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spop-romanticizes-abuse · 9 months ago
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honestly though, the bisexual representation in spop feels like an afterthought. like glimmer had good chemistry with adora but i doubt that was intentional.
bow showed no signs of being bi except for when he was fanboying over seahawk? which came off more like hero worship, rather than bow actually having feelings for seahawk. (also anything romantic between them would be weird considering how seahawk is portrayed as an adult man)
there's also no proof for mermista being bi except for that one time she blushed when she saw she-ra.
seahawk has an ambiguous ex-boyfriend (which btw they never say that they were exes in the show) who was his dad in the original she-ra.
oh, and there's entrapta who is apparently exclusively attracted to robots and robotkind.
and if i remember correctly, hordak was also supposed to be bi and again, there's no canon confirmation of this.
amazing. this is exactly the kind of representation i, a bi person, would like to see. :D
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trutimeline · 4 years ago
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idislikecispeople, The Most Infamous Dyscourse Blogger: Part 1.0, Rumors
idislikecispeople, also known as many names throughout her time on Tumblr (such as Adele, Kat, Mami, Samantha and Sayaka), was a former Tumblr blogger who became infamous for coining the term "tucute", among many other controversial things she has posted on her blogs. This was supposed to be one, very long masterpost about her, but Tumblr's post editor is a bitch and won't let me do that.
In this post, I'll be debunking or confirming rumors commonly spread about idislikecispeople. The rest of my posts about her will each be dedicated to a specific controversial belief she held or situations she got into. For simplicity's sake, I'll be referring to idislikecispeople as Kat for the rest of this post and future ones.
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Kat Coined the Terms "Truscum" and "Tucute"
Verdict: Partially True
Kat coined the term tucute, but she did not coin the terms truscum or transmedicalist.
Here's a screenshot of Kat's original definition of a tucute:
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What is Tucute?
What does tucute mean?
Tucute is basically just the opposite of truscum, it’s a term and community for trans, nonbinary, and/or non-cis individuals created to separate anti-truscum from truscum and to serve as a safe place from truscum and from cis people, where they believe that being trans requires dysphoria, we do not,where they think that being trans is a medical condition, we do not,and where they deny numerous gender identities on the basis that it “discredits the trans community” we do not.
What are the prerequisites to be a part of the tucute community?
You have to be trans, nonbinary, and/or non-cis in general
You have to accept all pronouns and gender identities
You haveto believe that dysphoria is not necessary to be trans
You have to dislike truscum
You cannot side with truscum or believe in their ideology
You cannot misgender anyone no matter how mad they make you
You cannot be an ableist whatsoever
Did you invent the tucute community? Why?
I indeed did coin the tucute term and community and anyone who says otherwise are creeps who are trying to steal it from me and redefine it for their own nefarious doings. I started this community so anti-truscum could separate themselves from truscum and cis people who are a part of the truscum community, it serves as a safe space from both truscum and cis people.
I’m cis, can I be tucute if I believe in your movement and want to help?
No, you can’t be tucute if you’re cis, you can only be a tucute ally, and you need to be sure to never speak for or over a trans person.
I see a lot of tucuties being just as harmful as truscum, what will you do about it?
There isn’t much I can do to them other than ask them to stop aligning with the tucute community, and of course, that doesn’t mean they will. Also be noted that truscum and cis people will pretend to be tucute just to tarnish the name of the tucute community, so tread lightly, you might be talking to a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
Spread the word, use the tag #tucute and join the army today!
[A digital drawing of Sayaka Miki from Puella Magi Madoka Magica in her magical girl form, with a banner underneath her reading "Tucute 4 U!"]
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Kat Was a Cisgender Woman Who Lied About Being a Transgender Woman
Verdict: False
This rumor primarily comes from a post on Kat's oldest known Tumblr blog, chromaghost, where she claims that she wasn't MTF and only tagged a selfie as such because she thought that transgender people were "cool".
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Anonymous asked: are you a mtf? i seen it tagged on one of your photos.
No lol. I wanted to post it to the tag because transgender people are cool :3
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However, Kat addressed this post and made it clear she very much was a transgender woman multiple times on her later blogs. This claim can also be confirmed with nude photos Kat posted online, which I don't feel comfortable spreading, so you'll just have to trust me on that one. I also don't feel comfortable directly encouraging you to go and dig up those nudes, as most of her nude photos were either taken when she was a minor, spread without her consent and/or were uploaded because people pressured her into posting nudes to "prove" she was a transgender woman.
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Anonymous asked: you bound with ace bandage in one of your selfies. i don't know what to think about you anymore. according to some people you're a 27 year old cis woman scamming us, but you say you're a 22 year old trans woman. i want to trust you but i don't know if i can. i'm sorry.
Rest assured I’m not 27 years old lol. What you’re referring to is a less than graceful ~art piece~ we did (”Playing a Boy” or something) on deviantART when we were 16/17 (?) and really ill-informed. I ask you to not take that as how I stand currently – as I have learned so much more since, and I have a penis and I was designated male at birth because of it (feel free to purchase a passcode to our nsfw blog to see for yourself). At the time we were developing breast tissue but still had to appear as a ‘boy.’ Don’t bind with Ace bandages, kids, it can damage your rib cage, something we didn’t know at the time.
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[A picture of two prescriptions, estradiol and spironolactone, both prescribed to Adele Sheffield.]
grandtran still gonna think I photoshopped it or what
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Anonymous asked: In other words, you aren't gonna cough up the pics because you know you can't fake that shit because you're actually cis. Cool. BTW why do you keep changing your story about the blog, and if the blog was run by you when you were in denial about being trans because of self hate, why were the pics tagged mtf and you were constantly saying trans people were cool?
Yeah I’m not gonna do something for y’all and get nothing in return except more doubt from you, you see how one sided that kind of request is? Also its technically considered sexual harassment, just because its on the internet, you’re a coward (whats your username btw?), and you think I’m cis and you want me to prove time and time again to you that I’m dmab doesn’t justify sexually soliciting someone when they’re not comfortable in being solicited – for free no less.
At first I genuinely had no memory of that blog, it was only active for all of 2 months and for some reason I moved onto a new email and new tumblr, and I haven’t the foggiest why. As for the whole “me claiming to not be ~mtf~” I don’t have any memories from that time, I can only assume it was a lot of dysphoria fueled self-hatred and wanting to be seen/pass as a cis girl lesbian.
If you’re really gonna solicit nudes from a trans woman (a second time) as they do sex work to try and stay on their feet without offering anything in return just so your transmisogynistic ass can get off to trying to tell me my dick is fake isn’t classy at all. I perish the thought of what you’re parents would think of this behavior from you. But yeah, feel free to send some money to my paypal so I can get the gender markers on my records changed because that’s gonna cost a lot apparently, and I’ll definitely send you the dick pics you want. :)
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[A picture of a a hospital bracelet on Kat's wrist. The patient's name is Adele Sheffield and her sex is labeled as "M".]
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Kat Lied About Having Diabetes To Get Money From Tumblr Users
Verdict: False
This doesn't need much commentary from me, just view the screenshots below.
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To the people who keep harping on me buying a $15 video game for my mental health 7 MONTHS ago “with my donation money,” well, here you go, some proof, links and screenshots provided
So for everyone spreading misinformation about me spending $15 on a video game for my mental health, here’s a full list of reasons why there is no way, shape, or form I spent my paypal money on it:
Yes, I spent $15 of my own money after selling one of my possessions, not denying it:
[A screenshot of a Tumblr post by Kat where she shows off a copy of Fall Out: New Vegas, marked with a price of $14.99. The date of the post is marked as July 21, 2014 at 06:28.39 PM.]
Be sure to look at the date, July 21st, 2014 6:28 PM. Now lets look at my first donation post asking for help:
[A screenshot of a Tumblr post by Kat where she asks for donations to be able to afford insulin because she has no insurance. The date of the post is marked as July 20, 2014 at 08:14.00 PM.]
Hmm, one day before the purchase of said game, July 20th 2014 at 8:14 PM. Now, I’ve never heard of a video game store — much less a non-chain video game store accepting payment for video games in the form of virtual Amazon gift cards, have you? Oh, but you’re gonna say, “well you bought the game with your paypal donations anyway!” Well, here’s exhibit C:
[Another screenshot of a separate post made by Kat where she is also asking for donations to be able to afford insulin. The date of the post is marked as July 23, 2014 at 12:27.46 PM.]
Again, looking at the date of this posting which is the original donations post, you can see it was posted on July 23rd, 2014 at 12:27 PM, a full 2 days after I had bought the game. Now, if there’s no way for me to use Amazon gift cards for a real life video game store, then how can I go back in time a minimum of 2 full days to give past me $15 to buy said game, hm? This isn’t even accounting for the fact that I didn’t even have my own bank account associated with it until over a week later, and it surely doesn’t account for the fact that it takes up to 5 days to transfer from paypal to your bank account. All the dates are linked to the original unedited posts so you can see for yourself, and for added measure my first deposit was on August 14th, 2014:
[A screenshot of a deposit made by Kat. The date is marked as 08/14/14.]
Oh but yeah, anti-sjs, truscum, and the like took damniwishidthoughtofabettername’s postthey used to gaslight us with misinformation and you all bought it. Tell me how I could misuse donations that I could not use outside of Amazon and money I didn’t even start receiving until a full two days later, let alone the fact that there’s no way I could have transferred said money and used it two days prior as of the date of the paypal donations post.
I hope some of y’all could reblog this and get the word out, I’m sick and tired of people buying into that misinformation that person did solely to gaslight me as a means to try and disrupt my donations drive.
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[A selfie of Kat holding up a vial of Novolin to the camera.]
Hey anon, I don’t feel comfy giving you my receipts (because doxxing is a thing) but here you go, a selfie with my most recent insulin purchase. 👽
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Anonymous asked: Getting desperate for money again I see. How is your fake diabetes lately. I bet your blood sugar is like 800 this time and you're still able to be alive somehow.
You got me, I’m ~totally faking~
[A selfie of Kat. In the background several items used by diabetics are seen such as insulin syringes, glucose tablets, a blood sugar tester and test strips.]
[A picture that gives us a closer look at the background of the previous selfie.]
[A selfie of Kat holding up two vials, one of Lantus and the other of Humalog.]
Gee, must be one dedicated faker, right? To have hundreds of dollars of insulin equipment and insulin itself. Hmmm… Insulin syringes, glucose tablets, a blood sugar tester and test strips.. oh and insulin, hmmmm….
Oh and because you didn’t learn from last time you don’t die instantly when your blood sugar goes over 600 lol, something anyone who studies endocrinology can tell you, and I would know, being a diabetic, having to be hospitalized numerous times for ketoacidosis where the blood sugar has been too high for too long. Things you clearly do not know and you’re just jumping on the disableist bandwagon. I have an idea of who you are anyway, just doing this for future reference.
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go-diane-winchester · 6 years ago
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How can Wincest fans be against the idea of Dean being bisexual even though they pair him with Sam?  They are both men after all.
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@sage-speight-trickster-jr​  Thank you very much for going through all the trouble of unblocking me just to ask this question.  Although, I have answered the question before, it seems that the answer was not circulated amongst the destiel shippers and the destihellers.  If you could kindly facilitate for me, I would appreciate that, because it would mean not having to answer the question again in the future.  I would also like to be very thorough in this answer so please bear with me. 
Just to clarify, I am not a Wincest fan, however as sage pointed out, I approve of it and that is because they haven't [to my knowledge] shown any form of aggression and violent intent towards my boys or even Misha for that matter.  I have been told by hellers that ''evil bibros'' threaten Misha, but when asked for receipts, the claimants disappear.  It happens every time like clockwork.     
Jensen Ackles, that ''uptight homophobe'' who hates anything destiel-related, was very eloquent about Wincest, when he was asked about it years ago: 
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Jensen might have not realized this but he understands slash fiction more than he thinks.  Slash fiction, like bara etc, fall under the category of fan fiction.  Slash is a more intimate form of fan fiction because it has to do with the slash fan rather than the pairing.  There are personal factors that destiel fans don’t consider.  These factors were second nature to Wincest fans, because Wincest is a classic slash ship, and it followed the rules of classic slash.  What's more, no external person interfered with this ship and it therefore remained true to itself.  And Jensen, somehow, just understood these factors.  Wincest fans and Jensen are both in agreement as to what Wincest is supposed to be.  It is fiction.  It is a hot fantasy.  As Jensen said, Wincest fans don't think Dean and Sam are gay.  This is where the factors come into play and why destiel shippers get it wrong.
Slash is born from love
In order to ship a pairing, you have to like both people in the pairing.  Wincest fans understand that not everyone is going to think Sam and Dean are a sexual turn-on.  It might shock some people to realize, that there is someone in the world, who thinks Jensen, for example, is an ugly pig-of-a-face.  He might be sexually offputting to this person, for some reason.  So a person like this won't ship Jensen with anyone.  Why would you ship someone who doesn't turn you on?  Sometimes one of the pairing might look like a relative, or a former sexual harasser, or an enemy the shipper hates from where she works.  It is therefore, understandable, that the shipper will not have a single sexual thought about that guy.   It happens. 
If someone has that opinion about Jared for example, they wont like Wincest, J2, Mishalecki, Sastiel, Sabriel, Sevin or any other pairing Jared and Sam are a part of.  Sometimes, the shipper might like one person too much and not care about anyone else.  Nobody is good enough for her boy, but since slash fiction makes her happy, she slashes him with himself.  I have seen Jensen, Jason Teague, Alec and Dean Winchester all slashed in very imaginative pairings.  That is like a four-cheese pizza for someone who is crazy about fromage, and a puke-fest for someone who hates cheese.  
There might be other reasons why a slash fan wont be attracted be a guy.  She might not like what she considers to be Jensen's grumpy unfriendliness.  Maybe she just doesn't like Jared's long, floppy hair.  All the above apply to Misha as well.  They may not like his looks, his verbosity, the way he dresses.  The reasons are varied.  Not everyone is going to be attracted to the same guys.  If one part of the pairing is blergh! to the shipper, the shipper is not going to like the pairing.  Wincest fans recognize that everyone watches the show for different reasons.  Some fans watch the show for the paranormal element, not to ogle the boys and their epic chemistry.   
So wincest shippers don't force their ship on others.  I have been approached by fans who said they entered Supernatural via the destiel door, because the hellers seem to recruit shippers, but when they watched the show, they found Sam and Dean had more appealing and stronger chemistry and that Destiel didn't seem to cause a blip in the radar.  They aren't right.  They aren't wrong.  They are merely giving their opinion.  Wincest fans understand slash fiction.  They understand that slash is based on  love for both characters.  That is the first and foremost requirement.  If the shipper don't love either of the boys, the ship is not happening.  Some fans like Dean and Sam and Cas, and so we have Wincestial.  This is what Wincest shippers understand and destiel shippers don't.
Slash is a personal expression of love. 
You can’t force it on anyone.  Destiel won’t be for everyone because some people might not like Dean for some reason.  Or they might not like Cas.  In either of the scenarios, Destiel will be an offputting thing.  They wont like destiel, because it doesn't turn them on.  Wincest fans understand that some people may not find wincest appealing, not because of the fraternal thing but because of their own opinion on the characters.  Some fans might think that Dean is too smothering and possessive of Sam.  Some fans might think that Sam is too indifferent and ungrateful of Dean.  Neither are wrong in their opinions.  That is how they interpret the story.  If a fan has these thoughts and just cant stand one of the brothers, they won't like Wincest.  This is the most common sense thing about slash fiction that Destiel fans don't seem to understand.
Slash is unique and changes from person to person.
Even amongst the wincest fans, how they love wincest is different.  Some of them enthusiastically slash Smith and Wesson, so they can bypass the incestual [a word I learned from Jensen] thing and still have their boys.  Some fans go through all the trouble of writing a story where [for example] John kills Azazel and wants his boys off the road and in a home, only to realize that Sam was one of Azazel's psychic kids and not his own child.  And Dean has to take Sam and escape so Gordon and other hunters can't find Sam.  Of course, the entire story is written just to facilitate the idea that Sam and Dean are not brothers and therefore can fall in love. 
Some fans don't care about dealing with the brother thing, and just barrel on through the story with terrific indifference.  The point is that, because they have such scattered points of views on what their ideal Wincest scenario is, they don't force the idea on others, especially the studio.  They understand that what is appealing to one wincest fan is not going to be appealing to another.  They understand that SPN cant please everyone.  So they ask for nothing.  And in an individual's fantasies, Dean and Sam can swing whichever way the slash fan wants.  
Fantasy is not about realism.  It is escapist.
Hence, the use of the word fantasy.  In fact, Jensen's analysis of Wincest ties in, with my definition of slash fiction, which is: 
It is an escapist, fantastical platform for female sexual expression, by women for women, about male subjects in a romantic setting.
I understand there are other definitions, but this one corresponds with straight and bi women.  I have seen destiel fans scoff at this definition but not give me a reason why.  The ABO trope and mpreg are proof of this.  Sam and Dean are not part of a wolf pack.  That is unrealistic.  But it is a fun little fantasy, for those who like that sort of thing.  Sometimes they aren't even men.  They get gender swapped for fun, by people who like gender swapping. 
Wincest fans don't disrespect canon. If its canon, they [like any other levelheaded fan] will respect it.  I count some destiel fans [not destihellers] amongst the levelheaded fans.  Wincest fans don't clash with canon or write reams of meta about how the canon should be interpreted.  They understand that subtext differs according to an individual's wants, desires and prejudices.  You can't convince others that there is subtext in a particular scene.  They have to find it themselves.  Of course, you can present your subtext, but tagging it in the main tags is equal to forcing the subtext on other people.  And that is wrong.   I get too many complaints about that.
Remember, if you present your subtext, meta and headcanon like it is fact, you are misleading people.  If someone disagrees with you because you are presenting the aforementioned as fact, it is not because they hate your ship.  It is because you are saying something that is based purely on your opinion, and some spectacularly gullible and horny young person is going to harass Jensen with this.  Take for example, the Dr Sexy question.  It was born as a headcanon.  Because nobody questioned it, one impressionable creature thought that it has to be the gospel truth.  I mean, no one was cross-examining the points put forward.  The only people complaining were those ''homophobic'' bibros who found it in the main tags.
This kid probably thought ''aha, I got him now'' when she asked the question to Jensen.  Why do you need to ''get'' him?  Why does he have to approve of your opinion?  If the headcanon had been opened to interpretation, that ignorant kid would have never made a fool of herself and her ship.  Jensen would not have to point out that a male fan of another man doesn't necessarily want to sleep with him.  This is common sense, but it escaped the kid.  I wager that some heller reading the question directed to me probably said ''aha, sage has got her now''.  I wonder if they will stick around to read the whole answer.  Remember, if you are presenting your subtext to like-minded people and only getting applaud, it doesn't give credulity to the subtext.   
According to canon, Dean says to Hendrickson ''You kinky SOB, we don't swing that way'' referring to both him and Sam.  Now, it would be fun to argue that this statement is presumptuousness on Dean's part, but we keep that fun argument to ourselves.  In fact, I did a post on that same topic, purely for fun, because I came across the topic.  Even then, I pointed out that it is a fun little discourse, and not a topic to harass Jared with.  After all, he didn't write the post.  We don't tweet the CW execs and demand to know why Sam doesn't have a boyfriend yet, preferably someone who is part of our fanon ship. 
We also don't violate Jared's personal space at cons, with entitled questions regarding Sam's sexuality because both Jared and Jensen have explicitly asked that the cons should be family-friendly and therefore shipping and sexuality questions should not be asked.  They also don't want to give the impression that SPN is about ships.  They are not queer baiting at all, just doing their jobs with honesty.  Wincest fans love the boys and acknowledge that forcing Wincest will make the boy uncomfortable.   Not only is it ethically wrong to force something sexual on other people, especially two friends, because it might hurt that friendship.  It  will definitely make the boys hate them and they don't want that. 
That is one big reason, I respect the Wincest fans.  They don't sexually violate the boys with their fantasies.  And yes they do consider asking prying questions about shipping to Jensen and forcing him to sign NSFW art at autos as a form of sexual violation.  A woman would be protected from this, but because Jensen is a man,[a straight, white one no less], who cares about his dignity, right?  If he speaks up for himself, he's a homophobe.  And before you call me a white racist for saying that, understand that I am a Muslim South African of Indian descent. 
Wincest fans don't use representation as an excuse for badgering the boys or the cast and crew.  I know of fans [both Wincest and neutral] who are LGBT and who resent that the LGBT are being used as a means to harass Jensen into accepting a fanon ship.  We all agree that the LGBT is being used as an excuse.  It always surprises me how Jensen and the Wincest fans, get each other.  They both agree on what Wincest is. Wincest fans understand that wincest was born in their fantasies. Jensen agrees with that.  Wincest fans agree that the boys are straight in canon.  Jensen agrees with that.  There is an understanding between the leads and their fans.  An understanding between the fan and No. 5 on the call sheet, doesn't mean destiel is going to be canon.
Wincest fans won't demand canon wincest for the following reasons:
According to canon, the boys are straight.  Wincest fans value the text, over the subtext.  They don't look at shirt colors, blocking, parallels etc.  If the character says he is straight, forcing the writers to change that, to feed you kink, is wrong.  So the wincest fans don't do that.  They just enjoy how sexy Dean and Sam [Jared and Jensen] are together and use them as inspiration for an awesome love story.  They understand that interpretation changes from person to person.  Not everyone is going to see things the same way.  
It might shock you to know that some wincest fans are actually against incest and find the idea of it being endorsed on screen unethical.  It may not bother Jensen [he like Game of Thrones after all] but it sure as heck bothers some of his wincest fans.  Its safe as a fantasy, but they would prefer not to see that ethical tug of war happen on screen. 
The show can't fulfill every subsection's fantasy.  There are many fantasies flying around in fandom, and pleasing everyone is not feasible Wincest fans are aware of that because it is common sense.  That is why some people consider hellers to be selfish.  They only care about their fantasy and not the integrity and longevity of the show.  Why would a business please one subsection and put off everyone else.  It is best to remain neutral.  That makes good business sense.  SPN has done that and lasted 14 years.  So they wont change it now.  Just think about that.  If it aint broke, don't fix it.  Wincest fans understand that some people like shipping, some don't but keep their opinions to themselves whilst other hate it and are vocal about their disgust.  Everyone likes Sam and Dean for different reasons.  Its not always sexual.  One fan said she [I think it was a she] wanted Sam and Dean to be her big brothers so that they could go to her school and beat up all the bullies who beat her up.  Side note:  the institution of schooling should be banned.  It is a social torture device.
Wincest fans don't treat the boys like sex toys.  They don't ask for intimate poses during photo ops.  They treat their boys with respect.  And I think the relationship has become reciprocal between the boys and their Wincest fans.  It is a 14 year marriage that has never had much upheaval because it is not a relationship based on coercion.  Jensen doesn't shoot the wincest fans down for their fantasies, and recently even said I love you to Sam in canon.  Dean has canonically said I love you only twice: once to Mary, but that was also coupled with I hate you.  Wincest fans are not screeching at CW about it.  They enjoyed the moment and moved on. 
This is a nice segue into headcanons.  Headcanons are fun if you treat them as such, but you need to understand that every headcanon is opinion-based and can be argued away.  Even Wincest ones.  Wincest fans don't use their headcanons that they cooked up in their minds, as a pro-Wincest argument for the boys to fight against.  That would be like saying ''how can you not agree with the thoughts in my head''.  One headcanon that many Destiel fans have, is that destiel is canon, because of the scrapped I love you in the Crypt episode.  They don't seem to understand that the fact that Jensen forcefully scrapped the line, actually proves the opposite.  
Jensen doesn't want canon destiel.  He removed the line without any consultation with writers.  But he didn't remove the I love line in the new episode, which was directed at Sam.  Why is that?  Why didn't Jensen scrap that line?  Maybe it has to do with the fact that, when Destiel fans threaten to kill him, wincest fans try to fight them off and protect Jensen.  It has nothing to do with canon or fanon.  It has to do with your overall entitled behavior.  Jensen would prefer not to hear about shipping.  He has no real emotional stake is shipping.  His opinion on ships is basely purely on how the shippers behave.  And Wincest shippers don't behave aggressively. 
The difference between how Jensen handles the wincest fans and how Misha handles the destiel fans is quite stark.  Jensen, even in the above monologue about wincest, does not encourage Wincest fans.  However, whilst letting them know his opinion on shipping, he doesn't discourage them either opting to say  ''But that is why its called fiction''.  Jensen is extremely neutral, diplomatic and I have to say, extremely intelligent.  Its his way of telling the fans ''have your fun, but don't ask me about it''.  The wincest fans listened and have kept their fantasies and headcanons to themselves for 14 years.  They didn't interpret his words on a direct instruction to them.  He said it.  They did it.  That's it.   
Misha does the complete opposite.  He was instructed not to tell anyone about the scrapped line because the crew knows what the destiel fans are like.  Misha still made sure he said it, even telling people ''I am not supposed to tell you this''.  Because he didn't respect an instruction given to him, Jensen got ambushed and abused for it online.  Misha did that to keep his destiel audience, but he alienated everyone else.  Not a smart person, because he is putting off potential fans of his who might not like shipping.  
He doesn't realize that not every fan likes slash fiction and that not everyone is watching Supernatural for slash reasons.  They just like the show as is.  It also shows how little he cares for his co-worker's well being because he didn't think twice before throwing Jensen under the bus.  Misha is one reason, people don't like Destiel.  They don't like the guy that plays Cas.  There may be other factors.  But that one stands out the most. I know that there was repetitiveness in this post, but I hope it answers the question as thoroughly as possible.   
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grosshole · 4 years ago
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Once again, you missed the point of my post. Children, anyone under the age of 18, should not be on the internet unsupervised. That has been my entire argument since the very beginning.
Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr and Reddit were all adult spaces originally, and there is literallyno reason for anyone under 18 to be using them. You are not using them as a way to promote a business. You can educate yourself with other resources like academics journals both digital and physical outside of social media. You can explore your sexuality via books from your local library. There are also many educational tv programs to enjoy. That is how I did it. I learned about my sexuality/gender and psychological disorders from books at the library. I learned escaped the shitty aspect of my childhood through reading, no interest required.
You will not die without access to the internet. You do not need it to survive.
These sites may not have age restrictions (any website without a paywall is not age restricted and therefore cannot keep children off of them. The fact that the pronhub jingle is a meme amongst teens is proof of this) but that doesn't make them any less of an adult websites based upon the content that was originally posted there. 11 years ago, tumblr was primarily porn and superwholock. I know. I was there.
I have been on tumblr for almost 12 years now and I remember when just seeing someone post their age as anything under 18 in their bio meant immediately blocking them and warning all other tumbler users of them to continue the block chain. It was common knowledge that tumblr was not for kids and we needed to block them from accessing all content to drive them off of the site.
As adults, it is our responsibility to push youth away from adult content on the internet as best as we can, but that does not mean we have to censor/limit ourselves to make child friendly spaces on website that are geared towards us. Any website that is open to a large age range is automatically an adult site and it is the responsibility of the parent to protect their child and keep them from accessing it. If you are a teen with unlimited and unsupervised internet access, aware of content that makes you uncomfortable, it is your responsibility it avoid it. If you are unable to do this on your own, ask for parental supervision to make sure you are not seeing anything you dislike or upsets you. You wanted to be treated like an adult without being supervised for your own safety, then take your safety in your own hands.
And even children websites, like neopets, the Harry Potter websites, and YouTube kids are not 100% safe for children either. Predatory adults will be there looking for an opportunity to harm a child in any way they can. No amount of arguing about this will stop that because they literally do not care.
The responsibility is upon the parents first and then the youth insisting they have to have social media access while underage, responsibility to byproduct said children.
I feel sorry for the future children of antis. Neglecting to monitor their child's internet/media consumption and expecting strangers to censor themselves to cater to children just as they expect adult strangers to cater to them now.
I mean, the fact that young antis are on the internet/social media in the first place proves they are not receiving proper parental guidance and will lack the skills necessary to protect their future children from adult content.
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