#season 1 episode 'simon says' had a notable domestic abuse red flag moment
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fernsnouveau · 1 year ago
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I'm increasingly convinced that the implication is that since emoverse!Gabriel is not a supervillain and a horrible parent, he didn't keep Adrien's bad emotions under control the way canon Gabriel did by abusing Adrien into becoming compulsively convenient and passive.
So, the lack of excessive abusive control allowed Badrien's volatile emotions to get the better of him, resulting in him becoming a dangerously violent supervillain.
These implications, while horrifying, align pretty well with the unfortunate s5 message that Adrien is just too emotionally volatile and immature to deserve things like autonomy or full human rights or informed choices or an active role in his own life-narrative. He can only be Good Enough by giving away his capacity for agency and succumbing to the completely passive Perfect Victimhood; an object, not a subject in the story. S5 presents us with a scenario where Adrien needs to have a more rational abuser/owner/controller keeping him swaddled in psychological bubble wrap and out of the loop and ensuring that he remains compulsively convenient and doesn't start getting uppity, like standing up for himself or thinking he deserves to be treated as an equal, or thinking that his feelings matter (his feelings are bad and inconvenient and dangerous, remember?)
This way, Gabriel's and Nathalie's treatment of Adrien was supposedly """justified""" all along and Not Real Abuse, and also, it's okay for Marinette and the others in-the-know to keep treating Adrien in a very Gabrielcore way after Gabriel died and passed the mantle of Adrien's owner-controller-gaslighter to them (Marinette in particular).
...yeah, the showrunners really ran with the implications that some kids just need to be abused in order for them to stay Good and Virtuous.
Is that Ml Paris special thing is legit a leak or just someone fanfiction being branded as a leak? Because Adrien can't move on from his mother death sounds like BS. Canon Adrien can do that, movie!Adrien, who's lost his mother from even younger age, can do that so why this one, with good father can't? Seriously though, if it's movie!Adrien who take this route I can perfectly see it because Gabriel is neglecting him and he's already pretty jaded there. But an Adrien who supposedly have good father, can't move on? It feels like the math isn't mathing. Although it would be different matter if this Adrien think his father is the reason why his mother dead, then yeah, maybe it's a little bit more make senses.
It's 100% legit. It's not even a leak, it's just a bunch of spoilers from the novelization of the special that released on October 4th.
And I agree about Adrien being unable to move on from his mother's death being BS. Like, I understand that people process grief differently and not everyone can move on so quickly, but like, this is Adrien. Our Adrien moved on while being stuck with an abusive parent, why didn't the same Adrien move on when Gabe is like, supposedly a good parent? Movie Adrien was a good exploration of this, but he was a different version of Adrien entirely with a different characterization. Shadrien is supposed to be the same guy but in a different world with different circumstances but the same character. And I know that circumstances can shape your personality, but that's all the more reason for why this makes no sense lol. By all logic, Shadrien should be faring better than our Adrien considering that he had a stable upbringing and a father who would help him through his grief. It doesn't add up.
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#season 1 episode 'simon says' had a notable domestic abuse red flag moment#where Gabriel was like 'go to your room Adrien you've had enough emotions for today'#and then talked to LB about Adrien and Emilie in a demeaning and dismissive way like#'ugh Adrien is overly dramatic and emotional just like his mother was'#and ag the time it kind of implied that Emilie might have been Gabriel's abuse victim similarly to Adrien.#season 5 however has tried to reframe it so that it's not an abuse red flag at all#and when abusers demean their victims like this. the abuser is actually completely correct and rational and it's not abuse.#and yeah this is such a shitty thing for a kids show to do after YEARS of developing a story that presented itself like#like it was going to actually side with the victims of domestic abuse and be relatable and uplifting to them.#spending years gaining the trust of child abuse victims in the audience only to conclude the story with the 'shocking reveal'#of telling them that their abusers were right and they deserved to be treated badly and it wasn't even bad enough to be real abuse.#it's such a dirty and cruel thing to do. uplift your viewers only so you can make them fall from high enough to get hurt.#abuse#abuse apologism#ml s5 criticism#ml writing criticism#ml paris criticism#ml spoilers#ml paris spoilers#ml paris special#adrien#griffe noire#gabriel agreste's a+ parenting#garbage moth#ml writing salt#ml leaks#murdernoir#I'm wondering if they consulted a hardcore ABA supporter for the s5 child psychology. or just a hardcore conservative Christian.
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