#really? two of the biggest pop stars of the year are indie?? o k

[sillimancer]

okay yeah actually this tracks

you HAVE to do spotify wrapped in the app now? man go fuck yourself

[winebleeds]

by popular request here’s a look at the spencers’ celebrity verses.

FIRST OFF. certain plots may change the dynamic of the spencers or if the spencers knew your muse(s) as children. aka, if robert ... yeah robert, threw all four kids into stardom without them ever really having a say in it, where maybe he became semi popular at some point before ellesmere gobbled him back up. in this case, the spencers would be use to the spotlight since children & could even be kid stars (like being on d*sney) before molding into the celebrity selves mentioned below. otherwise, everything follows the main timeline, except one (or two, with liz & maddie) of the spencers decide to incorporate themselves in hollywood. here, only the one spencer is well known as the other live normal lives. if we do go with the ‘all spencers were celebs’ verse, then the way that happens can be privately discussed. otherwise, the following are based on the other siblings having normal lives. heck, maddie’s main verse is her trying to go into the music industry, so she main can easily meet other celebs. NOW, onto the individual verses.

ELIZABETH AND MADDIE

but pineapple didn’t you say indi- yes, but these two are integral for their verses. even if the focus for this verse is liz being more popular than maddie, they both influence each other AND are involved in their separate careers, that you cannot separate them in terms of explaining this verse, aka if liz decide to sing songs for a living.

here, instead of asking about how things are fixed, a young liz finds herself interested about how people make music. it’s still building upon broken or new parts, creating songs out of them or learning instruments instead of wrenches. robert, always wanting a high status, sees his young daughter’s interest & upcoming talent as a potential way to climb that social ladder; he may not get her into politics, but she was going to be a star. 

so her free time surrounded in the studios and music lessons instead of horses & books. some of her mix tapes went to producers, robert bought an apartment in nashville for longer stays. around this time, maddie is born, but liz is too busy caught in the whirlwind of the life robert is now forcing onto her, & the pending divorce between her parents. this confusion brought years of writing material down the road. the heartbreak & separation in her personal songs isn’t about lovers people love to interpret. no, it was a broken family that led to the broken persona.

by the time maddie can truly remember, elizabeth had begun a true music career. her first album came out with somewhat success; better than mediocre but nothing too mainstream yet. but the country scene is talking about the teenager becoming a future staple with more practice. so a major producer took liz in as a protégé. her first tour was her being an opening for the z*c br*wn band alongside her first album. (later down the road, a popular video of hers on youtube is a live footage of her covering ‘highway 20 ride’ with them)

& all a young maddie can do is look at awe. she doesn’t really see too much of her older sister, but that older sister showed maddie how to play guitar, how words connect into musical poetry, telling her who was who. even as maddie grew to not like the country genre that elizabeth is heading towards, maddie’s love for music only enhance, deciding to live with robert & elizabeth in when the courts ask maddie where she wants to go. 

but when maddie is of age to tell the courts she wants to live with robert, nowin la, elizabeth had three albums, the second a surprising platinum & on country charts. the closest of high school for her was music videos with the school setting. she captures the teenage spirit while holding herself with a posture of maturity. and that maturity grows with her college third album, departing from country into the top 40 pop. the start of her 20s brought her to la & stardom... but, oh, does she hate it. even more as her father savors in it.

one of her biggest scandals (besides being known as a heartbreaker) comes from a panic attack in front of the paparazzi's around the time of her third album, when her claustrophobia took over. and her claustrophobia still hasn’t gone away; people that used to work for elizabeth know of her tears in bathroom until she was able to recoup. she’s able to hide this better now that she’s six albums & 5 tours in as of 2021. these later album mix her pop & country genres, integrating into folk & the alternative of her actual preference. some of her signatures have been not changing pronouns of covers or singing songs with she/her, alluding to her bisexuality. but people go in depth in interpreting songs they know of her own, with her and another spencer on credit...

because many songs under elizabeth are a joint effort with her sister, the better songwriter but less famous. it has brought jealousy with maddie, knowing the pop status made elizabeth a household name. but maddie is a bassist/songwriter in a band in a niche alternative rock group, & she adores those fans... and maddie sometimes feel lucky, sometimes, knowing the paparazzi are less involved than the panic they bring to elizabeth. and, even though they have enough money to live on their own in the hollywood hills, they live in the same mansion together. even at the surface shows separate lives, they both need each other, wanting to make up lost time of lost childhoods through this common interest of songs. and, seeing how music makes maddie smile, elizabeth may consider her current life is worth it... for her sunshine...

JAMIE 

sadly, i won’t go into the details i did for maddie & liz. but, jamie as four scenarios. first, is the generic actor au where he often plays jocks in earlier shows & more comedic roles (like being frequent on snl) though he wants to break from that pretty boy status with his newfound sobriety. this may play more into the all spencers found stardom.

the next two can fit into the main timeline. instead of getting too injured to play football, jamie does end up in the nfl, where he can mingle with the popular crowds. then, there’s the sports announcer au. instead of fitness training after his downfall, he decides to go into a possible career of announcing the sport he once played or other sports. while not entirely popular here and just gaining a face, he’s a pretty face. might even take a small tv role.

finally, and perhaps the most sought after, is his dancer au. here, dancing replaces football (perhaps br*tney sp*ars had a bigger influence on him), especially if he meets irene earlier and follows her around. this could be him becoming a dancer in a company (aka ballet) or he’s a known background dancer for music videos. so he doesn’t have mainstream status, but known in the industry. most likely to be set up to date someone either in popularity or look slightly more relatable. 

RALEIGH

he’s a director / producer / writer, so he stays behind the scenes. but he does have a grammy under his belt. and while he’s been told he has movie star looks, he doesn’t like being on the camera, just behind it. even for the verses where he was once a child actor. maybe he even started writing / working with medical shows before dramatic movies & even a documentary.