#spent so long doing this i actually forgot this was a game changer clip

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[id: three replies from tumblr user @magpiefrankie that read: (1) maybe im just an idiotic brit but i have never in my life heard parmesan pronounced like that. is that the proper pronunciation?? wow (2) google tells me no thats not the proper pronunciation nevermind, where does the 'j' sound come from im so intrigued (3) parmeJAAN /end id]

this reply sent me down a bit of a rabbit hole because i also pronounce parmesan with that j sound and had not thought about it before, but the word does have an s. but i was sure the change came from SOMEWHERE and the only other person who responded just basically said "have you ever met an american, we pronounce things wrong" which probably should not be applied to regional linguistic differences which i what i suspected this was. i had to know why it's different.

trying to get a foot in the door was kind of annoying because almost everything immediately available was just trying to tell you which one was correct without explaining why, so i ignored articles & buzzfeed listicles for the most part. i'm also not a linguist so i did a cursory search on some academic databases but didn't really have a handle on what keywords to use to find what i was looking for, so i came up empty there

this how to pronounce parmesan video was where i started and probably what anyone curious has also seen. this says the 's' is the correct way but also that the word comes from the italian "parmigiano" which does have that soft g or j sound [i do not know the phonetic alphabet. im so sorry]. the word moves to french and gets the s, and then to english where we [supposedly] keep the s. tracks for european english speakers, but i wondered if maybe english speakers in north america had retained that soft g sound from italian somehow, even though parmesan was anglicized already.

next i found a blog (?) called nachomamasgrilledcheese.com, which i think might be entirely AI generated. there is a minute chance it is just one guy who really likes parmesan cheese, but some of the articles were a little too non-sequitur, and the explanations too circular. every post is by someone named 'jack gloop', but when you click on the profile that says his name is david mcbride and his hobby is 'farmer'. nothing comes up when you reverse image search the profile picture. probably have a vpn if you go to this website i'm a little worried about their privacy policy and cookie agreements in retrospect now BUT ANYWAY i bring it up bc that data doesnt come from nowhere, and that blog kept mentioning 1) influences from italian immigrants and 2) regulations surrounding legally calling a cheese "parmigiano-reggiano" vs "parmesan".

also i spent too long on a few weird unsourced fake websites to not have a paragraph. i had a similar experience on profoundtips.com, where an article claimed it was influence from italian-american immigrants, and was written by Author, whose profile url was a keysmash and redirected to the home page when you clicked it. it was eerie in a way. like if you went to visit someone and they were a cardboard cutout in a show home.

moving back to real people, there's a few stackexchange posts about the topic. this one on the pronunciation of parmesan is mostly people talking about how to pronounce it obvs, but there's one comment by Doug Warren that reads: 'Interestingly, what we call "Parmesan" here in the United States--the powdered cheesy substance in a cylinder--cannot legally be called that in Europe, because it falls afoul of "protected designation of origin" laws, which say that if it's not from Parma, it's not legally "Parmesan".'

this isn't quite what we're looking for, but the legality of the word 'parmesan' crops up a lot, and there's a ton of case law about it. to my understanding this legal difference is not based on the pronunciation of the word parmesan itself, just whether you call it that or some variation of parmigiano-reggiano. this is also what wikipedia is talking about in the "uses of the name" section. and what's being discussed in this insider article. very interesting detour, but not answering our question.

ultimately i think the mosty trustworthy source is people in this quora thread, who say it was italian immigrants to america keeping the soft g from italian. in particular here's Roger Hughes, who i do believe is a real person, and who has listed the credential of a PhD in linguistics:

The standard Italian adjective for the city and province of Parma is “parmigiano”, which is used to refer to the cheese across Italy, except in Reggio Emilia where they'll get cross that you left them out because they make it too. The cheese came to the attention of the mainstream Anglophone culinary world via French, because French cuisine was socially dominant all over the western world for ages. In the mid 19th century French took its name for the cheese, parmesan, from the local dialect word rather than from the standard Italian (modern standardised Italian only really goes back to the 1870s), the modern form of which is “pramzàn". In the USA, 20th century Italian immigrants, who mainly came from the other end of the country from Parma and spoke entirely different dialects, were familiar with parmigiano under that name, encountered it already circulating under the Anglo-French name, and some of them and their descendants adopted a kind of hybrid pronunciation.

so there you have it! neither pronunciation is really 'incorrect'; just different linguistic influences. thank you for coming on this journey to me <3

obsessed with this. theres something so wrong with him.

[razberryyum]

The Untamed/陈情令 Rewatch, Episode 2 (spoilers for everything)

(covers MDZS chaps 6 - 10 and a bit of 13)

WangXian meter: 🐰🐰🐰🐰🐰🐰🐰🐰🐰

(a 🐰 is earned every time there is a WangXian scene or even when they’re just thinking of each other)

I always tell people when I’m trying to get them to watch The Untamed that when they get to this particular scene in the second episode, they’ll know if they will be into the show. To me, this is the game-changer moment: you’re either in or out after this. If this scene doesn’t emotionally move you enough to at least continue on with the drama, nothing else will.  It is seriously one of the most romantic scenes I have ever seen captured on screen. This was the moment that made me realize not only was I now fully committed to CQL, but that I had also found a new obsession and was ready to devote myself to Mo Dao Zu Shi.  After all, something that can lead to the creation of such a beautiful scene MUST hold other invaluable treasures. So into the MDZS rabbit hole I went, happily diving head first.  

Even now I’m still amazed that this scene exists in the intact form that it does. I started The Untamed with little to no expectations, especially knowing the restrictions it was under AND having just finished Guardian and experiencing how poor creative decisions can arise due to censorship (or at least, using that as an excuse for their dumb story choices). As I mentioned previously, the first episode was a hard sell since they definitely did not put their best foot forward first, but I liked Xiao Zhan immediately and Wei Wuxian as a character was interesting enough that I wanted to learn more about his past that led to his death and rebirth. The small glimpses we saw of his relationship with Lan Zhan also fascinated me, but then with this second episode, the weak points of the pilot still remained: there was still bad CGI (the statue) and very amateurish technical mistakes (in the recognition scene, at one point, in a close-up shot they’re holding onto each other, but in the next far away backside shot they’re clearly standing apart from each other, only to return to holding each other once again once the camera cuts back to a close-up...whoever the editor is on CQL probably should dunk their head in the toilet every time these editing errors pop up) that made my initial viewing of this episode a frustrating one for most of its runtime. I think I spent most of my initial viewing just distracted, playing on my phone or something, until the big WangXian moment happened and then I was shocked and awed.  I know I wasn’t paying close attention that first time because when I rewatched the episode later on, I realized I missed a lot of dialogue and details. I have since revisited this second episode numerous times more, and I do feel bad about how dismissive I was initially. It’s a pretty loaded episode: it has funny, poignant, creepy, mysterious, and cool moments while still feeding us bits of the overarching plot. I definitely have developed an affection for it since my first viewing and it’s become one of my favorite episodes in the series.

Of Pining & other Heart-achy Things

This simple line from Jiang Cheng is enough to make my eyes well up with tears: I can’t help but imagine Lan Zhan traveling around the world for sixteen years, most likely all alone, stopping at different places to play Inquiry, fervently hoping that maybe one day he’ll finally receive an answering chord from Wei Ying, only to be confronted by a deafening silence again and again and again. How utterly sad and disappointed he must have been every time, and yet still, he never gave up and just went to the next location to do the same thing and experience the same heavy disappointment all over again. If that doesn’t make your heart ache, I’m sorry to tell you, your heart is no longer functional.

It’s a detail I don’t remember if the novel covered, but I’m assuming that Lan Zhan was the one to bring Wei Ying’s inventions like the spirit attraction flag and the compass back to Gusu and incorporate them for use in his sect’s normal cultivation practices.  I know other people have use his tools as well since that nameless cultivator at the start of the episode was also using the spirit compass, but I feel that with Lan Wangji, he probably purposefully acquired and adapted WWX’s techniques so that every time they’re used, they can serve as a reminder of Wei Ying for him. Though it does make me wonder how Lan Zhan managed to get those approved by his uncle; I can’t imagine Lan Qiren being ok with using anything that was created by the man whom he blames for the corruption of his beloved nephew and model student. Did LWJ just pretend he created them instead? That doesn’t even sound right. Maybe Uncle Lan decided to be merciful and just let Lan Zhan win this one since he was probably obviously miserable after Wei Ying’s death.   Yeah, I can buy that scenario, especially since the flag and compass are pretty useful tools.  

I wondered did LWJ already suspect “Mo Xuanyu” was Wei Ying before he started playing Wuji on his flute. It’s curious that he happened to be in that part of the forest at that time. I’m guessing his Wei Ying senses were tingled when he heard about Mo Xuanyu’s skills from Sizhui and the boys so that’s why he was hanging around the vicinity just in case MXY reveals his true identity. After waiting 16 years for this reunion, it’s no wonder Lan Zhan had no qualms about holding onto WWX’s wrist in public for much longer than socially appropriate.  

I actually get a little emotional every time I rewatch this episode and watch Jin Ling display his mad archery skills because I would always think of how much he takes after his dad. His parents would’ve been so proud to see him all grown up like this; Shijie would’ve been so happy she probably would get teary-eyed as well every time she saw her boy in action. Sure, he’s a spoiled little princess, but he is also a pretty skilled princess with a heart of gold and I just wish they had more time together as a family.  

They looked so happy, look at all those smiles. It really makes me so sad that Wei Ying will probably never be able to hug JC like that again, and of course he’ll never be able to hug Shijie period. Great now I want to cry again.

Lan Jingyi Appreciation Section

I don’t think I’ve ever mentioned this precious boy by name so far, so I wanted to take this opportunity to show him some much deserved love. Lan Jingyi with his resting bitch face and steady stream of snark was really the MVP of this episode. He actually made me laugh out loud a few times...in fact, he almost always makes me laugh as soon as he scrunches up his face like he’s smelling something bad. I recently saw someone mention that he’s really the most un-Lan of the Lans (sorry, I forgot who posted that so I apologies for not giving proper credit) and that is really the perfect description of him. I love this kid as much as I love Sizhui and Jin Ling, and I am also sincerely fascinated by him. I mean, who raised him in the Gusu Lan sect? Cuz I cannot imagine Lan Qiren being the one since Jingyi undoubtedly would’ve had all his snark driven out of him at an early age. Hell, the amount of disciplinary action he probably had to have gone through would’ve probably killed him at a young age.  Did he join the sect when he was already fully formed so that’s why he’s still breaking Lan sect rules right and left? He threatened an old man and is like rude to everyone. I don’t know all 3000 rules but I’m pretty sure being mean to the elderly and insulting to supposedly mentally unstable people are probably not allowed. If anything, his disposition would make him more suitable for the Lanling Jin sect and yet he’s with the stuffy Lans. WHY? I could watch a whole spin-off series with just him and the other juniors as long as we get to learn about how he came to be with the Gusu Lan sect. He’s hilarious and adorable, and among the many the reasons why I wish we had more episodes for the present-day arc, one of them is because I wanted to spend more time with the juniors, especially Lan Jingyi, even if it meant the screenwriters would’ve had to go off book and create new scenes for them. It would’ve been well worth it to hear LJY throw more shade at people.  

Random Bits of Randomness

It’s kinda crazy how WWX just stood there with his back turned, oblivious to Jin Ling’s attack. If Lan Zhan’s blade hadn’t blocked JL’s sword, that would’ve been the end of our main protagonist. I just thought that was such an odd scene...I would’ve felt just a little better if Wei Ying had at least had a little more awareness that an attack was heading for him and made some attempt to get out of the way.  

Ugh, that mask. First of all it’s ugly AF, and secondly it’s so freaking ill-fitting it was distracting. Would’ve been nice if the production team gave him a mask that actually fit his face. I mean, did it HAVE to be THAT damn big? I’m amazed they don’t have bts clips of Xiao Zhan tripping and hurting himself because the stupid mask blocked his vision.

Other than being a brilliant mastermind and Oscar-worthy actor, Nie Huaisang has got to be one of the greatest cultivators if not THE greatest cultivator of all time to be able to conjure up an illusion like that. That thing was doing real damage to people. If it was just a phantom, what the heck was holding up those two cultivators in midair like that? And what kicked Jin Ling around? I know Wei Ying was able to drive people crazy with his flute during his Yiling Patriarch phase, but his handiwork still felt more grounded and reasonable than this.  

Questions I still have (please feel free to answer them):

- Who was that old man at the grave? Someone NHS paid to just hang around the graves until the juniors and WWX came by?  

- So NHS basically fucked up Yan’s entire family and God knows how many other people just to get WWX to eventually play his flute to lure Wen Ning out from wherever he was hiding?

- How did JGY not know Wen Ning escaped? Or did he just leave those details to Xue Yang so he didn’t really care about what happened to Wen Ning?  I’m trying if this was addressed in the book but my mind is coming up empty. I don’t think it was brought up in the show though, or I just completely missed it.

Overall Episode Rating: 9 Lil Apples out of 10