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just vibing with her new step-siblings
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So after watching episode 3 twice here are my thoughts again in no real order
• Prince J'emm: excuse me while I just adopt myself into your family and friendship circle (he’s so cute XD) in all seriousness it was cute/nice of him to offer helping Conner when he noticed Conner didn’t know a lot of other martian males to help him build the alter (shame on you M’gann’s like 16 brothers. Yes shame on you to M’comm)
• Em seems to have more of an attitude this episode
• and Gar is obviously very on edge still. M’gann, Conner help your little brother out would you
• Okay my theory that Em was once engaged to the Prince was way off. Turns out it was the priestess he tried marrying but Em has said she’s been married twice so either she has two spouses or has been divorced which could be what she meant by her parents really want this wedding to go well. If she’s divorced she may feel her parents are disappointed in her for it.
• Ah so that’s why she’s got more of an attitude Em thinks M’gann is just doing the wedding traditions to please their parents and overall thinks M’gann doesn’t respect martian traditions. She’s wrong but figured there was a reason she had more of an attitude this time around.
• Ouch another painful sibling talk. “You were our big sister you should have protected us!” “I was just a kid.” Very much like M’gann’s talk with M’comm except this time she was in her brother shoes while Em was in hers.
• M’gann’s mom apologizing for not realizing sooner that M’gann’s new form is her true form rather then her birth form was sweet and it seems by Em’s expression that she may be starting to understand her better to
• Ah so that’s so M’gann managed to stowaway with her uncle I kinda wondered how she managed that
• Completely forgot to mention in my last thoughts post but I figured that ship bio ship flew around with was her offspring. The way they flew around together gave me major mama whale swimming around with her baby vibes
• Hmm watching prince J'emm as M’gann’s father talked to Conner about what j’onn learned on earth has me wondering if he’s going to go back to earth with them for awhile when the mars arc finishes off
• Oh shoot Gar is full on seeing things now well more specifically an angry, murderous Brion
• Quick thinking grabbing the ship J'emm
• Oh and he’s the one that went to find Gar despite the former Green beetle saying it was to dangerous and he would go. The prince really is getting attached to them it seems
• Hi totally M’gann thank you for fixing Gar and accidentally dropping a hint Brion was not totally in control of his choices
• Is Saturn girl a martian or is just another physic in general? I haven’t heard of her much before this show
•I made a separate post about the end credits already but I’ll say it again omg XD
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JoJolion timeline LOG
I finally made this, the ultimate guide of JoJolion timeline which will be updated and revised frequently. Corrections are welcome.
Unknown Timeline (circa Meiji Era: 1868-1912)
The birth of Tooru, a rock-human.
1891
The Steels stored the Holy Corpse underground so that it will never be taken advantage by anyone, anymore.
Stephen Steel had also told Johnny about the Underground Shelter.
1901
Johnny Joestar took Holy Corpse that was stored underground to save his family, he was being pursued by American Government Agents to Japan.
November 11 evening: death of Johnny Joestar and creation of Les Feuilles.
November 12 morning: Johnny's corpse was found by the authorities.
November 13: Johnny's death and the discovery of a child were announced in Yashirokita News.
December 7: Yashirokita News reported that Johnny's death was considered an accident.
Theory:
Johnny’s infinite spin & his corpse caused the land in Higashikata property to have the equivalent exchange ability.
The Higashikata first born son is dressed as girl to trick the demon that causes the disease. It happens to Tsurugi, Tsurugi’s father (Jobin), Tsurugi’s grandpa (Norisuke IV), and Norisuke IV’s grandpa (Norisuke II). Is it possible that the curse of hereditary rock disease starts from Norisuke I’s children?
1911
Lucy Steel who worked under Speedwagon Foundation was investigating Morioh Hunting Ground in Japan because it was similar to the Devil’s Palm.
1938
Locacaca was discovered by Australians in New Guinea.
1941
Lucy Steel went to Morioh once again to investigate Morioh's hunting grounds near the orchard owned by the Higashikata Fruit Company, she was also researching Locacaca fruit. She met a boy named Fumi and both of them encountered the 「Radio Gaga」’s incident.
During Lucy and Joseph Joestar (Fumi)’s encounter with 「Radio Gaga」’s incident, Tooru was seen planting a Locacaca in a pot near Higashikata’s orchard.
1942
All reports of the Locacaca ceased after the Imperial Japanese Army invaded New Guinea in 1942 during the World War II.
1944
Lucy Steel passed away from a lung disease at the age of 68.
1952
Joseph Joestar (Fumi) met Suzi Q from the Speedwagon Foundation. They eventually married and their daughter, (Kira) Holy Joestar was born in 1959.
1963
In winter, Higashikata Norisuke IV contracted the family disease and his mother, Tomoko sacrificed herself using equivalent exchange on Higashikata’s land.
1991
Higashikata Caato sacrificed the bully boy to cure Jobin, using equivalent exchange and murdering the bully boy in the process. Jobin awakened his Stand, Speed King.
Kira Yoshiteru (Holy’s husband) died.
Kujo Josefumi was born in S. City.
1994
17 years ago, Mamezuku Rai’s father died in a landslide when he rushed out of the house to investigate harmful insects in the family’s orchard.
1996
Caato was sentenced for 15 years as prisoner 28 at the Stone Ocean prison. Norisuke IV divorced her while she was still in prison.
Unknown Timeline
Chapter 75: Mamezuku family’s cultivating techniques were leaked, leading to a competitor, which were connected with some local money-lenders, managing to steal an entire crop of pear and bringing down the fruit trees. Rai’s parents had to part with their orchards. Blaming his parents, Rai began to live alone in a ski slope, cultivating his own fruits despite the difficulties.
Chapter 100: Rai’s mother died long after the death of his father, she underwent great mental anguish brought on by the debts because of the pear orchard before dying of illness.
1997 (circa)
Rai (aged 17) met Norisuke IV when Norisuke IV came to buy his grown strawberries. Impressed by their quality, Norisuke IV appointed Rai in secret to be his personal fruit grower and appraiser. Rai's existence in the company was kept with the utmost secrecy, with not even Norisuke IV's family & his own heir, Jobin ever being informed.
Kira Holy Joestar saved Josefumi’s life in hospital (the timeline was ±1997 because Kira mentioned that they supposed to watch Titanic).
1997/1998
Higashikata Daiya (around 2-3 years old) fell into the faults and her vision deteriorated but she awakened her Stand, California King Bed.
1998
Holy began to work at T.H. Medical University Hospital.
2001
Hirose Yasuho met Tooru at the first time during her summer camp, Tooru was looking for someone to have his identity stolen and started impersonating as Akefu Satoru.
2002
Tsurugi Higashikata was born and Yasuho’s parents divorced.
2005
Yasuho bought a Qing Dynasty Hairclip, she got attacked by it as it turned out to be a rock animal.
Yasuho met Holy and Yoshikage in hospital, Holy also saved Yasuho’s life and Yoshikage destroyed the hairclip.
Theory:
Kira Yoshikage said that his mother (Holy) said something weird and for certain reason she is no longer a doctor, and Yasuho’s attending physician.
Is this an early sign of Holy’s illness and the arrival of The Head Doctor (and his gang)?
Or was the beginning that Holy builds a hidden lab and did research to Locacaca?
If it is the first case, it’s quite impressive that she managed to become a professor.
2008
Holy became a professor at T.G. University.
Summer, Sasame Ojiro encountered Kira Yoshikage.
Norisuke IV hired Yagiyama Yotsuyu as his architect to design Higashikata mansion and The Teahouse in front of the train station that sells fruit.
Higashikata Jobin had an argument with his father in the stadium regarding the business, he mentioned that the flow of people around the main shop in front of the train station has changed because those T-University people (who supposed to be doctors) put a mall at the west exit.
Still in the stadium, Jobin met Yotsuyu (who was still in the process of designing a mansion for Higashikata) and Damokan group.
Theory:
The cooperation between Damokan group and Higashikata (Jobin) in smuggling Locacaca & money-laundering might begin here.
Those T-University Doctors whom Jobin was talking about, could it be that they are the Head Doctor’s gang? Jobin said that the mall they built hindered their family business, perhaps the Head Doctor’s gang intentionally disrupted their business to lure Jobin into working with Damokan group?
2009
Kira Yoshikage worked as cargo ship doctor, he found a Rock Human (Aisho) aboard his ship.
Dainenjiyama Aisho disguised as rock from Port Moresby for use in an artificial garden, the client was the Higashikata.
Yoshikage investigated Aisho and found about their shady business, selling illegal imported fruits and teaming up with the Higashikata family. Kira decided to steal one of those fruits.
Iwakiri Atsunori was a batter for the Seiten Birdies, but he damaged his shoulder.
Higashikata mansion was still in the process of being renovated and was likely completed in the same year.
Unknown Timeline (around 2005?-2009)
Holy began to fall ill as the hospital gained a new number of doctors as well as a new Head Doctor.
Holy created the hidden lab and did scientific analysis on the Locacaca.
2010
Iwakiri, age 24, had a transaction with Aisho, then ate a Locacaca fruit while Yoshikage was spying on them.
Yoshikage and Josefumi stole 2 Locacaca branches to cure Holy.
2011
March, 6 months after Yoshikage and Josefumi stole 2 Locacaca branches, Japan (including Morioh) was heavily damaged by a tsunami. The Locacaca tree wilted and the Rock Humans noticed that 2 branches were stolen.
March 11, the night following the tsunami, Wall Eyes appeared in Morioh.
Sometimes after March 11, Nijimura Kei discovered the equivalent exchange on Higashikata’s land.
Friday, August 19, 10 months, 16 days, 3 hours and 24 minutes after they stole 2 Locacaca branches, Yoshikage and Josefumi were tracked down by Damo Tamaki and Yotsuyu.
3 days before JoJolion begins, deaths and fusion of Yoshikage and Josefumi. The creation of Josuke.
2011 (JoJolion main timeline begins)
Hirose Yasuho discovers Josuke's unconscious body.
Kira Yoshikage’s dead body is discovered and Josuke is adopted by the Higashikata family.
Higashikata Joshu awakens his Stand, Nut King Call in Shakedown Road.
Death of Yotsuyu. Higashikata Josuke and Norisuke IV learn of the rock-humans and Locacaca's existence.
Death of Aisho. Yasuho and Tsurugi learn about Jobin’s cooperation with Damokan group.
Death of A. Phex Brothers. Josuke learns about Josefumi through Sakunami Karera.
6 months after the tsunami that hit Morioh, Damo goes to the Higashikata's house. The same day, Damo is killed by Josuke.
2 weeks before Caato returns to the Higashikata house, Joshu gets attacked by Milagro Man.
Caato, age 52, finishes her 15 year-long incarceration in the Stone Ocean prison, after 3662 working days. She goes to Higashikata house and visits her family.
Defeat of Dolomité. Josuke and Yasuho learn Jobin’s true role within Damokan group and the hint of a greater organization.
Josuke and Yasuho meet Mamezuku Rai. Deaths of Urban Guerrilla and Doremifasolati Do. There is a greater rock humans organization than Damokan group that also hunts down the new Locacaca.
The Countdown of New Locacaca’s Harvest Begins:
12d4h33m: Jobin buries Ozon Baby.
12d2h11m: Josuke and Rai are in Higashikata’s underground.
12d2h2m: still in the Ozon Baby arc, Jobin and Tsurugi are in CCTV room.
The Higashikata family's orchard is burnt down by Tsurugi and Jobin.
Death of Poor Tom.
10d19h6m: Higashikata Mitsuba and Yasuho are in T.G. University Hospital.
Mitsuba learns about the equivalent exchange and Locacaca.
Yasuho meets her ex-boyfriend, Tooru.
Yasuho and Mitsuba discover a hidden lab & stash of Locacaca plants within the hospital, which are destroyed by Rai.
Death of Tomoki Wu.
7d1h2m: Mitsuba arrives in front of Tsurugi's school to take him back to their home after a school trip to the Omoshiroyama-Yamadera trail.
7d0h44m: Mina (the girl who bullied Tsurugi) is having apparently been crushed between the iron gates of the school. As the leader asks if anyone saw what happened, the girl that alerts her claims that she saw Tsurugi pushed the gates closed.
6d4h12m: Josuke, Yasuho, and Rai pursue the head of the Locacaca Organization, Akefu Satoru, but are unable to capture him or see his face. A bystander is accidentally killed during the pursuit, leading to a police manhunt for Josuke and Rai.
6d3h25m: A parent meeting regarding the incident at Tsurugi’s school.
Mitsuba sees The Head Doctor on CCTV record.
Mitsuba and Jobin have a pillow talk.
5d1h5m: Ojiro and his girlfriend, Kitani Maako (Makorin) are talking about Higashikata’s land and fortune.
Unknown timeline (prior to the fight with Ojiro): Caato goes to Higashikata house and meets Jobin, Jobin tells her about the New Locacaca and orchard burning.
3d1h19m: 3 days before the harvest, Ojiro locates the New Locacaca hidden inside the Higashikata estate and sends proof of its existence to Makorin. However, both of them are eliminated by Jobin.
2d0h0m: Josuke & Rai discover that Akefu Satoru will be attending a lecture the next day. They are attacked by Satoru's Stand and are pursued by the police, with Josuke being injured gravely enough to be sent to T.G. University Hospital as Rai is taken into police custody.
Yasuho discovers the true face of Satoru Akefu.
Tsurugi begins to succumb from the effects of the Rock Disease.
1d?h?m/30h: Satoru's lecture takes place at T.G. University Hospital, starts at 11:00 am, introducing Locacaca 6251.
Josuke awakens in the hospital and is attacked yet again by Satoru's Stand. He meets Holy and she helps him recover with Locacaca 6251.
0d3h24m: Yasuho goes to Higashikata mansion and sneaks in Tsurugi’s room. She gets caught by Jobin and Paisley Park gets flushed in the toilet.
Norisuke IV finds out about the murder that Jobin committed to Ojiro. He gets attacked by Speed King and unconscious.
0d2h11m: Yasuho and Jobin are gravely wounded, Satoru gets pursued by a reporter while Josuke just sits back, waiting for Satoru menacingly. Meanwhile, Tooru is just vibing while listening to Elvis Presley.
Josuke & Rai fights Dododo De Dadada.
Rai is dying by Wonder of U’s calamity.
The death of Jobin and Rai.
Yasuho eats the new Locacaca, discovers Tooru as the source of calamity and calls Kei.
Joshu fails his redemption.
The death of Kei.
Caato does an equivalent exchange with Tooru and dying Tsurugi while also destroying the remaining New Locacaca plant.
The death of Caato and Tooru.
0d0h13m: Norisuke IV is gravely wounded and his body is dragged by Tsurugi.
Locacaca was gone forever in Japan.
Holy's fate is left hanging (she's still in a coma in the hospital).
Norisuke IV is discharged from the hospital.
Josuke is officially accepted as Higashikata’s family member and Yasuho walks out the door.
FIN
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Thoughts on Star Trek Discovery after 5 episodes
(Spoilers for Discovery S01E05 and Orville S01E06)
Episode 5 of Star Trek Discovery aired last night in Canada (up here the network Space airs it, so we don’t need to rely on streaming to view it). “Choose Your Pain” was its title and it’s ironic that it aired a few days after The Orville’s surprisingly hard-hitting “Krill” because it actually allows for something very close to an apples-to-apples comparison.
I’m going to go into spoilers, plus this will be a very long post (apologies; this is Exhibit A to show why I’m not on Twitter), so I’ll put a break here. The tl;dr is that, although I’m still willing to give it a chance, I’m still not “feeling” Discovery, which after 5 episodes is a concern; whereas, I find The Orville not only captures the classic spirit of Trek better, it managed in one single episode to make its Klingon analogue more interesting than the real Klingons in their current incarnation.
Before I begin, I wanted to set the scene to explain where I’m coming from. There is a lot of Discovery-bashing going on, and I don’t support that and this essay isn’t intended to be a bash. Although I am very critical of the show and not 100% certain that I’m going to stick with it much longer (though I’ll probably stick with it till its midseason break, at least), it’s not my intent to become a basher because then I’d be a hypocrite. I was a defender of Star Trek Enterprise throughout its entire run, and was upset to see it bashed mercilessly, to the point where I divorced myself from Star Trek and Star Trek fandom after it ended in 2005. Fortunately, Doctor Who had just come back on TV so I switched my allegiances to Who (which I’d been a fan of since the early 80s, but it became more intense). Fast-forward to 2017, and due to a mix of disappointment over what the series has delivered since Christmas 2015, combined with decisions regarding the show moving forward, I'm now divorcing from Doctor Who (as anyone who follows my blog knows). So with Star Trek back on TV the opportunity to move my allegiances back to Trek exists ... but Discovery isn’t doing it for me. Not yet. Instead, The Orville, Seth MacFarlane’s underrated (in more ways than one) homage is the show that is earning my affection. I know I’m not alone in that.
But here’s the thing, and why I don’t really see the need to “bash” Discovery: because The Orville is so much like “proper” Star Trek - the optimism, the crew-as-family dynamic, the introspective and “ripped from the headlines”-inspired stories, and general sense of fun - this actually allows Discovery to seek its own path (even if that means delivering “improper” Trek), allowing both shows to co-exist (which they could regardless - it’s not as if they’re in direct competition).
But Discovery has problems. Before I get into that, though, some positive thoughts.
This week’s episode introduced Rainn Wilson as Harry Mudd, a character immortalized by Roger C. Carmel in the original series. And I thought he did a good job. I don’t have the same issues with recasting characters as some others do (I liked the guy they had playing Sarek earlier, too). My only complaint is they made him darker than Carmel’s version, which felt a bit inconsistent. But then again this is 10 years before Kirk encountered him and people change (it could be argued that Carmel’s version is more insane than Wilson’s, and maybe we’re seeing why in Discovery). I loved the reference to Stella, his wife, which was a great call-forward to the TOS episode “I, Mudd”. Trivia: Carmel was supposed to reprise Mudd for an episode of TNG, but the actor died before it was filmed; I believe some aspects of what was planned for Mudd - including a scene where he was supposed to actually pay tribute to his frenemy, Captain Kirk - were later reused when they brought Scotty forward into the TNG era in “Relics”. So having Mudd appear in a modern-day Trek is an idea that’s been kicking around for 30 years.
Obviously, Mudd will be back and I’m looking forward to it. I’d rather he be the recurring baddie than the new Klingons. More on that in a moment.
I also liked the on-screen reference to Jonathan Archer, Christopher Pike and Robert April early in the episode. Robert April was established in the animated series as the very first captain of the Enterprise, predating Pike. Since TAS is not considered canon (or at least it wasn’t considered canon during the pre-2005 era; it might have changed since), this is the first “canonical” acknowledgement of April in live action. I appreciated that.
I also liked Capt. Lorca in this episode. After two weeks of being just “there”, Lorca came into his own with this episode. And his backstory is interesting.
But I have criticisms of this episode, and of the show itself as we hit week 5. Starting with a minor point, after four weeks of keeping a lid on language, the swearing in this episode was awkward and clearly put in there “because we can” - there was nothing charming or cool about the first use of the F-word (twice in the same scene, yet) in the Trek franchise. I’m not one to go “oooh, swearing, bad” (The Thick of It is one of my favourite TV shows, for god’s sake), but there’s a time and place, and it just didn’t work - it came across as vulgar and awkward. If they’re going to have people swear in Discovery, fine, but don’t make it feel like “hey, we can swear now!” Torchwood ran into this same issue - and the swearing during Series 1 felt unnatural as a result. If they want Lorca and his crew to turn the air blue, they should get Armando Iannucci in to show them how it’s done.
What will be the deal-breaker for me is if this show continues to be populated with characters I don’t give a damn about. I like Michael (who was for the first time not the focus of an episode) and Lorca has potential - all the characters have potential - but 5 weeks in they should be further along than they are in terms of establishing them, even taking into account the two-episode prologue and the fact a core character only debuted this week.
Five weeks in, and without cheating online, I still don't remember the names of most of the main characters because they’ve made so little impression on me. Michael is fine, Lorca is fine, and I know the new guy is named Tyler (mainly because I’m curious as to whether he’s related to Jose Tyler of Christopher Pike’s Enterprise in “The Cage”), but the rest - by now they should have made enough of an impression for me to at least remember their names, not just call them “Michael’s roommate”, “the jerk who runs the spore drive and who might or might not be the chief engineer but we can’t tell”, “Odo 2.0”, “the doctor who lives with the spore drive guy and who I thought was the ship’s doctor until he mentioned that he answers to a chief medical officer who we’ve yet to see”, “the incompetent who got herself killed by the spore monster last week in a scene Seth MacFarlane would have rejected as too silly”, “the roboty woman on the bridge who kinda looks like Nebula from Guardians of the Galaxy,” and “the woman whose head is half shaved”. In fact I think this was the first episode in which those last two individuals were actually identified by names on screen.
By comparison, I had not just the Orville character names but their functions nailed down by Episode 2 of that show. And I had much more invested in them as characters, even early on (and by “Krill” I find I want to know more about what’s happening with Borus and Klyden and their child, Alara’s love life, and whether Ed and Kelly are going to get back together or not). With Discovery it’s almost as if they’re all being set up to be redshirts. (As it is, I really don’t expect to Michael’s roommate - I looked it up; her name is Tilly - to survive the season. Too much telegraphing about her being naive and having dreams for the future.) Maybe they are if the show is taking the Game of Thrones “anyone can die” approach and if there is a reason why we’ve never heard of Spock having an adopted human sister before now.
When I started writing this very long (sorry!) blog entry, I mentioned an apples-to-apples comparison between Discovery and Orville. This week, “Choose Your Pain” and “Krill” both involved captains boarding enemy vessels and learning more about the bad guys. And it really drove home the fact that the new Klingons are rather boring. Never mind the different make-up and all that - I’m sure they’ll come up with a workaround to explain that the same way Enterprise did back in 2005 with the Augments story arc (and I didn’t miss the fact they name-dropped eugenics this week) - they just don’t have the spark of the Klingons of old, or even the Abramsverse versions. Not saying there aren‘t promising signs - I kind of like the fact the show is shipping cult leader Voq with the female officer L’Rell. Every episode so far has included focus on the Klingons. But in only one episode, The Orville managed to develop a very well-rounded picture of the Krill, making them relevant, interesting, sympathetic, and “villains” we want to see more of. The Klingons on Discovery? I want more Harry Mudd, fewer Klingons. Of course, a big difference between Orville and Discovery is the use of humour. Discovery pretty much has none, while Orville is a dramedy. Which was driven home during the climax of the Discovery episode when we were actually treated to an unexpected piece of Orville-like comedy when the female Klingon captain, who has the hots for Tyler. Encountering him trying to escape, she let off with something like “After all we mean to each other, you’re leaving?” (not an exact quote). It was a funny moment, but poorly timed. Seriously, we’re supposed to see her as a threat (and an ongoing one seeing as Lorca doesn’t finish her off as opposed to every other Klingon he encounters), and she spouts dialogue more appropriate for a spoof? Compare to The Orville, which usually knows when to be funny and when not to be. Having Ed Mercer and Gordon Molloy facing the possibility of having to kill a bunch of Krill children in order to save a human colony, and Mercer saying “If we kill those kids ... we have no souls” was a far more hard-hitting and dramatic moment than anything “Choose Your Pain” offered. And once things got serious, they got serious. The ending of “Krill” was chilling as Mercer realized that instead of saving a bunch of kids, he created a bunch of future enemies instead, instantly giving the series a long-term aspect as the potential is there for it to revisit this fact years from now, if it survives that long. The Avis rent-a-car jokes were funny, and the opening sequence where Bortus does his best Matter-Eater Lad impersonation (Google it) was cute, and I loved the gag where Ed starts talking before Alara can open a channel, but it was the serious moments that made “Krill” stand out. The next episode looks serious as well as it casts a long-overdue spotlight on Lt. LaMarr.So to sum up: I’m not ready yet to say “Discovery sucks” as some have. I don’t think it does, despite all I’ve written here. It has issues, yes, but every Trek series has issues and teething pains. I am concerned that the characters aren’t gelling for me and that’s what’s going to make me decide to keep watching in the long term. On the other hand, The Orville is proving to be a great show that also has had its rough patches and its teething pains, but it managed to hit the ground running a lot faster in terms of establishing characters and stories and tone. I am in the market for a sci-fi show to replace Doctor Who, and so far The Orville is winning the battle against Star Trek Discovery. But I’m not willing to write Discovery off ... yet.
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