as he ducked his head. It was so…strange to hear a man you once hunted for a mission stating that you were a great friend. But that was the past. He needed to let go.
He was here and he was about to get married.
“A union between a pair such as this, it’s something that only happens once in a lifetime. So, Buck, you made a hell of a choice.”
Bucky chuckled and looked at Natasha who was still smiling at him.
“Another surprise, I was told that they had wrote their own vows. So, Natasha, will you honor us with your vows?”
The redhead nodded and looked at Bucky. “From those darker days when we knew nothing of happiness, I knew you were someone I should keep close to. Whether it was for protection, warmth or just companionship, you were always there for me. You’re my friend, a challenge to meet in training, my mentor, my personal space heater—“ She paused and snickered, also receiving a chuckle from the audience and Bucky.
“But you are also my life, and I want nothing more than to spend the rest of whatever years we have left with you. I vow to be your companion, your lifeline, the one to stay up with you when the terror gets the best of us. I promise to be faithful, accepting of your quirks; whatever those may be. I also vow to be yours in wherever we’re going in life. I give you my heart, my love and soul. I promise to love and to cherish our love til death do us part.”
“Dang, how I am supposed to follow up that—“ Bucky smirked, taking Natasha’s hand in his. “Natalia, I know how I have hurt others in the past. I’ve done things I wouldn’t dare to share with anyone. But…then you showed up. You showed me something I hadn’t felt in years. I had no idea something so simple as compassion could change someone like me. I didn’t realize it at first, but from when I knew you meant no harm, my heart was yours. I was taken. I’m still taken aback at how you put up with me.” He breathed a laugh. “Nat, you’re the most beautiful person I know. Inside and out, you shine your love to others in a way I don’t deserve. And I vow never to smother that light, never to let you walk this life alone. I promise to love, to cherish, to share and to hold you for the rest of our lives. You’re not only my friend and partner in crime, you’re my girl, and I’ll never let you go.”
Cillian nodded in approval and smiled. “And now the rings, please.”
Steve deposited the two rings in Cillian’s outstretched hand, giving Bucky and bump on the shoulder with a grin.
“A circle has no end.” Cillian began again. “Its infinite, it also shows both of your unconditional love and respect for one another. James, take the ring and repeat after me.”
Bucky took the silver and red ring in his metal hand and gently held Natasha’s left hand.
“Natasha, I give you this ring as a symbol of my love and fidelity. I promise to love you today, tomorrow and all the days after.”
Bucky smiled and met Natasha’s gaze. “Natasha, I give you this ring as a symbol of my love and fidelity. I promise to love you today, tomorrow and all the days after.”
“And now you, Nat.”
“James Bucky Barnes, I give you this ring as a symbol of my love and fidelity. I promise to love you today, tomorrow and all the days after. And don’t you forget it, either.”
“No, ma’am.” Bucky shook his head.
“Then by the power invested in me, I now pronounce you man and wife.” Cillian said quickly, noticing Natasha hopping slightly. “James, you may now kiss the bride.”
“Yeehaw!” Bucky whooped before pulling Natasha in and kissing her slowly.
“Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Mr. and Mrs. Barnes!” Steve cheered.
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It’s come to my attention my links don’t work occasionally. If you click on one of the tags at the bottom of my works eg daemon smut or robb stark imagines, it should show you all of my relevant posts.
I’m sorry about the inconvenience, I’ll get my links working well as soon as I can.
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"... best you have a new face as well.” He cupped her chin, turned her head this way and that, nodded. “A pretty one this time, I think. As pretty as your own." - Arya, ADwD
A recap and a lesson for fandom newbies -
We have this CANON ACCURATE fanart of Arya Stark from the incredibly talented Tonyloom with the long face, brown hair and grey eyes dressed for feast time at Winterfell as the daughter of the Warden of the North.
A Sansa fan gets triggered by this Arya fanart because it's different from ones that Sansa stans usually like for their 'Stark sisters' fanart - where Arya is drawn dark skinned to highlight Sansa's fair complexion because Sansa is beautiful and Arya is ugly, where Arya is missing teeth, always a sword in hand, messy hair being braided by Sansa to conform to what Sansa likes etc. - and goes on an insane rant about how Arya fans don't want Arya to be ugly because of equating goodness to beauty....
So Arya fans respond to this attack on the fan artist and point to the book text where several characters call Arya pretty and beautiful and ask why they should consider the character ugly when she is not in the text of the books.
A BNF then jumps into the discourse and reblogs the 'Arya is ugly and Arya fans have internalized misogyny' post and pretends that Arya fans are the ones starting this whole discourse on Arya's looks.

BNF tags it as 'This is weird discourse, who cares if Arya is pretty'. Who cares if Arya is pretty? The weird, racist Sansa stan that you reblogged the post from, who got triggered by some Arya fan art and had to go on an entire rant, that's who. Who cares? Well you cared enough to reblog an 'Arya is ugly' post and point fingers at Arya fans, that's who.
And now the BNFs reblog spreads like wildfire amongst the casual fans and we have many who actually think that canon Arya is ugly and Arya fans just have internalized misogyny. This, children, is how the many wrong but popular fanon gets created.
Remember, this BNF had nothing to say about racist Arya fanart. Nothing to say about sexist posts where Arya is masculinized and her femininty stripped from her. Nothing to say about the many posts from Sansa stans/Jonsa shippers about how Jon is repulsed by Arya's ugliness and loves Sansa because she is so beautiful.
But they had to step in and make sure everyone knew that Arya is ugly and it's Arya fans who are the problem.
This is actually nothing new. The reason there is so much wrong misinformation about Arya and Daenerys, and the way this fandom has opinions about these two female characters, is because it's been crafted over decades of fandom BNF's spreading posts and meta like this through BNF blogs like Asoiafuniversity. Explained so well in this post here:
Villainizing Arya fans as 'bad fans' has long been a thing in fandom. Asoiafuniversity, which was the goto place for all things asoiaf in those days, had actual posts equating Arya fans to Walter White fans from Breaking bad who hated on his wife Skylar.
Keep in mind, this is an actual quote from a post on the most popular asoiaf blog when the fandom was very active:
The interesting thing about Arya is that unlike most of the male Bad Fan icons, she doesn’t have a wife to embody her Bad Fans’ frustrations and serve as an outlet for their ire – no Betty Draper, no Skyler White, no Carmela Soprano. Instead, she has a sister, Sansa, who winds up serving the same function. Much of Bad Fandom is a gendered phenomenon, pulling for he-man figures against shrewish wives who just don’t understand them. It’s fascinating to see how the phenomenon can alter itself to accommodate a female-female pairing while still targeting characteristics we typically gender female. The Bad Fan is nothing if not durable.
So much toxic sexism masquerading as feminism, where they equate Arya fans to the chuds who hate female characters and whose unfair target is Sansa because she is 'female'. And Arya is a 'he-man' figure....The mind boggles.
But this was the typical vile sexist garbage Bnfs were spewing about both Arya and Daenerys in the days when fandom was most active and this is where a majority of the sexist opinions about Arya and Dany comes from.
This is why these canonically wrong aspects of these characters are so widespread and entrenched in fandom thought that it doesn't matter if we use actual book quotes to show that it's the exact opposite.
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I’ll never forget how insecure Stansa’s got when the Key Five was revealed, complained about it and then to cope they created the ‘Core Six’ and actually ties into their continuous stream of passing of fanon as canon and at the same time being the usual delusional bunch they’ve always been
What's really funny is that they still confidently claim that the Key Five doesn't mean anything, solely because she isn't a part of it. The Core Six is a completely fanon invention but people talk about it like it's fact. They want her to be more important than she is so badly that they're straight up ignoring the author. And yes, until otherwise stated by George, the Key Five are still a thing. Tbh I'm not sure if there was ever a time that they engaged with the source material though? A lot of them came from the show (*cough*fanfiction) so that's where a majority of their takes are coming from. That's why we get people saying things like "Sansa charmed George off the page" or "Sansa took Arya's place as George's favorite Stark sister". They just desperately want the show to match up with the books. What's annoying is that her not being a part of the Key Five doesn't mean she isn't important, but people take it as hate towards her. It's sad that the only version of her they like is her fanon one.
#ask#anon#key five#anti sansa stans#the way people think they can just decide who the main characters are is insane#if the author himself is telling you /here are my main characters/ then maybe idk he considers those his main characters#also the fact that they're his favorite and he's constantly talking about how important they are but who cares about that?#we all know fanon is more important 🤪#/it's unfair/ to say she isn't a key five even though they belittle Arya and Dany like they get paid for it#rip to people who think Sansa replaced Arya as grrms favorite stark sister cause he loves that little girl 😭#he constantly says it has her in every book has a novella's worth of chapters for her in braavos has her connected to multiple plotlines...#she's the princess of the key five for a reason
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Imo saying Jon won't care that he's half Targ because he has "nothing to do with that house" is a not only very simplistic way of viewing his arc but also just a flat out wrong and bad take. Like my brothers and sisters in R'hllor, he has everything to do with that house even though he may not bear the name! Jon is constantly equated with Targs in the series. In fact, he's constantly equated with the best that house has to offer. He's got Jaehaerys and Alysanne in him, he's directly paralleled with Maester Aemon and Aegon V, he transforms into Daeron the Good at the Wall, and he's basically best boy Jacaerys resurrected some 200 years later. Let's also not forget that he's best girl Dany's 1:1 narrative mirror. Jon's personality is what you get when you combine Daemon the Rogue Prince, a little bit of Maekar I, Egg, a teaspoon of Rhaegar, a few sprinkles of Baelor Breakspear, and a whole cup of Jaehaerys. He has the heroism of Aemon the Dragonknight, the innate leadership of Aegon the Conqueror, the youthful foolhardy of Daeron the Young Dragon, and the aggressive pettiness of Prince Daemon. He's got Daemon Blackfyre's nobility and Brynden Rivers' terrifying pragmatism. His rebirth is literally equated to the waking of a dragon ("two kings to wake the dragon", "promised prince born amidst salt and smoke"). He has both the good and the bad that comes with House Targaryen. He also has the good and bad of House Stark, but no one ever thinks less of him for that... Y'all let Targ hate and Rhaegar hate (both of which are just extensions of Dany hate lbr) cloud your judgement and ignore what's right in front of you. Jon is a Targ. The same way he is a Stark. He's not either or, he's both. The lesson at the end of the day isn't for him to choose one or the other. The lesson is to recognize that he so much of BOTH in him, and he can take these and become whatever he wants - bastard as he is.
#asoiaf#valyrianscrolls#jon snow#house targaryen#“jon will find out he's a targ and hate it because they are awful!111" 🙄#let me remind the audience that there are some terrible monsters in his stark bloodline as well#like he can be bran the builder and ned and lyanna and jon stark the first in their heroic spirit#AND brandon of the bloody blade and theon the hungry wolf in their bloodthirstiness#JON IS WOLFBLOODED#and that is not always a good thing!!#so saying that he can't like the targs because of a few shit people is also saying he can't like the starks as a whole either#because they have a couple of war criminals in their bloodline - you see how silly that is?
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🖤✨ 02: How to Not Ship People: A PSA from Serena Stark ✨🖤
Alright, Tumblr, we need to talk. Specifically about the very weird habit some of you have of shipping me with literally everyone I’ve ever shared air with—and I mean everyone—from Stephen to Wong to TONY to Peter to Dani to Laurya (like, seriously??).
And no, this isn't a "How to Ship Serena Stark" guide (because apparently, everyone on here thinks they’re qualified to play matchmaker)
Understand the Basics of Platonic Relationships
Not every interaction means romance, folks. Sometimes, people can just...I don’t know...exist in the same room without being soulmates.
For example:
Stephen Strange? My best friend and highly respected mentor. Not my boyfriend. Not my soulmate. Last time I checked, calling someone “Old Man Wizard” every five minutes isn’t exactly romantic. I can’t even get through a conversation without him lecturing me on the multiverse and responsibility. Romance level: zero. Also, he calls me “kid,” so that’s basically “I’m your dad now” territory.
Tony Stark? That’s my dad, y’all. MY DAD. Did we skip basic human decency 101? This isn’t Game of Thrones. Sit down.
Wong? Look, I respect the guy. Love him even (in a totally platonic way). But the man is way too busy dealing with magical disasters to worry about me. Plus, I’m not about to ruin his zen vibe. We’re too busy exchanging takis, not vows.
Peter Parker? Do you people hear yourselves when you type? Peter can’t even win a staring contest with me—how would he handle dating me? As I said already, he's my too-kind-to-be-a-real-kid brother.
Daniella Romanoff? Practically my sister. (Though she could definitely crush me in a fight, I’m not even gonna lie.) She’s got enough trauma to handle, she doesn’t need me adding fuel to the shipping fire.
Laurya? I can practically hear you all— “Oh, they’re so close! It’s so obvious! Sisterly love... or, y’know, whatever!” NO. She is literally my sister in arms, not in love. If she were reading this right now, she’d be laughing so hard, she’d probably throw a shoe at me. So let’s not, okay?
Bruce Banner? Bruce Banner and me? Are you seriously trying to make that work? Listen, I’m all for the science nerds’ club (believe me, I’m practically a founding member), he’s in the “dad” zone with Tony and Stephen. I don’t need a third one of those.
What next? Are you going to ship me with Jeff, the land shark?!
Now that I’ve screamed into the void, here’s your 101 on how NOT to ship people (especially me):
Step 1: Don't Assume Every Glance = Love Story
Just because I looked at someone for more than 2 seconds doesn’t mean I’m secretly planning our wedding. I could be judging them. I could be plotting their demise. Or I could just be zoning out because I’m thinking about pasta. You don’t know.
Step 2: Don’t assume everything is subtext.
Just because I exchange sarcastic banter with someone doesn’t mean I want to kiss them. Sometimes, I’m just being me. (Which, let’s be honest, is fabulous enough without adding romance into the mix.)
You don’t marry everyone you talk to. Shocking, right? Sometimes, people just have good friendships. Not every bond needs a kiss at the end. I know, mind-blowing.
Step 3: Stop Projecting Your Ships Onto Others
I get it, shipping is fun. But hold your horses. Ask yourself:
Is this ship actually plausible, or am I just bored?
Have I considered how weird this might be for the people involved?
Would Serena personally come for me for this? (Hint: Yes.)
If you can’t explain it without sounding like a total creep, then just… don’t. My life isn’t your rom-com script, and I’m not auditioning for a Netflix special.
Step 4: Respect Boundaries
If I say “No,” it’s a no. If I roast the ship in public, it’s definitely a no. Stop trying to make me and Tony a thing. That’s therapy-inducing territory, and I already have enough on my plate.
Me and Stephen = Two sarcastic nerds saving the multiverse.
Me and Peter = Sibling energy with a side of web-based competition.
Me and Tony = Snark battles + family dinners.
Me and Laurya = Sisterhood, no strings attached.
Me and Dani = Chaos and platonic love, no ships allowed.
Me and Wong = Team Sorcery and food buddies. (he has a lot of takis in the Sanctum, if you'd be more responsible about your ship, I'd give you some)
Me and Bruce = Science buddies and, he’s already got enough on his plate with, y’know, the Hulk and being an honorary member of the “dad” squad.
Step 5: Focus On YOUR Ships
If you’re feeling the itch to ship someone, look in the mirror. Find your own love story. Or ship Jeff the Land Shark with world domination; he’s working on it anyway.
Step 6: Put that energy to better use.
Instead of shipping me with everyone I’ve ever breathed near, how about you create fanfic where I absolutely obliterate HYDRA agents in a beautifully dramatic showdown?
In conclusion:
Stop it. Get some help. If you keep shipping me with random people, I’ll find you. And I’ll make you explain yourself to my face. Let’s stop pretending every time I make eye contact with someone, we’re about to enter a rom-com montage. Please, for the love of all things sarcastic and logical, stop.
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if they adapt Robert's Rebellion
I don't want to give anyone ideas but if they ever make Robert Rebellion's tv or movie version then Robert Baratheon is going to be portrayed as the worst man ever who raped woman here and there and probably assaulted Lyanna.
And that's why she ran away with the tragic melancholic godly prince who was so noble and good but trapped in a marriage with either an unstable chronically ill brown woman or a scheming ambitious brown woman who doesn't love him at all and maybe cheats on him.
Tragic King Aerys who loves his family and wants to burn the whole city because he has a good cause!! Sacrifices will wake dragons! Dragons eggs could have hatched before Dany! Aerys' was a genius. And yes Rhaella supported him and Rhaegar with everything.
It was House Targaryen against the world.
Also, Tywin Lannister was best buddy of Aerys. He sent the Mountain and Amory Lorch to protect the royal family! Those noble knights who accidentally killed the little girl maybe because he couldn't identify whether the Princess was Targaryen or not? Maybe she wasn't.
The Mountain too had similar accidents because Aegon isn't the ptwp or he doesn't exist at all. Problem solved! Rhaegar had no son! This is true! Jon is his only son!!
And let's not forget how hard it was for the Mountain and other guy to climb the building, their struggle to get in Maegor's Holdfast!! They will show us that, than the Princess who is trapped helplessly in a tower with a drawbridge, drawn up and no way to escape with her children.
But no problem that those children died, they were nothing special no one mourns them or their mother. They deserved to be killed and forgotten. House Martell supports Targaryens! They will rise for Jon if they knew! True love of the prince Rhaegar already gave him the only son. Aegon 6th!!
And see a noble honourable Stark lord will raise because 'song ice and fire!' 'prophecy baby' and not because he is the last piece of his sister and that's what any uncle will do.
And… Jon Arryn? Who is Jon Arryn? Why does he want to rebel? He has no reason! (His heir was also murdered idk why people forget that!)
And yes the war was started by Littlefinger if you didn't know before he hyped up Brandon to march to KL. 😄
#anti targaryen#asoiaf#robert's rebellion#this because what disaster they made of dance of the dragons#anti hotd#anti house targaryen#elia martell#anti rhaegar targaryen#anti rhaelya#robert baratheon#do hbo do this because of targ stans?#oh god I hope robert's rebellion is never adapted like this but I am not even sure now#got already showed us though the 'love story of rhaelya' and 'aegon vi = jon'#that is 😵
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Yeah, Jon's plain looks and overall countenance (bless him, I do love it) is why they're so desperate that Jon comes back a completely changed, violent, possessive man with white hair and red eyes, because it's the only way Dany will be interested in him. This came up in the new Jon video by Alt Shift X btw. I find it so incredibly silly.
I do think Jon will be changed in personality, and that's where Sansa figures in as significant-- it would be ironic if the sister he was the least close to is what makes him human again!-- but... losing Lyanna in his face? Isn't there the perfect set-up for him realising that his mother has been staring back at him in the mirror this whole time?
They really think his Stark side is just a sort of parking space where GRRM put him until he could (finally) upgrade to Targaryen, don't they?
The idea that Lyanna, who parallels Jon not just in her suffering (sexually coerced by a captor, freed by a wolf and bleeding out, dying at 16) but also in her heroics (facing off against three opponents to defend a weaker person, going 'undercover') is the less important parent compared to the prophecy-obsessed deadbeat? Ridiculous.
GRRM isn't playing "spot the hint!" with their shared looks in order to take them away before they were ever relevant. He didn't create Lyanna in order to make her a passively enthusiastic vessel for Rhaegar's prophecy boy. Lyanna is the point.
Jon is who he is because of Lyanna. The girl who begged for the life of a child she had no choice in having. He looks like her, acts like her, lives because she was a wolf and her brother loved her and the pack survives. His Targaryen side is not a fulfillment of purpose. I still predict GRRM will not make Jon a magical key to anything, specifically to defy Rhaegar's egocentric logic. Jon is no destined hero. He's a human person muddling through and making hard choices with personal integrity. Negotiating. Planning. And counting the damn beets so people can eat.
His Targaryen father is a(nother) challenge to Jon's sense of identity, a dark and painful one, that can only be overcome through love - for Lyanna the person, for his pack and by his pack for him. (And a special treat enabled only by not being Ned's son...)
It's like you said, she (and in consequence his own self-worth) has been staring at him in the mirror all this time. No shame, but love in spite of it all.
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