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Character Relations Thoughts/Theories

Part 1 - Character Relations

(Wrote everything down for reference from looking around, as I didn't have everything unlocked myself and had trouble finding images anywhere. Also, when I say "Unknown connection" that just is to symbolize the ? relations, not that we literally don't know, as we do know some answers to those, like Arthur Byer's connection to Hastur is likely them being the same person in a sense in game 6.)

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Game 0

------------------------------------------------------------------------------Ada

Employee to Father Duke

“Colleagues” with Lorraine (who Emily “advised”)

Daughter to Dr. Mesmer

Cooperated with Orpheus

Couple with Emil

Unknown connection to Helena

Emil

Unknown connection to “Roy”

Couple with Ada

Helena

“Saved” Galatea, who has affection for Helana

Daughter to John Adams

Student to Sullivan, who hired by John Adams

Sullivan is “pen pals” with Orpheus

Unknown connection to “Roy” and Ada

Galatea

has “affection” for Helena

employed to Orpheus

Orpheus?

Unknown connection to Roy, who has an unknown connection to Emil

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Game 2

------------------------------------------------------------------------------Jack

Interviewed by Keigan

“Murdered” Keigan

Sheriff “doubts” him

Student of James Whistler

Philip

Siblings with Christina

“Mistook” Belinda as Christina

Christine and Belinda “replaced”?

“Appreciates” Jack

Keigan

“Interviewed” Jack who “murdered” her

Siblings with Harold Nicholas Keogh

Aunt and Niece to Bessie

“Murdered” Dr. Mesmer

Edmund Reed, Sheriff

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Game 3 (Andrew/Antonio/Sangria/Polun)

------------------------------------------------------------------------------Sangria

“Lady”

Andrew

“Buried” Sangria, Antonio, and Polun

“Employed” to Percy, who was “resurrected” by Burke

“Backstabbed” Mr. Marshall

Antonio

“Vigilant” of Sangria and Andrew, who “buried” Antonio

“Affection” for Polun

“Avoiding” Princess, who “confined” Antonio

“Fantasizing” about “Demon”

Polun

“Jealous” of “Catherine”

“Invited” by Max

Antonio has “affection” for Polun

“Buried” by Andrew

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Game 3 (Aesop/Victor/Annie/Ganji)

------------------------------------------------------------------------------Annie

Daughter to Wendy Lester

“Murdered” by Aesop

Aesop

“Foster son” to Jerry Carl

“Murdered” Annie and Ganji

“Targeted” Victor

Ganji

“Dominated” by Lord Elgin, who Ganji is “disgusted” with

“Murdered” by Aesop

Victor

“Acquaintances” with Wick

“Targeted” by Aesop

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Game 4

------------------------------------------------------------------------------Kreacher

He “betrayed” Emma, who “hates” him

He abused Robbie and Dolores

Worked for Father Duke

“Disapproves” Freddy, who “hates” Kreacher

“Despises” Emily

“Hates” Mr. Macallan

Emma

“Helped” by Orpheus

Daughter to Martha Remington and Leo

Sought help from Emily, who “sympathized” with Emma

“Hates” Father Duke, who “abused” her

“Hates” Freddy

“Hates” Kreacher, who “betrayed” her

Freddy

“Cooperated” with Dr. Mesmer

“Investigating” Emily

“Lovers” with Martha Remington

“Deceived” Leo, who “hates” him

Emma “hates” him

“Hostile” to Kreacher, who is “hostile” to him

Emily

Martha Remington was a “medical accident”

“Advised” Lorraine Miller

“Despises” Kreacher

“Sympathizes” with Emma, who “sought help” from her

“Investigated” by Freddy

Leo

Married Martha Remington, father to Emma

“Hates” Father Duke

“Hates” Freddy, who “deceived” him

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Game 5

------------------------------------------------------------------------------Vera

Sister to Vera Nair

“Influenced” Kevin

“Ex-collaborator” with Jose

“Vigilant” of Edgar

“Hostile” to Patricia, who “sacrificed” her

Kevin

“Mourning” Angelina, daughter of Cherokee Chietain

“Guilt” towards Cherokee Chieftan (about daughter and lying), who is “Friendly” to Kevin

“Influenced” by Vera and Jose

“Friendly” to Edgar

“Protective” of Patricia

Patricia

Foster daughter to Mary

“Sacrificed” Vera, who was “hostile” to Patricia

Jose, “ex-collaborator with Vera, is “hostile” to Patricia

“Sacrificed” Edgar

“Faith” in Papa Legba, who has “contracted” Patricia

“Protected” by Kevin

Edgar

“Friendly” to Kevin

Ella is his sibling

“Influenced by” Jose

Vera is “vigilant” with him

Sarai was his tutor, who he “murdered”

“Sacrificed” by Patricia

Jose

Son of “Old Baden”

Old Baden “traded” with Lord Melbourne

Lord Melbourne is the “sponsor” of Sam Bourbon

“Drinking buddies” with Sam Bourbon

“Searched” for Wu Chang (umbrella)

“Ex-collaborator” with Vera

“Influenced” Edgar

“Hostile” to Patricia

“Influenced” Kevin

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Game 6a

------------------------------------------------------------------------------Grace

Unknown connection to Arthur Byers and Fiona

Hastur

Unknown connection to Arthur Byers and Yidhra

Yidhra

Unknown connection to Darren, Fiona, and Hastur

Fiona

“Vigilant” of Arthur Byers, who “charmed” Fiona

Unknown connection to Yidhra

Commissioned by Volcker Berglund, brother of Darren Berglund

Investigating Luchino, who “deceived” Fiona

Unknown connection to Grace

Luchino

“Deceived” Fiona, who is investigating Luchino

Colleagues with Duquein Thompson

Unknown connection to Arthur Byers

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Game 6b

------------------------------------------------------------------------------Luchino

Eli “vigilant” of Luchino

Unknown connection to Demi

Demi

Unknown connection to Luchino

“Step siblings” to Sam Bourbon

Unknown connection to Eli

“Framed” Martha, who is “Scheming” against (?) Demi

Unknown connection To Miles, Spouse to Michiko, who Martha “deceived”

Michiko

Unknown connection to Eugene

Unknown connection to Martha, who “deceived” Miles

Miles’ “spouse”

Miles Donald

Martha Behamfil

Unknown connection to Michiko, who is the Spouse of Miles

“Deceived” Miles, who has an unknown connection to Demi

“Scheming” against (?) Demi, who “framed” Martha

Apprentice to Evelyn Mora

Eli

Unknown connection to Luchino

“Engaged” to Gertrude Vandergaw

Unknown connection to Demi

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Game 8

------------------------------------------------------------------------------Violetta

“Tolerates” Joker, who is “hostile” to Violetta

“Acquired” by Bernard

“Influenced” Margaretha

Murro and Mike “sympathize” with Violetta

Employed by Max

“Rescued” by Tracy

Margaretha

“Influenced” Violetta

Eugene Hayward and Marjorie Hayward are her Uncle and Aunt

“Fears” Mike, who is “disgusted” by Margaretha

Murro is “vigilant” of Margaretha

“Relies” on Sergi, who “controls” Margaretha

Joker “murdered” Sergi, who has an unknown connection/arrow to Joker

“Exploited” Joker, who “adores” Margaretha

Joker

“Adores” Margaretha, who “exploited” Joker

Arthur Russel “investigated” Margaretha and Joker

Arthur Russel “commissioned” Mike, who “doubts” Joker

“Hostile” to Violetta

Son of Gwynplaine and Thea

Mike

“Sympathizes” with Violetta

“Disgusted” by Margaretha, who “fears” Mike

“Adopted” by Bernard Morton Jr, Uncle of Murro Morton

“Assisted” in Murro’s escape

Arthur Russel is “pursuing” Murro, who “trusts” Mike

“Employed” by Arthur Russel

Arthur is “investigating” Joker

Murro

“Vigilant” of Joker and Margaretha

“Sympathizes” with Violetta

Nephew of Bernard Morton Jr., who “adopted” Mike

“Trusts” Mike, who “assisted in his escape”

Arthur Russel “commissioned” Mike and is Naib’s employer, who “murdered” Murro

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Game 9

------------------------------------------------------------------------------Servais

Apprentice to John who Servais “murdered”

“Doubted” by Kurt and Naib, who “murdered” Servais

“Searched” for Murro

William “witnessed” Servais murder John

William

“Witnessed” Servais murder John

Kurt showed William “kindness”

“Trusts” Naib, who “exploited” William

“Punished” by Bane

Bane

“Employed” by Mr. and Mrs. DeRoss

“Punished” Naib and William

“Colleague” with Burke

“Companion” to Black Nose

Kurt

“Doubted” Servais

“Murdered” by Naib

“Searched” for Murro

“Cared for” by Lorraine, employee of Father Duke, who “disapproved” of Kurt

“Kind” to WIlliam

Naib

Murdered Servais, Kurt, and Murro

“Doubted” by Servais

Employed to Arthur Russel

“Punished” by Bane

“Exploited” William, who “trusted” Naib

(Murro)

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Game 10

------------------------------------------------------------------------------Luca

Son of Herman Balsa

“Malice” to Charles

“Alert” against Tracy, who is also “alert” with him

Student of Alva

Tracy

“Alert” against Luca, who is also “alert” with her

“Unusually trusted” by Charles

“Curious” of Bonbon

Being “surveyed” (watched) by Burke and Bonbon

Daughter of Irene Reznik and Mark Reznik, who is “curious” of Carl Taplin, who watched (surveillance) Mark

Charles (sorry I didn't have his character relations page)

Bonbon

“Invented” by Burke, who’s employed to Mr. and Mrs. DeRoss

Watching Tracy, who is “curious” of Bonbon

Burke

“Invented” Bonbon,

Employed by Mr. and Mrs. DeRoss

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Game ? (maybe 11?)

------------------------------------------------------------------------------Alva

“Close friends” with Herman Balsa, who was a student of Professor Kaiser with Alva

Herman is the father of Luca, who is Alva’s student

“Shares the same faith” as Ann

Luca (same as in Game 10)

Ann

“Shares the same faith” as Alva

Relative of Laura

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Final Game

------------------------------------------------------------------------------Orpheus

“Cautious” of Melly, who’s “cautious” of Orpheus

Unknown connection to Sam and Frederick

“Investigating” Alice, who “suspects” Orpehus

Unknown connection to Norton, Burke, and Bane

Mary

Unknown connection to Mary Kreiburg

Mary Kreiburg is a “distant relative” of Frederick

Amalia Kreiburg is the mother of Frederick, who is also a “distant relative” of Mary Kreiburg

Mary Kreiburg’s spouse is Manus de Capet

Frederick

Son of Amalia Kreiburg, who is distant relatives to Mary Kreiburg (as is Frederick)

Unknown connection to Orpheus

Alice “doubts” Frederick

Alice

“Suspects” Orpheus, who is “investigating” Alice

“Curious” about Melly, who is “curious” about Alice

“Defect” from(?) Lord Melbourne

“Vigilant” of Norton

Unknown connection to Burke, Bane, and Evelyn

“Doubts” Frederick

Melly

“Cautious” of Orpheus, who’s also cautious of Melly

“Curious” about Alice, who’s also curious of Melly

“Vigilant” of Norton

Unknown connection to Sam Bourbon

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Not Yet Confirmed (what game they're in)

------------------------------------------------------------------------------Qi Shiyi (maybe game 1, if she brings Wu's umbrella, it needs to be at the manor before Jose aka game 5)

“Close Friend” of Tang Si

Evelyn Mora

Mentor to Martha

Lily (maybe game 1 or a game close to final?)

Matthias

Florain

Robbie

Joseph (maybe Final Game?)

Brother to Claude

Percy

Employer to Andrew

Ithaqua (maybe game 6 with Fiona/Hastur?)

Ivy

Jeffrey (maybe game 3 with Antonio/Andrew?)

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Part 2 - Points of Interest

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"Roy", who is mentioned with the game 0 group and has some type of connections between them and Helena, Emil, and Orpheus/Novelist

Sullivan's "pen pal" is confirmed to be "Novelist" aka Orpheus

Philip involved in game 2

"Mistook" Belinda as Christina, and whatever is meant by "Replaced" (between Christina and Belinda)

Keigan "murdered" Dr. Mesmer (that name is listed in the relations as being Ada's father

Andrew "buried" Sangria, Antonio, and Polun

Polun's connection to "Max" who "invited" Polun

Emma was "helped" by Orpheus

Patricia "sacrificed" only Vera and Edgar

Jose was "drinking buddies" with Sam, who is "sponsored" by Lord Melbourne/Vilhelm

Grace and Yidhra are involved in game 6a with Hastur, Fiona, and Luchino

Luchino "deceived" Fiona

Demi "framed" Martha, who was "scheming" against Demi

Demi is "step siblings" with Sam (shared either a Father or Mother? Likely Mother?)

Demi is connected to Miles somehow

Martha "deceived" Miles

Joker is only listed as "hostile" to Violetta, doesn't mention "murder" unlike elsewhere when a character is killed (same about Norton)

Margaretha is "exploiting" Joker

Tracy “rescued” Violetta (likely being the mechanic who gave Violetta her prosthetics in Violetta’s backstory)

Melly has some connection to Sam

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Part 3 - Thoughts/Theories

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“Roy” is not mentioned anywhere that I’m aware of (though a “Roy” is mentioned in Mary’s letters, but I think this is someone else?). I did wonder, even though we know “Orpheus” is apparently involved in game 0, if Roy could be 0-1-0 if it isn’t “Orpheus”. Helena’s 3rd letter, as most experiment letters, should be written by Orpheus as a record of his “experiments”, so it’d be odd if he’s talking about himself as 0-1-0. We know from Helena’s letter that No. 0-1-0 had "multiple tests" done on them before “interventions in stages” on Helena, as well as 0-1-0 is someone Helena considered an "ally".

I’m confused about it saying Philip “mistook” Belinda as Christina. Nowhere in his letters or deductions does he say the name, though it does in his relations page. Her name was first revealed in a Q&A, where they said Philip “forgot the name of the woman on his shoulder, he only knows that she is his sister”. Well, based on his 2nd letter, he does call her “Belinda”, unless he’d already forgotten and this was what he thought her name was. I assume that body is still “Christina” but he just forgot what her real name was, which… is really saying something about Philip if he doesn’t even remember his sibling’s name. I doubt that the body wasn’t actually Christina’s but instead someone else with the name “Belinda”, but this definitely leaves me more uncertain than I’d like. Or another possibility is the figure on his shoulder is just a wax creation (not actually his sister’s body) and his sister’s been gone long enough (and he’s traumatized enough) where he either repressed the memories of his sister or has forgotten, with the wax figure on his shoulder his constant reminder of simply the fact his sister was taken from him and he needs to avenge her. And due to his forgetting, he’s named the wax figure on his shoulder “Belinda”.

I’m assuming Keigan killed Dr. Mesmer sometime after her discussion with Bessie, her niece and had married to her brother Harold Nicholas Keogh. We learn Bessie was unsatisfied with the marriage, and he wasn’t even accompanying her to the doctor despite her pregnancy. Keigan learns due to Bessie that Harold has a substantially larger than normal savings account than he should have based on his monthly income. We further learn Harold was involved with Dr. Mesmer, who had paid Harold for helping “resolve baseless accusations” against him. Based on what we know of Keigan from her backstory, deductions, and trailer, it isn’t unreasonable to say she decided to deal with Dr. Mesmer similar to how she dealt with her brother due to the threat they posed to Bessie.

Antonio’s game has 5 people mentioned in the letters, but the relations page only shows 4. We know that 3-0-1 is Andrew and Antonio is 3-1-3. We know Antonio felt “affecton” for Polun, and Antonio’s 3rd letter mentions he showed “affability” to 3-?-2 and 3-1-5. We know from Polun’s letter that he was likely affected by drugs during their “feast” based on the mention of feeling “dizzy”, and Antonio’s 3rd letter mentions 3-?-2 felt the effects of the drugged wine (and Polun’s 2nd letter does mention wine). Therefore, Polun is likely 3-?-2. As for Sangria, we know he felt “vigilant” towards her.

As for 3-1-4 and 3-1-5:

we know 3-1-4 was: “consistently polite” to Andrew, had a “shared attitude towards faith” with Andrew, had “superior communication and expressive abilities” but their past experiences hindered their ability to establish meaningful connections with others and were too “absorbed in their pursuit of friendship and salvation” causing a lack of awareness of their surroundings and made them be manipulated by 3-1-5 and utilized his familiarity with the mansion to start an arson under the stage and cause 3-1-4’s demise. Also, 3-1-4 was effected by the drugs with polun

while 3-1-5 was “adept at disguising their true intentions”, “skilled at sensing others’ emotions” which he used to form a “temporary alliance” with Andrew, “subtle manipulations” of 3-1-4, had hostile feelings towards Andrew, and “spun lies” praising Andrew’s work (façade via acting) and determined Andrew’s “fate” in the “temple”. Also, 3-1-5 was affable with Antonio

My best guess is 3-1-4 may be Sangria, who we know was “buried” by Andrew as well as Sangria is someone tied to a “stage” and “fire”. She would also fit as someone who would be “polite” and good at “communication” and interest in “faith” and “salvation. This would leave 3-1-5. Considering this game has a lot to do with “acting skills” and performance, I wonder if 3-1-5 could be the Goatman, Jeffrey (and with his connection to animals, I could see him being good at sensing others’ emotions and due to the performances he had to put on potentially good at hiding his “true intentions”).

Max “invited” Polun. I assume this was likely after they left St. Catherine’s theater. We have no knowledge of whether Polun spent any time at Max’s freakshow, but as they seemed focused on finding their parents and the wording of “invited”, I assume they declined the invitation.

I have no idea how Emma was helped by Orpheus. We still haven’t figured out the truth behind Emma’s 4th letter, which seems to happen after her game (with Freddy, Kreacher, and Emily). Her “new friends” are aware of their memories being tampered with and warn her to secretly keep a record of everything. It’s possible Orpheus “helped” her to reunite with Leo via that invitation with the Thistle. Or it’s possible he did something during her actual game. We aren’t sure.

Regarding Game 5, we seem to have confirmed the only 2 that were “sacrificed” were Edgar and Vera. We know Kevin drank the drug and as a result didn’t participate in the game at all. Jose, based on Wu Chang’s 3rd letter and the latter half of Jose’s 3rd letter did seem to participate in the game (especially with Jose’s letter implying the manor owner “treasured” the opportunity to use Jose in his experiment and thus wouldn’t want to miss out, thus why he was willing to stop the experiment if it looked like Jose wouldn’t make it). We have no knowledge then of Jose’s or Patricia’s fates. Jose mentions finding the umbrella in the garden, where it still is during the final game. This is seemingly after the game and Vera and Edgar, who he references in his 4th letter, are already gone and he seems to be getting ready to leave. Patricia’s 4th letter doesn’t leave us with any potential hints as to what happened, though the way Jose seems to have made it through the game, yet only mentions Edgar and Vera, I wonder if something happened to her during the game, potentially something caused by Wu Chang if Jose was influenced by him.

Sam being "drinking buddies" with Jose... The only place Sam is referenced is in Jose’s 2nd letter in reference to the signature on his father’s ledger of goods the day Joaquin Baden vanished. We know Jose was drank both to help him sleep (due to his trouble with panic attacks/night terrors) and other times that led to him “missing the tide” and not boarding the ship. We know from his background in the relations page that he was delayed at Liverpool the day his father vanished. It may not be true, but what if he was drinking with Sam that day in Liverpool, or something else with Sam? Especially if Sam signed off on the ledger of goods for that voyage. It’s also curious how it specifically states Jose was in Liverpool that day. If he was just drinking normally, they didn’t have to specify. He could just drink anywhere, but it gives a specific location. So there’s a good chance there’s a reason for it, and as Sam is tied to Joaquin’s disappearance, it's possible Sam could’ve been with Jose that day too. Maybe Sam was even the person Jose’s father asked in Jose’s deduction 8 to help fix Jose essentially, even if it meant Jose wouldn’t “remember how to be a good man”. I don’t know if Sam would’ve been the person to leave that “spiritual anchor” via deep hypnosis referenced in Jose’s 3rd letter, but we don’t know nearly enough about Sam to be completely certain.

It makes sense for Grace and Yidhra to appear in the game with the supernatural theme and taking place at Lakeside. So far, we know Fiona is 6-1-3, Luchino is 6-1-4, and Hastur aka Arthur Byers is likely 6-0-5. This leaves 6-1-1, 6-1-2, and 6-1-6. The only info we have is 6-1-2 lost their life in an “unfortunate accident” and was replaced by 6-1-6, as well as Luchino was the only one not to vanish after the game. So, there’s not enough info to argue that Grace and Yidhra aren’t possible. Though, as we know 6 individuals are involved in this experiment, that does mean there’s 1 other person we don’t know of in this game. My best guess at this time is that it could be Ithaqua. As for Luchino’s deceit against Fiona, I assume this ties to how her 3rd letter says she “missed a crucial piece of ‘divine insight’” to lose her chance to escape.

Regarding Martha “deceiving” Miles, we do know from Michiko’s 2nd letter that she supposedly was helping him find the “keepsake” of Michiko’s (likely the hatpin) he was looking for, and then in Michiko’s 3rd letter, he mentioned Martha should’ve arrived at the manor 3 days ago yet there has been no news of her. Miles does get the hatpin at the manor, so that leaves the question of how exactly she “deceived” him. It’s possible it had to do with he didn’t know who Martha actually was, or she potentially deceived him to lead him to the manor (possibly lying about the keepsake being auctioned off or something, I’m not sure).

I have 0 idea though how Demi is possibly connected to Miles, unless it’s because Miles may end up being in that game with her, Martha, Eli, and Luchino (though only 4 individuals are referenced in the letters for that game so far). We do know Miles is confirmed to be in some game due to Michiko’s 3rd letter, just not which one yet.

Demi “framing” Martha, I wonder if that could relate to why Luchino believed Martha was the “liar” that would cause the final “tragedy”. This is then what leads to a “tragedy” between her and Luchino, which could relate to Demi’s 3rd letter talking about not bothering to discern truth from lies (which is the issue with Martha in this game as she first lied than was truthful, leading to confusion about her) and instead decided to “destroy” truth and lies, aka Martha herself potentially. As for the scheming, it’s possible Martha schemed because of being “framed” by Demi, unless Martha was planning something before Demi “framed” her. There’s not enough info to be certain.

I have 0 idea how Sam may be connected to Melly. The 1 possibility is from Melly’s 3rd letter, which is an “investigation record”, yet it’s not written by Orpheus considering the author specifically references him (“From this, I learned she knew Mr. Orpheus for many years before coming to the manor and was full of praise toward him”). So the author is someone who knows Orpheus at least (as well as Norton based on the mention of him further in) and this person knows Melly came to Oletus Manor, so it’s potentially someone who could be at the manor during that time? Especially as they comment on Melly’s fear of Orpheus being even stronger than her fear of Norton. Which is curious as I wonder if that implies he’s somehow monitoring the Final Game.

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