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aquariusshadow · 1 month ago

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Stiles and Lydias friendship (the weakest of all pack dynamics) relies entirely on them having mutual friends or a problem. They are never casually talking about something that isn't a problem. Plus they suck at comforting each other. The only examples I can think of at the moment are "pretty when you cry" or kiss to cure a panic attack. Neither of those scenes show a bond between the characters. Just missed opportunities.

Also season two ruined any potential they had when he was yelling that she doesn't care what happens to her -he's describing Scott not Lydia- after she was begging for help all season. That scene was so unearned. They didn't have a bond where he can throw a fit about how her actions affect him. And she isn't reckless or self sacrificing. That scene could have worked with almost any other pairing. Give that to Melissa and Scott and it makes more sense. Sorry for this long complainy ask.

You don't need to apologize!! I completely agree 100000000% ahahaha

You summarized it perfectly in the first paragraph. Stiles and Lydia never have scenes that are unique to them and their "relationship" (by relationship I just mean friendship or bond)--something to show the viewer why they work and how much they care about each other that isn't contrived by the Big Plot or being shoved together because there's no one else there or when the writers realized these two went several episodes without being in the same room as each other.

The bonding with little moments is something a majority of the main TW ships did correctly. You see it with Scallison, Scira, Stalia, etc. They all have little scenes and moments of them bonding and spending genuine, quality time together that isn't solely based around the Big Plot Thing TM. The "pretty when you cry" scene had the potential to be good--but it got cut off before it had the chance to do anything. Stiles never had the chance to go back to Lydia, and that "conversation" (however slight it was) never had any follow-through nor reference later on. Therefore, it's easily forgettable and has no significance in growing this relationship as the character dynamic never changes. And I don't think I need to add on anymore about the panic attack kiss and how gross it is to romanticize something like that 🤡

I especially agree about season 2. You hit the nail on the head there. The worst thing about it is when you realize that all Lydia wanted to do was go visit Jackson, who was IN THE HOSPITAL, to give him a key. Nothing about that indicated she wanted to "run head first into danger." The look on her face as Stiles yelled at her was honestly heartbreaking, and I applauded her when she immediately left his room after that.

I will say there was one moment in season 4 that legitimately was pretty decent. I think it was the scene where Stiles told her that he would look around the building all night to prove to Lydia that she was right in her instincts. I rewatched it recently and found nothing objectively wrong with it. Now the catch was.....that was the first scene they had in four seasons where I could legitimately say it was a good scene with them, so do with that what you will lmao

Thank you for your elaborative insight!! It was nice to read and it gave me a chance to yap my own thoughts in more detail!

#anti stydia #hello anonymouse #thank you for letting me yap more about this hehehe

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moistvonlipwig · 1 year ago

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3, 12, 18, and 19 for teen wolf (no worries if you want to pass on any of them)?

3. screenshot or description of the worst take you’ve seen on tumblr

oh see now this question is impossible because teen wolf fandom is capable of producing bad takes that other fandoms can only dream of. "scott helping align a dog's broken leg in his capacity as an assistant vet tech is animal abuse." "stalia is problematic because malia is 45 in coyote years." "scott violated/raped derek" (re: a scene in which scott is forced under duress to make derek bite gerard, which derek only objected to because he did not know about scott's secret plan). "stiles is the only one who ever respected derek." "scott has been narrating the entire show to make himself look better." "deaton is shady and evil." "scott abused jackson" (a real thing someone sent to my inbox). even jeff davis got in on it with "kira's story didn't have anything left to explore." however despite stiff competition i do think we have to give this award to "scott is a werewolf colonizer" because there is something so special about accusing a mexican boy of colonizing the culture of white people who are living in california. and also because it is so so funny to say.

12. the unpopular character that you actually like and why more people should like them

hm. i don't know if i like any characters who are unpopular within the fandom circles i travel in. like certainly scott is unpopular with the fandom at large, we know this, but i don't travel in those circles so. idk. i guess i think victoria argent is interesting? imo after allison she's the most compelling argent. i think killing yourself rather than becoming a werewolf shows a kind of commitment to one's ideology that automatically makes a character interesting. i don't know what the popular opinion on victoria argent is but that's my take.

18. it’s absolutely criminal that the fandom has been sleeping on…

see again i could point to fandom at large for this but frankly fandom at large sleeps on anything that isn't sterek or steter so i could say anything and it would be true. so my actual answer is that i think more people should ship theo/mason. i get why sceo is popular but i don't know why thiam is so big when...thason? meo? (personally i am voting for meo as a ship name because it looks like meow. however i am willing to be overruled.)...is right there. one of my actual most unpopular opinions is idgaf about morey because i couldn't care less about corey. i don't even know that boy's last name. he's nothing to me. but theo/mason??? both of them experimented on by the dread doctors, one of them 'evil' and the other 'good' (too 'good' to be traumatized, if you ask jeff davis, which is why you should never ask jeff davis), one of them so compassionate and caring, the other callous and lacking empathy, on opposite sides of the fight, yet both bound by the same trauma, and both deep inside wanting to help? look i'm not a big m/m shipper so i'm not gonna write the fic but SOMEONE should write the fic. is what i'm saying.

19. you’re mad/ashamed/horrified you actually kind of like…

disclaimer i am not ashamed of liking anything because, to paraphrase the great cordelia chase, shame is not something to be proud of. however i am a little mad that stiles and derek genuinely have such a fun relationship. i do actually wish they had more scenes together and i would happily watch an entire episode that was just the two of them on a buddy cop roadtrip and if people wrote more platonic fic of them with their canon personalities being forced into Situations together then i Would read it. i don't ship them because it's not my cup of tea shipping-wise and i think fanon sterek is nothing like canon sterek and is deeply uninteresting but in the year 2024 i must confess that canon stiles & derek did make some points.

#please imagine canon stiles and derek being forced to fake date #and then at the end of it they're like wow i actually like and respect you even less than i did going in #hate wins <3 #the bite is a gift #spikeface

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staliaz · 2 years ago

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If you still want Stalia asks, here are two of the things i really love about them:

1) Stiles was his best self with Malia. He never lashed out at her the way he did with EVERYONE (friends and foes alike). He was his most soft, gentle, considerate, kind and caring when interacting with Malia 🥺

2) Stiles doesn't hide his darkness from Malia. He told her about his experience with the Nogitsune, that he felt powerful and fearless and liked it. That's just so special to me 💕

Thoughts?

this ask is so old i’m sorry anon, but thank you so much for sending it!

YES. i have noticed that too, it’s very obvious if you watch the show, stiles never held back calling out not even lydia for her craziness/annoying stuff she says but she never did that once with malia, she is truly his weak spot and is literally so gentle and sweet with her, purest baby.

i really like that part too, when malia was about to break off her chains and was BEGGING stiles to go and run stiles refused, because he truly believed she wouldn’t hurt him, he tried to help her have control over her powers, something she couldn’t do for so long while training with scott. stiles was already so confident in telling his thoughts to her because she’d promised she wouldn’t judge him back when they first met and he feared she might not like him if she knew any more of what he did while void state. btw i will never believe stiles enjoyed what the nogitsune did with his body (countless killing) like he said, the worst feeling was remember liking it because he felt powerful, fearless, emotions he used to be so insecure about in the past, he couldn’t do the things scott, a werewolf can, he had no supernatural powers, he was just human, having power like that made him feel confident and in control, that speech helped malia transform back to human, they both embrace each other in their arms in relief. i really like that scene because it parallels without malia’s “i don’t even remember what it was [the fight] about. but i remember what i said. i said ‘i wish you were all dead.’ ”. malia opened up to him when they had yet to make up, they were still not together again after stiles kept peter’s identity a secret from her because he was so afraid of losing her yet malia was still willing to tell him the entire story of how she blames herself for having ‘done’ & said that.

#stalia #stiles stilinski #malia tate #ask; staliaz

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kitkatwinchester · 2 years ago

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THIS SHOW I SWEAR TO GOD!!

THE PUZZLE PIECES!!!

THE RELATIONSHIPS!!!

THE LINES!!!!

THE RELATIONSHIPS!!!

THE MESSAGES!!!

THE RELATIONSHIPS!!!

I LOVE IT ALL!!!

I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT!!!

Okay okay, I let it finish out without reacting, so we have a LOT to unpack now, but let's go.

This is kind of gonna be in order of events, but the show jumped between perspectives a lot and I'm just gonna talk about each perspective all at once lol.

Okay, so at first, Lydia's random little soundproof room in the lake-house was freaking me the f*ck out, but it wound up working in our favor, so that's good (also as an aside, are she and her family having money problems?? Because she sounded so stressed about the stains (Mason never came back to help clean it up, btw...), and for a girl as extravagant as she is, I wouldn't have anticipated money problems, but I guess that's always the point, right? You never know what's going on behind closed doors.). That said, it does make me wonder if her mom is also a Banshee or something like it? Like, her powers had to come from somewhere, right? Because why would a lake-house, owned by her family, have a random soundproof room with a single record player in it? Sounds like a Banshee room to me...

All of that said, I am very glad that she managed to figure out the code (it's super interesting that Allison's name was the key...maybe because she's the only major pack member already dead?), but I am very not glad that there is a dead pool that has our entire pack (except for Stiles, of course lol) on the list, 'cause...that's not super comforting. Don't love that for us. That'll be fun to fight against. Our list of 117 million problems (to quote Stiles) gets longer and longer by the minute, doesn't it...

However, that was a nice little Lydia and Kira moment, with Kira immediately recognizing that Lydia was Banshee-ing, and her focus shifting from Scott to Lydia very quickly as a result.

Speaking of Kira...

THAT SCIRA SCENE OMG THAT WAS THE CUTEST THING I LOVE THEM SO MUCH I CANNOT!!! <3 <3

Scott and Kira's love is seriously just so wholesome and flirty and heartwarming and adorable and I love relationships like that so much.

The fact that Scott's immediate reaction to Kira mentioning slow dancing is to get up and have her slow dance with him (as an aside, what lunatic only has, like, NINE APPS on their phone Scott what is wrong with you?! XD), and by the BEAUTIFUL reflection on the lake, no less (that shot was GORGEOUS, dude).

The fact that they got all goofily flirty with Scott's beautifully comedic response to Kira's question ("He can slow dance with me another time." XD).

The fact that Scott told Kira he was indistractable, and she immediately made it her goal to get him as distracted as possible (their little smiles at each other the whole time I cannot <3 <3).

The fact that Scott mostly manages to contain himself, but she FINALLY gets him, JUST slightly, because of course she does. ("Nothing." "Then why are your eyes glowing?" *adorable little head shake and smile* “Cheater.")

And then, like, obviously the real distraction came when Liam broke out of the chains, which, as an aside, they did not handle very well at all, but I'll allow it, because they were SO cute, and just holding each other SO sweetly and just SO into each other and I just...

I LOVE SCIRA SO MUCH AHHHHH!!!! MY OTP FOR SCOTT FOREVER AND ALWAYS!! THEY'RE JUST SO PERFECT FOR EACH OTHER!! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

And then there's STALIA!!

DUDE!!! THAT SCENE!!! OMG!!! This show makes me love Stalia more and more BY THE MINUTE AHHHH!!! <3 <3 <3 <3

EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT SCENE I SWEAR!!

The fact that Stiles just has such utter confidence and trust in Malia, even as she's trying to come after him.

The fact that Malia is just drowning in pain over the fear of hurting another person that she deeply cares about.

The fact that Stiles refuses to let her fear and anger eat her up the way it is, staying calm and collected and determined to help her anchor herself and not let her be afraid of herself.

The fact that, even as Malia fights the chains, she's so sincerely and closely listening to Stiles, because she loves him, and she trusts him.

The fact that Stiles says he GETS it, because he DOES, because he understands the guilt that comes from hurting someone you care about. He understands what it's like to have been the cause of a loved one's death, and to hate the fact that, no matter how much you try to deny it, a part of you enjoyed that power and control, even in that moment.

The fact that Malia is locking eyes with him, even as her wolf instincts are desperately trying to take over, taking in every word he says.

The fact that Stiles says, with so much confidence and power, that "control is overrated" (because WHAT A F*CKING LINE, DUDE!), and then lets her go.

The fact that Malia lunges for him, but immediately shifts back, and masters that control, because control isn't about power and being fearless--it's about feeling your fear and anger, but also feeling your love, and using that to fuel control.

The fact that Stiles is so proud of her, and so softly moves her hair out of her face, and they just embrace each other with everything they have.

The fact that, even though you can see the small hint of relief that crosses Stiles's face, proving that there was a small part of him that wasn't sure if it would work, he powered through and trusted her, because he really believed he could, and it WORKED.

IT F*CKING WORKED!!

LOVE CONQUERS ALL, DUDE, I SWEAR TO GOD!!!

I WILL ALWAYS LOVE THAT!!!

AND I FREAKING LOVE STALIA SO MUCH!!! THEY SERIOUSLY LOVE AND CARE FOR EACH OTHER SO MUCH AND PUT SO MUCH OF THEIR HEARTS ON THE LINE FOR EACH OTHER AND THEY TRUST EACH OTHER WITH THEIR VERY LIVES AND I LOVE THEM SO MUCH!!! <3 <3 <3 <3

Okay okay, with the romantic relationships out of the way, let's get to the platonic ones, shall we?

Freaking Derek and Noah, dude!! This team-up is seriously incredible.

I absolutely love how much they trust each other, and I love that they have each other's backs. Like, I appreciate how much Noah trusts Derek's suspicions and instincts ("You nervous makes me nervous."), and I really appreciate how much Derek trusts Noah's input about what they're dealing with (oh boy...this is giving me even more reasons to ship Sterek lol). Also, I absolutely LOVE how many times Derek saved Noah's life in that school (his suspicion about the pool of blood, warning Noah about the axe, and knocking him out of the way when Peter came barreling over), and how well they worked together to take down Mouthless Creepo. Plus, you really have to appreciate the fact that Derek, despite being a f*cking werewolf, did not do what Peter wound up doing, and instead, was willing to have Stilinski arrest him, because, as he so brilliantly said, "We've learned a better way." (also, I kind of appreciate that Noah didn't shoot Peter, probably because he knew Derek would be less than pleased, despite what Peter just did).

That duo has seriously been so great all episode and I really hope we get to see more of them.

And then FREAKING CHRIS ARGENT'S RETURN!! LET'S F*CKING GO!!!

That whole scene with Scott, albeit small, was SOOOO AMAZING OMG!

WHEN I TELL YOU I WAS SO EXCITED WHEN THAT ARROW CAME FLYING IN LIKE--

"How did you know?" "I got your text."

*SCREAMS*

Can we just talk about how freaking AMAZING it is that Chris and Scott are still on such good terms after everything? Like, they started off on the WORST of terms, as we all know, and then Chris's wife’s and eventually daughter's deaths were both indirectly caused by their respective relationships to Scott (I don't blame Scott, just so we're clear, but you know what I mean), but he knows and understands that Scott is struggling just as much as the rest of them, if not moreso, and he's STILL HERE FOR HIM and STILL HELPING HIM, and he was RIGHT THERE TO SAVE THE DAY and he's STILL ON OUR TEAM!

AND THEN THE FACT THAT CHRIS IS SO ACCEPTING OF THIS AND SO HELPFUL I JUST!

"What are you gonna do?" "He's your Beta, Scott. The better question is what are you gonna do?"

CHARACTER GROWTH!! WE LOVE TO SEE IT!!

And THEN, the fact that he says EXACTLY what I was trying to say earlier.

"He doesn't listen to me." "He will if you start using your own words."

LITERALLY!! You EARNED that True Alpha status, Scott, and you earned it by BEING YOU. So BE YOU, because that's all you need to be.

And then just like...

The fatherly affection and support that was present in that whole conversation. That was so soft and so beautiful and OH MY GOD I LOVED THAT WHAT A GREAT WAY TO BRING CHRIS ARGENT BACK INTO THE SEASON!!

I really hope we get to see more of those two!!

And last, but CERTAINLY not least, we get our Alpha and our Beta.

LET'S!

F*CKING!

GO!

THAT'S what I'm talking about Scott.

You listen, and you coach, and you stay kind and supportive and empathetic, and then you lead by example, because THAT'S what you're all about.

The way that Liam just starts breaking down, because he's scared, and he's hurting, and he feels guilty, and he doesn't want to let his parents down again, and he feels like he's a monster, not even just from the bite, but because of who he is.

The way that Scott just GETS it, because he's BEEN there, and he knows what Liam's going through, but Stiles didn't let him go through it alone, and Scott's not gonna let Liam go through it alone, either.

AND THE LINES!

AND THE SWELLING MUSIC!

AND THE CAMERA WORK!

The way that Scott just stands up with all the confidence in the world, because this is how he knows how to lead.

The way Chris watches on, a small little proud smile making it's way onto his face, because THAT'S the Scott he knows (and loves).

"You're not a monster."

The way that Liam turns to look at him, fear and guilt turning into something more awed and determined.

"You're a werewolf. Like me."

AND THEN WE GET THE EYE GLOW!

AND WE GET THAT LITTLE LIAM SMIRK!!

AND OUR ALPHA AND BETA PAIRING IS BORN AND THIS IS GONNA BE AMAZING AHHH!!!

GOD that was amazing!!

WHAT an episode!!

I seriously feel like the relationships in this show are just so special and truly something else, and that entire sequence of events just proved my point.

I LOVE THIS SHOW SO FREAKING MUCH I SWEAR!! <3 <3

I have no idea what plans my family has tonight, but I'm sure I'll find the time to watch at least one more episode, and if not, I definitely will be later this week, fear not. XD <3

I LOVE ALL OF THESE AMAZING ROMANCES AND FRIENDSHIPS AND FAMILIAL RELATIONSHIPS SO MUCH!! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3