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I know shit all about the Fallout timeline past NV, and am not sure where the show is going to fall on it? But it will be haunting me until April that there’s a cast listing on IMDB for Robert House.
#also cannot bring myself to care about hard canon as long as the vibes are right!#as my bff said: THE VIBES ARE PARAMOUNT#also Dallas Goldtooth AND Matt Berry are guest stars?#I’m an FNV Independent Vegas girlie (gn)#so coming back to the west and saying ‘hm maybe empire is bad actually’ is the core of what I need#fallout tv#that’ll be my tag for now I guess
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“what the fuck is houshin engi”
my friend ellis asked me to help explain houshin engi to them because they were having trouble Grocking the worldbuilding of the series. and as we all know i cannot physically shut up ever. maybe more people than ellis will find this useful?
i’m so sorry if you’re on tumblr mobile. forgive me.
ok so. HOUSHIN ENGI is a manga by fujisaki ryuu, based off an ancient chinese novel/myth called FENGSHEN YANYI. if you’ve heard of journey to the west, fengshen yanyi is like that. except a different story. FY is pretty much completely unknown in the west but it’s apparently decently popular in japan. i lost my source on this but i’ve read that this popularity is due in part to the japanese translator of FY making some fairly drastic changes to the source material, like making the character shen gongbao (shinkouhyou) less of an outright antagonist and more of a neutral party.
anyway being an ancient chinese myth the story takes place in ancient china. being a mythological account there are more than just humans running around in there! there are also SENNIN. what are sennin? they are, put simply, taoist immortals. the basic idea is if you ‘cultivate’ long enough you ascend from your humanhood and become a sennin. if you’ve read any wuxia/xianxia manhua ever it’s basically that. there’s an article entitled “Sennin: The Immortals of Taoism” by janet carpenter and this is a quote from it:
“According to legend, the immortals [sennin] were at one time historical personages who achieved transcendence by refining body and mind. In addition to serving as an inspiration to human souls striving for inner peace or for everlasting life, the immortals functioned as guardians of Taoism.”
those still in the process of becoming sennin are known as DOUSHI.
sennin can be either human in origin, or they can come from animals or rocks or like. things. sennin who aren’t human are called YOUKAI SENNIN.
so. we have HUMANS, SENNIN (immortals), DOUSHI (sennin in training), and YOUKAI SENNIN. the shorthand term for both “sennin and doushi” is SENDOU, btw.
humans live down on earth in the HUMAN WORLD, and sennin live up in the SENNIN WORLD, which isn’t a separate “world” but is just. floating mountains. rocks in the sky. but humans aren’t allowed up there so it’s separate. there are two major places in the sennin world: KONGRONG MOUNTAIN and KINGOU ISLAND, which are home to human and youkai sennin respectively. neither school is exclusively one race but they are the majority human/youkai.
there are racial tensions between human and youkai sennin because we can’t have nice things, ever.
ok. the STORY STARTS at the end of the YIN DYNASTY, which was a real dynasty in history. we open at the capital city of the yin, CHOUKA. we are introduced to yin’s emperor, CHUUOH. the emperor is widely described as being a great king with one fatal flaw. you know that Funny Saying about how men have two heads but they can only think with one of them at a time? well any time chuuoh is presented with a choice between thinking with the head on his shoulders or the head between his legs he’s gonna choose his d*ck every time. dude’s horny. it’s an issue.
it’s especially an issue because his current favourite wife, DAKKI, is twice as smart as she is beautiful and boy is she smokin’. by the time we meet them, dakki has chuuoh wrapped around her finger and is causing him to make some pretty unwise leadership choices because Hehe Booby. taxes are high, morale is down, people are starving. refugees are leaving chouka, the capital, in droves. it’s a bad situation.
so. cut to KONGRONG MOUNTAIN, home of the human half of the sennin world. the leader of kongrong mountain, GENSHI TENSON, summons his disciple, TAIKOUBOU, and tells him about the situation in chouka, with dakki and chuuoh.
genshi tenson: taikoubou. the emperor’s current wife is actually a YOUKAI SENNIN. she is seducing chuuoh not only with her looks, but with a spell called “temptation” that does what it says on the tin. she is driving the country to ruin taikoubou: that sounds pretty fucked up genshi tenson: yeah it is taikoubou: so what are you going to do about it genshi tenson: i’m making you defeat 365 pre-determined targets to seal their souls in a device i’ve made called the HOUSHINDAI. to seal someone in it is to HOUSHIN them. you will do this to defeat dakki and i will sit here eating dumplings taikoubou: okay!
(houshin engi = 封神演義, “封神” “houshin” “ 封”, hou, “seal”; “ 神” shin/kami, “god”. i’m nnnot entirely sure how to translate “ 演義”, engi, but it’s something like.... to write down as a story. so essentially houshin engi is “the story of the sealed gods”. the english translation of fengshen yani translates it as either “creation of the gods” or “investiture of the gods” because in the original myth all the taoists like die and then they get canonized as deities. or something. still working on reading it)
anyway. taikoubou initially rejects leading the HOUSHIN PROJECT, which is what this whole shebang is called, but genshi tenson threatens to kick him out of kongrong and send him back to earth if he doesn’t. ALSO, it’s revealed that this isn’t the first time dakki has made an emperor her sugar daddy. the last time it happened, her orders directly resulted in the deaths of taikoubou’s family. so he’s got some personal beef to pick with dakki as well!
so taikoubou accepts the challenge, and off he goes. a bunch of shit happens.
the important thing here is that dakki’s fucked around so much that simply booting her out isn’t going to do much good any more. chuuoh has lost the trust of the people! they are ready for a new king! even if chuuoh were to shape up completely everyone would still be holding their breath waiting for him to go off the deep end again. change needs to happen.
under chuuoh’s rule there are four subordinate kings, one for each cardinal direction, that report to him. (they in turn rule a bunch of other guys but that’s not important.) the KING OF THE WEST, KI SHOU, was wrongfully imprisoned at chouka, capital of the yin, for several years. his son ki hakuyuukou came to try and rescue him but dakki ganked him and fed him to ki shou in a hamburger, rip hakuyuukou i hope you tasted nice. after the burger incident KOU HIKO convinces chuuoh to let ki shou go. sorry i kind of skipped over hiko existing. he’s a human member of chuuoh’s court but he isn’t swayed by dakki’s temptation and he has an Honest Heart so he’s a good guy. he’s also a military general which is a fact that will be important later.
anyway ki shou returns to SEIKI, his home town and the capital of the western states. seiki’s like a state capital whereas chouka is washington dc. anyway ki shou is like “hm that was fucked up.”
some more shit happens. i’m like skimming over all of the actual plot to just explain Why it happens. anyway. another member of chuuoh’s court is the sennin BUNCHUU. bunchuu is a human but he was taught at KINGOU ISLAND as opposed to kongrong. bunchuu has a deep personal stake in the existence of the yin empire. he’s ousted dakki a time or two before but she’s POWERED UP since the last time that happened and isn’t gonna quit so easily this time. bunchuu thinks everything will be solved if dakki can just die already.
some more shit happens. chuuoh accidentally causes the deaths of KOU HIKO’S wife and sister, so hiko’s like “fuck THIS, i’m outta here” and decides to leave chouka with his surviving family.
bunchuu’s like “hey uh you’re the general of the entire fucking military and if you leave chouka the people’s hearts will go with you so you cannot do this thing?” and hiko’s like “bro the people’s hearts are already GONE i know you’re my best friend and also in love with me probably but i can’t stay at the scene of my trauma. bye”
so hiko leaves and bunchuu freaks out and there are assassins and shit but the kou family makes it to seiki safely.
by this point in time taikoubou is ALSO in seiki and has hit up ki shou like “hey you know the hearts of the people are ready for revolution also i think you would make a pretty good emperor?” and kishou is like “yeah man what happened in chouka was pretty fucked up so i can get behind that. i’m going to make a NEW DYNASTY, the ZHOU DYNASTY.”
then he dies because he’s old and traumatized from eating his son as a hamburger so the eldest living son, KI HATSU, assumes the throne and title of BUOU, which is like chuuoh but COOLER.
so. there is war between the HUMANS, the YIN EMPIRE versus the fledgling ZHOU EMPIRE.
meanwhile bunchuu is having precisely None Of That! so he’s like “taikoubou........ if the sennin of kongrong are involved with this i’m going to drag ALL OF KINGOU ISLAND TO BATTLE, BECAUSE THIS IS A WISE AND INTELLIGENT CHOICE THAT WILL DEFINITELY WORK OUT WELL.”
so. there is war between the SENNIN, in the form of KINGOU ISLAND versus KONGRONG MOUNTAIN. apparently the floating mountains are also battleships? fujiryu likes his scifi. anyway that shit happens.
there is also DAKKI, who is still an enemy! though bunchuu fights against kongrong, he is not on her side! in fact, dakki is up to something SNEAKY AND NEFARIOUS, perhaps involving a MYSTERIOUS UNKNOWN BACKER. after all, she’s really smart! if all she wanted was a luxurious lifestyle, why is she convincing chuuoh to make shitty political decisions? and hey, what else has she been doing to chuuoh while bunchuu hasn’t been looking....?
ok. that is. a lot of words that kind of cuts off abruptly but i didn’t want to spoil any plot elements that you (ellis) haven’t gotten to yet. uh hopefully this makes things less confusing and not more lol. if you have any more questions just ask me?? yeah
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ALL THE DAMN QUESTIONS YOU HOBO
i can’t beliEVE YOU…………….. here we go.
1: 6 of the songs you listen to most?
gah ok….. CURRENTLY. Hallelujah - Panic at the Disco , Menswear - The 1975 , Good Ol Fashion Nightmare - Matt and Kim , Duele El Corazon - Enrique Iglesias , Welcome to My Life - Empire of the Sun , Ode To Sleep - Twenty one Pilots
2: If you could meet anyone on this earth, who would it be?
simon pegg! my favorite actor!
3: Grab the book nearest to you, turn to page 23, give me line 17.
it’s my textbook for my online class i don’t wanna get up to grab it
4: What do you think about most?
huh… recently? my dog
5: What does your latest text message from someone else say?
“Thanks Har, I got your email” its my group text for my job omg
6: Do you sleep with or without clothes on?
with! i couldn’t sleep naked. i’d be too cold
7: What’s your strangest talent?
i’m good at imitations?
8: Girls… (finish the sentence); Boys… (finish the sentence)
girls RULE boys DROOL
9: Ever had a poem or song written about you?
no but i had a secret admirer once
10: When is the last time you played the air guitar?
last week i was jammin out to some metallica
11: Do you have any strange phobias?
i don’t like when people hold knives or scissors or anything sharp near me and i’m afraid of loud noises
12: Ever stuck a foreign object up your nose?
pencil
13: What’s your religion?
raised christian but i’m personally agnostic
14: If you are outside, what are you most likely doing?
in the hot tub or riding my bike
15: Do you prefer to be behind the camera or in front of it?
BEHIND. BEHIND BEHIND BEHIND
16: Simple but extremely complex. Favorite band?
no. this question can die. no.
17: What was the last lie you told?
uum….hm…. i didnt tell my mom i threw up twice last week? that’s… withholding information.. kind of like a lie, right?
18: Do you believe in karma?
eh.. kind of
19: What does your URL mean?
itS FROM HOMESTUCK. when john goes in the rocket and its like “PCHOOOO”
20: What is your greatest weakness; your greatest strength?
weakness: i trust people too easilystrength: i………..i’m smart.
21: Who is your celebrity crush?
gah i have a lot… currently though it’s tom holland (spiderman!!!!)
22: Have you ever gone skinny dipping?
nope. i want to though!
23: How do you vent your anger?
rant to my friends usually. otherwise, i don’t
24: Do you have a collection of anything?
i used to collect cool tags back in the day. like from clothes and stuff? but i stopped doing that. now i collect post cards and shot glasses
25: Do you prefer talking on the phone or video chatting online?
uh.. neither?? i’m really shy usually.. but i guess if i had to pick i’d say phone. definitely
26: Are you happy with the person you’ve become?
um… if i’m honest, no. but i realize that there’s a lot of things i want to be like. like.. traits i want to have? but the only thing standing in the way of that is myself, so. gotta work on that and stuff.
27: What’s a sound you hate; sound you love?
sound i hate…..anything that’s loud, really? umm….. specifically… motorcycles, though. yeah.a sound i love…. meows from cats!
28: What’s your biggest “what if”?
hmm… “what if i don’t like my job in the future” or i guess like “what if i’m not happy in the future” i’m really afraid of not ending up where i want to end up
29: Do you believe in ghosts? How about aliens?
YES!!!!!!!!!! yes. to both. yep. yes. ive had experiences with both, so
30: Stick your right arm out; what do you touch first? Do the same with your left arm.
right arm: my phoneleft arm: my nightstand
31: Smell the air. What do you smell?
..n.. nothing….? i smell nothing, omg
32: What’s the worst place you have ever been to?
puerto rico. i don’t remember which part though
33: Choose: East Coast or West Coast?
east!
34: Most attractive singer of your opposite gender?
uuuh… i like matty from the 1975 a lot. and eminem. and fetty wap. and brendan urie….. god
35: To you, what is the meaning of life?
do what makes you happy
36: Define Art.
something you create?? yeah
37: Do you believe in luck?
yes. i don’t have any
38: What’s the weather like right now?
cold. night time. rainy
39: What time is it?
3:10am
40: Do you drive? If so, have you ever crashed?
yes and nope
41: What was the last book you read?
wintergirls by laurie halse anderson i’ve read it like 10 times by now
42: Do you like the smell of gasoline?
yes
43: Do you have any nicknames?
so many………. dani, dan, denpy, denby, iza, kuni, deni, dop, dopanopi, dp, click, my last name, dime, daniel, danielson
44: What was the last film you saw?
ROGUE ONE. CRIES
45: What’s the worst injury you’ve ever had?
i split my big toe last year it hurt a lot
46: Have you ever caught a butterfly?
no ):
47: Do you have any obsessions right now?
god yes. overwatch, servamp, bsd, shameless
48: What’s your sexual orientation?
fuck if i know
49: Ever had a rumour spread about you?
nopes
50: Do you believe in magic?
i guess i’d like to, but i have a lot of doubts
51: Do you tend to hold grudges against people who have done you wrong?
no which is both a good and a bad thing
52: What is your astrological sign?
PISCES!!!!
53: Do you save money or spend it?
both
54: What’s the last thing you purchased?
movie ticket…… no, actually it was popcorn
55: Love or lust?
love
56: In a relationship?
non non!
57: How many relationships have you had?
2.5
58: Can you touch your nose with your tongue?
nope!
59: Where were you yesterday?
i went to breakfast with friends & then lunch with fam
60: Is there anything pink within 10 feet of you?
yeah a pair of pink flip flops that i actually don’t like but i left my flip flops at school when i came home and i needed a pair for florida
61: Are you wearing socks right now?
always
62: What’s your favourite animal?
PENGUIn
63: What is your secret weapon to get someone to like you?
i…. uh………….. oh. i try and be funny @ them
64: Where is your best friend?
currently? connecticut
65: Give me your top 5 favourite blogs on Tumblr.
oh god. i’m not tagging them but: faecakes, hextant, pitayas, jaspboner, & akaaschi
66: What is your heritage?
i’m german, french, italian, lithuanian, & irish
67: What were you doing last night at 12AM?
watching the road to el dorado with my cousin
68: What do you think is Satan’s last name?
satan rocks
69: Be honest. Ever gotten yourself off?
yep
70: Are you the kind of friend you would want to have as a friend?
yeah!
71: You are walking down the street on your way to work. There is a dog drowning in the canal on the side of the street. Your boss has told you if you are late one more time you get fired. What do you do?
fuCKING SAVE THE dOG?? FUCK U BOSS IDC
72: You are at the doctor’s office and she has just informed you that you have approximately one month to live. a) Do you tell anyone/everyone you are going to die? b) What do you do with your remaining days? c) Would you be afraid?
a) i probably wouldn’t lmaob) take all my money and go somewhere tropicalc) yes & no i guess?? honestly i can’t answer that. i have no idea
73: You can only have one of these things; trust or love.
trust
74: What’s a song that always makes you happy when you hear it?
The Rain - Calvin Harris
75: What are the last four digits in your cell phone number?
6305
76: In your opinion, what makes a great relationship?
umm.. communication, and going out and DOING THINGS! adventure!!!!
77: How can I win your heart?
be funny. that’s it. that’s all u need to nab me
78: Can insanity bring on more creativity?
yes
79: What is the single best decision you have made in your life so far?
what to do after college
80: What size shoes do you wear?
womens 7/8
81: What would you want to be written on your tombstone?
for the record, i want to be cremated, but if i were to have a tombstone i’d want it to say “here lies dani, she’s having fun as a ghost, don’t worry”
82: What is your favourite word?
um……….. i like “blep” a lot. blep… like when someone just pokes their tongue out of their mouth like BLEP
83: Give me the first thing that comes to mind when you hear the word; heart.
fucking sweethearts why i don’t even like those
84: What is a saying you say a lot?
“i was born ready”
85: What’s the last song you listened to?
The Rain - Calvin Harris. i didn’t turn it off after i looked for the link sO
86: Basic question; what’s your favourite colour/colours?
green!!!!!!!!
87: What is your current desktop picture?
ah its just a default mac one because for some reason whenever i restart my mac it just sets to this one no matter what i have the background as so…. i’m not bothering to change it anymore
88: If you could press a button and make anyone in the world instantaneously explode, who would it be?
uum.. man i don’t.. really know. i probably wouldn’t even be able to push the button, honestly. lmao
89: What would be a question you’d be afraid to tell the truth on?
uh…… good one.. hm. “what’s your darkest secret?”
90: One night you wake up because you heard a noise. You turn on the light to find that you are surrounded by MUMMIES. The mummies aren’t really doing anything, they’re just standing around your bed. What do you do?
probably scream and cower in fear tbh….. then once i realized they’re just standing there i’d probably touch one and see if they did anything then?? talk to them maybe. chill
91: You accidentally eat some radioactive vegetables. They were good, and what’s even cooler is that they endow you with the super-power of your choice! What is that power?
TO FLY!
92: You can re-live any point of time in your life. The time-span can only be a half-hour, though. What half-hour of your past would you like to experience again?
my first imagine dragons concert when they played Tiptoe
93: You can erase any horrible experience from your past. What will it be?
when i did acting?? why did i do that
94: You have the opportunity to sleep with the music-celebrity of your choice. Who would it be?
hmhm mhmh mhmh ok matty from the 1975
95: You just got a free plane ticket to anywhere. You have to depart right now. Where are you gonna go?
australia or bora bora
96: Do you have any relatives in jail?
nope
97: Have you ever thrown up in the car?
nopes
98: Ever been on a plane?
yeah!
99: If the whole world were listening to you right now, what would you say?
uuh hey guys whats up i’m tired and i’m about to sleep hope u guys r having a great 2017 ok byye
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I am going to cry
I’ve found the first hard evidence that my religion has been coopted by... troubling people. They’re bigoted, sexist, misogynistic, homophobic, anti-semitic hateful people. Nationalists. Presumably white.
I feel... sick to my stomach. My heart hurts. I’m afraid. I’m so afraid.
Content warnings for homophobia, misogyny, xenophobia, so much hate.
I’ll admit I started off kind of snippy, but then horror. I didn’t have the will to be snippy any more.
You both like paganism, and pagan.
Stranger: hey you
Stranger: you need to come to terms with reality
You: huh?
Stranger: there is nothing wrong with traditional patriarchal norms
Stranger: nor is there anything wrong with a masculine dominated polytheistic ethos
You: ill disagree with you there
You: probably because youve never been hurt by the patriarchy
You: but these things happen
Stranger: patriarchy will return
Stranger: no but it's okay to hurt people who aren't hetero males
You: unfortunately its never really left
Stranger: they are actually problematic
Stranger: it isn't strong enough
Stranger: we need full patriarchy
Stranger: not just implicit
You: im sorry you feel that way
Stranger: i am sorry but you have no right to tell me what to do
Stranger: I am born superior to you
Stranger: We need to bring back those values
You: thats cute but no
Stranger: you only exist like this because of the law
You: i exist as i choose to exist
Stranger: what if the law made you legally effectively a 3rd class slave?
You: thats all
Stranger: no you don't
Stranger: you have no rights
Stranger: you fucking faggot
Stranger: you owe me respect
Stranger: I am sick of having to live in this stupid monotheist nation
You: respect is earned not owed
Stranger: it is earned only by men
Stranger: never by faggots
You: cute but youre wrong again
Stranger: you're brainwashed by egalitarianism
Stranger: why does equality make sense at all?
Stranger: equality is a bad thing
You: and youre obsessed with your dick
Stranger: no
You: yeah
Stranger: masculinity is about chromosomes and testosterone
You: and your rage boner because you think your rights are being impinged upon
You: women have testosterone
Stranger: not as much
You: everyone has testosterone
Stranger: not even close to as much
Stranger: women are stupid trash
You: tell that to women with pcos
Stranger: look, the idea of love is another stupid idea
Stranger: any man who loves a woman or another man, romantically, is just a tool
Stranger: that shit is shameful garbage
Stranger: we need to bring back the roman value of gravitas
You: sounds like someone is bitter
You: hm
Stranger: i simply want to rule
You: solemnity?
Stranger: i want a new roman empire
You: you dont seem particularly solemn
You: i stand by my observation of the rageboner
Stranger: we need a class of highly selected highly intelligent males who can wield power
Stranger: no sissy talk
Stranger: you're just a fucking faggot who thinks he has any say in the world
You: wrong on two counts
Stranger: protip faggot: you shouldn't
You: You know who liked men?
Stranger: pure patriarchal power will return with brutality
You: Roman men
You: And Hellenic men
Stranger: actually romans considered the men who were penetrated low status
Stranger: and guess what freak
You: More rageboners?
Stranger: by the 3rd century roman culture had come to consider homosexuality a bad thing
You: Sources?
Stranger: the medieval world was roman-esque in culture, largely, and was homophobic
Stranger: homophobia was a step forward in civilization
You: Sources?
Stranger: we must revive romanitas
Stranger: oh my god faggot
Stranger: this shit is basic
Stranger: KNOWLEDGE
Stranger: you fucking FREAK
You: I'm quite familiar with Roman and medieval history
You: I'd like your sources
Stranger: this is incredibly basic, what am I wrong about?
Stranger: please, tell me anything I'm not accurate about
You: So you're saying you have none
Stranger: you're insane
You: No sources?
You: That's unfortunate
Stranger: you don't have sources for telling me caesar got assasinated either
Stranger: you dumb fag
Stranger: it's called common knowledge
Stranger: you're feigning ignorance to spread your aids
You: Not necessarily
Stranger: you filthy faggot freak
You: Maybe you should get the rageboner looked at
You: An erection lasting so long can't be good for you
Stranger: maybe you can go google if it's livy, or suetonius
Stranger: or someone else
You: Priapism is not healthy
You: Maybe it's Livy or Suetonius?
You: That's not a source
Stranger: you're very focused on erections, faggot
Stranger: maybe is maybe
Stranger: you don't fucking know either
You: And you're very focused on men who love men
Stranger: god you fucking pathetic sicko
You: How does it harm you, when a man loves another man?
Stranger: look, homosexuals are fine as long as they do their shit in private and hide it out of shame
Stranger: stay the fuck away from normal society and children
Stranger: and maybe your extra nice relatives won't throw you to the dogs
Stranger: maybe
Stranger: that's returning
Stranger: you'll see
Stranger: you think it's not? you're nuts
You: I'm curious
You: If homosexuality is fine, why bring up 'faggot' as a constant pejorative?
Stranger: I've been part of a nationalist pagan revivalist group since 2015
Stranger: we revive graeco-roman mores and religion
You: Oh?
Stranger: and by the way a more highly romanized form of christianity is acceptable
You: What's it called?
Stranger: but we must actually revive the empire itself
Stranger: i'd rather not tell you, you could easily use that info to find my real name and location
Stranger: it's all very public
Stranger: so no, I can't reveal that
Stranger: just know that the roman revival is coming
You: I have better things to do than try and look up some random person on the internet
Stranger: people think paganism is all viking fans
Stranger: we're here to bring back the romano-greek pantheon
You: Interesting
Stranger: and by the way the men of the iliad would strike you down just for being the sissy that you are
Stranger: sure the archaic classical world accepted homosexuality
You: Unlikely
Stranger: but they later came to revile it
Stranger: by the time of neoplatonism, homosexuality was reviled
You: Proper guest-host relations were very important to the Hellenes
Stranger: yes, as to the Germans
Stranger: common cultural traits
You: It would be a violation of xenia for me to be stricken down for simply existing and asking for hospitality
Stranger: Greeks were still barbaric until the 3rd/4th century
Stranger: Romans held onto some barbaric views allowing pederasty too
You: Incidentally, a massive violation of xenia was the cause of the Trojan war
Stranger: anything but normal male/female relations that can potentially produce offspring
Stranger: is evil
Stranger: and by the way there is no such thing as rape in marriage
Stranger: the woman belongs to the an in a state of marriage, sans abuse or beating
Stranger: my tribe believes strongly in this principle
Stranger: we raise our girls and our members to reject these post-christian ideas
Stranger: post-christian ideas like the individual who wants to divorce is more important than the collective of the married couple
You: Despite the fact that the Romans permitted divorce?
Stranger: but it was greatly limited
Stranger: also the early julian emperors heavily encouraged popular fertility
Stranger: high fecundity is a primary value of my group
Stranger: we see that christianity largely took over due to high fecundity
Stranger: it's up to us to trust in the Dei (Gods)
Stranger: and produce many, many offspring
Stranger: we need to carry forward the classical spirit
Stranger: and none of that included equality for women, foreign scum or perverts
Stranger: sorry but you are just tolerated as long as you lay down and shut up
Stranger: people like you make me deeply sick
Stranger: if your values are post 1800 then you really deserve to be flogged
Stranger: we need strong, primary, ancient values
You: Interesting idea of 'foreign'
Stranger: yes
Stranger: foreigners are 2nd class in any society
Stranger: that's only right
You: Who is a foreigner?
Stranger: non-Americans
Stranger: those who speak no English
You: Anyone can learn English
Stranger: yes
Stranger: they can assimilate
Stranger: but too any foreigners coming in too quickly can dilute a culture
Stranger: look at what happened to Dacia, you ignorant cumbucket
Stranger: educate yourself!
You: What are you afraid of losing?
Stranger: I'm not going down your rabbit hole, cocksucker
Stranger: you know very well why people naturally oppose foreign incursion
Stranger: the same reason the Gauls resisted Rome
You: I'm afraid I can't really agree.
Stranger: these basic universally applicable concepts are easily understood
Stranger: sorry, but you are just stupid or dishonest
Stranger: more likely the latter
You: Ah, not everyone who shares your opinions is stupid and uneducated, I see.
Stranger: they are though
Stranger: everyone outside my faith is stupid or uneducated
Stranger: if a smart person is educated properly, they will see it
Stranger: we have the supreme culture
Stranger: the knowledge
Stranger: the whole legacy of greece, rome and the west is ours
You: Is my father a foreigner?
Stranger: the gods chose us to bring back their holy epire
Stranger: he might be
Stranger: empire*
You: He's an immigrant. He's lived here for over fifty years
You: Speaks English, barely remembers his mother tongue
Stranger: where did he come from?
You: He shed blood for this country
You: Italy
You: He also isn't a US citizen
Stranger: well he is welcoe here especially as a son of the Romans
You: Is he a foreigner?
Stranger: not anymore
Stranger: but he should really study platonism, the pantheon, the classics, etc
Stranger: we need to bring the world kicking and screaming into a neopagan future
Stranger: monotheism out
Stranger: but a fresh off the boat disrespectful entitled foreigner needs to be slaughtered or beaten
Stranger: like the Romans slaughtered Celts
Stranger: we honor that
Stranger: the celts who sacked Rome are fine to kill
Stranger: they have no right to live as foreign invader scu
Stranger: m
You: And the people who come here seeking asylum?
Stranger: fuck that
You: Like my maternal family?
Stranger: if you don't benefit us economically, fuck off
Stranger: oh is your mother jewish?
You: Yes
Stranger: so surprised!
Stranger: not
Stranger: jews are a filthy people who brought the world monotheism
Stranger: that was the original evil action that made them cursed
You: I hope you rot for the rest of eternity in Tartarus. Shame on you for twisting the mos, and for twisting history to suit your hateful wishes. May the gods of the infernal realm make it so.
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