#say thank you to nelyo outofangband i would have never thought to write maedhros and rog if it wasn't for them

[that-angry-noldo]

"Halt!"

Rog bared his teeth, his hand instinctively reaching to his sword. He felt his companions shifting behind him, their eyes piercing through the opposing elves.

Their opponents were better armed and in... healthier condition. Rog noticed few archers in the trees, and pursed his lips.

"Who are you, where are you going from, and what are your intentions on these lands?" the other leader called out. "Answer now!"

Rog couldn't make out his opponent's face in the dark of the night. He cursed his luck and squeezed the sword's handle.

"My name is Rog the Black," he growled. "Where I'm from is not your business, but I assure you, we want nothing with this land aside from quick passage. Now, if you may, get out of our way, for our temper is quick and our patience is pretty f-cking thin."

"You are coming from a direction we would expect from orcs, not from the Quendi," the voice said. "You are lucky we didn't shoot you and your people down when you were far enough, Rog the Black. Nothing stops us from slaying you now."

"Oh, I dare you to try," Rog grinned harshly. "You insulted us enough by comparing us to orcs, unnamed leader. We will go forth, even if it means staining this snow with blood - and I assure you, none of it will be of my people."

"You are outmatched," the voice grew colder. "And you're not gaining yourself points by threatening my people. You will be down in a matter of minutes."

"Good luck," Rog spit, "killing those who already died. I repeat for the last time. We only want to come through. We have no intention to make harm to this land."

"You are coming from Angband," the voice said harshly. "Rare escaped the Iron Hell, and none escaped it in such great numbers. Why should I trust you?"

"I say you watch your tongue, for you have insulted me twice already," Rog hissed. "Each of these people behind my back saw horrors you won't ever comprehend, suffered the pain you couldn't ever endure, and looked Moringotto Himself in the eyes - you think any of their wills could've been tampered with? Indeed you are as foolish as you sound, if you deem yourself able to stand between us and our home! Now, get out of our way - or bare your swords and fight like men you think yourselves to be!"

"Put your sword away," the voice ordered. "And consider us even, for as I insulted you twice, you insulted me two times in response. Your goal is reasonable, but same was my concern - though I see, now, that you burn too bright to be under Enemy's will. Still tell me, Rog the Black - are you sure you'll make your way home?"

"The Iron Hell itself couldn't hold us," Rog answered. "Whatever lies between us and our destination should rather get out from our way."

"Maybe, but do you have provision, medicine, weapons aside your rusty swords?" his opponent demanded, and didn't wait for an answer. "Exactly. There is a fortress not far from here. Come with me, and I will make sure you have all the necessities."

"Your change of temper is surprising, and, frankly, disturbing," Rog said, and fel at least forty pairs of eyes pierce through him with an extreme level of dissapointment. "How should I know you're not walking us into a trap? Just give us the passage, and we'll be out of your hair by the morning."

"I will tell you my name," the voice answered simply. "I believe you won't need any further explanation."

Rog was silent, waiting for the person to finish their sentence. Somebody lit a torch.

"Maedhros Feanorion," said Rog's opponent in a steady voice, looking at him with steady green gaze, torch flickering in his hand. "I'm glad to welcome you in my realm."

... well, Rog thought. Life sure loved surprising him.

[fuckingfinwions]

Extra CW: ableism, mention of restriction of stimming

This could apply to a number of your AUs or it could be its own thing.I actually headcanon both Maedhros and Fingon as autistic. Maedhros’s autism though is quiet and constrained. His ability to physically stim is heavily restricted by Naro. Unsurprisingly, as tends to happen when autistic kids are abused like this, Nelyo is a nervous wreck. Nolofinwë puts none of these constraints on Finno. He’s allowed to flap, rock and vocalize to his heart’s content and Fëanor HATES this

Anyways that’s the relatively boring just mean ableism stuff

There are a million different ways or scenarios that the incest part of this could happen. Again it would depend on the verse/AU but I’ll just throw out a few thoughts:

1. Naro wanting Nolofinwë to know. For this to be a punishment for him for everything. Fëanor gets Fingon drunk. Finno is confused but so relieved that his uncle isn’t being cruel to him like he usually does. By the time he’s worried and wants to leave it’s far too late and he can barely move.

2. If he’s trying to get away with it it’s more difficult. He doesn’t trust Fingon to keep quiet, he’d probably have to resort to threatening someone and even this isn’t fool proof. But he could more easily put himself in a good position to say that any accusation is fabricated.

(Thanks for letting me share my thoughts! I’m having a weird night so this isn’t very well organized but I’ll try to bring something more coherent later)

-@outofangband

Oh, I love those ideas! They feel like they work best in a basically-canon-Tirion to me, where Feanor and Nolofinwe are rival princes but neither of them officially is allowed to harm the other. And one of the ways Feanor tries to prove that he is the best is by having the best family, who always perfectly follow all rules of proper behavior (except for the rules Feanor personally dislikes).

(Writing the next bits from Feanor's point of view, which is very ableist. Also involves societal ableism of the "this neurodivergent individual obviously needs a minder, but if they have one we can ignore the whole situation" variety.)

Feanor would hate Fingon being allowed to express himself like that. Both because it disrupt Feanor's big fiery speeches if someone is neither being politely silent or cheering at the applause lines, and because he thinks Nolofinwe is insulting him. Feanor put a lot of effort into teaching Maedhros "good behavior" and correcting Maedhros every time he failed. Feanor doesn't like making his eldest son miserable, but it's obviously necessary. And then Nolofinwe just allows Fingon to do whatever he wants? As if the rules for society are unimportant? It's not that being the "better" royal family isn't important to Nolofinwe, he and Feanor are always competitive. So it must be a deliberate insult, Nolofinwe claiming to be so much better than Feanor that he can win even with an "obviously defective" heir.

I don't have great ideas for how Feanor could convince Fingon to hide it, but scenario 1 is intriguing. Feanor can punish Fingon for being disruptive and Nolofinwe for letting him at the same time. Also it reminds Maedhros that everything Feanor did to him was "for his own good" so that he didn't "end up like one of those people."

Feanor uses the fact that no one expects Fingon to act normally so that no one stops him form getting Fingon incredibly drunk. If a non-autsitc person was slurring their words and making incredibly expansive gestures but the person with them was giving them more drinks, people would be concerned. But Feanor says "Oh, you know my nephew's always a little odd, he's fine," and people leave them alone. Then he takes Fingon to his bedroom, saying it's too loud and bright here, he'll bring Fingon somewhere quiet because "you know crowds are too much for his delicate mind."

(This is the part that Feanor believes Maedhros would be safe from. Maedhros has never revealed his "weaknesses," so people would be concerned and step in if Maedhros was in Fingon's place and a stranger in Feanor's.)

Fingon is aware that he's drunk more than normal, but Feanor is being nice for once, and actually referring to him as a family member. And there's too much noise and too many strange people all around, drinking is at east something to do with his hands. Even Feanor's "nice" remarks are sharp and on the edge of insults, to the point where it's hard to respond without insulting Feanor or admitting fault, so Fingon drinks to avoid having to say anything.

When Feanor suggests they leave, Fingon is grateful, though he hadn't been sure how to suggest it earlier without Feanor thinking Fingon disliked his company. A quiet place sounds nice. Fingon is surprised to end up at Feanor's room rather than his own, but when he thinks about it Feanor probably doesn't actually know where Fingon lives. Fingon focuses on being grateful that Feanor is willing to invite him into such a private place, even though he feels antsy in the strange place. He tries to relax, knowing that Feanor might have been polite tonight but he doesn't like Fingon stimming, but that just makes Fingon anxious and need to stim more.

While Fingon is focused on his thoughts, Feanor locks the door. Fingon has started rocking in place. Feanor guides him to the bed, and between the alcohol and the sensory overload Fingon goes along with it.

Feanor finds it very convenient that Fingon freezes up when overwhelmed.

Feanor doesn't worry about any consequences of raping Fingon. Sure, Nolofinwe will notice something's wrong, and Fingon will tell him what happened. But who else will believe it? Even if Fingon is traumatized afterwards, and starts shivering and whimpering around Feanor, "everyone knows Fingon moves for odd reasons and makes odd sounds." The only thing witnesses saw was Feanor and his Fingon enjoying an evening together and then leaving out of consideration for Fingon's needs. If it does go to a trial, it will be Fingon's word against Feanor's and Feanor is confident of his ability to sound more convincing than Fingon, especially in a high stress public setting.