#she IS traumatized and she IS rebelling from an abusive cult and she DOES have god powers that she
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berryhatfingers · 5 months ago
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You said you wanted to make people mad on the internet, and you have instead brought delight to my internet. I love your opinions and share them. So I’m build on what you said and potentially piss people off myself.
I feel like despite it being such a huge deal in TSC the fandom has decided to ignore the fact Jean is 19, that he was 14/16(I can’t remember if he had two years before joining the line and I’m too tired to check) when he was sold and because the most abused and targeted person there. The one Riko learned, practiced, and intensified his sadism on.
Like the sexualization of Jean is so frustrating to me. I get that everyone heals and responds to sexual abuse/assault differently, but that’s not the only thing Jean needs to heal from, there’s also cult-aspects, being owned/trafficked, his sister having been sold as a child bride to her death, years of ritualistic torture/abuse, and others, so much else.
Because yeah, Jean is a fighter, his instinct is to fight, he also fights in his own way: keeping French, his accent, and teaching Kevin the language were just some ways in the nest, he had rebellions, smart ones. What he’s doing a USC is also such a big ‘fuck you’ to Riko hating Jean-Yves the French boy. THEIR PR STRATEGY INCLUDES HIM BARELY SPEAKING ANYTHING BUT FRENCH. Like that interaction in the mall wasn’t official strategy, but it’s such a healing move, he’s getting to fight/rebel safely, not having to panic over public statements/speaking, holding openly hold his nationality, his language, his personhood. THAT is what TSC is about.
Yes, we have simping after Jeremy, and yeah, JereJean is probably gonna start teasing in. But just for some perspective guys, it took me seven years to be able handle that sort of intimacy, friends are hard on their own, but those extra layers that are part of sexual intimacy (which I’m including kissing in) had more layers of vulnerability, trust, and triggers.
I want TGR to be Jean getting to heal, coming into his own, letting him have friends, a home, something like freedom, and maybe a flirtation with Jeremy. But Jean didn’t have friends (‘cause cult) he had alliances, his closest relationship was with Zayn and when that bargain got broken we know what Zayn let be. That was a connection/alliance that Jean had to build and fight for. Renee was complicated, friends that could have been romantic in different circumstances. Renee is the first person Jean was friendly with since his sister who hasn’t complicit in his abuse, and even then she knew about the abuse, and removed him from that environment without his consent and without a plan (thank you Neil for sorting that).
So Cat, Laila, Jeremy, the floozies, the Trojans (minus Lucas) are Jean’s first experiences of friendship and amicable companionship. Let the kid breathe. Because @sidevolt is right, he’s NINETEEN.
SocMed AU is a great little teehee moment, and I love it. But don’t forget canon, how young these character are, how traumatized they are. When thinking about Jean remember he and his sister were human trafficked as children, Elodie died, published is the only version where Jean didn’t, and now he is a traumatized kid who’s trying to figure out what life looks like without daily violence and threat of horrific abuse.
I know a lot of pre-2024 fandom material has Jean as older, but even then he was still what, 20/21? Still YOUNG. I didn’t understand the weight of these character’s youth when I first read these books, they felt old, as can happen when you read about characters older than yourself, but I’m in my mid-20s now. I am still young, but I look at these characters and I feel the heaviness Wymack does, because they’re kids, they’re barely legally adults, but further they’ve had to act adult so much while still being KIDS.
So yeah, don’t sexuality these characters, don’t rush let, let them be, let them heal, let them find their place and their rhythm to life rather than saying their healing should be rushed/haphazard so you can get JereJean to be canon in a month.
Let the art be art. If you want those things write or read fanfiction, I know I’ve come off judgey and preachy in this, but like guy, not everything needs to be canon, and not everything need to happen fast in a series either. That’s the power of fandom, that you can have what you want without the canon. Have an au, canon-divergence, headcanon, ship, dream for post-story future, whatever, I enjoy such things, and you get to as well! We can all enjoy fandom spaces however we do so, these are just my thoughts, k thanks.
(Also an aside @sidevolt if I ever start writing fics I will definitely ask for translation help)
i'm french and in my early twenties, of course i want to make people mad on the internet!
here are some opinions :
- i don't want JereJean to kiss in tgr, Jean is not ready for that.
- Jean isn't a weak submissive damsel in distress, he is a 6ft man who's first instinct is fight. just because he had to submit to survive doesn't mean he's naturally submissive
- and yet he is still a teenager with no normal life experiences, so sexualizing the way some people in this fandom do is weird
- the way some people sexualize any character is weird actually
- the socmed AUs can be funny, even if they're ooc and not realistic
- i want tgr to end with Jeremy's graduation, and book 3 to be about Jean learning to live on his own during his last year
- i don't like it when people use french words in fanfic bc most of the time they don't use the words correctly and it makes me cringe. sorry about that one it's a little mean but it had to be said. i'm more than okay to help with translation tho, just dm me !
that's it for now but there will probably be more.
i'd say "don't like, don't interact" but please, interact :)
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nadziejastar · 5 years ago
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Even with the whole power of waking thing healing him, shouldn’t there be issues Isa has to work through after waking up?
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“It’s an order. Why are you hesitating? Aren’t you the one who mercilessly punishes those who turn their backs on the organization?” Xaldin said, from the third chair. 
Definitely! I think both Lea and Isa would have a LOT of issues to work through. That’s why they need each other. They’re the only ones who would be able to truly understand one another. Let’s compare Isa to Lea. The upside-down tears represent Axel’s lack of emotion. His inability (or refusal) to cry. I think they symbolized how Lea cast aside his heart and his morality in order to become an assassin. Axel’s job in the organization was to kill “traitors”. He was merciless about it. 
Roxas: But look at him! All he does is play his sitar all the time.
Axel: I don't think you give him enough credit. He works just as hard as--Okay, no he doesn't. But I'm pretty sure he has a job.
Xion: You know, I've seen Demyx out in the field, rocking out on that sitar of his.
Roxas: What does that accomplish?
Axel: Hey, for all you know, he's out there fighting Heartless and doing recon--just the same as you.
Presumably, Axel killed other Nobodies who rebelled or who Xemnas thought didn’t serve a purpose. He probably killed a lot of members before the current batch of IX-XIII. I think that’s probably why he got so weirdly defensive when Roxas and Xion were dissing Demyx and implying that he was useless. They had no idea, but if Demyx actually was deemed useless, it would be up to Axel to dispose of him. And Axel really didn’t want to do that. He only hated the apprentices. Axel’s characterization is so subtle like that because the story is from Roxas’s point of view. He’s innocent and naive, so he wouldn’t pick up on things like that. 
“We don’t disappear… We’re only reborn,” Naminé murmured, perhaps to herself.
“I’m not like you and Roxas,” Axel said flatly. His hand holding the ice pop stick paused in midair.
“But—but you…” She looked down, clenching her fists.
“It’s because I don’t have a heart,” Axel went on. “I don’t want to disappear, but I’m not upset or sad about it.”
Assuming that Axel only killed “traitors”, everyone he killed didn’t really disappear or die. Since they were Nobodies, they were simply recompleted, like him. So, all the guilt he carried and thinking he didn’t deserve a next life? He can let all that go. He didn’t actually kill anyone for good. So, it makes sense for the marks to disappear once he’s recompleted. That doesn’t mean that all Lea’s pain or trauma automatically disappeared when he was recompleted. He’d still have issues. But the symbol of him as an organization member is gone. He doesn’t have to carry the burden of being a killer.
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Saïx: Those are direct orders from Lord Xemnas. Failure is the same as insubordination. You understand that, don’t you?
Now this is just speculation on my part, but this is what I think the deal was with Isa’s scar. And this is one of the underlying themes of my new fic.
Axel wasn’t sure what to do yet. He would already be branded a traitor. He hadn’t exactly disobeyed orders…but he had failed to carry them out.
The story made a big deal out of this idea. If you fail, you’re a traitor, regardless of whether you intended to obey or not. That’s how absolute Xehanort’s sense of authority is. He demands total submission to his will...or else.
A name defines an object. Describes the span of it. Gives it purpose. We embarked upon the Replica Program to ensure our new power stays ours. Now, our shadow puppet, "No. i," lives. It needs a name. Something to define it. To give the hollow vessel purpose.
A name is what defines something and gives it purpose. It has meaning.
Xemnas: As your flesh bears the sigil, so your name shall be known as that...of a recusant.
Someone with the sigil on their flesh was given the name of a recusant. 
I could not even recall my name. I was simply called "X" there. One day, a man came to take me from the prison. I could not see him for the darkness, save that he wore an eyepatch.
Lets assume that person was Subject X. They are the only character named “X”. Let’s also assume that Isa was originally supposed to be Subject X. He’s the only one with the sigil on his flesh, after all. Subject X was given the name “X”, probably around the same time they received the mark on their flesh. It’s believable that a test subject would be branded like that. So, what does the name “X” mean? Why give that name to Subject X?
Well, the Recusant’s Sigil is also called the Mark of Heresy. A recusant is someone who refuses to submit to an authority. In other words, a traitor. I don’t think Isa was really a traitor in the typical sense, though. The mark of the recusant was carved onto his face as the brand of a failure. To punish, shame, and degrade him for his lack of power. To instill in him his new purpose so he would be worthy as a vessel. The reason Saïx’s new purpose was to get stronger? Because he was considered unworthy to be a member at first.
“We can’t afford to spend any more chances on you,” Saïx was telling her. “You were a mistake we never should have made. A failure.”
I think that explains why Saïx acted the way he did faaaar better than the idea of him becoming an apprentice to look for a female test subject. Saïx sacrificed himself to Xemnas because he wanted to feel like he had a purpose. Like someone needed him. He was very traumatized. The novels and manga made it clear that he was like this due to his human memories. He received his scar as a human. 
Saïx sounded vaguely disgusted. “What do you care for a broken, defective failure?”
Like all cult survivors, he will always carry that pain with him. While I think the power of waking would enable Isa to live a happy and functional life, and not be a broken shell of a person, he would of course still have challenges for the rest of his life due to experiencing such severe abuse and losing his whole childhood. 
But Saïx barely spared him a glance and pushed Axel’s hand from his shoulder. “Xion is not qualified to be counted among us.”
That’s why I think the scar symbolically stayed on him even when he was recompleted. They could have written Isa’s backstory to where he received the scar as a Nobody and it would vanish once he got a heart again. But they didn’t. The scar remained as a symbol of his trauma. I think Isa will always struggle with self-esteem and self-worth after what he went through. He will always feel like he needs a purpose to justify his existence. And he’d have a lot of difficulty feeling accepted by the others. He’d think that they wouldn’t like him after what his Nobody did. Skuld isn’t gonna help him with that. Lea could, though.
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benchgenderstudies · 8 years ago
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The Prophet from Shady Places
by Michael Bench
//A prose written to Cops and the Public by a Gender Anthropologist and Cannabis Pundit.  When certain bad guys behind badge get all wound up, cray- cray and need that time out.. something for them to de-escalate on//
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Ask a prophet from shady places about the world
they'll tell you the perils of thieving 
before the nonthief’s mind blooms a reason of positive reward.
*
I got a problem with cops to take up with other cops.
Its not NWA lyrics
Cops B is not Cops A. A does not equal B.
Cops B are down south: TX,CO,AZ,UT
Cops B been helping themselves to Quasimormon runaways
They on the roadside trying not to get raped the first time,
not get married a second time before their 15th birthday
These southern quasimormons have loyalty feuds under the bright bright sun
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It's really bright and sunny in those states
its so sunny and bright that if the god of jesus couldn't see
girls being raped while in bondage unprotected TIS OF THEE
That he'd not be perfect even for a son of a bitch.
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There's low hanging fruit here, Cops.
Looky map wise like the pains of Samweis,
Worried Frodo is looking for a crib and not a ring.
To a middle east and middle south confederate region
Bible belts and bible whistles
and bible thumpers who've written every word in it
Jesus doesn't speak to them for they'd molest him too
Make him say silly things unbelievable if he has any room in his mouth
to get a word out. To sound in message like he used to.
 *
Two hostile regions getting lots of sun and no service.
There's two imaginative sources of prophets
yammering  about a visions of dehydration
no wonder you felt like it was the end of the world
Some more water, drown your spinning mind
Get some more water , lose the divinity.
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All these bad visions a collected page vice robbing a girl of her decency
A bunch of males each region trafficking girls, like they're the only humans in it.
To each other, to someone else. Elders of the quasimormon portapotty, compound size;
Suffer the gluttony, pride and lust so openly
No version of an assembly of Jesus's words even edited would protect them
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The cops in texas and arizona , and utah, and perhaps other states..
They turn these girls back to the cult.
Some they turn around themselves first .
There is no religious fence against protecting the children
If in the name or mild margindoodle of Jesus ink selfie
associated to any religion, protect the children.
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Neither cops  of these states, sheriffs, parish leaders
nor anyone else in eased vision seems to be practicing that angle of the faith
The direct angle. Most so certain well lit angle
That if this universe had any association  
of a very creation story spun by the jews and christians..
A very hot hand would reach down from the sky  from the hot sun
pinning this world flat on a the rack of justice
And strip the identity of this mormon or lesser mans face right off their skull
Along with associated pains long past due.
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*Ashen piles.have you sympathy for them, Cop A?Cob B?
Dirt among the white race is being ignored by white cops.
Some bad news that can be made good.
I personally would like each of these
gated community rapist mormons branded with a Swastika
to assure their head is in the game.
2 ft x 2ft, on their back. Every "elder". taking wives instead of meeting wives.
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Protect and Serve doesn't necessarily sound like protect the children.
Its like Ragu, its in there. and if I were to believe a
father , son and holy spook have a place in the clouds,
that still isn't the commandments of Jesus that said
'love those as I loved you" and " protect the children , you stupid mothfekkers".
In fact.. Jesus has a much better record teaching humanity than the sky god managed,
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If all that literary fraud were set aside,
I'd rather quote myself " protect the children, stupid mothfekkers",( to the cult)
address it to the states of the south where the bible belt is allegedly tightest.
And the deep south Middle east where religion ,child abuse, teen rape is a traffic pattern
Its really bright out in the sun. Don't discount,
An overheated brain is a damaged brain.. leaving the more animalian more leash ..
to make a stupid man sound worse and then spermaspaz  a bundle of kids
with pregnancies he can't raise on the alotments of hours per day.
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Not even in the risen Jesus's own jewy backyard does he save the youth.
but its really bright outside and should a god hear all these people's worship
not doing a thing to protect his children.Often its in his name
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So if two or three people are gathered in his name
is he god taking part in the gang rape of the kids too?
Cop Group A , there's a racial thing going on about drugs,
If you check the records, these hurt and traumatized girls
white girls, get on the drugs and strip afterwards. If they escape
Traumatized and wanting freedom in their own terms
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Cop Group A , getting heavy on the politician's non relatives
Your supervisor is too much a bitch to have your back,
it’s a new job task environment
When the governors son gets caught banging a 16 year old
A Cop supervisor needs insulation
when musts of prosecution
prosecute ranks of the city council families.
Keep it in the paper, See who you are, whitey.
Its not tidy. among your own extremists,
in the south, in the bright bright sun
they do such tormenting deeds of power over their young girls
its like they think they were the god..
or what they'd do from the power of the throne either way.
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So how many wives does the god of jesus have?
Abraham, Adam .. At most two.
These antisocial desert creatures are holed up in their own lies
Nurturing the children is no verb of mormons; the hardliners are labeled.
made to fear the apocalyptic outside world.
It’s a blaspheme to expect the apocalypse, did you know this?
Doubting Thomas is a taken gig. Observe the creation and be thankful. Nothing else.
When the end is called for , the doubted faith is admitted, when worshippers want more.
Even the type of more that calls to protect the children from mormon cult rapists.
 The book of Jesus; new testament doesn't cover the polygamists.
Unlimited wives is not the spectre of  rightful unlimited hardship
Protecting and being friendly to the little children isn't going on.
Members trying to escape a faith, a marketing failure
The likes of Warren Jeffs due a lesson he won't forget.
Since they don't follow Jesus's word before..
they must follow him in no uncertain terms later
Up the cross three days , Crucifixion can skate the 8th amendment
for this one certain cause.
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Quasi mormons and the remainder of the child rape cults
by Jesus's name must learn to follow.
Normally the Romans just leave the body up on the post.
Traditional values also must win out for displaying faith.
The gluttony for sex by herding , not pickup lines or practiced suave
a lazy old man not earning his dick parking.
Lower than the van drivers Putting effort into a convincing abduction lure.
The quasimormon reads his reasoning from a book. 
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The religious heatstroke garble is too popular.
A heatstroke a lonely man shares to his friends, to a crowd
For an excuse to feel important again.
He wandered town to town
Named himself a prophet when the last place booted his ass.
From the desert , needing water , he says he had a vision
So his last occupation of ____crime whatever___
doesn't have to get much inquiry.
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Everybody loves a hermit.. even the liars that are robbers.
Until the shroud comes off, Touring the neighborhoods
giving the leaders and townsfolk unease
Too tired to rebel and too annoyed to be a cog.
Too fearful to be a disobediant child of men
His god wouldn't protect from the
ill leadership of other men
hoarding a good life for themselves
Without faith at all.
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Without faith , Only social morality One group of cops
will take down the allies of child trafficking cults
Theres only two groups.
The majority and the minority.
If the minority is the responsible party to
bust the quasimormon compounds;
I hope its not because the majority are too dick humbled by
their own parking in the prostitutes of the process less visible.
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The children can't be blamed when staking them into the ground like outdoor dogs
Expect "god made the grass green and the ground brown" will last 18 years for appeal?,
It Will not last; So not to expect grounds for beating.
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Beatings, rapes, throat slashing, molesting and armed guards
Cemeteries have better public relations.
But the living dead walk anyway, birthed into fear for living away from the cult
Translated: parents who train their children to live in their basement.
The secular world doesn't see how obvious a zombie
conversion from human quasimormon polygamy has attempted.
 Mind that Weed produced a better man than mormons did
Mind that Cannabis users are calling on cops right now ,
to pick up the attention toward family values.
A better society than jesus would herd.
A better tangible benefit than praying.
And a more successful relationship with truth than the American Government relating to the risks of tobacco, grounds of foreign war, and monogamy modeled by exemptions with power. There are no forecasts remaining for the will of the individual is the specific determination if human kind puts the next generation before its own libido.
Its about what the book says a religion is, not a man's translation
there's a lot more translation than praying going on
As if anyone worthy to hear a plea of their parish exists
or  responsible enough to prevent its own worshippers from hurting each other.
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A god so lazy he won't even say
" listen shit for brains, if you allow the elders to impregnate-rape your 10yr  daughter in the name of jesus, she's not going to be a willing christian. Her body and mind is not ready for a nurturing task"
I says”
Where's the work schedule, god? 
You've been absent and fired a long time ago.
Now it’s a deed of enslavement to the White Race officially.”
I didn't make it up. Its been going on.. now admit
Freedom of religion is not freedom to rewrite a religion..
Lets get that solid.
 #It_Takes_An_AmericanStoner_To_Set_A_Nation_Aright
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