#sorry for taking your post and running with it shanna it just awakened some deep emotions in me
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bluerosesburnblue · 8 months ago
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The thing is, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth isn't even the problem. It's going to sell well when they stop kneecapping it. The numbers look bad now, but that's entirely because right now it's a PS5 exclusive. It looks bad in comparison to Remake, but Remake released on PS4, a much easier console to get. I'm sure that Rebirth will start making up the numbers once it has a PC release because that's what people who lack a PS5, including some who owned a PS4 for Remake, are going to be getting it on
And that's ultimately the crux of Square's issues: bad decisions that don't pay attention to the market. FF7 Rebirth and FF16 are both suffering from PS5 exclusivity right now. PC usage for games is extremely popular, partly because it tends to sidestep the console exclusivity issue unless a company does something like this and hard delays the PC release just to keep it fully exclusive longer. Despite the fact that console exclusivity helps no one (except maybe the console sellers) in terms of sales because a lot of people who would otherwise play the game don't have the spare cash lying around to spend on a new console for whatever they're interested in, so they have to wait until it comes out on something they CAN play. Especially true of the PS5, which is expensive as hell and was prone to shortages after release. Which means that for all of their complaining, Square has a ton of unrealized gains on their IPs just because the PC releases that were promised aren't even out yet, and plenty of people are just waiting until they are
But the more they delay, the greater risk of those people who would have bought it on another console have of getting the story spoiled, or losing hype, or getting into something else, or just plain old deciding that they don't care anymore. And that'll be true of any game they release, regardless of whether it has the Final Fantasy brand attached or not, if they keep up this exclusivity stuff
Combine that with a number of just... baffling decisions and flops like:
Forspoken being a massive flop, panned for mediocre gameplay, bad dialogue, a weak story, and unlikable characters despite the massive budget behind it (and I do mean massive, it's probably where most of the financial loss is from)
New IPs that seems to be creatively uninspired and not fun to play, like Foamstars, which literally everyone said looked like Splatoon and is apparently just not a good PVP shooter
That fucking Symbiogenesis NFT nonsense, a game that you can only play by buying an NFT of a generic character, well after the NFT trend was over
And neglected legacy IPs like Kingdom Hearts going years without any real updates, and for KH all we do have is the horribly contradictory concept of a plot-heavy ARG game that you can play at home, which I can't believe was greenlit because it defeats the entire purpose of it being an ARG. And that still has no release date
...and it's no wonder that they lost $140m. And those are just the IPs I'm aware of. Like, let's be honest here, between an actually okay one-console showing for FF7 Rebirth and FF14, Final Fantasy is their money-maker right now. I'd be surprised if they didn't go more in on FF, because literally everything else is completely failing on them right now
It's so sad how fasts things can change in some cases...
Because, before we knew how many millions of dollars Square Enix had recently lost, I kept wanting to make a post about why I thought that a Final Fantasy VIII Remake was a really good/fun idea, even though Square Enix themselves and some fans might be hesitant about one in some regards.
And IDK... I still might end up making that post. But do I honestly think we'll ever see one now? No.
Chances were slim before... But if Final Fantasy VII Remakes can't really sell well (at least this most recent one -sobs-), we can honestly kiss our chances at most other ones goodbye:( Especially ones that would be even harder and more time consuming to make (and more costly).
Though I do think FFIX Remake is still happening. And maybe that rumor about an FFX Remake could be true.
#liz's shenanigans#i have so many thoughts on square enix right now but most of them boil down to 'the games have no distinct identity anymore'#but that's true of a lot of games to me. i watch any given games showcase and they all just blend together#like unironically if i was not already aware of the ff ip i would not have noticed ff7r and ff16 trailers at the game awards#they both look like every other game out there (which is why kh4's realistic style worries me a LOT)#hell the only reason i remember foamstars is because some streamers i watch started calling it 'soapland' as a joke#the most memorable thing they've put out to me recently is ntwewy and they didn't advertise it AT ALL while spending so much on forspoken#and don't even get me started on how khml should not be an arg. especially not years after the arg craze#like between that and symbiogenesis they just keep missing trends by such huge margins#final fantasy's the one thing they're doing right at this point but it also just doesn't appeal to me because i don't care about 'realistic#graphics at all which is where an insane amount of their budget keeps going. they're obsessed with graphics but the models move so rigidly#like... i don't know. what i've seen of ff7r looks good but i have no nostalgia for it and other games to play that appeal to me more#(p5r baby i'm coming back soon i promise) and ff16's story just didn't stick with me because i felt the ending flopped#+ the gameplay didn't appeal to me#but at least i can see the audiences for those games as opposed to... foamstars? forspoken? symbiogenesis? who's playing those?#square's in such a weird middle zone of playing it very safe with these generic trend-chasers and identity-less new ips#but also too experimentally with them#does that make sense? i mean that foamstars being a shooter with active terrain changing capabilities that play with verticality#is experimental in a good way conceptually but that aspect wasn't developed enough to be fun in practice#but it's all dressed up in a visual style that i would struggle to discern from fortnite and a name that doesn't evoke... anything#and i know that square's only the publisher on that game but it's being marketed and sold as a square enix game#and falls in line with things like symbiogenesis that they are developing in-house#like what the fuck does symbiogenesis MEAN in terms of the game?#kingdom hearts may be a goofy-ass title but it's at least evocative of things in the game#the 'kingdom' being disney kingdoms and 'hearts' implying a deep-dive into emotions and personhood#'the world ends with you' is dramatic and eye-catching and ultimately speaks to the themes of the game#what the hell is a 'forspoken' and why should i care?#sorry for taking your post and running with it shanna it just awakened some deep emotions in me#square enix is one of a handful of companies that i would like to take the ceo for and shake them violently by the shoulders#until they get their shit together
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