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[ninjapotatohead]

"Super Forms were not meant to be pink"

*Taps sign*

It's just additive blending white. His palette overall is incorrectly pinkish in 3K ingame compared to art. White blending on his art red makes it more orangish

Precisely. Again, the idea that Knuckles' super form is always pink by default has never been a thing outside of the Archie comics. Archie's done irreparable damage to the series, I swear.

What's more, like you said, Knuckles was made incorrectly more of a pinkish shade of red in the Mega Drive era, and this quirk is kept in Mania.

Add on the aforementioned white blend, and...

[ninjapotatohead]

IdwSonic and MovieSonic are both stupid and bad so people glazing the Sonic movies while saying idw Sonic is bad writing are hilarious hypocritical.

It's really not. The Sonic films aren't canon; they're their own stories separated from the games. The movies, for better or for worse, can be completely skipped over. Movie Sonic is clearly not supposed to be/replace Game Sonic at all. As such, I judge the movies accordingly.

That's FAR more than I can say for the IDWverse, where you're expected to be able to take the comics as canon to the games, and as such, believe that Game Sonic do even half the uncharacteristically idiotic and scummy things his comic portrayal would do.

I'm not gonna act like the movies aren't without their flaws (hell, even I'll fully admit they do things that irk me), but to lump them in with the comics is straight-up disingenuous.

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You think the games are better? Show me a scene on par with those pages of Sonic putting his imposter in his proper place.

You say that like it's some high bar to clear. It's really not.

Shadow telling Mephiles to shut the fuck up

Now, with the infinitely better green rival this time

Sonic being a snarky bastard in the face of adversity

Sonic being a snarky bastard in the face of adversity... IN SPACE!

Tails Adventure, just in general

The list goes on and on and on.

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Lol, Sheeptits McGee is just as good as Sally Sheeples. XD I've only nicknamed her that due to as to who the former Archie writers are clearly trying to emulate with her bossy to short-sighted dipshittery. But you, nah you just go for the jugular because of her big boobs. Respect B)

Yeah, throughout all the social media posts and tangents defending (read: "white-knighting") her that all sound like the insane ramblings of a madman, the only consistent thread connecting them all is that they tend to be from Rule 34 artists/creators and other NSFW accounts praising her for - what else? - her prominent bust size and tyrannical bitchiness.

And, I've said this before, but it bears repeating, they always bemoan her detractors with some variation of "... But we NEEEEED more bitchy queens because Sonic's NEVER done rude characters before, and we've NEVER gotten a character like dommy-mommy sheep girl before!"

... y'know, if we ignore that

A) Silver had his backbone completely removed, even though he himself was, in fact, kind of an asshole in the games.

and B) Wave is literally RIGHT THERE!

And I always bring her up specifically because she's literally Lanolin's character archetype but significantly better-written. Not only is she just as rude and catty as Lanolin (supposedly) is, but Wave at least has the competence and years of experience to back it up. Wave doesn't just talk the talk, she's more than capable of walking the walk; she's every bit as intelligent as she claims.

Also helps that Wave is... y'know, a rival character? She serves as the foil for Tails (as do the rest of the Babylon Rogues for the other two members of Team Sonic). Even despite this (as @beevean pointed out previously), it's still believable that her and the other two rogues are still friends, or at least have some degree of mutual respect for the other.

Sheep-Tits McGee, on the other hand, doesn't even have that going for her. She's little more than a rookie who was put into a leadership position (that she did nothing to earn) and does little more than bully literal war veterans into submission just to feel better about herself.

It's even funnier when you consider that the Eggperial City arc has shown multiple times that the conflict resolves itself when the others DON'T follow her orders, because all she does is make matters worse.

Of course, none of that matters because her more ardent fans defend her and ignore any and all criticism of her. They just think her YouTuber Apology™ is enough to absolve her for no other reason than...

Which, unsurprisingly, has earned her the moniker I continue to give her.

[ninjapotatohead]

Not really? The level design, characterization and dialogue are way better in the superior and far less clingy (DS) version.

2D Game, and Pontaff wrote the DS version as well.

Speaking as someone who's played both the Wii and DS versions... mich like Unleashed, Sonic's friends showing up in the handheld version did NOT contribute anything meaningful to the overall plot at all. Storywise, the only difference is that, once again, Super Sonic is relegated to a purely final boss encounter.

Also, the console version has Eggman's PA announcements. That alone makes it superior. I don't make the rules.

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(obviously I'm not Xdamz the loser stalker) sometimes I wonder if sonic fans on twitter really know the characters they claim to be fan of like now I see a thread saying that "Eggman isn't evil, just ignorant in the classic era"

like what is this Adi Shankar shit ?? like hello enslaving animals, Sonic CD literally exists and eggman bombing Angel Island in Sonic 3 (& knuckles get electrocuted)

Shit like this has me like 💀

They really just conveniently ignore the fact that Eggman not only built Scrap Brain Zone (a place with a myriad of traps, buzz-saws, flamethrowers, all built to kill/torture the player), but also built the fuck-mothering Death Egg.

Also, if Knuckles Chaotix's bad ending is any indication, Eggman is completely willing to tear the world asunder.

Hell, Sonic 3D Blast (which we know is canon thanks to Shadow Generations) literally has Eggman bluntly state that he wants to capture the Flickies and take over the world.

Who the fuck are they trying to fool?

[ninjapotatohead]

Don’t insult Shiro Maekawa

You lot are so fine with candidly wishing harm upon AND threatening death towards Ken Pontac & Warren Graff; why should I listen to you?

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Copium is thinking the games hold a candle to the better written comics, hopium is hoping the better stuff will be canned. Move on to nopium and accept reality!

Copium is thinking that the comics are in any way more popular than the games they're based on when IDW Publishing is in such dire financial straits (to the point where their stock market is in the toilet) all because you've never played said games.

Copium is thinking that a series of comics from a company that is literally bleeding money holds a candle to the games they're literally based on purely because you've never played any of them.

Copium is thinking that the folks developing the games are somehow worse people than the staff of said company who have laid off several employees to line their own pockets like their names are "Bobby Kotick" because you've never played the games.

The only person who's on copium and needs to "accept reality" is you.

[ninjapotatohead]

Pontaff are GONE, at the very least you should be thankful for their influence being diminished.

Except I'm not thankful for anything that came about because they left. I have no reason to be.

I'm not thankful for the people who treated them (and Iizuka) like subhuman purely because of their writing or overall presence in the franchise not being what the fans delude themselves into thinking the franchise "should be".

I'm not thankful for the pitiful members of this fandom for sending them literal threats of violence to the point of them literally fearing for their lives.

I'm not thankful for how egregiously poor quality the officially licensed encyclopedia for the entire franchise turned out.

I'm not thankful for the inflated egos of the folks involved with a comic run by a publishing company that is literally bleeding money.

I'm not thankful for the hive-minded and whingy fans permeating pretty much any and all discussion about the franchise, let alone them being so desperate for Sonic Frontiers to win a damned awards show that they resort to slitting their wrists and sending photos to the host of the event.

I'm not thankful for the franchise turning out even more meta than the supposed "Meta Era" only for the fans to eat it up despite their previous claims of not liking the franchise being tongue-in-cheek (even though the franchise was always tongue-in-cheek)

I'm not thankful for the mediocre slog that is Sonic Prime getting greenlit.

I'm not thankful for the voice actors getting harassed and shoved around by stupid fans who know nothing about the voice acting industry OR the craft itself when (most of them) have done nothing wrong.

And why SHOULD I be?

[ninjapotatohead]

He actually had standards in the Classic era and the start of the 3D era.

No the fuck he didn't.

[ninjapotatohead]

I asked you this question before in the comments section on something related to IDW Sonic, but you probably didn't see it, so I might as well ask you directly.

You said that in Sonic Heroes, Vector was the only one who knew that Dr. Eggman was their client. And Eggman himself says that Vector knew it was him all along, and Vector basically reaffirms this by saying "It's all part of being a good detective."

Did Vector actually know that from the start? Or was it just a lucky guess that ended up being corroborated by in-game evidence?

It's not until after the Egg Albatross fight that the teams all find the fake Eggman, and in the Team Chaotix version, Vector explicitly says "Guess that Eggman was a fake after all."

What led him to this conclusion?

Yeah, good question.

I wanna assume Vector knew from the start that Team Chaotix's client was Eggman (due in no small part to the fact that I always sort of imagined that may have been the in-universe justification for Rouge to perceive that Vector was just acting coy), but if I had to hazard a guess, I'd assume he had suspicions from the start that only grew around Rail Canyon/Bullet Station; something that Vector even alludes to after beating the Egg Albatross.

Then, there's the exchange in Robot Storm, which... more or less confirmed Vector was right on the money (pun FULLY intended).

What makes it even more confusing is the fact that, when fighting the Egg Hawk in Team Chaotix's campaign, Charmy seems to be the only member who doesn't know who Dr. Eggman is.

I think it's just easier to accept that Heroes' storytelling wasn't particularly thought out very well.

[ninjapotatohead]

It gets me people thought Shadow can ask other Sonic chars about his past when his game came out

What, that he committed war crimes out of misled revenge? It doesn't really address anything. Nor did they personally witness the massacre 50 years ago

For whether he's the original or not, Rouge doesn't know, Omega is just "yeah there might be the OG to ref, but I dunno", no one else even is aware of the androids, and Shadow literally sees the Shad Androids after the Egg Albatross fight smashed. He literally won't learn anything besides "oh no, I might be fake"

The only person he can learn shit from is Eggman, but uh, good luck there, that evil dipshit isn't gonna squeal. He didn't in the endings. Even in Last Story it's a last minute ultimatum of dying strictly to motivate Shadow. And it's a verrrry delayed Easter egg

The fandom weirdly acts like it's no biggie to get answers entirely cuz they ignore that meta does not mean that other chars automatically will know shit

Same for weirdly ignoring he moved on. I've seen people deadass say he should've time traveled in 06 to save Maria. Like why, Mephiles is the way bigger priority, regardless how sloppy he's handled

I blame X's dumbass way of handling the amnesia. Literally made "Maria" a trigger word

And no, 4Kids didn't BS this scene, it's straight up that memetic

People really out here forgetting that the only people that know anything about Shadow's past and the reason for his creation... don't actually have the best intentions, to put it mildly.

• Dr. Eggman? Like you said, he knows, but he'd sooner take it to the grave than just politely tell Shadow anything (unless Shadow helps Eggman somehow).

• Black Doom? Also, not a reliable narrator. The dude holds the idea of giving the answers that Shadow is chasing like a carrot on a stick, and even then, only delivers in the form of half-truths; all to essentially coax him into giving him the Chaos Emeralds.

• The GUN Commander? That man's the textbook definition of "Revenge Before Reason." He hates Shadow's fucking guts because he blames him for GUN (the very organization that he's apparently in charge of) raiding the ARK one fateful day; so much so that he was perfectly willing to use Shadow as a scapegoat, and even thought that using a regular ass pistol against a speedy talking hedgehog was a good idea.

Yeah, it's not as simple as "just ask ANYONE ELSE"

[ninjapotatohead]

Colors has the best script in the series, if Eggman's PA announcements aren't enough proof. I know people rag on Pontaff for not knowing anything about the games prior, but I only care that they did research, which they did (they're ragged on for looking at Wikipedia too, which is research!)

Said it before, and I'll keep saying this until I'm blue in the face:

It will never not be funny how fans will always give Pontaff grief for not being knowledgeable about the series when they were hired to write/localize the scripts, yet whenever someone like Ian Flynn or Shiro Maekawa do the exact same thing, they get all the leeway in the world.

Even funnier is how the officially christened Encyclospeedia (which costs real money to own, btw) was headed by Flynn himself, and - on top of also getting its information from Fandom Wikias - infamously houses a myriad of errors; from formatting issues, to factual falsehoods (some of which are mere pages apart).

[ninjapotatohead]

People in the games don't apologize for their fuckups either, you'll be lucky to get even a youtuber apology out of THEM!

A conclusion you'd only reach if you've never played any of the games.

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Was it really an addition by Maewaka ?

I know he said he wanted to add some connections between rush and 06 but it was never explicitly 06 prior to Rush afaik (I even checked his tweet for fact checking)

If you have evidence to back up what you said then pls share, I'm kinda confused ngl lol 😅

I'm always interested to find interesting facts

There was also a clip from an interview he had with EmuEmi a few years ago, but I couldn't seem to find it.

[ninjapotatohead]

(same anon) well I guess IDW sonic cannot beat the blue balls allegations then lol

Unfortunately, this is to be expected.

It's as Beevean and I have said numerous times; the IDWverse is completely incapable of resolving its stories and delivering payoffs in a satisfactory manner.

One YouTuber Apology™ later, and everything is just all hunky-doory.