#spn and diversity
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Dean complimenting fellow queer people on their game
Bonus inverse, trying to out-game someone to vicariously flirt for/with your presumed-but-not-at-all-straight friend who has no game whatsoever:
#it's striking how Sam will nod along in his Good Ally way but Dean is the one relating and being seen on this unspoken higher level#anyway can we add that scripted one to the censorship pile as a safe assumption? Yockey wrote it he'd Know#wild how transparently obvious it is spn's writing room was full of queer creatives+supporters who fought for diversity against corporate#it speaks to the experience because it's from the experience#people who refuse to get that are telling on their own lack of knowledge of The Life irl. I know what you are :)#supernatural#spn#the winchesters#dean winchester#destiel#spnedit#spn meta#parallels#dean is bi#spn is queer#8.11#8.13#11.19#12.20#15.07#spnwin 1.13#12.12#mine
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this character design should be considered an actual sin
#i’m all for imaginative interpretations but PLEASE#st peter is NOT a noseless blond twink he is a 60 year old syrian man#not that i’m expecting like. hazbin hotel of all shows to be biblically accurate LMFAO#i really don’t care if most shows (hazbin; spn; etc) are accurate#since the whole thing is just to have fun and entertain#but like have SOME diversity in character archetype#there’s honestly no reason for me to be posting this on my catholic blog anyway idc abt the plot this is purely a design complaint lol
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It’s 2023 and Castiel is trending under Politics on Twitter. This timeline gets weirder and more cursed every single day.
#i swear the harder i try to run from spn the more it invades my timelines#i am living for the people reblogging and tagging this ‘diversity win?’#like yeah idk either man. im just the messenger LOL#spn#supernatural#destiel#dean winchester#castiel
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the thing is. I will take spn over any new flashy rainbow capitalistic netflix show any day. at least it had a soul
#spn#supernatural#this isnt about good omens tho#i love good omens#but all those new shows on netflix with oh so diverse cast that is more of an advertisement than a story? yeah those
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hi everyone!
taking the opportunity of @sapphicnaturalrights - day 7 - free space to announce: i'm working on a Mary scene pack!!
it should come in 4 parts, and here's the first one with Amy Gumenick scenes! basically a speedrun of 4x03 and 5x13 together, with a focus on Mary 😊 & in .mp4, 6ch, logoless, 1080p
-> LINK <-
#spn scene packs#mary winchester#mary campbell#sapphicnatural#sapphicnaturalrights#the other parts will take longer to make but jsyk that i WILL be working on it bits by bits 🙏💪#my plan so far is to go with pre resurrection / post resurrection / diverse#spn#spn.txt#spn ressources#marynatural#scene pack
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i LIVE for lilith being wlw and my favorite pairing is her & ruby i've literally seen it once in a fic as a random side pairing and it hasn't left my head since
Anon...take my hand 💖
#diversity wins!!#no pressure but if u remember what the fic was i would not object to it being sent my way 👀#supernatural#lilith spn#ask
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smiling serenely, remembering Berens is a dogshit writer
#spn rewatch for your blacklist#diversity win this bad tv writer is gay#and he doesn't even posses whatever problems that cause Charmello to be Like That
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Ty and DJ our superstars
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I may have mixed feelings on SuperWiki as a resource but they really went off with this "Meanings of Episode Titles" entry (the last words are linking to Wayward Sisters)
Berens @ CW/WB:
#my respect for the people who got all the slander and none of the glory for fighting for diversity so obviously against corporate#I woulda turned into Walter from Hollywood Babylon or perhaps any antihero from The Boys by now#supernatural#spn#spn writers#robert berens#network fuckery#mine
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#supernatural#destiel#misha collins#castiel#happy pride month yall#that flaming angel joins our ranks#spn#diversity win. the gay angel got hatecrimed
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#it really is the same kind of ''forced diversity'' argument all other big franchises get. just filtered through our weird fucks#same reason ''it's not ~about that'' takes re: queer canon were a pox during spn's run. people just exist and not only as a Genre karen#like they couldn't conceive of queerness outside of it making a story ''all about'' queerness#and spn's real strength in rep was then being *about* the big metaphysical epic but also featuring queer themes non-incidentally (via @deancasforcutie)
Some thoughts on the spn mothership, the prequel, inclusion in spn, and what this particular endless fandom forever war actually is at its root.
This has all happened before, in other major franchises.
Attempts to expand and become more inclusive get angry kick-back.
File “Jensen the bibro king who only cares about the bro bond” with other targeted wank: bashing on fans who genuinely advocate for more inclusive media and a more inclusive spn, slams on Misha’s activism or calling Misha’s allyship cynical pandering for money, aggressive concern trolling against inclusive characters under a veneer of wokeness. They did it to Wayward Sisters. They don't want it, they hate it, they also pretend to care, just enough to target the inclusive characters and deem them unworthy, but they don't actually care.
The picture is getting clearer and clearer. This is way outside the boundaries of ship wars. It’s them trying to stab a flag in Jensen to claim him for an spn that has no room for anyone but Sam and Dean and pretend he’s their anti-diversity king.
It's attacks on spn being a diverse world, period. Look at how and why they attack the prequel. Why are they mad. They’ve told us why: to them “spn is only Sam & Dean.” That is not just an attempt to gatekeep the spn mothership show. That is a gatekeep on the entire spn universe.
And while kinging him as their anti-diversity wind-up toy they’re also still hating him for the prequel, for not playing along with their narrow mindedness. For not being who they wanted him to be.
At this point, any so called “fans” labeling Jensen “the bibro king who only cares about the bro bond” have shown you what they are. jfc no wonder they hate the prequel this badly.
Some history, for context.
The Silent Majority is a "bibro" fans twitter founded in the hiatus between S7 and S8 to advocate for exclusion. They denied the accusation, but all the language and their posts were insidiously designed to maintain an spn where only Sam and Dean counted.
This has been there, all along, ticking away, and the ship war aspect has clouded what this actually is. It's not just about Cas. It's not just about Destiel. They've gone after marginalized character after marginalized character, in the name of “it's only about the brothers"
This conflict has always been there, since S1.
I love spn as a whole, I’ll even rewatch seasons I don't like as much, but I’ve always been critical of the yankback on the creatives' attempts at making that world more inclusive.
I never asked it to be something it wasn’t. It’s that I responded to the story being told, to the attempts of the creatives to expand that world, and let more diverse characters in, and allow them to matter. It helps the story. It’s not about diminishing Sam and Dean. On the mothership, the brothers were always the centerpiece, and other characters helped to tell their story, but Sam and Dean have also served as windows into other stories along the way, the stories of people who crossed their path and who matter to the brothers.
I’ve been an SPN fan since 2005 and have seen the mothership show pushing against the walls bounding it in for a long time. spn mothership for now remains artifact to enjoy in rewatch, and while I love it, I’m not ever claiming it as some ground-breakingly diverse series, but it smashed a lot of the walls and ceilings placed on it along the way and the creatives fought for more inclusion there for longer than you think.
It’s a different era. Now it’s the spn universe. Inclusion is baked into spn content from the jump. And it’s 2022 not 2005.
Supernatural is for everyone.
#people's existence is not political!!! characters existing who rep marginalized groups do not make a piece of media Only About That Thing#the subtext of endless spn fandom narratives has been backhandedly phobic for a long time 'it would ruin the show' 'it's not about that'#PEOPLE'S!!! EXISTENCE!!! IS NOT!!! POLITICAL!!!!!!!!#dot trolls fandom#thank you for these tags i want to amplify this loudly!!!#also: a work of media does not have to be designed at the jump to center representation as its main thing for rep to be there and matter#spn is a gen appeal series...which should mean NOT BARRING PEOPLE OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!#*screaming in the middle of the woods about this for years*#it's everything the fandom menace has attacked Star Wars with just more veiled#from people who perform as pseudoliberal pseudoprogressive in fandom spaces and don't care who their Karening exclusion dialogues harm#and newsflash THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT DESTIEL AND IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT SHIPS!!! but antis pretend it is#they attack support for marginalized characters by sneering 'all Those People care about is a ship that's the only reason'#marginalized characters matter#cynical concern trolling 'nobody really cares Those People only care about their ships' is part of anti diversity discourse#representation matters#supernatural is for everyone#spn#supernatural
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In the beginning, there was violence and chaos. The beauty of the new world was marred with the crimson of the slain and the anguished cries of those left behind. For centuries, the turbulence waged with alliances constantly shifting between species as warfare continued. Until the Faeries intervened and the Inter-Realm Treaty was signed. It fashioned the birth of the new world that followed, Lume Noua. Seven realms were created, each led by a different species in newly established noble houses across the realms, and set the tone and culture of their new civilizations - one built on the foundation of the peace treaty. Centuries later, in the year, 2600, the Inter-Realm Treaty expired. And a new realm, The Dark World, has risen in public opposition of Lume Noua’s current political order. Will Lume Noua repeat its history and origin story? Will the world as the various beings know it transform, yet again?
LumeNouaRP is an 18+, original character, fantasy based royal roleplay set in a supernatural world. We are an interactive, plot based roleplay that puts you in control of allies and enemies within each realm as none are set at the start. We aim for diversity and inclusivity as well as maintain a safe and fun place to write and interact.
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cas is the way that he is because he’s autistic and we love him
the best!!!!! <33333333
#he is truly so :''))))))#i have never cupped a character in my hands so lovingly and gently and with so much adoration before in my LIFE#spn#anon#signed sealed delivered#diversity win!! this angel has autism <3
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i'm trying to rate supernatural episodes and it was too hard to rank them so i've come up with some categories to get an average score for each episode. my very scientific categories are:
plot
spookiness
humour
~diversity~
monster of the week
vibes
#spookiness and monster of week are separate#because bloody mary isn't a great monster of the week but she is terrifying#~diversity~ is about representation and stereotypes#and vibes is just ones i like i guess#if you are a fellow spn addict (recovered or ongoing lmao)#and you can think of any other categories i should add#please let me know!!!#i feel like i should have more but i don't know what#beth stuff#supernatural lb
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I mean, if I were to guess based on this map overlaid with one on ethnoracial demographics in skipped regions + in other cities in the same states as some spots with episodes, the show is about avoiding anybody who isn't white lol.
#to be fair it seems like the show's got hemlock grove disease where casting for supporting chars & extras#is actually significantly more diverse than it ''should'' be for some chosen settings#but I just skimmed a lil bit of the imdb so frankly I may be being too generous here#I just have 0 intention of reading through a list of 2500+ actors who were in a soap that ran for 15yrs or uncorking the lore behind it lol#this user has been marked as safe from spn#spn
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i'dlovetochangetheworld.mp3
#felt compelled to exorcize whatever this is from my system. this will fix me somehow#diversity win I made it bluegreen#the winchesters#dean winchester#supernatural#spn#spn crack#mine
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